Submitted by Stephen V.
Guest Post By: Hyram F. Suddfluffel, PhD, (Political Science)
I have a degree in Political Science, and I am a card-carrying
Libertarian. I’ve been studying politics and political history for the
past 30 years. My specialty is U.S. Presidents. That said, I hope that
the House of Representatives impeaches Trump. Let me tell you what will happen next!
1. The House can pass articles of impeachment over the objections of the
Republicans, and refer to the Senate for trial.
2. The Senate will conduct a trial. There will be a vote, and the
Republicans will vote unanimously, along with a small number of
Democrats, to not convict the President. Legally, it will all be over
at that point.
3. However, during the trial, and this is what no one is thinking
about right now, the President’s attorneys will have the right to
subpoena and question ANYONE THEY WANT.. That is different than the special counsel investigation, which was very one-sided.
So, during the impeachment trial, we will be hearing testimony from James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Glenn Simpson, Donna Brazile, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch, Christopher Steele, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, and a whole host of other participants in this whole sordid affair and the ensuing cover up activities. A lot of dirt will
be dug up; a lot of truth will be unveiled. Finger pointing will
occur. Deals will start being made, and suddenly, a lot of democrats
will start being charged and going to prison.
All this, because, remember, the President’s team will now, for the
first time, have the RIGHT to question all of these people under oath
– and they will turn on each other. That is already starting.
4. Lastly, one more thing will happen, the Senate will not convict the
President. Nothing will happen to Trump. Most Americans are clueless
about political processes, the law, and the Constitution. Most
Americans believe that being impeached results in removal from office.
They don’t understand that phase 2 is a trial in and by the Senate,
where he has zero chance of conviction. Remember, the Senate is
controlled by Republicans; they will determine what testimony is
allowed — and **everything** will be allowed, including: DNC
collusion with the Clinton campaign to fix the election in favor of
Hillary, the creation of the Trump dossier, the cover up and
destruction of emails that very likely included incriminating
information.
They will incriminate each other for lying to the FISA
court, for spying and wiretapping the Trump campaign, and for
colluding with foreign political actors, especially George Soros.
After the Senate declines to convict the President, we will have an
election, and Trump will win. It will be a backlash against democrat
petulance, temper tantrums, hypocrisy and dishonesty. Even minorities
will vote for Trump, because, for the first time, they will see that
democrats have spent 2+ years focused on maintaining their own power,
and not doing anything at all about black murders in Chicago,
homelessness, opioids, and other important issues that are actually
killing people. And, we will spend the following four years listening
to politicians and pundits claim that the whole impeachment was
rigged.
So let’s move on to impeachment.
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Per the below, will presiding Chief Justice Roberts be able to influence the course of events? If so, how much?
“The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present.”
From: Article I, Section 3 via
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States
Easy, cause a national emergency and lock the doors to the senate allow only the 17 dem senators in for the vote. There, there’s your 2/3 vote of “members present”.
day 984
() more hearings
() more investigations
() no charges
() no convictions
() no prison time
() no executions
look, a rainbow farting unicorn!
Not surprised
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The Pubbies don’t have the balls to do anything of the sort. They will fold like they always do. There may not be enough votes to convict in the Senate but the eunuchs in the Senate will be totally impotent in the dog and pony show known as the “trial”. The republicans in 2019 are as useless as tits on a boar.
This article is spot-on, and exactly what I said from day 1. The BIG question is why this desperate move….and it is desperate, that’s obvious. Was something else coming to light?
Great points, except that the Democrats and deep state control the media, so they will cover up most of the damning revelations coming from the Senate hearings, and magnify anything damaging to the president. The impeachment proceedings will likely help fire up Trump supporters and opponents alike. They’ll each listen only to what they want to hear, but the supporters won’t hear much and the opponents will hear plenty supporting their biases from the MSM. Whether it has much of an effect on the election is open to question.
We’ve been reading for two years now how all the bad guys listed in the account above were just about to face justice, and nothing has happened. At this point I’ll be shocked if anyone important is charged. A low-level flunky or two, yes; Obama, Clinton, Lynch, Holder, never.
Funny how the Koch’s just joined forces and Soros threw their money behind the Dems for 2020.
Billionaires don’t throw their money behind people going to jail soon.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447420-koch-network-launching-4-new-pacs-in-preparation-for-2020-primary
i didn’t read the link winnie but what’s the surprise here?the kochs have been moving left recently & soros,big deal–
btw,i read a couple of weeks ago that charles koch’s estate might have as much as a 20b liability–
No wonder he’s getting in bed with Soros and these kinds of folks:
kochs hate paying americans american wages
Any day now, just ask Q…stick with the plan…4D chess, remember?
This whole show is about campaigning for contributions from us sheep. Rile up their bases on each side get more check to their campaign….
Wishful thinking, based on a belief that Senate Republicans (as a group) will carry those crosses. Not likely.
The Dems are addicted to the limelight, they don’t care if their act is panned by the audience, they will just tell each other “those stupid rubes, they have no idea what we are trying to do to them”
The show will go on, while history changes and no “reputable sources” report about anything other than the approved narrative.
Did anybody notice that the Houties attacked and defeated 3 armoured brigades of Saudi Mercs, inside Saudi Territory this past weekend? No? No MSM stories about a bunch of sandal wearing desert rats with rpgs and ak47s defeating the Kingdom, on their own turf?
Of course not, that is not narrative quality info, it does not fit the TDS meme that the MSM is spewing 24/7/365.
Interesting take. So pilosi doesn’t know this? Doubtful. She’s a wily old cunt. I really suspect that the fix is in.
Thanks for the post.
Pass the popcorn.
bs quote
fuck you very much for making shit up.
blow me, fuckstick.
https://www.azquotes.com/author/90-John_Adams
Wow, talk about out of touch.
That’s a Libertarian for you.
#1 He’s deluded if he thinks there aren’t enough Senate Republicans willing to roll over and vote guilty, more than enough with the Democrats to convict. They are probably itching for a chance to make their PC bones.
#2 They can call up every government worker who has ever lived, and all they have to do is repeat the following phrase until they are dismissed: “I take the 5th.”
Game over.
There are Senate Republicans who would be inclined to vote guilty, but 16? And do we assume Trump will do nothing to fight back or create some heavy incentive for Senate Repubs to support him? Do we assume Trump has no tools, like dirt to go after Senate Repubs? I think the next six months are going to be very interesting.
There are 47 Dems in the Senate. They’d need 20 Republicans. Not at all out of the question. Start with the 8 on the SSCI https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Select_Committee_on_Intelligence add in Romney and a couple other fegulas and you’re halfway there. And that’s before the CIA starts leaning on the rest, threatening their families and threatening to release any incriminating shit they’ve collected via the NSA. Hell, with the right pressure applied, they could probably get a unanimous conviction 100-0.
You can bet your last donut that CO Sen, Cory Gardener and IA Sen, Joni Earst will mouth some bullshit and vote to impeach. Same with both scum from UT. And it wouldn’t surprise if our very own Cornyn did likewise.
Rule of thumb – anyone who starts an essay by giving me his credentials first is about to make a weak argument.
Spot on.
Makes me wonder why you seem to take so many of these political assholes at face value.
I don’t – I think for myself. What you don’t like is that I don’t subscribe to your world view.
That means sometimes I’m going to agree with you and sometimes I won’t. Sometimes I might agree with Trump and sometimes I won’t. I agree with the farmer about the issue of the 5th. The swamp is not going to incriminate itself under oath. It’s crazy to think otherwise. As for the number of Repubs that are closet RHINOS – time tells that tale. All we can do is speculate and wait.
Anyways – I’m going to hit the hills and go and try and tip over a deer this evening.
You kids have fun.
Hence the term “seems.”
I don’t pretend to know anyone here, except the handful I met back in July.
we expect jerky 4 xmas,or else yer posting privileges are kaput–
Not even a Libertarian argument…which doesn’t apply in an impeachment proceeding and then he goes on to embarrass himself with the conventional wisdom pablum. Impeachment is not a legal process but inherently a political process….
The idea that Senate Republicans will support Trump is wishful thinking. Senate Republicans will do (and only do) what is best for themselves….fuck Trump, the country, constitution etc.
Eg. Mitten’s advisor was on the BOD of Burisma along with Hunter Biden….what do you think Mittens is going to do? Senator Burr of the infamous Senate Intelligence Committee is another compromised member who was involved in the Russiagate coup….and on and on….how many of the GOP members are subject to blackmail (as is Chief Justice Roberts)…I am looking at Limpwrist Lindsey Graham.
These creatures have already sold their souls to gain power in the first place…loyalty/truth are not words in their vocabulary.
the 5th ain’t as important as you think–all it takes is giving immunity to a couple of people who have info about subject a that you have absolute proof of the answers to the questions you ask–when they lie you have them set up 4 perjury–many of these people will not chance a perjury charge–
this is off topic but here is something i just read earlier today–we often talk about ai on this site–here’s an article about testing being done on autonomous ships–
There’s always I don’t recall in a pinch.
We all know who loves to use that particular phrase.
Now an autonomous ship, would that be less vulnerable to piracy (hardened inaccessible control room)? What could possibly go wrong…..
My own take on this impeachment nonsense is that it’s being used as a distraction to cover for Biden and Obama and some others who were in on the Ukrainian coup. Remember Victoria Nuland handing out cookies and telling those in that ‘fuck the EU” phone call that she had all the players lined up to take over key positions once the coup was complete. Biden made out like a bandit as did his son, Snorty McCoke Face along with many other business men and politicians.
Barr needs to be neutered as well in his investigations. Both Trump and Barr are going to be discredited, neutered and rendered impotent via the media’s public opinion slander. the lies and innuendo are already thick at this point and the NYT along with all the other major media are telling outright lies because they realize most people only hear what’s said without bothering to do research.
As to impeachment….the dems have been screeching about that since day one, that’s ALL they do except when they’re padding their pockets via campaign fund fraud and pay-for-play schemes while deifying illegals and promising free shit out the wazoo.
When all is said and done, the dems will go ahead with the impeachment hearings and trials, these are show trials and the braindead American public will swallow whatever bullshit the media feeds them. It’s a toss up as to what the republicans will do, all I know is that IF they do indeed impeach Trump all hell will break loose in flyover country. The leftists will dance in the streets and the corruption will continue at a greater pace.
Nice article but nobody’s going to prison. Nobody.
Libertarian?
The Koch brother(s) were supposedly big libertarians and nominal conservatives.
“Were” as in past tense.
Now Koch is joining up with Soro and the Dems!
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447420-koch-network-launching-4-new-pacs-in-preparation-for-2020-primary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincy_Institute_for_Responsible_Statecraft
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Hah…the funniest shit that I’ve heard in a while. Oh well I’m patiently waiting on the 20K sealed indictments and the prisoner transfer to the “New Guantanamo Bay ” prison.
below is a letter i received today from moveon.org —
my suggestion is that everyone call their congressman & let them know you’re watching–
if they’re pro trump,say thanks & help them keep a stiff spine–
if they’re iffy or anti trump,let them know you will actively work against them,and then do so–
Take a minute to thank Rep. Castor for supporting impeachment?
MoveOn Impeachment Team
To:
Oct 1 at 10:51 AM
Dear MoveOn member,
These next two weeks will be a make-or-break moment in the drive toward impeachment.
Members of Congress are back home for recess—and they’ll be listening to their constituents to hear what they think about the impeachment fight.
We need to demand that Congress assert that nobody is above the law—and we need to make sure that every Democrat who has already supported the impeachment inquiry knows that we’ll have their backs as they push forward to actually impeaching Donald Trump.
That’s why we’re asking: Can you call Representative Kathy Castor TODAY?
Here’s where to call (members are home for recess, so you can call your closest local office):
Representative Kathy Castor
Tampa, FL: 813-871-2817
Tell them you’re a constituent, thank Rep. Castor for supporting the impeachment inquiry—and then tell her you expect her to forcefully continue this fight and actually vote to impeach Donald Trump, and that you’ll be there in this fight with her.
Then click here to tell us how the call went. (This also lets us know how many folks are calling, so we can share these numbers with local and national media and Capitol Hill staff to demonstrate the fired-up constituent energy for impeachment.)
Thanks for all you do.
—David, Amy, Jenn, Reggie, and the rest of the team
P.S. MoveOn has teamed up with Indivisible and other partners on Impeach Now—actions across the country throughout the recess. Click here to see if there’s a local action near you to deliver your message to Rep. Castor in person—or volunteer to host a local action for neighbors to join together to send the message: IMPEACH NOW.
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Kathy Castor and Mama Betty can both smooch my big white butt.
remind me sometime to tell you a couple of stories about betty,you’ll love the hypocrisy–
Tampa,
I like your recon reports into the enemy camps.
At some point towards the last year of Obama’s first term I went on his web site and pretended to be a potential swing, undecided (registered independent) vote…which actually I have been since 1971.
Man, they were all over me. Personal e-mails and calls. Once they figured out exactly who I was (I gave them real data – I was mole mark) I figured out they assigned me a white handler, close to my age.
I got into lengthy conversations with the individual assigned to do the beginning of the ‘FLIP’ – build rapport.
His mission…convince me to vote for the greatest Trojan Horse in the history of the world.
My mission…find out what they were saying to get so many people to vote for Barry the Bait.
I eventually found out as much about my handler as he knew about me. He was a white liberal a decade younger than me, a sharp guy in some ways who had gotten cleaned out in the recession. A man who had gulped a picture of the Obama Kool aid. When I pressed him why he was calling me and working for Obama it actually was…wait for it…CHANGE!
Eventually, he realized I was trying to convince him who Obama really was and I was wasting his time, and the Petulant One’s resources.
It was a good run in the respect of understanding my enemy and how they swayed so many American weeping willow trees in their Marxist (technology supported) breeze. Personal phone calls with data on who you were.
Oh yea, when I get political surveys on the phone I always push the buttons as a 34 year old black woman who is a registered independent (independents are golden as THEY CAN BE SWAYED!) but I always give right of center answers. Jut to muck up the BS polls even more.
good job,you must be the mark i heard about who still has a price on his head–
mark rich,correct?
No, I’m the ‘don’t thread on me or mine short – short tempered old mark, who still wears a push dagger for a belt buckle, and besides a Sig 365 with a spare mag, carries brass knuckles in his back pocket…who smiles and laughs a lot.
No price on my head…and no halo either.
another off topic comment but the female cop in dallas who went into the wrong apt & shot the black guy last year was just convicted of murder–she faces 5-99 years–
my prediction is she wins on appeal b/c the lead investigator was questioned by the judge outside the presence of the jury & he stated that he believed that she was not guilty b/c the layout of the complex is confusing & she really believed that she was in her own apt–the judge then refused to allow him to say that to the jury–
That assumes she was not only blind but had no sense of smell either.
She murdered him. Manslaughter at the very least.
It has to be a very stiff sentence or the city will burn. This is how they control the U S justice system. Cop kills a black and they will bring down the house on them.
I, too, think she is guilty and deserves prison time
I think they are going to get all the mileage out of this one they can.
I expect a stiff sentence to give folks the illusion that justice still exists- followed by an early release.
In the 911 call all the female cop was worried about was how it impacted her “I’m fucked”. She literally offered no first aid beyond “hang in there”. Complete POS…
Civilized French speaking darkies come in scented and unscented.
It’s not the job of a lead investigator to decide the guilt of the accused. Not passing on his irrelevant commentary to the jury is no basis for an appeal – in my esteemed opinion as someone who once took the LSAT and thought about going to law school.
i’m not even as much as an atty as you iska but to you & farmer,when the lead investigator is not allowed to say if asked that he would not have recommended charges ,i suspect that that’s the basis 4 a new trial being ordered–if a new jury convicts him,it removes the taint–i agree it should be manslaughter,which is another reason 4 an appeal–
while the da will make the final call as to charging,in big city pd s i suspect that it’s rare 4 charges to be filed when experienced homicide detectives are against it–
Questioned by the judge outside the presence of the jury?
WTF, that’s cause for a mistrial, not just an appeal.
None of the Democrats he named, if they actually show up (why would they?) will testify other than “I don’t recall” or “that’s privileged” or simply “the 5th. ” The only point to an impeachment dog and pony show is an opportunity for the corrupt uniparty establishment to shake free some campaign donations from the gullible fart-sniffing serfs who still identify as Republican or Democrat while mentally masturbating over a pointless partisan exercise in a country that has already entirely lost the rule of law.
They could be granted limited, conditional immunity for anything they testify to – which would negate their Fifth Amendment right to not incriminate themselves. Theoretically you could immunize a few of the lower level ones in order to go after the big fish: Brennan and Obama.
Of course “theoretically” means not in the real world.
Yeah, I seem to remember the DOJ passing out all kinds of immunity like candy when they were investigating Hillary’s emails. Lots of damming evidence and prosecutions resulted from all that?
One problem no one is discussing is that there are REPUBLICANS who would like to get rid of President Trump as well…
With all due respect to the author, I’d wager nothing at all happens to the leftists running the coup. No hard questions, nothing. President Donald Trump has had over two years to bring the marxtards down, and has done nothing, and he is not powerless to have done so.
The author doesn’t necessarily deserve respect.
Suddfluffel is a pen name and the article is crap.
Here is another significantly different version of this article from a week ago that I found elsewhere:
1. HOW DO YOU INTRODUCE EVIDENCE??
#QAnon
#QArmy
#WWG1WGA
#MAGA
2.The House can pass articles of impeachment over the objections of the Republicans, and refer to the Senate for trial.
3. The Senate will conduct a trial. There will be a vote, and the Republicans will vote unanimously, along with a small number of Democrats, to not convict the President. Legally, it will all be over at that point.
4. However, during the trial, and this is what no one is thinking about right now, the President’s attorneys will have the right to subpoena and question ANYONE THEY WANT.. That is different than the special counsel
investigation, which was very one-sided.
So, during the impeachment trial, we will be hearing testimony from James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Glenn Simpson, Donna Brazile, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch,
Christopher Steele, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, and a whole host of other participants.
A lot of dirt will be dug up; a lot of truth will be unveiled. Finger pointing will occur. Deals will start being made, and suddenly, a lot of democrats will start being charged and going to prison.
All this, because, remember, the President’s team will now, for the first time, have the RIGHT to question all of these people under oath – and they will turn on each other. That is already starting.
5. Lastly, one more thing will happen, the Senate will not convict the President. Nothing will happen to Trump.
Most Americans are clueless about political processes, the law, and the Constitution.
Most Americans believe that being impeached results in removal from office.
They don’t understand that phase 2 is a trial in and by the Senate, where he has zero chance of conviction as Q has stated.
**Remember, the Senate is controlled by Republicans; they will determine what testimony is allowed, and EVERYTHING will be allowed, including: DNC collusion
with the Clinton campaign to fix the election in favor of Hillary, the creation of the Trump dossier, the cover up and destruction of emails that very likely included incriminating information. They will incriminate each other for lying to the FISA court, for spying and wiretapping the Trump campaign, and for colluding with foreign political actors, especially George Soros.
After the Senate declines to convict thePresident, we will have an election, and Trump will win. It will be a backlash against democrat petulance, temper tantrums, hypocrisy and dishonesty.
Even minorities will vote for Trump, because, for the first time, they will see that democrats have spent 2+ years focused on maintaining their own power, and not doing anything else.
For a minute the author of this fantasy had me..believing….
but then in thread Scrabble brought me back to earf..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I0o9JJw2tg
To be expected I suppose, that firmament is meant to bounce off of anyways.
Brayden Point signed…I’m sure you were following that story closely…
quit fagging this thread w/hockey talk–figure skating,ok,hockey,not ok–
global warming has taken away your excuse to play hockey,the ponds no longer freeze so you can play football/baseball year round like we do in fla.–
i’m turning in,i expect to wake up to some hi brow comments here,not your usual shite–
A good deal for the Bolts…He signed for a lot less than he could have made just about anywhere else..
About 4 million less than Marner…. wow! These guys must like playing in Tampa Bay…. still going to be up against the cap next year or two with Sergachev and few others. But going forward the team is looking strong… might have to make a trip down and watch some games.. It is cheaper to get on a plane and watch my Habs there than to go to Montreal and watch them play at the Bell… crazy eh!
even with the exchange..
That’s a great reply RiNS, but it seems as if T-Red is off his meds tonight.. Poor boy.. He has to answer to this every night…
I’ll admit that she is curvaceous.. seems that how he likes them..
Yep
Must be tuff though when you slip that much..
Is it any wonder that he wuz triggered by my story aboot White Bears..
He must’ve been pining for the good ole days…
triggered my ass,you wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped you in the face–
look harder,out on the ice floes–
i don’t answer to that every night,i have to answer 4 that every night.
i gotta start over & go take a beggin’er’s chip in bbga–
You are assuming rhinos have a backbone…..big mistake.
Bull crap. The rhino’s are running the show, nothing to see here, move along. McConnell proved he has the votes to counter the POTUS declaration of emergency. Deals will be made, period.
Don’t Fear Impeachment
All our crimes have come
Here, but now they’re gone
Real men don’t fear impeachment
Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain
(We can be like they are) Come on, Hillary
(Don’t fear impeachment) Baby, take my hand
(Don’t fear impeachment) We’ll be able to fly
(Don’t fear impeachment) Baby, I’m your man
La, la, la, la, la
La, la, la, la, la
Donald Trump is done
Here, but now he’s alone
Obama and Hillary
Are together in eternity (Obama and Hillary)
40,000 men and women everyday (Like Obama and Hillary)
40,000 men and women everyday (Redefine treason)
Another 40,000 coming everyday
(We can be like they are) Come on, baby
(Don’t fear impeachment) Baby, take my hand
(Don’t fear impeachment) We’ll be able to fly
(Don’t fear impeachment) Baby, I’m your man
La, la, la, la, la
La, la, la, la, la
Love of two is one
Here, but now they’re gone
Came the last night of voting
When it was clear she couldn’t go on
The door was open and the Don appeared
The ballots flew and then disappeared
The curtains flew and then he appeared
(Saying, “don’t be afraid”) Come on, Hillary
(And she had no fear) And she ran to him
(Then she started to fly) They looked backward and said goodbye
(She had become like they are) She had taken his hand
(She had become like they are) Come on, Hillary
(Don’t fear impeachment)