Patrick Moore – The Sensible Environmentalist

Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore discusses how we need to look at science and environmentalism together and not just view the sensationalism activism groups show the media. After leaving Greenpeace Moore has gone on to become what he calls a sensible environmentalist and explains how Greenpeace and other likeminded organizations have moved away from using science as a basis for their projects.

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7 Comments
Steve
Steve
October 17, 2019 8:26 am

You can come along with all the logical facts concerning climate or politics and it won’t made much difference because these don’t conform with the “agenda” being pushed by the globalists. Most here at TBP know the main stories of today are total BS. Truth and logic only nip at the edges. The majo rity are too indoctrinated to hear and understand truth and logic. Sad commentary on humans but this is what the evidence shows.
Great presentation…

CCRider
CCRider
October 17, 2019 9:19 am

That was great. Since I rejected the bullshit we were fed by paul ehrlich 50 years ago I stopped taking this sort of intimidation at face value and adopted the filter for all future scam artists that framed their message with this: if its conclusion is more loot and power to government you must reject it out of hand. Period.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
October 17, 2019 9:22 am

Nice presentation, but I’ve always recognized ‘Gaia’ for what she is….a lesser god-the daughter of Chaos.

“Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth.” Is. 40:26

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<——–==

anarchyst
anarchyst
October 17, 2019 10:52 am

If environmentalism restricted itself to truly caring for our natural resources, I would have no problem with it.

However, with the secret science and questionable funding that these environmental groups possess taints the whole barrel. It turns out that many claims that environmentalists make have no basis in fact and are not based on good, honest, scientific investigation. This is why environmental scientists have to hide their data, as it does not fit their agenda. A good example of this is the so-called global warming crap, now renamed climate change. For one, the climate is always changing. The East Anglia emails in which data was purposely falsified by climate scientists comes to mind. Not only that, the climate scientists purposely installed temperature monitoring sensors in cities, contrary to manufacturers recommendations and good scientific practices, in asphalt-covered parking lots, and other heat sink areas in order to prove their (faulty) hypothesis. This is scientific dishonesty at its worst.

It turns out that the solar system is in a cooling cycle due to decreased solar activity. There are two long-term solar cycles that reinforce themselves when in phase and cancel themselves out when out-of-phase. Look up the Maunder minimum. There are no SUVs on Mars or other planets, yet they are also experiencing the same solar variability.

Environmentalism has been the method used to impose communist principles on western society, especially in the USA.

Environmentalists are not content with promoting clean water, air and land, but are hell-bent on controlling human behavior, and yes, promoting extermination plans for much of humanity as these anointed types consider mankind to be a pestilence (except for themselves) to be reduced in population by any means necessary.

Environmentalists HATE the God-given concept of private property and have imposed government-backed and enforced land use controls on private property owners without compensation, clearly an unconstitutional taking of private property. If environmentalists want to control land use, let them purchase it themselves, not by government force. Today the only method of negating government-imposed land use restrictions is shoot, shovel, and shut up.

If environmentalists had their way, the earth’s human population would be reduced by approximately 90%, with the remainder to (be forced) to live in cities, in soviet-style high rise apartments, utilizing bicycles, buses and trains for transportation. The use of automobiles and access to pristine wilderness (rural) areas would be off-limits to us mere mortals, and would only be available for these anointed environmentalists.

The endangered species act is another abuse of environmentalism. Species are always changing, to adapt to their environments-survival if the fittest. In fact, the hoopla over the spotted owl (that placed much northwest timber land off-limits to logging) turned out to be nothing but scientific misconduct and arrogance. There are virtually identical species in other parts of the northwest.

More scientific malpractice occurred when government biologists attempted to plant lynx fur in certain areas to provide an excuse for making those areas off-limits for logging or development. Fortunately, these scientists were caught, however, no punishment was imposed.

In order to promote the false religion of “global warming” aka “climate change”, NASA “scientists” purposely installed temperature sensors in city parking lots and roads contrary to good scientific principles and practices in order to “skew” the “global warming” results.

In a nutshell, today’s environmentalism IS communism like watermelon-green on the outside and red (communist) on the inside.

It is interesting to note that communist and third-world countries have the WORST environmental conditions on the planet. Instead of the USA and other developed countries spending billions to get rid of that last half-percent of pollution, it would behoove the communist countries to improve their conditions first. Here is a question for you environmentalists:

Why is there a push for restrictive environmental regulations, but only on the developed first-world countries, and not the gross polluters such as India and China?

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  anarchyst
October 17, 2019 11:18 am

Right so here is the tactical problem……how does one practice sustainability and good stewardship of our natural resources without drifting into the carbon/climate change bullcrap? The folks who like sustainability invariably also believe all the leftist propaganda and see the issues as the same when they are easily separated in my mind. I find it very difficult working with these folks.

card802
card802
October 17, 2019 12:05 pm

Apparently the Church of Limhamn in Sweden has proclaimed Greta Thunberg as the “successor” to Jesus Christ.

So much for respect, non judgment, forgiveness, kindness……..

nkit
nkit
  card802
October 17, 2019 11:09 pm

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