This law allows hospitals to kidnap you for profit

Guest Post by Simon Black

An 89 year old man named Robert Allen was feeling depressed after Christmas.

He went to the emergency room, and told the doctor that he had thoughts of hurting himself. Using his powers under the Baker Act, the doctor sent Robert to a mental health facility called North Tampa Behavioral.

Florida’s Baker Act allows doctors, police, or judges to involuntarily commit patients to psychiatric hospitals for up to 72 hours if they show signs that they may hurt themselves or others.

But North Tampa Behavioral has a problem letting patients go.

Robert repeatedly told the facility he would like to leave. But after the three days, the hospital refused to release him.

This is actually illegal.

The only way the hospital can continue to legally hold a patient after three days is if they’re ordered to do so by a judge.

And if a hospital feels that they need to continue holding a patient, they’re required to formally request a court’s approval.

The Baker Act does authorize a psychiatric facility to hold a patient involuntarily for up to five additional days as soon as they file the request.

So, in total, Florida law allows a psychiatric facility to hold people against their will for eight days before any legal proceedings are required.

In the case of Robert Allen, he was released on the eighth day, just before the court hearing was supposed to have taken place.

It turns out that the psychiatric facility filed the request on Day 3 (as required by law), held Mr. Allen for an additional five days as they are legally entitled to do so, then CANCELLED their request and released Mr. Allen on Day 8.

If this were merely a single incident, it might be a coincidence.

But some investigative reporting from the local paper in Tampa shows this is a pattern with the facility that held Mr. Allen– North Tampa Behavioral.

It turns out that the hospital has a huge financial incentive to hold patients against their will. One night at North Tampa Behavioral costs $1,500. And given that the hospital admits thousands of patients each year, a few extra nights really adds up.

According to the report, the hospital habitually files legal requests to involuntarily hold patients past the 3-day limit… allowing them to hold patients for an additional five days (and charge an extra $7,500 per patient).

Then they conveniently cancel the hearing at the last minute, determining that the patients’ emotional states have miraculously improved.

In this way, the hospital is able to charge for extra days, but they don’t actually have to provide any evidence that patients should remain in their facility on an involuntary basis.

This is pretty scary when you think about it.

Look, obviously the Land of the Free is not North Korea. But this does highlight some pretty big issues about personal liberty.

People love to sing songs about how free they are. And yet there are literally millions of pages of laws, codes, and regulations at the federal, state, and local level that can deprive you of your freedom, including having you kidnapped and held against your will.

The Baker Act in Florida is just one example. There are countless more.

Nearly every local or country government across the country has Child Protective agencies that have the power to take your children away from you even when you’ve done nothing wrong.

Civil Asset Forfeiture laws entitle police forces to seize your property when you are completely innocent of any wrongdoing

Dozens of government agencies have the power to freeze your life savings with nothing more than a phone call to your bank.

The federal government can cancel your passport if they feel, in their sole discretion, that you owe back taxes.

Having some extra savings in a foreign bank account, for example, is not only completely legal, but it’s a sensible thing to do.

This is all part of why I write so much about having a Plan B.

If you find your bank account ever unjustly frozen, having funds in another jurisdiction ensures your life won’t be turned upside down while you battle with the government to release your money.

The same goes for having some physical cash and gold coins locked in a safe or secure storage facility.

Having a second passport guarantees that you’ll never be caught without the freedom to travel. And as we’ve discussed before, you might even be able to acquire a second passport at no cost because of your ancestry.

It’s all fine and well to be happy where you live and love your country. But have a rational view and understand both the good AND the bad… and then have a Plan B to reduce your exposure to the bad.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
September 27, 2019 10:32 am

So, the moral of this story is:

Never seek help from people who have put themselves in a position of power, the outcome will never be what you expected.

Ask help from friends and family first. That is what they are there for.

EC
EC
  Anonymous
September 27, 2019 10:53 am

And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country.

Annie
Annie
  Anonymous
September 27, 2019 12:30 pm

Ask help from friends and family first.

Only if you’re sure your family is like minded. If they call the cops to do a “welfare check” on you you might end up dead.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
September 27, 2019 10:40 am

I read this article earlier (dcdirtyclothesline, I think) and posted it to a comment from ‘tampared’. Note on another article here, Trump is quoted as saying ‘these people are sick, very sick’.

This all fits together nicely as we approach impeachment….maybe they will use the ‘unfit for office’ clause? Of course, the only real losers in this whole thing will be the red flagged gun owners, who have ‘acted erratically’, or said something ‘questionable’……

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<<——== the curtain is coming down on the 'murikan' show

America-The Land of the Plumed Serpent:

https://batshitcave.blogspot.com/2017/05/america-land-of-plumed-serpent.html

"Serpent symbolism is ancient, and seems to date all the way back to the origins of modern civilization. Despite its "wicked" reputation in the biblical sense, serpent symbolism pervades many significant aspects of our modern lives. When we go to the pharmacy we don't even blink when we see the double headed winged serpent symbols on walls, signs, bottles and logos. When we go to Starbucks, we barely notice the jolly serpent lady holding up her two tails on the logo. When we are driving, we might see a truck with a "MARINES" sticker on the bumper and a Snake Flag sticker next to it which says "Don't Tread on Me." The word AMERICA, the dollar sign, the Google logo, countless films, even the Apple logo subtly references the temptation of Eve by the serpent…And yet we rarely assume this symbolism is of any significance, if we even consciously notice it at all. But if it was not significant, why would it appear in so many important places and with such consistency over the years? Before exploring this, it is important to briefly look at some of the origins of serpent imagery, in order to fully appreciate its influence in America."

Amaracu-The Land of the Plumed Serpent:

EC
EC
September 27, 2019 10:44 am

Don’t call the cops, don’t go to the hospital. Got it.

EC
EC
September 27, 2019 10:47 am

The Bronze Serpent
…Then the LORD said to Moses, “Make a fiery serpent and mount it on a pole. When anyone who is bitten looks at it, he will live.” So Moses made a bronze snake and mounted it on a pole. If anyone who was bitten looked at the bronze serpent, he would recover.

EC
EC
September 27, 2019 10:48 am

Ashore on Malta
…Paul gathered a bundle of sticks, and as he laid them on the fire, a viper, driven out by the heat, fastened itself to his hand. When the islanders saw the creature hanging from his hand, they said to one another, “Surely this man is a murderer. Although he was saved from the sea, Justice has not allowed him to live.” But Paul shook the creature off into the fire and suffered no ill effects.…

EC
EC
September 27, 2019 10:50 am

Sheep among Wolves
Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town. Look, I am sending you out like sheep among wolves; therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. But beware of men; for they will hand you over to their councils and flog you in their synagogues.…

EC
EC
September 27, 2019 10:51 am

The War in Heaven
…But the dragon was not strong enough, and no longer was any place found in heaven for him and his angels. And the great dragon was hurled down— the ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him. And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of His Christ. For the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down—he who accuses them day and night before our God.…

northwest wind and rabbit tracks
northwest wind and rabbit tracks
September 27, 2019 11:00 am

please be aware in rural counties there is a “home visit by a physicians assistant” program, ostensibly under the guise of “we’re here to help you if you can’t make it in to the doctor’s office” but what they really want to do is get inside your home to assess the value of any assets you have so they can claim you are unable to mentally/physically care for yourself and need a court appointed guardian who will asset strip you, then dump you in a Medicare facility or hospital while they bleed Medicare/Medicaid. Do not let these folks into your home.

TampaRed
TampaRed
September 27, 2019 2:05 pm

i went on line & checked them out–
they are actually located in the far northern burbs,so far north that they’re in the next county–
they are also owned by a huge conglomerate called acadian healthcare so beware in your area also–
it was tough to find a single good review,even from family members who were having their relatives committed 4 serious problems–

Steve
Steve
September 27, 2019 9:45 pm

….and you wonder why healthcare insurance premiums are about out of reach for the middle class….