Who Won, and Who Lost, World War II?

Guest Post by Pat Buchanan

Who Won, and Who Lost, World War II?

Given the cause for which their country went to war, British actions during the war seem inexplicable.

Sunday, the 80th anniversary of the Nazi invasion of Poland, Vice President Mike Pence spoke in Warsaw’s Pilsudski Square of “five decades of untold suffering and death that followed” the invasion. Five decades!

What Pence was saying was that, for Poland, World War II did not end in victory but defeat and occupation by an evil empire ruled by one of the greatest mass murderers of the 20th century, Josef Stalin.

The “Liberation of Europe,” the 75th anniversary of which we celebrated at Omaha Beach on June 6, was a liberation that extended only to the Elbe River in the heart of Germany.

Beyond the Elbe, the Nazis were annihilated, but victory belonged to an equally evil ideology, for the “liberators” of Auschwitz had for decades run an archipelago of concentration camps as large as Himmler’s.

So, who really won, and who lost, the war?

Winston Churchill wanted to fight for Czechoslovakia at Munich in 1938, and Britain went to war for Poland in 1939. Yet if both nations ended up under Bolshevik rule for half a century, did Britain win their freedom? And if this was the predictable result of a war in a part of Europe where Nazis confronted Bolsheviks, why did Britain even go to war?

Why did Britain declare war for a cause and country it could not defend? Why did Britain turn a German-Polish war into a world war that would surely bankrupt her and bring down her empire, while she could not achieve her declared war goal — a liberated and independent Poland?

What vital British interest was imperiled by Hitler’s retrieval of a port city, Danzig, that had been severed from Germany against the will of its 300,000 people and handed to Poland at Versailles in 1919?

Danzigers never wanted to leave Germany, and 90% wanted to return. Even the British Cabinet thought Germany had a case and Danzig should be returned.

Why then did Britain declare war?

Because Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain had insanely given the Poles a blank check, a war guarantee on March 31, 1939: If Germany uses force to retrieve Danzig, and you resist, we will fight at your side.

Britain’s war guarantee guaranteed the war.

Given the cause for which their country went to war, British actions during the war seem inexplicable.

When Stalin’s army invaded Poland, Sept. 17, 1939, two weeks after Hitler, Britain did not declare war on the Soviet Union.

The Polish officer corps were executed on Moscow’s orders in 1940. When the bodies were unearthed in Katyn in 1943, Churchill, now an ally of Stalin, responded to the Free Poles’ request to investigate the atrocity: “There is no use prowling round the three year old graves of Smolensk.”

Rather than attack Hitler after he invaded Poland, Britain and France remained behind the Maginot Line and waited until Hitler’s armies stormed west on May 10, 1940, the day Churchill took power.

In three weeks, the British army had been defeated and thrown off the continent. In six weeks, France had surrendered.

After Dunkirk and the Battle of Britain in 1940, Britain refused all of Hitler’s offers to end the war, holding on till June 1941, when Hitler turned on his partner Stalin and invaded the Soviet Union.

Churchill is the “man of the century” for persuading Britain to stand alone against Nazi Germany in 1940, Britain’s “finest hour.”

But at war’s end, what was the balance sheet of Churchill?

The Poland for which Britain had gone to war was lost to Stalinism and would remain so for the entire Cold War. Churchill would be forced to accede to Stalin’s annexation of half of Poland and its incorporation into the Soviet Bloc. To appease Stalin, Churchill declared war on Finland.

Britain would end the war bombed, bled and bankrupt, with her empire in Asia, India, the Mideast and Africa disintegrating. In two decades it would all be gone.

France would end the war after living under Nazi occupation and Vichy rule for five years, lose her African and Asian empire and then sustain defeats and humiliation in Indochina in 1954 and Algeria in 1962.

Who really won the war?

Certainly, the Soviets who, after losses in the millions from the Nazi invasion, ended up occupying Berlin, having annexed the Baltic states and turned Eastern Europe into a Soviet base camp, though Stalin is said to have remarked of a 19th-century czar, “Yes, but Alexander I made it to Paris!”

The Americans, who stayed out longest, ended the war with the least losses of any great power. Yet, America is a part of the West, and the West was the loser of the world wars of the last century.

Indeed, the two wars between 1914 and 1945 may be seen as the Great Civil War of the West, the Thirty Years War of Western Civilization that culminated in the loss of all the Western empires and the ultimate conquest of the West by the liberated peoples of their former colonies.

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gatsby1219
gatsby1219
September 3, 2019 6:25 am

“Who really won the war?”

Israel

Allan
Allan
  gatsby1219
September 3, 2019 1:43 pm

For that reason we ought to suspect that “World War” II was, in fact, premeditated as a genocide of Europe’s peoples. It just so happens to be true also that we can show motive and opportunity of a nation known for genocidal malice since ancient times. Furthermore, reading Hitler’s War by David Irving adds a clue that the Hitler regime was significantly subsidized by foreign bankers resident in Berlin, and one of them was known to be a leader of Zionism in Germany.

CCRider
CCRider
September 3, 2019 8:03 am

Pat’s book “The Unnecessary War”(a Churchill quote) was a groundbreaking tome that blows away the bullshit war lust we boomers were force fed our entire lives;

Of course Pat, being a company man, couldn’t tell the whole story. Mike Rivero does:

https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/all-wars-are-bankers-wars/

flash
flash
  CCRider
September 3, 2019 8:12 am
flash
flash
  CCRider
September 3, 2019 8:14 am

Along those lines…

Great Wars and Great Leaders: A Libertarian Rebuttal

https://mises.org/library/great-wars-and-great-leaders-libertarian-rebuttal

flash
flash
September 3, 2019 8:10 am

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TC
TC
September 3, 2019 8:47 am

Pat loves to do these rhetorical essays that can fly under the radar and he’s right except for one detail – of all parties involved in WWII, the jews suffered the least of all nations. America, as well as all Western nations are still suffering our pyrrhic victory; that is the defeat of humanity.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  TC
September 3, 2019 9:21 am

Sorry, I can’t help myself. So who were the good guys that should have won?

Pat is an idiot in lots of these essays.

The UK has always played the European “spoiler” attempting to tip the balance in any conflict to their advantage. As an island nation, it is a good strategy and worked reasonably well for 1000 years.

Alas all expansionist mercantile empires (colonies and monopolies) eventually collapse…..and the UK was pushed over the edge in WWI…..the losses of men and material were staggering.

Churchill was doing the old strategy knowing Germany was a more dangerous power if they controlled Europe…so he and the rest of the UK leadership played their weak hand as best they could. No contradiction or confusion….They needed to get the war going to stop Germany and convinced America to join in.

America saw the opportunity for emergence as a hyper-power and took it….no surprises there either……we did just enough to get to the victory, letting the other combatants (especially the USSR) do the heavy lifting.

The banks actually won…..which Pat doesn’t go into enough detail on.

TC
TC
  Martel's Hammer
September 3, 2019 10:47 am

There shouldn’t have been a war in the first place.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  TC
September 3, 2019 12:00 pm

Do you want to shed some light on your thoughts? Are you saying you would have preferred a German military victory and implementation of Nazism across Europe and America? Germany obviously won the “peace” until Merkel squandered it all on Islamic/Sub-Saharan Africans. Don’t be shy, tell us what you think would have been a better outcome. I am sure the Germans “won” in quite a few alternative timelines in the “multi-verse”.

splurge
splurge
  Martel's Hammer
September 3, 2019 1:09 pm

I think the point is there were no good guys, and you are certainly correct about the bankers winning.

Allan
Allan
  splurge
September 3, 2019 3:51 pm

Perhaps there were no good guys, but we could have discerned the characteristics of the bad guys sufficient to know who was the worst of them. That we did not measure the bad guys correctly—or failed to act appropriately on the knowledge of who was worst—foreshadowed our contemporary political situation of rule by lies, idiocy, and cowardice.

TC
TC
  Martel's Hammer
September 3, 2019 1:23 pm

“implementation of Nazism across Europe and America?”

You don’t really believe that do you?

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  TC
September 3, 2019 1:46 pm

I am just asking for your thoughts….If Adolph was not stopped that is what would have happened…..Man in the High Castle. Same for Antifa or the Chi-coms….an authoritarian system in motion tends to remain in motion until acted upon by an opposing force….Not sure why you are playing coy…spit it out man.

Allan
Allan
  TC
September 3, 2019 4:01 pm

TC,

He does, and we’d all be speaking German now if the USA had not acted against “Adolph”. In fact, don’t you know that the scuttling of the Bismarck in May 1941 made it more likely that landlubber “Adolph” and his mediocre Kriegsmarine would be able to carry out the vastly complicated and resource intensive project of a transatlantic invasion and occupation of North America?

daddysteve
daddysteve
  Allan
September 4, 2019 12:10 pm

Germany was never going to take over the world with 80 million people. With or without our help. So what if the Europeans were fighting amongst themselves? They did that every decade somewhere in Europe for centuries. What you are peddling is progressivism(sic?) of the Red Team variety.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Martel's Hammer
September 3, 2019 1:36 pm

We would not have central banking not the moral rot we have that masquerades as freedom and democracy. Hitler cleaned up the cesspool created by the Zionists of the day.
Read Mein Kamph and get it first hand as far as what Hitler believed and fought for.
Gatsby posted an excellent link on the other WWII article here today. We couldn’t be any worse off.
Here’s one for the Hates us some Hitlers crowd to think about. He didn’t believe in democracy because it encouraged demagogues to promise the world and deliver nothing. What do we have today besides nothing. As our Fiat system begins it’s very rapid decent into Zimbabwe II we will realize we have nothing. Even our children and grandchildren have been taken from us by state liberalism.
So I have answered your question. Here is my question.
Are we better off yet?

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Fleabaggs
September 3, 2019 1:50 pm

And not even a hug after the ass raping. A German ass raping is just as painful as an American ass raping. It is the nature of all government to be coercive and authoritarian no matter how they are founded. That is always where we end up…..we can’t even give “no government” a try as there are always those who think they have the right to rule over others.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Martel's Hammer
September 3, 2019 2:43 pm

Martell.
Yes that’s right, and on that basis we can actually debate a replacement. My point is that the form we are currently using is just as oppressive and stifling. Several of us have tried to get a debate on a replacement going here a few years ago to no avail.
Without a doable replacement in hand, revolutions are futile.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Fleabaggs
September 3, 2019 3:11 pm

why replace our govt?
if we would follow our constitution,insist upon declarations of war b4 troops were committed,and end welfare,we would be in high cotton–

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  TampaRed
September 3, 2019 3:26 pm

Tampa..
Because our government replaced our constitution, we have to replace our government.

daddysteve
daddysteve
  Fleabaggs
September 4, 2019 12:12 pm

If that ain’t a
“meme” it should be.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  daddysteve
September 4, 2019 12:26 pm

Monte..
I didn’t realize how catchy it sounded till later.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Fleabaggs
September 3, 2019 5:29 pm

I am in 100% agreement with the above. We need a clean sheet do-over. We can have similar principles but we need to rip this country down to the studs and rebuild……all personnel go to the parking lot and we add government (armed or otherwise) on a zero-based budget…..using GAAP not fund accounting. Fuck them. At the Federal level, we need some type of Defense Department (smaller the better) and a couple of embassies (1-2 in Europe, Tokyo, New Delhi) and zero taxes, regulation and no need for any other cabinet-level appointments.

Don’t get me started on the Legislative Judiciary branches.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Martel's Hammer
September 3, 2019 5:57 pm

Martell..
When I was a Kid we had 1 cop for the entire well populated township and he used his own car. Natural law was the rule. Families protected each other and exacted justice according to the offense. Heaven help anyone who raped a young girl or a smart mouthed kid who disrespected his elders. Shotgun weddings were real.
There are always going to be abuses but by and large the extended family took care of things. And there was not a house anywhere that didn’t have a shotgun behind the door.

daniel
daniel
  Martel's Hammer
September 3, 2019 1:13 pm

who owns the banks? keep digging.

EC
EC
  Martel's Hammer
September 3, 2019 6:53 pm

Hammer, I got my ass kicked when I said as much, that the Brits wanted Germany to contain Russia.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  EC
September 3, 2019 8:09 pm

EC..
Not by us alleged Jew hating Nazis. It wuz da Trump luvin Hail Britania crowd.
BTW. We know you’re not gay, just couldn’t resist the opportunity. Sorry buddy, won’t do that again. I’ll think up something else.

EC
EC
  Fleabaggs
September 3, 2019 11:28 pm

It’s ok, it doesn’t bother me because, not gay. It’s just my natural inclination to escalate a fight, that’s why me and Hollywood aren’t allowed to play together anymore.

BTW, I only said I was gonna kick your asses, I hadn’t begun to fight when you guys folded like cheap sluts.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  TC
September 3, 2019 2:10 pm

though there was no jewish country then,your point is clear–
the only way to make that claim is to deny the holocaust,is that what you mean?

anarchyst
anarchyst
September 3, 2019 9:27 am

World jewry declared war on Germany in 1933.
With tomes such as “Germany Must Perish” by Theodore N. Kaufman, it was easy to see how jews could be considered to be the “enemy” of Germany.
This book is so genocidal in nature, the author advocated the complete destruction of the German people, German culture, AND German society.
According to the author, NOTHING of Germany or its people was to be permitted to exist.
Total annihilation and destruction of Germany, its people, culture, and everything else German was the jewish goal.
This book is still available from various sources and is a good example of the anti-German mindset that jews and others had…and still have to this day.
The German government, along with the zionists had no choice but to marginalize its jewish population.
Most people are unaware that it was the zionist leadership that proposed and succeeded in requiring jewish Germans to wear the “star of david” on their outer clothing.
This “marginalization” was necessary in order to make the jews look like “victims” and to “encourage” them to emigrate to what was then known as Palestine–all a part of the zionist plan.
The “Transfer Agreement” was an “exit visa” system which was used to formulate the formal procedures for jews to leave the country. Extermination was never a part of the plan.
The “Warsaw Ghetto” that jews were consigned to was not the bleak, dismal place that is described in most articles. In fact, the jewish zionist intelligentsia and leaders dined in fine restaurants, and had fine living quarters within the Warsaw Ghetto.
The “six million” figure, used to justify pity and sorrow for jews was a total fabrication and was used to evoke sympathy for the jews since the mid 1800s. The “jewish persecution complex” was alive then, as well as today.
Most people are unaware that German jews lived in Berlin and in other cities throughout the whole time of WW2. In fact, many jews served in the German military.
WW2 was a win for zionism and communism. We are living with the results to this very day.

Herr Der
Herr Der
  anarchyst
September 3, 2019 10:58 am

{{{World jewry declared war on Germany in 1933}}}!

Yes, the vast Der Jewish horde! It’s the Der Jews! The Der Jews declared war on Germany!

{{{ In fact, many jews served in the German military}}}!

You mean Mischlings. The same Mischlings that Herr Der Adolf had the magical power to de-taint of the Der Jew. About 150,000 mixed breed Germans. There were a small handfull of {{{Jews}}} who served in the Officers Korps who were in the ranks before Hitlers regime… most were purged.

{{{The “six million” figure}}}!

Funny that. There were approximately 15 million Der Jews in 1933. Why, just today, there are approximately 15 million Der Jews. But we all know that the Der Jews don’t breed, because according to the Herr Der’s, the Der Jews are all gay.

Always remember a key-word in the German lexicon: Lebensraum. The Septemberprogramm of territorial expansion. Now, go look at a map of Europe between 1700 and 2019. Germany didn’t even become a recognized nation state until 1871. Herr Der Adolf should have stayed home.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  anarchyst
September 3, 2019 12:09 pm

Well, your timing is a bit off…..Germany Must Perish was published in 1941, I would assume as a response to Nazi oppression/slaughter of the Jews.

You are just wrong on the Yellow Star being “asked for”….typical blame the victim mentality….

https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-the-yellow-star-1779682

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Martel's Hammer
September 3, 2019 12:34 pm

MH, since when have facts meant anything to these clowns? Keep in mind half of them are troll provocateurs trying to bring all the shitheads out of the woodwork so the SPLC can destroy another site.

anarchyst
anarchyst
  Harrington Richardson
September 3, 2019 1:50 pm

There was no “holocaust” and I can prove it…
So if “the holocaust” is thoroughly documented, why do all the documents show that it never happened?
All of the German camp documents were stored at Bad Aralson since the end of the war. The Red
There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent Zionists collaborated with the German government and formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the transfer of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Absolutely nothing was noted or recorded about extermination.
Official International Red Cross figures for all camp deaths total around 731,000-NOT 6 million. In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war.
If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build camps hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not add up.
Something BIG stinks in this whole jewish holocaust deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made deals with the German government in order to make life uncomfortable for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the yellow Star of David armband so that they could be easily identified. German jews considered themselves Germans first and had no desire to emigrate.
The establishment of a homeland along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist dream since the 1800s. Many periodicals of the day starting with the 1800s touted the “six-million” figure.
What better way to encourage emigration to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the cream of German society (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish holocaust is out . . .
As cremation of ONE human body takes hours, the amount of time claimed by holocaust promoters is a physical, scientific and statistical impossibility. Their claims also do not account for the “downtime” that crematoria require for maintenance, etc. In addition, there are no mass burial sites that are commensurate with the claims of “six-million” or even “one-million”. There is also a jewish prohibition on excavation of claimed possible burial sites. WHY?? Because THEY DO NOT EXIST.
There is even a prohibition on the use of ground penetrating radar to search for burial sites. WHY?? If millions were gassed and cremated, the activities would have lasted well into the 1950s.
The so-called jewish holocaust has been turned into a de-facto religion in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish holocaust truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the tribe that FEAR the real truth of the jewish holocaust being exposed is evident.
A questionable judicial “trick” used in holocaust trials is that of “judicial notice” in which TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE KANGAROO COURTS THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. Judicial notice, once invoked against a defendant, disallows the introduction of evidence that does not conform to “commonly accepted beliefs” about the “holocaust”, EVEN IF THE EVIDENCE EXPOSES THE HOLOCAUST LIES AND FABRICATIONS THAT CAN EASILY BE DEBUNKED. A question for you holocaust promoters-why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth?? What are you afraid of??
When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a cash cow that keeps on giving. . . there’s NO business like SHOAH business. Zionist complicity in this event is carefully covered up.
A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question official jewish holocaust orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the official jewish holocaust story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to all things holocaust. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment.
The latest victims of holocaustianity are Ursula Haverbeck, Monika Schaefer and Sylvia Stolz, who are elderly grandmothers who have been prosecuted and sentenced to maximum-security prison in Germany for incorrect thoughts.
If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the chosen) to engineer the jewish holocaust, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish holocaust was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many holocausts of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish holocaust is the only one that counts . . . It is interesting to note that the term holocaust to mean mass extermination was never used during or immediately after WW2, only coming to vogue in the 1960s, when it was noted that false guilt could be assigned and reparations could be procured.
Look at the commercialization of the so-called jewish holocaust while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten.
To assure a continuing supply of jewish holocaust survivors, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean camp numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and disease-holocaust transference syndrome. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish holocaust survivors are infected with this disease and should also be considered holocaust survivors, eligible for holocaust reparations. According to these jewish psychiatrists, even unrelated individuals can be “infected”with this jewish-only “malady”.
Since the Zionist jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least)..
This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a homeland Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jewish declaration of war on Germany) started in1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.
Let’s not forget that as “world jewry” declared WAR on Germany in 1933, a book “Germany Must Perish” was authored by Theodore N. Kaufman, a jew, who advocated the complete destruction and extermination of Germany, it’s people and culture, and erasure from the world timeline and history.
Zionists have been predicting a jewish homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a holocaust of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures). The International Red Cross had full access to all of the camps for the duration of the war, yet reported NOT ONE INSTANCE of extermination or mass murder.
Regarding that (jewish freak show) holocaust showplace Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called gas chambers. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called gassing took place. There is a gas chamber chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the operators of these supposed gas chambers. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these camps.
American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported gas chambers, had them tested and published his results. The absence of Prussian blue (ferricyanide) in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the gas chambers did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the chimney for the supposed gas chamber does not connect to anything.
Mr. Leuchter was rewarded for his search for TRUTH with his professional and personal character assassination by those of the tribe. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts law for practicing engineering without a license-a law which had never been used vindictively before or since. . .After his report was published, he was harassed by Israeli “deep state” types (mossad) who he successfully “outed”.
It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to create the death camps for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.
It is interesting to note that, before the camps were liberated by the allies, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be liberated by the Russian allies.
It is said that the light of day is the best disinfectant in the search for truth Unfortunately this quote does not apply to all things holocaust. It appears that there are those”holocaust promoters who are afraid of the TRUTH. Hence the prosecution and incarceration of those who dare question aspects of this historical event.
I urge all holocaust believers to check these things out for yourselves IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find

TC
TC
  anarchyst
September 3, 2019 3:53 pm

The IRC report scans I’ve seen show under 272k deaths total for all the camps. That said, LLPOH will be along soon to say that the IRC was just parroting the (meticulously kept) numbers the Germans gave them so they don’t count.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  TC
September 3, 2019 4:49 pm

He can’t help it. He’s been chipped.
It’s similar to when Biden used to get aroused by the mere mention of Light Rail.
At the mention of the Djiew word the NSA sends a 5G signal to his chip which then overrides all else.

anarchyst
anarchyst
  Martel's Hammer
September 3, 2019 2:14 pm

You are correct. “Germany Must Perish” was published in 1941. However, “world jewry” DID declare war on Germany in 1933. There are newspaper headlines declaring as such.
This was all planned by the world zionists to get the USA involved in WW2 and to fulfill the promise that the British made to the zionists with the Balfour Declaration–selling out the Palestinian occupants. Of course, it “bit them in the @ss” when jewish terrorists bombed the King David Hotel…the first modern-day act of terrorism.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  anarchyst
September 3, 2019 2:49 pm

Anarchyst..
They also successfully declared war on Czarist Christian Russia which was then used to destroy it’s most dreaded enemy, Fascism.
I don’t recall if it was Marx or Lenin who said Communism needs Democracy.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  anarchyst
September 3, 2019 12:31 pm

Another steaming pile of dog shit from our Stormer volk.

anarchyst
anarchyst
  Harrington Richardson
September 3, 2019 1:46 pm

Good morning!

I see I’ve woken up the Unit 8200 and hasbara folks.

Shalom,

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  anarchyst
September 3, 2019 11:09 pm

Says the steaming pile. Now run off and polish your knee high boots. You want to look sharp when you’re beating your meat watching “Man In The High Castle” reruns.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Harrington Richardson
September 3, 2019 2:18 pm

It’s funny how triggered you people get when the truth gets dragged out into the light.

You are such worthless garbage.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Anonymous
September 3, 2019 11:13 pm

You are a cowardly little ZERO. Your whole life is a lame joke. So’s that of the company you keep.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Harrington Richardson
September 3, 2019 11:55 pm

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Where do you rate?

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  anarchyst
September 3, 2019 5:40 pm

https://www.holocaust-trc.org/denying-history/ Yep you and the other trogs are in good company. In your leathery little hearts, you know it happened and you are full of shit but are simply projecting your own angst and anger onto others. Same old same old……Pretty sad but if you think denying the holocaust and blaming the Jews for everything is productive I say go for it! I do so in the full knowledge that much like the flat earthers your views are simply wrong.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Martel's Hammer
September 3, 2019 6:31 pm

Yes, quite tragic that 6 million of the 4.5 million Jews in German-controlled territory were exterminated like bedbugs. So sad.

After the war the mere 4.3 million Jewish survivors applied for, and received, benefits from the post-war German government.

Pretty sad, but if you think perpetuating the baseless Jewish blood-libel against the German people and blaming Nazis for everything is productive, I say go for it. I do so in the full knowledge that much like the flat earthers your views are simply wrong.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Martel's Hammer
September 3, 2019 11:22 pm

MH these are some sick bastards. If this site were to ever get deplatformed it will be because of these morons.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Harrington Richardson
September 3, 2019 11:58 pm

Oh, yes. That old Hasbara talking point never gets old.

You aren’t even a bad joke.

daddysteve
daddysteve
  Martel's Hammer
September 4, 2019 12:23 pm

The truth doesn’t need to be protected with censorship and secrecy.

Herr Der
Herr Der
September 3, 2019 10:26 am

Anyone who believes that the camps, the mass killings, slavery would have ended… if the Nationalist Socialists AKA Nazis had won the war… has several screws loose.

The whole of National Socialism was based on Marx ~ it is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with a democratic order. Hitler was merely an unorthodox socialist. He believed that the problems of his predecessors were simply tactical, not philosophical.

“In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations. The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states. The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.” Sound familiar?

As for the Bolshevik Revolution, without the massive support of non-Jew Russians, it would have failed.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Herr Der
September 3, 2019 2:47 pm

“As for the Bolshevik Revolution, without the massive support of non-Jew Russians, it would have failed.”
lenin called these people useful idiots–

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TampaRed
September 3, 2019 3:35 pm

The Jewish Bolsheviks let out the worst filth from the Russian prisons, in exchange for following orders.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Herr Der
September 3, 2019 3:32 pm

“The whole of National Socialism was based on Marx”
So much Hasbara bullshit.

This is what you should have said: “As for the Bolshevik Revolution, without the massive support of non-Russian Jews, it would have failed.”

22winmag - Q is a psyop and Drumpf is lead actor
22winmag - Q is a psyop and Drumpf is lead actor
September 3, 2019 1:16 pm

Gee Pat, down this dusty path again?

The Epstein hoax and the El Paso and Dayton hoaxes are off the radar… with your help.

BB
BB

Churchill was one corrupt bastard . Him and Roosevelt and both were 33 degreed Freemasons. Do I have to tell what God the Freemasons worship. ? My grandfather used to say we won the war but
lost the country and this was in the 80s before he died.He was right. I used to wonder what he meant by that but I never ask.Now I know.We did , we have lost the country as far as white traditional Americans are concerned and it’s going to take rivers of blood to get it back. If we ever do.I think young whites have been brainwashed to the point it’s hopeless. Most probably would not think the American home land is worth fighting for.

TampaRed
TampaRed

winnie,
has miles jumped on the latest epstein turn–the owner of a modeling agency in paris who was good friends w/epstein has gone missing–

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ordo ab chao
September 3, 2019 10:26 pm

Look up Hutchison Whampoa.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Anonymous
September 4, 2019 1:09 pm

Anon..

That company was mentioned in the first link I grabbed from Rense.com. The article also mentions a partnership with a Bahama company…I haven’t looked up yet.

A quick search shows wiki info:

“Hutchison Whampoa originated as two separate companies, both founded in the 19th century. Hong Kong and Whampoa Dock was established in 1863, by British merchant John Duflon Hutchison, and Hutchison International was formed in 1877.
In the 1960s, Hutchison International – under Colonel Sir Douglas Clague (1917–1981) – gained a controlling interest of Hong Kong and Whampoa Dock, and in 1977 Hutchison acquired all of that company, creating Hutchison Whampoa Limited.”

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<<<—– dollars to doughnut holes says some of these owners are of the 'secret society' type.

Edit;

I did a quick search on the Grand Bahama Development Co. Ltd.:

"THE GRAND BAHAMA DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, LIMITED has been set up 2/24/1964 in state . The current status of the business is Inactive. The THE GRAND BAHAMA DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, LIMITED principal address is P.O.BOX 8, FREEPORT,, GRAND BAHAMAS. Meanwhile you can send your letters to P.O.BOX 8, FREEPORT,, GRAND BAHAMAS. The companys registered agent is PATTON & KANNER 213 SECURITY TRUST BUILDING, MIAMI, FL. The companys management are President, Director – Kates G, Vice President, Director – Fisher William, Vice President, Treasurer – Catren K W. The last significant event in the company history is DISSOLVED BY PROCLAMATION which is dated by 6/28/1971. This decision is take in action on unknown.”

https://florida.intercreditreport.com/company/the-grand-bahama-development-company-limited-817726

Who knows?

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 3, 2019 2:05 pm

The short answer: the globalists won WWII

Guys, imagine this:
Germany is finally defeated after WWI and condemned to the harshest reparation payments in the treaty of Versailles. The German people are driven into a new form of slavery as they watch their steel and coal leaving on trains to France. The Kaiser has been ousted, but no useful government has been established. Chaos prevails, culminating in the hyper inflation of 1923 and later the global recession, beginning in 1929. Eventually the strong man everybody is looking for in Germany is handed the reigns in January 1933 (Hitler did not take power, it was handed to him on a silver platter) and rebuilds the nation in record time to be the top military and technological force in Europe and that with tremendous lack of own natural resources like oil for example. How did this happen?
Who financed Hitler? Is the question that needs to be asked.

Out of WWI came the league of nations as a step to the NWO. But it was very weak and accomplished nothing. The nation states in Europe were still very hostile to each other.
So the bankers financed that most likely nation and the most likely people group to drag Europe into another war that would finally bring everybody together on the round table.

Out of WWII comes the UN, the EU and the Soviet Union. The NWO is making big headway, by gathering the World into a couple of big blocks that they now rule with a much tighter grip then ever before. Central banks are being strengthened every where and English becomes the world’s language. (So the British did win something after all)

Herr Der
Herr Der
September 4, 2019 12:14 pm

Der Adolf was such a nice guy. He was even seen patting little German Nazi children on the head. Why, if only we would have just let the Nazis Lebensraum the world. Europe and the world would be the model utopia of luv-ah. No more camps, no more mass executions, no forced labor. And everyone would be filled with the spirit of baby Nazi doe-eyed Jesus in a manger. Oh swoon! Can you imagine the world tip-toeing in the Nazi Tulips? Der Adolf would have wiped away every tear from our eyes, and there would have been no more death or mourning or crying or pain, and the former things would have passed away.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Herr Der
September 4, 2019 3:20 pm

You must be Mizrahi. Low 90s IQ.

The Modern Chronicler
The Modern Chronicler
September 6, 2019 8:25 am

I urge you all (those of you who are aware that the history of the Second World War as it was taught to us was wildly distorted, highly selective, and deliberately funneled to generate a certain “acceptable” point of view) to read this entire article at the ever-reliant Unz portal.

You will be left indignant with both the Poles and the British leaders of the time.

History, I learned over decades of study, has no “nice guys” and the Poles and Brits are perfect examples.