Will the US Become a Socialist Country?

Guest Post by Jeff Thomas via International Man

US socialism

Recently, many political hopefuls on the Left in the US have “come out” as socialists. Some may have been socialists all along, whilst others may merely be hoping to cash in on the popularity of avowed socialist Bernie Sanders in 2016.

Whatever the answer, those on the Right have gone into attack mode, fervently stating, “The US will never be a socialist country!”

This will unquestionably become the primary emotionally based issue until the 2020 election.

Of course, in the modern world, very few countries are entirely socialist, or entirely capitalist for that matter. Most are a combination. Certainly, no country is free from government sticking its fingers into free enterprise, even if it’s just as a regulator. It’s just a question of the degree of government meddling.

So, what will be the fate of the US in 2020? Will this be the death of capitalism there? Will it become a country in which goods and services fall under government control?

Well, let’s have a look.

Social Security is a most decidedly socialistic government programme, one that takes up (according to figures provided by the US Office of Management and Budget) 24% of US government spending.

Medicare, Medicaid, etc., also come under the heading of government-run management of goods and services, thereby defining them as socialist in nature. They’re responsible for 26% of government spending.

Add to that, Safety Net Programmes (9%), Benefits for Veterans and Federal Retirees (8%), Education (3%), Transportation Infrastructure (2%) and Science and Medical Research (2%) – all of which can be provided by the private sector – and the number rises to 74%. Another 4% of expenditure comes under the “miscellaneous” heading, but much of this, too, can be performed by the private sector.

In spite of this fact, government takes them all under its wing to the tune of $3.4 trillion annually.

The 1787 Constitution envisioned the government as being responsible for the Military (15%), Interest on Debt (7%) and International Affairs (1%) – presently, a total of 23%.

By the above tally, it’s safe to say that the government that runs the US is already over three-quarters socialist in its method of management.

But there may be those who discount some of the items that make up the 77%. They may say that it’s a good idea that, for example, roadbuilding or education be managed by government rather than the private sector.

So, even if we were to say that we’re happy to have government compete with the private sector in such areas, benefits alone still amount to 67% of spending.

That, in essence, means that the US is between two-thirds and three-quarters socialist now, depending upon your assessment of what a government should manage.

So, what does that mean? Is the US a socialist state already?

Well, like most states today, it’s a gumbo of mixed concepts. And to understand this, we should first look at one of the most misunderstood “isms”: fascism.

Fascism’s creator, Benito Mussolini, said, “Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism, because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”

This takeover of power by corporatism in the US began, in earnest, about a hundred years ago and, at this point, is virtually complete. Today, the US is run jointly by Big Business and government agencies. Collectively, they’re most commonly described as the “Deep State.”

They’re not subject to election and tend to be relatively invisible to the public. Those who run for office receive the limelight and are assumed by the electorate to “run the show,” although, they are, for the most part, bit players.

The actual management of the US is corporatist; however, the system by which it’s managed is an odd combination of (mostly) socialism and (to a lesser extent) capitalism.

It’s important to note that, whilst conservative political candidates tend to wrap themselves around the flag, vehemently asserting that they’ll not tolerate socialism, they do, in fact, vote in favour of increases in socialist programmes in every administration.

By contrast, liberal political candidates tend also to pretend that the US is still a capitalist state. This serves their rhetoric well, as it allows them to claim that the “present capitalist system” is failing Americans.

The system is indeed failing; however, it is not a capitalist system. Truth be told, the great majority of failings emanate from existing unworkable socialist programmes and their enormous costs.

Whilst both conservative and liberal candidates are far from accurate in their claims, liberals almost always hire better public relations firms and produce more effective rhetoric, and the US has moved steadily to the left for the last ninety years.

All of the above suggests that the slow slide into socialism in the US will continue.

But this may not play out at the present rate, as we’ve seen a significant wrinkle on the horizon that may alter the slow progression into socialism.

In 1929, a stock market collapse occurred under the leadership of a conservative president – a wealthy businessman who had never before run for public office. This event was used by liberals to enable them to bring in a far-left president and, under him, to move the US into a semi-socialist state.

The markets are presently in a bubble of historic proportions. And the US once again has a conservative president – a wealthy businessman who had never before run for public office. Should there be a crash prior to November 2020, the stage will be set to complete the transition to full socialism, using the same rhetoric as in 1929.

It’s important to remember that, after the 1929 crash, Americans were so enamoured of their incoming socialist president that they allowed him to be president for life. (He was elected to four terms and died in office.) If this were repeated in 2020, a full sixteen years would be available to make the transition to full socialism.

Add to this the fact that, in the 1930s, most people prided themselves on their self-reliance. Today, at least half of all Americans receive federal largesse, and rather than be ashamed, as they would have been in the 1930s, they often wear their government dependency as a badge of liberalism.

Considering all of the above, it’s safe to say that, whist full socialism in the US in the near future would depend upon as-yet-uncertain events, the US is nearly there already, and whatever happens, it will not be turning back.

Editor’s Note: Misguided economic ideas are advancing rapidly in the US. Socialism continues to grow in popularity among Americans. All signs point to this trend accelerating until it reaches a crisis… one unlike anything we’ve seen before.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
September 23, 2019 12:57 pm

Until they start deporting all the non-whites that have been imported over the past fifty years, this is just more empty bullshit from the fake-right grifters.

BL
BL
September 23, 2019 1:06 pm

A little late for that question, I would have asked when we became a communist country.

flash
flash
  BL
September 23, 2019 1:17 pm

Ding Ding… we have a winner!

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
  Vote Harder
September 23, 2019 3:42 pm

That works…especially since we’re told to accept Caitlin Jenner…who is only 30% a woman .

Blaine
Blaine
  BUCKHED
September 23, 2019 6:51 pm

0%

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
September 23, 2019 1:08 pm

Gary Allen hit the nail squarely on the head way back in 1971.

If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth program, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead it becomes the logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism, or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite. ~ None Dare Call It Conspiracy, Gary Allen

ragman
ragman
  Vote Harder
September 24, 2019 7:08 am

I remember that book, excellent read. A socialist is a communist without an AK47.

22winmag w/o tagline
22winmag w/o tagline
September 23, 2019 2:01 pm

Soon.

After we get rolled by tanks.

Photographic Proof the USSR Still Exists

TC
TC
September 23, 2019 2:26 pm

This question is only about 100 years too late.

Mista Shift
Mista Shift
September 23, 2019 2:44 pm

Will we be this or will we be that? We will be neither. And we will be both. In my view we are headed to a hybrid society having some elements of both socialism and capitalism. Either path leads to the same destination.

In the 1930’s M. King Hubbert (yes, the first peak oil guy) and Howard Scott (an early techo-messiah) founded Technocracy Inc. in New York City. They started the technocracy movement, which was quite popular during the Great Depression. The movement was at one time associated with Columbia University, and the Communist and Nazi regimes in Europe. With the start of WW2, the movement lost its momentum, but the ideas lived on. Post war proponents were Columbia Professor Zbigniew Brzezinski and David Rockefeller. Rockefeller founded the Tri-Lateral Commission in 1973 to make the ideas a reality. Other related groups: The United Nations, World Bank and the Council on Foreign relations. Many US administrators, cabinet members and politicians have come from the ranks of the TLC. Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, and G Bush senior come to mind.

What are the goals of Technocracy? Here are the highlights, paraphrased.
• Price based economy is out. Everything will be managed.
• Technical people will be in charge, without elections or accountability.
• Short work weeks of course. 20 hours or so.
• It’s a UTOPIA. All persons will be happy and have their needs met.
• One world government – No nationalist governments
• Sub-governments are subservient to the government above.
• Religion replaced by secular humanism. (Atheism or Scientism)
• No private property
• Currency based on energy production, not metals or debt.
• Currency has expiration date – hence no saving. Use it or lose it.
• Government according to scientific and engineering principles
• All human activity monitored and measured (5G will be perfect!)

I’m not sure what the plan was for International Banks and Multinational Corporations, but its safe to assume that both will still be around. Capitalism will exist at the highest levels, and as a flourishing black market for us entrepreneurial types.

The world is already well on its way – some countries further along in some areas. China, with her commie politics and social credit system is advanced in those areas. The European Union has done a pretty good job of destroying the nations of Europe and control by technocrat. Our US surveillance systems are unparalleled I would say. Cell phones are a masterstroke in my opinion. Keep the people propagandized, docile and entertained while you monitor the hell out of them.

Whether the world gets to full implementation remains to be seen. Who will be the big boss? Mark Zuckerberg? Also, given man’s history and human nature, this state won’t last forever. Sure, there will be gulags, wars and re-education camps along the way. But in a hundred years we will be on to something else. Maybe living in caves again after an EMP event.

As an aside, when the Muslim population of Europe fully flowers, this will be a giant fly in the ointment. Don’t be surprised if everyone in Brussels loses their heads.

So now, Republican or Democrat?

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Mista Shift
September 23, 2019 8:34 pm

this story fits nicely between mista shift’s govt. commentary above & uncooperative below talking about corporate collectivism–
a huge,private database of license plates is being continuously collected,9 billion images thus far,that are put into a database that is sold to companies that have a reason to find a particular vehicle–
the data is also sold to govt. agencies–
guess who it is gathering the images?repo men,many of whom have had cameras installed on their vehicles,along w/gps info so that location data is provided along w/vehicle data–

Your license plate may be tracked in a massive surveillance database

mark
mark
  TampaRed
September 23, 2019 8:56 pm

Tampa,

Counter surveillance tactic:

Spray-On Mud Makes a Splash:
https://www.wired.com/2005/06/spray-on-mud-makes-a-splash/

Posting this for a friend who hates speed cameras. He keeps a can for the ‘city’ trips handy, dandy.

Uncooperative
Uncooperative
September 23, 2019 2:48 pm

Corporatism is the new collectivism because slavery is anchored in economics. I think it was Hardscrabble who once said here that HR Departments are the new Room 101. Take home that paycheck, but keep your mouth shut and your head down. Otherwise, force the new Outer Party members to choose and, if necessary, give them a proper one-finger salute on the way out the door. Because the best revenge on them is to be happy.

Uncola
Uncola
  Uncooperative
September 23, 2019 2:56 pm

Indeed. Overweight “Big Sisters” daily tearing down various Emmanuel Goldsteins. Whether working on behalf of monolithic multinational corporations, or governments – like Jack Nicholson said in “The Departed” (paraphrased): “When you’re staring into the barrel of their “guns”, what difference does it make?”

Fascism, Socialism, and Communism all killed the Capitalism Star. All are statism packaged into diversely patterned wrapping paper and topped off with the same rainbow-colored ribbons and bows. Collectivists, all.

King James
King James
September 23, 2019 3:02 pm

Revelation 18:4;

‘come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.’

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  King James
September 24, 2019 7:33 am

Sound advise. And how does one leave “her”?

dougnut
dougnut
September 23, 2019 3:13 pm

What is going to happen, with increasing frequency, is that certain cities will become bastions of socialism. First, a huge tech company (Amazon comes to mind) whose owners are left wing lunatics, will move in, and these locations will get polluted with socialist ideals (life is fair, as long as we all pitch in).

Next, the local political positions will be filled by the amozonians, who will eventually decide that working for a living sucks, and they will move onto state level politics, and then yada yada, boom, the whole state is now a “Green Revolution” state, with federal grants for solar and wind, attracting prius/patuchuli stinkers.

I hope and pray this happens, because shit attracts files, and shitty ideas attract shitty people, who love to support “those less fortunate”, and what comes next is the FSA will move to these places (San Fran comes to mind), and then these places become basket cases, where logical people can say “they deserve all that crap, because they believe in all that crap”

Socialism=human poo on your shoe.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
September 23, 2019 3:41 pm

The best case for Socialism in America is a toss up between the 5.56 and the 7.62 .

BB
BB
  BUCKHED
September 23, 2019 4:35 pm

After the coming economic collapse we probably won’t be a nation at all. I think America will tear itself apart .
We are not use to a “low ” standard of living as in third world poor but I fear it’s coming .

Tomthall
Tomthall
  BB
September 23, 2019 10:34 pm

Brother, you may be right!

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 23, 2019 4:30 pm

No matter what system there is a will to slavery.

That’s what all the H1b visas are all about. The subjects that The Doug Cassys of the world call citizens will never be able to save and own anything.

The ruling class will zap you of all your time running on a treadmill for a carrot just out of reach.

And why should the Stag allow other Elk to populate his harem?

KaD
KaD
September 23, 2019 4:45 pm

With the demoncrats importing as many immigrants as possible and our education systems polluted by Marxists and commies I think America, or at least parts of it, could easily become socialist. And it scares the crap out of me.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 23, 2019 4:47 pm

Let’s see is America socialist ?
We have a ruling elite oligarchy that are insulated from most laws governing the bulk of the population . We have millions of tax payer funded minions many who are armed to serve as collection agents to assure funding for their wages and benefits all of which are underfunded though most retire with full benefits at 50 to 55 . This as there private sector counter parts are told their pension evaporated as an unsecured liability in bankruptcy but you keep working and paying your taxes as the minions and oligarchy deem fair .
So those connected to government do well and those forced to support get fucked !
Sounds like socialism to me !

Pequiste
Pequiste
September 23, 2019 9:47 pm

Everyone likes a free lunch (and lots of other free shit too), from the worst ghetto queen babymomma, to the hyper finance Wall St banker scumbag and all others in between. As long as someone else is paying the freight folks and corporations are good with it. We better watch out as we are going to build an inescapable social prison for the body, mind, and spirit. But it will be ok cause the next sucker is paying for it, right?

BL
BL
  Pequiste
September 24, 2019 1:44 am

Pequiste- You forgot the really big welfare queens…….banks. Bank bailouts in trillions are nothing to sneeze at if we are pointing the proverbial finger.

Pequiste
Pequiste
  BL
September 24, 2019 9:48 am

Hadn’t forgotten; big banks are what was meant by “…hyper finance Wall St banker scumbag…”

And yes, banks and corporations LOVE socialism and welfare that enriches them or passes the responsibility of bad choices onto the Lumpen.

J. Frieden
J. Frieden
September 24, 2019 4:57 am

You do know that state intervention in the economy doesn’t equal socialism. Also while it is true that there is no country with a completely free market economy, that is not the definition of capitalism. The US definitely still is a capitalist country. The question should be if it’s going to move towards social democracy or welfare capitalism. That certainly is a possibility within the next few years.

old white guy
old white guy
September 24, 2019 6:58 am

If you want to know if you live in a socialist country ask just what the government does not control in some way or at some level. America has been a socialist country for decades.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
September 24, 2019 1:21 pm

> 2,000 retweets of this (from a 26 year old in Washington state):

thinkforyourself
thinkforyourself
September 24, 2019 6:28 pm

The Burning Platform is a socialist news agency whose people don’t know squat about Social Security! It isn’t a socialist program dumbass dickheads, everyone who is supposed to reap the benefits paid into it. It is the democrats who your platform must love, that gives it to illegals, Muslim refugees and anyone else including themselves, by putting IOU’s in the pot, but never pay it back! That is the reason it is going broke!

centaurious
centaurious
September 24, 2019 7:21 pm

It won’t if we execute all the socialists!

True statement!