The Case For Reparations Talk

Guest Post by The Zman

Presidential hopeful Kamala Harris has tried to stir things up by coming out with a plan for reparations. Her scheme is short on details, but it is basically an as yet undefined special tax break for qualified people. She’s not the only left-wing candidate supporting the idea, but she is the first to talk about it in any specifics. It is an idea the radicals all think is a winning idea. For now, most are content to offer lip service, while making references to Ta-Nahisi Coates and his 2014 essay The Case For Reparations.

There’s an assumption among white radicals that all blacks have committed that essay to memory. In reality, 90% of blacks have never heard of Coates or his essay. That’s because Coates is the sort of boutique black that is only popular with the sorts of bourgeois radicals you see on the college campus or the Acela. He is the sort of black that only Progressives can love, in that he confirms all of their deepest held beliefs about their righteousness and never dares ask the wrong questions.

The amusing thing about their love for Coates is that he tends to make the case you often hear on this side of the great divide. His essay is so poorly written and constructed, it’s nearly impossible to critique, as that would require taking it seriously. It veers between conspiracy theory and emotive gibberish. There’s a paranormal quality to much of it, as he works from the assumption that racism is this spirit force that manipulates whites into doing bad things to blacks, without them ever noticing it.

Of course, the usual suspects are in a panic over this sudden burst of honesty from the radicals leading the anti-white coalition. They will never say it, but they know Hillary lost because she was unable to fool enough white voters. If whites wake up from their hallucinations and suddenly see things as they are, the coalition of the ascendant is in a lot of trouble. Telling Baby Boomers that they plan to take their loot and give it to blacks is the fastest way to get them off the golf course and into activism.

That is, of course, part of the plan. The Democrats always run far Left in their primary and then come back to less insane positions in the general. They can rely on the media to memory hole their nuttier comments and positions. They can also count on Republicans to never bring this stuff up. More important, they will never have to explain their plan or defend it against a thoughtful response. Instead, they will rely on the usual suspects in Conservative Inc. to play their role as the racist bigot opposed to reparations.

That’s an important thing to get here. The Left is all about morality. Whatever details they offer are just the minimum to complete the stage set. What they are doing here is carving out two roles, one for themselves and one for the Boomer right-winger, who seems to only care about his money, rather than justice. The role for Lefty in this play is to be seen as heroically defending the helpless non-whites, who are endlessly under assault from the institutional white privilege. The right-wing Boomer always falls for this gag.

There is a better response, one that the media and palace guards from Conservative Inc. will fight to make sure never happens. That answer is to agree, in principle, with the concept of reparations for the descendants of slaves. The one condition is that it has to be a good faith effort to arrive at a number that pays the debt in full. Since we’re mostly talking about cash payments, whatever that number is and whatever the degree of vengeance required, the final number has to stamp the debt “paid in full.”

That is, after all, the point of reparations. The person claiming to have been harmed, seeks to be made whole, by the person causing the harm. After a war, the winner will impose reparations on the loser, in order to facilitate peace. The cost of winning and imposing peace is imposed on the loser as both punishment and restitution. Once the debt is paid, that’s the end of it. If payments are supposed to continue into forever, without end, then that’s not reparations. That’s tribute and that’s what needs to be established.

That’s why a thoughtful person should always respond to this issue with a willingness to discuss the issue. The first question to Harris should be, “Is this a good faith effort to reach a final settlement, where the debt to blacks is fully paid?” Most likely, she would not know how to answer the question. The reason for that is she does not understand the definition of the word reparations. It just resonates with her target audience. What she and they, however, have in mind is tribute, a browngeld to be paid forever.

This is why responding to this stuff on-line with nutty demands like “Well, I’ll give them reparations once they return to Africa” is as dumb as blacks thinking they will be getting an extra check on top of what they get now. It just reinforces the moral argument made by the radicals, while blinding the intended victims to what’s happening. White people need to understand that they will pay. That’s written in stone. The question is, what do we get for those payments? When is this debt finally stamped “paid in full?”

Inevitably, the radicals representing the coalition of the ascendant cannot put a number on it and they cannot agree that there is a number. That’s because they are talking about tribute, rather than reparations. The question that must always follow a demand for tribute is, “If we refuse, then what?” Tribute must always include the threat of force and that’s what has been true about the Left for a long time. It’s why they avoid facts and logic. They make the demands with the assumption everyone knows what “or else” means.

Another angle to this approach is it would inevitably reveal another truth to what’s happening in this age. The radicals would not be able to limit the scope to the descendants of former slaves. Look at the language all of them are using. They never specifically say descendants of slaves. Harris simply says “qualified people of all races.” The reason for this is they are not championing the cause of American blacks, they are leading a coalition of non-whites, many of whom just got here, against white people.

For example, most whites are unaware that South Asians are in on this. Spend time in the Imperial Capital and you’ll notice most of the IT work is done by Indians. Africans, as in people from Africa, can go through special doors to get into colleges and graduate schools, simply because they are black. Latinos have their free pass too. None of these people have plausible grievance against American whites, but they get the handout because they are not white. That’s a reality white people need to face.

Seriously discussing this helps break the conditioning that seems to keep the older generations in a daze, as if they are drugged. The ascendant will never embrace the culture of American whites. They seek to drain the resources and power from whites, so they can dictate terms. This is not a competition they seek to win and then be generous to the vanquished. There is no generosity in their heart. We know this because there is no gratitude there ether. For them, reparations are vengeance with a dollar sign.

The point of our project is to raise awareness and wake up as many whites as possible to the new reality of this age. This is an opportunity to do just that. To allow mindless civic nationalists to lapse into their programmed responses is a mistake. These normie whites need to be slapped across the face and one way to do that is to embrace the issue of reparations seriously and dispassionately. Ask the question, “What is the number that pays the debt in full?” The answer is another red pill.

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38 Comments
Aodh Macraynall
Aodh Macraynall
March 1, 2019 7:10 am

“Telling Baby Boomers that they plan to take their loot and give it to blacks is the fastest way to get them off the golf course and into activism”…”This is why responding to this stuff on-line with nutty demands like “Well, I’ll give them reparations once they return to Africa” is as dumb as blacks thinking they will be getting an extra check on top of what they get now. ” This is why Zman is always funnier, more cogent and, in general, more instructive to read than that fookin drunk Fred Reed.

Zappatista
Zappatista
  Aodh Macraynall
March 1, 2019 9:58 am

McCranial, There is no need for baby-talk, this is a grown up site; it’s “fucking” or “fucken”. Maybe Fred’s writing is over your head.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Zappatista
March 1, 2019 11:23 am

Thanks for reminding us that this is a grown up site. Sometimes it slips my mind.

credit
credit
March 1, 2019 7:27 am

This is the ignition for civil war and dead men can’t cash checks.

e.d ott
e.d ott
March 1, 2019 7:50 am

Reparations my ass. Call it what it really is – leveraged redistribution of income for parasites.
In many cases minorities cannot compete on an equal basis so this is where “equal opportunity” laws and lowered standards become enforced. It used to piss me off in the Army and still does because it leveraged race and sexual identity for promotion as being equal to good performance.
If you want something, get off your ass and work for it.

Dutchman
Dutchman
March 1, 2019 8:11 am

This is never going to happen. It’s just bullshit talk. Get a fucking J-O-B.

anarchyst
anarchyst
March 1, 2019 8:27 am

“Repatriation, not reparations” should be the mantra of all clear-thinking whites…
Repatriation should have been the goal 154 years ago. It is probably too late, but when the USA breaks up (as it will), they could be repatriated to states outside the white-run areas. Let the east and west coast gave them…

musket
musket
March 1, 2019 8:32 am

Since Johnson’s Great Society programs in the 60’s this nation has pissed away over 25 trillion dollars from all levels of government in an effort to bring this element of society up to the rest of the nation with zero luck. Even Washington DC is worse off now than it was in 1965. These programs are nothing more than heroin and the poor folks are exactly where the liberals want them….as voters. The longer this keeps up the worse it will get and you can blame the democrat party for this crime.

There isn’t a slave or a slave owner still alive to either pay a true reparation or to be qualified to receive it so take your reparations and shove them up your “6” position…..Got it?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  musket
March 1, 2019 7:24 pm

“up to the rest of the nation with zero luck” – That’s a awfully big assumption to make as to the purpose of the Great Society. That is how it was SOLD, but permanent enslavement, a permanently dependent class of voters (much like Social Security assured), and a highly visible “whipping boy” for the Democrats to drag out as needed, were the real purposes.

javelin
javelin
March 1, 2019 8:55 am

Isn’t this what we already do but nobody will honestly recognize it?….original compiler of these stats unknown but are easily verified at govt websites………..

The cost of Black America

If you are a white American, over the course of your lifetime the federal government will, on average and on your behalf, transfer $384,109 of your wealth and income to a single black individual.

According to the data derived from the 2014 federal budget, the average annual net tax/benefit broke down as follows:
•White: -$2,795
•Black: +$10,016
Over the course of an average 79-year lifespan, a white individual contributes a net $220,805 to the system, whereas over the course of an average 75-year lifespan, a black individual receives a net $751,200. However, since there are 4.6 times more whites than blacks in the USA, the black share has to be divided among the various contributors to sort out a one-to-one comparison.

So, the net cost to the average White American of the average Black American is $384,109. Married? That’s $768,218. Got 2 kids? That’s $1,536,436. 4 kids? Now we’re talking $2,304,654 lifetime.

Diversity is expensive. Now you understand why you won’t have much of an inheritance to leave to your children. Do you really think it’s worth it? And then, those natural conservatives to the south, the Hispanics, will surely improve the situation, right? After all, immigration helps the economy! Well, not so much.
•Hispanic: +7,298
In fact, because there are more Hispanics in the USA than Blacks, Hispanics are already a bigger cumulative net drain on the economy, $411,950,000,000 to $389,710,000,000. Needless to say, the ongoing demographic change from a predominantly white society to a less productive, less white one can be expected to have even more serious negative effects on the long-term economic prospects of the United States that it already has.

To quote the original author: “The negative fiscal impact of blacks and hispanics is significant. All of this discussion of a “national debt” and “deficit” is primarily of function of blacks and hispanics. Without them, we would be running budget surpluses today, even when keeping the military the same size.

DD
DD
  javelin
March 1, 2019 9:45 am

Interesting string of facts. Horrifying, but like on Elm Street, I couldn’t look away.

Zappatista
Zappatista
  javelin
March 1, 2019 9:51 am

Awesome, jivelyn. You have put your finger in the hole of the dyke. I always heard about deficit spending and unfunded liabilities and foreign wars and black ops and dark budgets and so on but I never realized it was simply code for welfare. Where did you get this valuable info, Daily Stormer?

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
March 1, 2019 9:02 am

Bought 14 healthy baby chicks a couple weeks ago and in a couple days had to treat one individual after another for an open bleeding wound. I sprayed each with a purple medicine and placed them in a separate “hospital” box. When I was down to 5 in the original box, I caught a chick pecking another one hard and put her in a third box. No new wounds appeared on the 4 chicks left in the original box. . I have experienced problem animals before: Rams that butt others to death, rabbits that bite me or eat their babies legs off, Ewes that won’t nurse their lambs, etc. Those animals I butchered to terminate the bad genes. By getting rid of the bad chick, I saved 13 others. Some humans have bad genes that can’t be fixed by Welfare, counseling or prison time and they should be sterilized; some humans are to stupid and liberal to understand that simple fact of life.

credit
credit
  robert h siddell jr
March 1, 2019 9:28 am

While I’m repulsed by your implications, I realize that when humans are backed into a corner, they must become as vicious as their adversary.

Zappatista
Zappatista
  robert h siddell jr
March 1, 2019 9:46 am

I find your observation to be fair. A long time ago, I read that there is a lot of untreated mental illness in the Hispanic community. There must be a similar situation in the Black tribe. Except, those nutters go on to make bank as professional rappers.

DD
DD
  robert h siddell jr
March 1, 2019 9:49 am

Some people believe survival of the fittest is natural selection, but sometimes the strongest is not the most desirable sire for the herd. It depends upon the goals of the breeder.

Since you are discussing humans with bad genes requiring termination, how do you suggest we round up the flawed and get rid of them?

splurge
splurge
  DD
March 1, 2019 12:28 pm

Don’t round them up, kill them where you find them. Rounding them up is the mistake Hitler made. Don’t herd vermin.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
  DD
March 1, 2019 3:36 pm

Duh, they are doing that themselves by violent crimes and multiple welfare children.

gilberts
gilberts
  robert h siddell jr
March 1, 2019 10:51 pm

You fascist hate-monger. Obviously that chick deserved special education, therapist support, a health and welfare inspection of the owner and the chick’s original parents, and any other wellness support we can provide. Only a monster would harm or kill an animal merely for expressing itself in its own unique way. How were you improving the flock by culling the one chick who exhibited leadership traits? I bet you would pump your children full of Ritalin, too. For shame.

DD
DD
March 1, 2019 9:42 am

Haven’t read all of yours Zman, but I jumped to read the link to get some background. It is not normally the sort of thing I would read, but because you are discussing the issue, I figured it was time to get better informed from another point of view. Coates seems to give a decent account, although there are some real stretches.

“The high point of the lynching era has passed. But the memories of those robbed of their lives still live on in the lingering effects. Indeed, in America there is a strange and powerful belief that if you stab a black person 10 times, the bleeding stops and the healing begins the moment the assailant drops the knife. ”

My initial reaction to that was “bullshit!” Then, I thought about it and realized Coates had forgotten to mention spinning around three times under the full moon with a dead cat.

Then “Bullshit!” Because there’s some of that in there too.

But, he does present a pretty good chronological narrative that explains the logic and rationale about reparations.

subwo
subwo
  DD
March 1, 2019 5:47 pm

After he started appearing I dropped my subscription. Their slogan “Of no party or clique”, my ass.

DavidC
DavidC
March 1, 2019 9:48 am

If these idiots actually get so-called reparations paid out to the blacks and others with their hands out, then I never want to hear anybody whining about slavery or white privilege again. The debt will be paid, and we have to be on a merit system, not on a cry-baby, poor-me system. After the checks clear and are foolishly pissed away on cars and bling, that’s the end of the gravy train. No more set-asides. No more “Affirmative Action”. No more hand-outs. You stand on your own two feet, and if you cannot make it, tough. Get to the back of the line.

BB
BB
  DavidC
March 1, 2019 11:12 am

If there is ever a case for secession then more reparations for Blacks is it. Since the War on Poverty somewhere in the neighborhood of 24 to 25 trillion dollars has been spent on various welfare programs and where has it gotten white people. Blacks are parsites . When the powers that be take down the world economy it will be slap up side the head of white America cause they will take those retirement accounts and the remaining pension funds. Many whites will find themselves in poverty or close to it. Maybe that’s what it will take to get white people off their comfortable asses.
I keep saying this but here goes again. There is a plan by the Elites for a One world government . They know they have got to reduce the power of white people in this country. Behind all the bullshit this has been the primary reason for all this Third world immigration . They have flooded our nation with people who will ” vote ” for this type of government. This has been the plan all along. The Elites are Luciferian types who have sold us out. They are traitors .

Dutchman
Dutchman
  BB
March 1, 2019 1:57 pm

Reparations? Give them Chicago.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Dutchman
March 2, 2019 12:01 am

Promise them anything but give them Detroit

DD
DD
  EL Coyote
March 3, 2019 11:48 am

Toss in Pasadena (both California AND Texas) for a good Tex-Mex blend.

Someone along the way on this thread of comments had a wonderful one liner buried in their comment. I’d go find it but it is easier to dump the task upon you. I think they should get credit and be encouraged to opine aloud more, but if you are too lazy, it is not my problem.

So the very clever comeback buried in a decent but otherwise regular sort of TBP reply was that blacks owe taxpayers reparations for all the wasted time, wasted effort and wasted money spent by our country on the fraudulent “Equality Industry” which brings us to the liminality of our current catastrophic crisis.

In a world where all that is left is the roaches, will the roaches survive and thrive?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  DavidC
March 1, 2019 11:25 am

Ya OK….. up here in Canuckistan, I’ve been paying for reparations for my entire working life to go to the Injuns for prior atrocities for which I was never part of. I’m still paying for the never ending atrocities that keep on coming. Today it is this injustice…. tomorrow it will be another….it just keeps on going forever!! And we keep on paying.
DON’T DO IT!!! you’ll be sorry, and your children will suffer the consequences!

Ginger
Ginger
  Anonymous
March 1, 2019 12:44 pm

Suggest that you get behind a candidate for whatever you call the main political honcho up there whose promise is a new Dodge Charger and a case of bad whiskey for every Indian.

Daniel
Daniel
March 1, 2019 1:15 pm

the trillions of dollars squandered by the great society are somehow not enough? the yield has been decidedly negative. i propose a new number to right the accounts: 7.62×51.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
  Daniel
March 1, 2019 3:40 pm

Any old 7.62 will do…

Llpoh
Llpoh
March 1, 2019 2:24 pm

You mean any reparations I get will only be once? That does not seem fair. Youse palefaces owe me forever. Quit fighting it and just pay and pay and pay and pay.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
  Llpoh
March 1, 2019 3:42 pm

I’m sure you will want any agreement written in a Treaty and signed by the President.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Llpoh
March 1, 2019 9:55 pm

tonto,
the southern tribes had many runaway slaves who joined the tribes & intermarried–
don’t let us catch you trying to double dip just because yo great grandpa escaped the plantation–

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 1, 2019 7:08 pm

Just tell the motherfuckers that you would rather go to war than pay more than you already have.
Then reset all the bullshit handouts to fuckin zero. You want something go to fuckin work. Why does anyone pander to 12% of the population.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
March 1, 2019 7:28 pm

A clarification of qualifications (in detail), and a “paid in full” signature at the end, are two key requirements for sure. The implication that dirt poor whites from western or eastern europe who came over many decades after slavery was ended, somehow “benefited” from the “legacy of slavery” and should therefore also have to pay, also deserves a huge discussion and clarification. I guarantee that this is also a question without good answers.

TampaRed
TampaRed
March 1, 2019 9:59 pm

years ago,pat buchanan proposed reparations that would have been a substantial one time payment w/the stipulation that any person who accepted it would never again be eligible for any type of govt assistance–
we should have done it–

gilberts
gilberts
March 1, 2019 10:24 pm

This may surprise you, but I think it’s high time to talk reparations.
It’s only fair to talk about historic injustice and trying to right the wrongs of the past and the continuing racial injustices of the present. The outrages committed in this nation must be atoned for by those responsible:
The blacks.

The blacks owe us a whole lot for the treasure we’ve wasted attempting to civilize them, educate them, habituate them to sanitation and hygiene, and the incredible, disproportionately huge amount of crime they commit. We literally pay for them from cradle to grave, so I bet they owe us way more than they think we owe them.

If they ever do manage to convince the country to give them money, I hope we also ship them back to Africa, too. They deserve a chance at success in the Mother Country from which their forgotten ancestors were torn, where their ethics of hard work and industry will allow them to serve as living examples of the greatness inherent in African Americans and proof that we can achieve anything we want when we set our minds to it. We can also tell them Africa’s welfare system is even better than our own.

dead reckoning
dead reckoning
March 3, 2019 11:11 am

and only the southern states that permitted slave ownership will be the ones making the payments, right? And only if the petitioners can prove a direct line to an owned person, right? And only the direct descendants of slave owning families will have to pay, right? Works out to about a beer and a pizza per current count, right?