The Trump Doctrine Humiliates Both Foreign Enemies and Domestic Liberals

Guest Post by Kurt Schlichter

The Trump Doctrine Humiliates Both Foreign Enemies and Domestic Liberals

This has been a really difficult time for Ben Rhodes, John Kerry, and the rest of the geniuses who zombie Neville Chamberlain recently hailed as “a flock of insufferable sissies crowded around the behind of America’s enemy, shamelessly smooching their dignity away.” Zapping Qassam Soleimani ruined an Iranian offensive that had started with such promise. When the dirtbag catspaws of the dirtbag Iranian mullahs surrounded the American embassy in Baghdad, American liberals were more excited than the old Weekly Standard’s staff would have been upon discovering that it was sharing one of its cruises with a pool boy and sexy gardener convention. Libs and their Fredocon submissives were practically salivating at the thought of fellow Americans being murdered by scuzzy foreigners and the opportunity such a tragedy would present for blaming Donald Trump. This was Trump’s Benghazi test, they chortled on social media.

Yeah, except Trump passed his test.

The Iranians had been getting uppity for a while, but then their punks killed an American contractor in a rocket attack on a U.S. base – and let’s not get distracted about whether we should still be there. They killed an American. We are there, and you don’t get a pass on murdering U.S. citizens because we may or may not have a good reason for them still being there. You get dead.

See, for too long we were asking the wrong question when tinpot dictators dared hurt Americans. We asked, “What would a gender-fluid Oppression Studies major at Yale do?” As I have observed before, the correct question is “WWJC do?” – “What would Julius Caesar do?”

Trump ordered hard hits at five Shiite militia weapon sites, and not with any warnings either. They got one of ours, we got about two dozen of theirs. Like the old joke about 1,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea, that’s a good start.

The Iranians, whose Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps is the ultimate source of most of the Shiite terror in the world, decided to respond in what they thought was a clever way: send a few thousand of their camo-clad dummies to attack the embassy and hope and pray a bunch of them got mowed down on camera. In the meantime, wave a lot of banners, burn some stuff, and pound on the reinforced glass for the press’s benefit.

But apparently, no one told the “mourners,” as the austere scholars at the endlessly useless New York Times dubbed the members of Islamic Antifa, that they were supposed to get smoked. They went home with the embassy unseized. Getting martyred en masse is not that much fun when you’re just one sucker out of dozens – heck, they may run of virgins.

See, Trump made it clear he was not playing. There would be no Benghazi II: Bagdad Boogaloo on his watch, and he acted well before 13 hours ran on the clock. Rejecting the elite’s preferred model of craven submission to every Third World cretin with a grievance and a camera, the Trump administration flew some Apache gunships over the crowd of unwashed morons, kicking off some flares, and generally sending the unequivocal message that if those SOBs had a problem, the AH-64s had a 30mm solution.

And then the administration sent in 100 Marines, about a company, on Ospreys as a quick reaction force and alerted the ready brigade at Ft. Bragg to start shutting 82nd Airborne Division paratroopers into theater.

Whatever the opposite of “stand down” is, Trump ordered that.

But there was more.

He dusted Soleimani, who thought he could just cruise through Baghdad to conspire with his militia pals to kill more Americans. This guy had already maimed or murdered hundreds of our soldiers. But he thought he was safe. He thought Donald Trump was another punk like Barack Obama.

Like Hellfire he is.

No one wants a bigger war with Iran – well, Bill Kristol and Max Boot probably do, but no one who matters does. The fact is that we have been at war with Iran since 1979. It’s just now we’re shooting back.

When a foreigner kills an American, somebody needs to die. And somebody did. The Iranians did not expect it. And this rocket-powered justice from above will focus their minds wonderfully.

Again, whether we should still be in Syria, Afghanistan and/or Iraq is a different question than whether we should turn a terrorist into goo – and one I’ve been clear on as far as my perspective. If you dare kill an American, you need to become a technicolor smear across a few dozen square meters of desert.

This could escalate, sure. Maybe a show of force will be met by force in response. But if we roll over like gimps, our weakness will absolutely draw force in response. And we are never going to get every single American out of the Middle East. We’ll always have embassies, business contacts, U.S. citizens with family and Americans who just damn well feel like going there who can be targeted.

You don’t get to hurt Americans. Ever If you do, bad things will happen.

Welcome to the Trump Doctrine.

We don’t want an escalation and we should show restraint where we can – but killing Americans must be a red line, a real one, not an Obama one. If this does escalate into a major confrontation, we need to keep some principles in mind. We need to do more than “send messages.” Pain should be our message. Any strike should have a tactical (if not strategic effect). Hitting the arms caches means they have fewer arms, and they got the message. And we focus on destroying what the decisionmakers in Tehran care about: sink some capital ships, vaporize a bunch of aircraft, flatten a refinery. It’s even better when it can support the Persian patriots in Iran who want to hang their oppressors from the lamp posts.

“Proportionality” is a sucker’s game. Our goal should be pain. Screw with America and we hurt you, mullahs. Personally. Not just the idiots who do your dirty work. You and your toys.

Oh, and we should be aiding the resistance inside Iran, because someday – 40 years after that fool Jimmy Carter allowed the country to descend into theocratic tyranny – the people of that nation will take back their freedom. In the meantime, we need to reemphasize that the days of messing with Americans with impunity are over.

So, spare a thought for Ben Rhodes, John Kerry, and the rest of the liberal saps during this difficult time. And that thought should be, “You suck.”

Liberals seem to hate this country so much because it is full of Americans. And my newest novel Collapse (along with other entries in the series, People’s Republic, Indian Country and Wildfire) look at what would happen if the left got its wish and got rid of the Americans who work, pray, like freedom and know which bathroom to use. Dorky Never Trumps call them “appalling” because the books aren’t lame – you know, like Never Trumpers are. Check them out!

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CCRider
CCRider
January 6, 2020 7:27 am

If this site goes pro war it will lose it’s soul-like this asshole has.

old white guy
old white guy
  CCRider
January 6, 2020 7:47 am

Do you think pro defence is being pro war? Do you think killing one’s enemies is pro war, if so I am all for it.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  old white guy
January 6, 2020 8:10 am

Do you think killing one’s enemies is pro war

No but Killing Israels enemies is.

John Galt
John Galt
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 8:51 am

The enemy of my enemy is my friend at least temporarily

CCRider
CCRider
  old white guy
January 6, 2020 9:07 am

Did congress declare war? I must have missed it. No, we were duped into a war on a lie (well, I wasn’t but I’ll bet you were). We have no fucking business being there-none. Trump ran on getting out of there and, like all other of his promises, he took his supports for fools. And there is no fool like an old fool (I’m occasionally one also).

ottomatik
ottomatik
  CCRider
January 6, 2020 9:39 am

Yes they did, it’s the AUMF.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  ottomatik
January 6, 2020 9:46 am

Here we go again, LOL. Congress has enacted more immoral, unconstitutional bullshit that you all embrace when it benefits you, but when it bites your piece of human refuse politico in the ass, whoa Nellie. Congress passed the PPACA and DREAM. But wait a minute, you’re on Team Red so that doesn’t count!

Enjoy your Imperial Senate. Your children will surely thank you, Jar Jar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuP2wvTAj0E

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  CCRider
January 6, 2020 9:54 am

CC: Oh get over your sanctimonious bullshit and educate yourself. The Patriot Act, the AUMF all allow for retaliation and attacking WITHOUT needing the useless congress.

I’ve been against the Patriot Act and the other ‘acts’ since the get-go but they’re here and Bush, Obama and now Trump can use them. Your precious congress voted them in and keeps on reauthorizing them.

You can whinge and whine about it all you want but where were you when Obama or Bush used said powers? Crickets.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Mygirl...maybe
January 6, 2020 9:57 am

How about where was I?!?! My friend and I nearly got our fucking asses rolled in Mister Days in Arlington the night we rolled into Iraq and booed when they livestreamed it. I’m a big dude but I can’t take on a goddamn bar with one buddy. I was friends with someone who worked for Franks and he was apparently infuriated Twiggy ordered him to do it. Go look up when he “retired”.

That’s where I was. There were a few of us who told you all how SNAFU things were and you did NOTHING. NOTHING! I was a couple thousand feet from the Pentagon when it got hit. I was fucking there, trying to get through to my father to see if he was OK and to let him know I was. Don’t tell me I was a cricket. You all think you know so much.

I have turned away more incredibly high dollar, lucrative work in order to do what is RIGHT. I make less than half what I could be. My choice and I don’t regret a bit of it until I see how morally bankrupt our leaders and their cultists are. So worrying about some contractor in Iraq who’s likely making 250k as a DBA with 10% hazard pay? Not happening!

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 10:19 am

Have we ever even heard the name of this supposedly dead American contractor? If they tell us it’s Ben Dover, we’ll know they’re not even bothering to lie well.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Iska Waran
January 6, 2020 10:22 am

Anyone crying over a dead contractor doesn’t fucking get it. Their family is taken care of for life, they were making bank (unlike our patriot men and women enlistees who get peanuts for grunt work and who have orders), and they damn well knew what they were getting themselves into.

I try not to publish a lot of personal data on myself but when I see dipshits like SAO and the Trumpeo cultists spewing utter bullshit, well I just snap sometimes. Like that Wakizashi Ninjato Shinmen or whatever. All generals are bad…yeah, how many did he directly work for? Fucking idiots are bringing out the worst in me these days.

Put it this way. Guys I worked with went to Qatar and in 5 years were millionaires. 15-20 years ago! And cultists are willing to risk global war for this?

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 10:35 am

AOC: You need to read better. My point was that the evil Patriot Act and the AUMF and all the other constitution destroying ‘acts’ were in place LONG before Trump hit the stage. I bitched and wrote letters and may as well have farted in a hat for all the good my protests did. I vehemently protested AGAINST the attack on Iraq and all this happened almost twenty years ago. I knew then and I know now how things are going to play out and there’s jack shit nada I can do about it. The anti-Trumpers here ignore history and focus on silliness.

There is a war happening on our Southern Border. A war with 50 cals and explosives and grenades and not one person here pays any attention to that. Nope, lets fret over what is essentially business as usual in the Middle East and ignore how that southern border war will soon be here…hell it’s ALREADY here.

My Point here is the feigned outrage against Trump, where were the bitchers when the fucking acts were passed in the first place? Also, Pelosi, Shumer and the rest of the evil cabal were and are 100% behind the passage of these ‘acts’ and no one here bitches about them. Hypocrisy in spades. Pelosi defends MS 13, she’s all for machete murdering savages….then she’s all for those open borders with country that’s a war zone filled with butchers…

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Mygirl...maybe
January 6, 2020 10:46 am

Look, I love you and your posts and rarely agree with you. But you are intelligent and hold my ass to the fire. I appreciate you and Charlie a lot.

That being said and just to be clear: Do I cross you as someone who is ignorant of what’s going on in terms of geopolitics and Washington machinations? Do I cross you as someone who is a virtue-signaling skirt with faux outrage?

I wear my heart on my sleeve, much to the chagrin of many. I would have taken a bullet for GEN Washington, but I am ashamed at what DC is now. I want the band-aid ripped off ASAP so we at least have a chance of something better within my children’s lifetime. Voting won’t cut it unless it’s to elect a Tulsi who won’t get us nuked but who will unwittingly collapse us via domestic policy. We have got to pull our hard-earned income out of the system by making less. I don’t see any other way around it.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 12:10 pm

AOC: If we all agreed then what a boring world it would be. Frankly, if things continue following the current trajectory then we are all screwed. I truly feel and share your pain and frustration. Then I remember something about fighting God with short arms. Man proposes, God disposes.

I do what I can, I prep, I starve the beast as much as is possible and I show small resistances whenever possible. I don’t control the world, I didn’t make it and I have to live with the consequences of other people’s stupid actions. It sucks.

I vent my frustrations here, like a lot of people do, and I understand where almost all of us are coming from. I have far greater concerns about the illegal invasion and what that portends than I do about the Middle East at this time. I also know that while people suggest not voting because of disappointments, same boss etc. stuff, I look to Virginia. What is happening there is a direct result of not voting, letting illegals vote, voter fraud and democrats getting in office. My point when I ‘defend’ Trump isn’t that I’m defending the man, I’m hoping against hope that more democrats don’t get in office. When the dems gain power is when the real shit show commences.
Peace brother, I know how you feel and I never, ever think of you as ignorant or stupid, quite the contrary….

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Mygirl...maybe
January 6, 2020 12:22 pm

You’re a strong, good woman. I am heartbroken over Virginia, more than you can imagine. It got overrun from the North and the rest is history.

You’re right, we can only control ourselves. But it’d be awfully nice if those in power would stop pissing off even more people that intend to pick meat off our bones when SHTF.

Boris Badinov
Boris Badinov
  Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 10:23 pm

I confess that I may have misunderstood you initially and down-voted several of your posts as a reflex action.

I still may disagree with some of your positions, but reading further down the thread, I have come to respect your thoughtful arguments and avoidance of personal attacks. This is what grownup debate is about. Thank you Sir, and I will always differentiate between AOC (you), and the congresswoman neigh bartender. I do appreciate honest and non=personal debate.

Boris Badinov
Boris Badinov
  Mygirl...maybe
January 6, 2020 10:09 pm

I agree that the border situation is a more immediate concern, however, I believe that reversing the appeasement tact of the previous administration is also important. Preferably in the form of “You f*ck with the bull, you get the horn”. Not advocating a full-blown war, but serious consequences for sticking your thumb in our eye. A red line now MEANS a red line.

And as a Virginian, I agree that the situation here is appalling. The state government, elected by a few densely populated urban areas (as opposed by over 90% of the geographical state), have decided that they have a mandate to deprive Virginians of their constitutional rights. Over 90% of Va localities and counties have given notice that they will not comply with new restrictions to our 2A rights. If Gov “Coon-man” thinks that 18 “Regulators” can confiscate all of the ARs in the state, he is as stupid as AOC (the congresswoman neigh bartender). I can tell you with certainty that gun owners in my county will NOT comply. I hope it does not come to bloodshed, but this is OUR red line.

I commend your respectful back-and-forth with the NOT congresswoman AOC here. That’s how it’s done properly.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Boris Badinov
January 6, 2020 10:49 pm

Most of my family is still in VA. I can’t convince them to leave. I still had to go with my gut and relocate my wife and kids to a locale that was culturally similar to 1980s Fauquier and Prince William Counties.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 2:10 pm

Thanks, Buddy, I feel the same way. We have lots of smart people and even a few smart but misguided folks posting here…then we have lilliputians (SAO immediately comes to mind).

VH is the bully in the bar who thinks the one who yells the loudest is the one who is in control….sorry dude, it is the quiet ones who are bladed up in posture you really need to watch….

Iran is just the appetizer for the main event whether that is WWIII with China/Russia and Iran playing Italy remains to be seen….or whether we start slaughtering each other here at home (VA metastasizes) or BOTH!

The SHTF is all over the air circulation device….not much we can really do but hunker down and go with the wave.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Martel's Hammer
January 6, 2020 3:16 pm

VH is the bully in the bar who thinks the one who yells the loudest is the one who is in control

You’re the one in the bar that ran his mouth and ended up on the floor. If you didn’t start no shit in the bar, there wouldn’t have been no shit in the bar. Maybe you should stay home in mommys basement where your safe and drink.

You the armchair neocon chickenhawk that refuse to go fight for what he believes in. Get signed up at the recruiting station or STFU. Whats the matter, you got bone spurs too? It’s more like you probably have pussy blisters.

Join up or shut up puss boy.
https://m.goarmy.com/locate-a-recruiter.m.html

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 5:18 pm

Thanks for being you! You go, girl! Do you know how many internet muscles morons such as yourself have essentially written the same comment,…” you are a pussy, join the military”….wow….come on you can be more original than that…..

Nice attempt to claim victory, I am going to have to put you into the lilliputian bucket with SAO….you are better than that.

You might want to take a step back and think a little bit. If you want folks to take your seriously it helps to participate in a conversation….which by definition is not just reiterating the same old talking points.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Martel's Hammer
January 6, 2020 7:14 pm

You are the one calling for war, Chickenhawk. Not me. If so then you are the one that needs to walk the talk. But you cant do it, you cant do anything except bitch and complain about people who advocate US non-intervention policies. If you truly were who you say you are, then you should lead by example, instead of being the internet pussy that you are.

Here’s the deal asshole. I am willing to come to Montana myself, beat the shit out of you until semi-conscience, place your lifeless carcass in the trunk and drive you to the nearest military recruiting station to sign you up because you are too much of a coward to do so yourself.

Or you can meet me in person at the recruiting station and do your patriotic duty which makes you have some actual skin in the game besides internet tough talk. Which is it going to be armchair neocon, the real participation or the internet Rambo talk? The decision is yours now. The ball is in your court. Here again is your contact info., I’ve spoke with them and told them of your neocon aspirations. They’re anxiously waiting for you, chicken hawk. Join the army, be all you can be, or continue as a paid troll in mommy’s basement.

https://m.goarmy.com/locate-a-recruiter.m.html

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 8:32 pm

Vote harder don’t waste your time on him. He’s a paid troll.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 8:22 pm

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M G
M G
  Mygirl...maybe
January 6, 2020 11:20 am

Mygirl, why not put together an article and try to make your point in less than 1500 words. Three images, minimum and maps count but charts do not.

Then, if you send it to Admin, I bet he will post it. If he’s too busy to get to the enormous pile of email that comes his way from all these better writing botz Mary Christine attracted to the place, I’ll submit it for you directly. (see how I subtly blamed her for what I obviousy did?*)

*I copied a link to an academic essay writing site to get an example to work with and pasted it here and I admit it I brought the writing bot buggers but I really think EC attracted the viagra peddling pests, don’t you?

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  M G
January 6, 2020 11:58 am

MG:I find it amusing that you,of all people, are setting limits on the number of words for a post, ditto photos and charts. There is irony here and I mean that good naturedly and with a sense of humor.

I take your point however, and, no thanks, my purpose in life isn’t writing articles.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Mygirl...maybe
January 6, 2020 12:05 pm

Your purpose in life is promoting bullshit neocon wars that your too chicken shit yourself to engage in just like your gay transexual butthole surfing friend Martell.

Go sign up now internet asshole!
https://recruiting.army.mil/5thbde/4ebn/

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 12:32 pm

Vote Harder: you poor little butthurt baby, I’m sorry I don’t agree with you and call you on your shit. Please,there’s more to life than bashing Trump and imagining that I’m in cahoots with someone I’ve never met.

Now, let us grow up a bit. There’s a lovely man who is suffering terribly and immediately, his wife is dying and he’s in great pain. That man is far more important to the overall scheme of things than flailing away hurling insults at one another. In fact, his pain and his reality have brought me up short.
I daresay life is short, I have offended you, I am sorry. There is more that is important than my beliefs vs. yours. Go in peace, I shall.

CCRider
CCRider
  Mygirl...maybe
January 6, 2020 10:51 am

Hey MyGirl-I’ve been an Anarcho Capitalist for 40 years. Look it up you dumb cunt.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  CCRider
January 6, 2020 11:42 am

CC, you stupid prick, then act or write intelligently and quit whining like a little bitch. Congress indeed. Pull your head out of your ass and smell the patriot act and then take a good sniff at Pelosi, et al. and then get back to whining about how Trump jilted you.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  CCRider
January 6, 2020 2:04 pm

You are not a real anarcho-capitalist….I am the real Anarcho-Capitalist! I want to peel back the Federal Government to only those positions listed in the Constitution and repeal that pesky 13th Amendment among others……But since that is not happening anytime soon…..well…..WTF do we do?

CCRider
CCRider
  Martel's Hammer
January 6, 2020 2:44 pm

Oooh how edgy.

First, stop voting.

The constitution has failed miserably. It was to be a device used to restrict the size of government. Do you see any sign of that? I don’t want any government. None. Zero.

piearesquared
piearesquared
  CCRider
January 6, 2020 4:09 pm

You are right that the constitution has failed miserably. I want to puke when I hear people on the right say “we need to get back to the constitution”. The constitution is what allowed us to get to where we are now in the first place. But I’m not sure that getting rid of government entirely would be a good idea, and even if it was a good idea it will never happen anyway. So the best we can do is strive to get the smallest government possible. As for the federal government, that means going back to something similar to the Articles of Confederation. Basically a mutual defense agreement and not much else. Of course most states have bloated overbearing governments themselves that need to be reduced, but it will be much easier to solve that problem when we don’t have the federal government compounding the problem of big government.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  piearesquared
January 6, 2020 5:02 pm

Indeed! I haven’t totally thought through the single currency conundrum if we tailored the AoC. We’d need it and we’d probably have to grin and bear consolidating the statewide debts again. We’d also need another interstate free trade agreement like the Constitution defines. A mutual defense treaty would be necessary because we’d end up like competing Houses of Medici.

I don’t want another government we share with any state above Virginia or west of Missouri though. Let the Anglophile Federalists do whatever the fuck they want. They’ve been working to sink this country all the way through Trumpeo. The Hudson could swallow NYC and the world would breathe a collective sigh of relief.

CCRider
CCRider
  Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 5:51 pm

It dawns on me that the Articles of Confederation were usurped in a coup engineered by Hamilton and other agents of the crown in favor of a constitution that could be subverted. It was taught that the Federalists just had to bring ‘order’ by destroying the Articles. Now we know what they meant by ‘order’. I think some form of AoC need to be rethought.

CCRider
CCRider
  piearesquared
January 6, 2020 5:44 pm

Check out Hans Herman Hoppe. He proposes a society based entirely on voluntary exchange. He calls it a Private Law Society. Here’s a taste:

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  CCRider
January 6, 2020 5:24 pm

OK that is a good basis for agreement, the Constitution has failed to maintain a limited government and serve as a bulwark protecting the rights of the individual against a predatory government!

How about a constitutional convention?

Unfortunately, I have come to the conclusion that none of rational/correct/right things will be done until we get through the Bugaloo period.

Politicians will go all Baghdad Bob, can-kicking and in denial until we simply collapse in a rotten stinking heap.

So my mission now is to simply survive and prime the pump on the restart.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Martel's Hammer
January 6, 2020 6:20 pm

Indeed. I gave up calling for the invocation of Article V years ago. It’s something a Caesar would have to mandate unilaterally during/after Electric Boogaloo. Really all any of us can do is play the waiting game. No dipshit in DC is going to do what’s right.

Jaz
Jaz
  Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 6:31 pm

They use the COTUS as toilet paper now, that would not change with the Convention.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Jaz
January 6, 2020 7:10 pm

No government will last forever because humans are flawed and not meant to be trusted for life. So you try and setup something which will last as long as possible. I’d make it so that a Convention is mandatory every 20 years like TJ wanted. Each generation has a fundamental right to fuck their own lives up.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Martel's Hammer
January 6, 2020 3:40 pm

You cant be an anarcho-capitalist and be an authoritarian statist at the same time, as you have made clear from all your support of the states intervention.

Brings new meaning to the term ‘cognitive dissonance’.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 5:25 pm

Shhhhh, the adults are talking. Say something interesting and relevant or keep your soup cooler shut.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  CCRider
January 6, 2020 10:13 am

I am sure you are well aware that there has not been an American Declaration of War since Dec. 8, 1941, however the US has been in conflicts and police actions non-stop since then. Armed conflict is good for business, it builds careers of generals and provides for lots of campaign cash for politicians.

Dan
Dan
  TN Patriot
January 6, 2020 10:51 am

Technically, it was June 5, 1942, but we know what you mean.

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
  TN Patriot
January 6, 2020 12:48 pm

Being a Super Power isn’t easy, or cheap.

We can fight them over there, or here…

Choose wisely.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  gatsby1219
January 6, 2020 3:55 pm

I have a better idea. Completely pull out with the declaration that 1 dead American on domestic soil with INCONTROVERTIBLE evidence that it was linked to X Muzzie Nation will equal 100 deaths of Allah’s followers. 1000+ dead Americans equals the nuking of X Muzzie Nation’s holy site.

That way it’s actually reactive like the Constitution meant, it’s ridding us of one less nuke to maintain, the fallout is over there, and we will lower the elevation perhaps enough to make it easier to drill for petrol.

At the same time, shutter the CIA and FBI and surveill every former civvie IC leader so we can ensure double agency is nil or close to it.

No more fucking around! It takes big balls and not a single person in a leadership position has them.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  CCRider
January 6, 2020 10:37 am

Congress declare war? Oh, that was in the Constitution. We don’t have that anymore and haven’t had for a long time.

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
  overthecliff
January 6, 2020 12:30 pm

Rule of law has gone out the window, as well.
When a bunch of rich hypocrites are allowed to camp in high places without meaningful repercussions or term limits, this is what happens. The America I grew up believing in years ago is dead, sliced up and parceled out for profit, and the Republic is little more than a noisy rabble of idiots fighting over what’s left.
I’m under no illusion anything will be set right anytime soon, either.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  old white guy
January 6, 2020 2:40 pm

Five years before the 9/11 attacks, Al-Qaida declared war on America!
Muslim Brotherhood DECLARES WAR on the United States!
http://rubinreports.blogspot (dot) com/2010/10/muslim-brotherhood-declares-war-on.html
http://www.jpost (dot) com/Opinion/Columnists/The-Region-The-declaration-of-war-that-went-unnoticed
http://www.wnd (dot) com/2010/10/214245/
http://hotair (dot) com/greenroom/archives/2010/10/15/shock-muslim-brotherhood-officially-declares-war-on-the-u-s-despite-obama-administrations-appeasement/
http://www.9-11commission (dot) gov/report/911Report_Ch2.htm
http://archive.adl (dot) org/terrorism_america/bin_l.html
http://www.cnn (dot) com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/02/osama.timeline/

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  CCRider
January 6, 2020 7:49 am

CC, you should know by now that just because Admin posts it does not mean he agrees with it. He always posts Schlicters stuff.

CCRider
CCRider
  Mary Christine
January 6, 2020 9:09 am

I understand. I just wish to express my view that this guy is neither anti war nor anti state and I don’t think he belongs here. But it’s Jim’s call.

Jaz
Jaz
  CCRider
January 6, 2020 10:36 am

If this site posts articles from one side (either side) I will lose interest. It’s good to hear opposing viewpoints and debate them, it keeps one from being sycophantic.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
January 6, 2020 9:44 am

Good reminder, MC.
Like to think JQ and others who have posting priviliges dump anything that’s worth pondering, to start a discussion or a debate, and then let the chips fall where they may.
Never a dull moment, eh?

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Anonymous
January 6, 2020 10:04 am

Never a dull moment for sure! 35 comments so far.

M G
M G
  Anonymous
January 6, 2020 10:13 am

Not just “dump anything” exactly but “selectively dump things worth pondering” here to see if there is interest or if, as someone suggested we try to do, people are willing to look at another viewpoint.

Surprising few people demanding we listen to their opinion will listen to anyone else’s.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  M G
January 6, 2020 10:23 am

The people on the “right” are now firmly divided about this issue. Btw, off topic, sorta. Gov Thompson joined the 22+ Repukelican Governors who have offered to accept more refugees into their states. Not only that, he doesn’t care that he’s getting a ton of negative comments about this. He says people will stick with him anyway. Sheesh, what an asshole.

niebo
niebo
  Mary Christine
January 6, 2020 10:58 am

I keep hearing that “Elections have consequences” but am amazed at how often those consequences are masked/veiled/hidden before the election, and, upon election, are revealed as “bait-and-switch”.

M G
M G
  Mary Christine
January 6, 2020 10:37 am

I wrote a really long reply that was so well written it blinked off into cyberspace never to be retrieved.

Actually, I’m hoping it finds its way back because I was really onto something good… I just know it.

Here’s the last bit I pasted in…

Theory and Reality in Public Policy Formation

Just how rational are bureaucracies when they make decisions–and what do we even mean by rational? The ideal view of bureaucracies envisions highly organized and thorough organizations that systematically evaluate a wide range of alternatives and then choose the best of these alternatives based on careful analysis. But a more realistic analysis suggests that bureaucracies often make decisions based on a much more limited range of information and analysis. In one of the earliest formulations of this view, bureaucracies make decisions by “muddling through.”

Charles Lindblom’s classic article “The Science of Muddling Through” (1959) outlined his view that the U.S. executive bureaucracy uses limited policy analysis, bounded rationality, and limited or no theory at all in formulating policy. In some ways, Lindblom and those who developed his interest in streamlined decision making in bureaucracies presaged more recent attention to the ways that individuals make very quick decisions using very little information.

https://texaspolitics.utexas.edu/archive/html/bur/features/0303_02/muddling.html

My point was heading toward the idea that the Trump Administration had certain policy planks it brought into the Executive Office, where the Cabinet is a permanent feature, but can be remodeled with the planks. The allegory, metaphor or simile works well.

As soon as an election is over the transition team starts the “seamless” merge of the government executive (actually, the shadow transition team starts as soon as the “official” candidates are identified, but the official stuff is what really matters). There is, of course, THE briefing we all suspect and know happens with TPTB but the details of that briefing never seem to leak.

Some things are really that important that NO ONE EVER TELLS.

Whether we agree on which things the government lies to us about and which ones they only deceive us about, we can agree that there are SOME things that are so deep and dark and secretive that NO ONE EVER TELLS.

We have an unelected Bureaucracy (What Montesquieu called “The State”) which is the un-moveable object against which Congress Critters hurl our blood treasure as if it is dirt. To them, it is dirt because to them, we are all dirt.

What if, and I talked with Popeye Doyle about this and he says it is plausible, what if the opium epidemic is the perfect way to transition the underclass from prescription painkillers to heroin grown in Theater. I saw a military film explaining WHY the troops are guarding poppy fields.

You see? It was established during the Obama Administration that US troops would help the Afghan people rebuild their communities and that included helping them set up and protect their farms. Now, they are teaching them about growing FOOD and raising animals, but it is much more profitable to grow poppies, so the people choose to grow poppies.

All our soldiers can do, in this documentary I watched… made in 2014/15…was GUARD the Poppy fields and continue to try to convince the populace to grow food.

They were not authorized to destroy the crops. It was bizarro world and the guys standing there guarding knew it.

Incrementalism is a bullshit government methodology. If a policy is WRONG, it is WRONG.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  M G
January 6, 2020 11:08 am

Your best post I have read. Good one.

M G
M G
  Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 11:35 am

Is it worth a real “posting?” I am not wanting to be distracted from the Bodice Ripper business. You may think it is trite, but here’s a mind boggling statistic which would cause anyone’s pecker to stand up and take notice of Women’s Fiction during the 1970s.

It was a dime novel industry comprising about 10% of the market in the 1960s, dwindling due to television sales.

After the release of a single novel (and when I name it half the women will remember and whisper his name) in 1972? Haha… Perhaps someone else will let slip the cat, but not I!

Well, that single book’s success inspired an industry basically selling soft-core porn to your daughters without you realizing it and before the end of the decade, Women’s Historical Fiction (as it was “rebranded” to co-opt the feminists) comprised more than 40% of the publishing industry.

That is how you teach a whole generation of girls to become sluts.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  M G
January 6, 2020 11:46 am

There’s a lot I think is worth a separate post but I am so disgusted with everything lately that I am the WRONG person to ask. 🙂 I wish Spring were closer because I’d go on another self-imposed exile from TBP.

subwo
subwo
  M G
January 6, 2020 9:24 pm

Mandingo?

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  CCRider
January 6, 2020 8:00 am

Isn’t it strange that the people here voted for Trump based on his campaign promises. I know I did. When he deviates 180 from his campaign promises, like foreign policy, they still support him. Trump is a chameleon, he is a change artist. When Trump changes, they change with him. This cannot be attributed to anything but leader worship. He’s like their Jim Jones.

What does a person stand for if they don’t personally stand for anything? They only stand for another person. That means that person can do anything and they will stand for that person. If you were to ask these Trump supporters what their favorite color is, they would say, “wait I got to call Trump and find out”. It’s like they have NO independent thought or belief of their own. They are co-dependent on their leader. This is what defines a cult.

This is what statism produces. We’ve seen it with Clinton, Bush, Obama and now Trump. Statism is a cult. They are unwittingly participating in a cult that is shrewdly imposed upon them without them even knowing it.

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Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 9:11 am

are you prepared for the loss of the American empire and the significant consequences thereof domestically?

You’re a neocon idiot now. You voted for not being a neocon, and now that you’re orange messiah changed from not being a neocon to being one, you changed with him to be a neocon. The US is not supposed to be a fucking empire. Your use of the word empire and embracing such shows that your a scumbag warmongering asshole just like the Clinton’s, Obama and now 180 change artist Trump. If Trump changes you change with him. You have no independent beliefs. You are nothing but an authoritarian statist who walks around following a leader because you have no brain of your own.

If Trump were to come out tomorrow and declare that he was pro-choice, you would immediately change from pro-life to pro-choice. If Trump were to come out tomorrow and declare he was in favor of repealing the second amendment, you would change your SA views immediately to reflect his. You fucking stand for nothing. You’re a fucking worm.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 10:02 am

The US is an empire, has been and will remain for who knows for how long. What fantasy world do you want to make a reality? Trump disappointed you? Crybaby, they ALL do. You sound like a child, that’s not fair, Trump’s not perfect, he’s not following my script and he’s a big meanie.
Dear God, grow up. Get a grip on reality. I NEVER looked at Trump as anything beyond not Hillary and thank God for that. You think the Shit going on in Virginia would’ve happened had republicans been elected? Don’t lie, you know the dems are gun grabbing commies and a Hillary would turn this country into a totalitarian shithole faster than you can whine and carry on about how Trump jilted/disappointed you.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Mygirl...maybe
January 6, 2020 10:36 am

You sound like a child, that’s not fair, Trump’s not perfect, he’s not following my script and he’s a big meanie.

You’re an immature idiot. First off asshole, it’s not my script that is not being followed, it’s Trumps own script that’s not being followed. Trump has done a complete 180 on most of his campaign promises.

Don’t lie, you know the dems are gun grabbing commies and a Hillary would turn this country into a totalitarian shithole faster than you can whine and carry on about how Trump jilted/disappointed you.

This cock breath in chief is at this point no different than a democrat. He is full blown neocon. His son in law and daughter are his advisors and are so liberal they make AOC and Hillary blush. So don’t give me that shit Trump is different. He is the same.

I also noticed that you follow martell around like a little puppy dog. Looks like you and him are making a lame attempt to tag team anyone that exposes the fake narratives put out by you two communist.

You have said in other post that you are in Texas. You are in Texas right? I took the liberty to contact the nearest Army recruiting station in your area to inform them that you were passionate about calling for war with Iran and Iraq. They told me that they are very interested in interviewing you and signing you up. They informed me that neocons are easily conned and you would be placed on the front line of combat because of your stupidity. They are waiting anxiously for you. So give them a call, go down and get signed up right away. Put your actions where your mouth is. Put your big boy pants on. The opportunity is there, all you got to do is seize upon it.

https://recruiting.army.mil/5thbde/4ebn/

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 11:48 am

Please, where is your ire at the current inhabitants of the congress? Who passed the patriot act? Unanimously? All you have is bash Trump and nary a mention of how he can do what he can do because of the same people in congress. . Anyone who asks you to think beyond Trump bashing is automatically a neo con. Your world view is very, very small and your grasp of history even smaller than that.
You write and act like a child…grow up, reality isn’t pleasant but it beats living in constant anger and denial because the world doesn’t suit you.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Mygirl...maybe
January 6, 2020 12:10 pm

You’re a dumb shit. First off congress had no say in this quagmire. If the Patriot act is to blame, then why is neocon Trump using it to his benefit to be exactly like the neocons who wrote it and passed it?

Go get signed up if you feel so strongly supportive of your orange cult leaders neocon ambitions. Do it now pussy. Dont sit on the internet arguing with others about the glories of war. Is it a spectator sport for you? Go get signed up. Lead by example, not your fucking mouth and keyboard. What’s the matter pussy, you got bone spurs too?

https://recruiting.army.mil/5thbde/4ebn/

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 12:42 pm

You are a child and a rather stupid one at that….your mind is closed, the space it occupies is rather small and hoping that it could grow up and become capable of intelligent discourse is a waste of time. Begone wastrel, you waste time, energy and space and any attempts to reason with you are the same as attempting to reason with a two year old.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 10:46 am

What do we do when we leave the ME? You are calling names and not answering Hammers question.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  overthecliff
January 6, 2020 11:14 am

He and the other Trump bashers can’t answer that….so they won’t. I would like to stop riding the tiger….just not sure how best to do so without losing our current standard of living and security….

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Martel's Hammer
January 6, 2020 11:17 am

We must lose our current standard of living, Charlie! Doing what is right is never easy. Violence is not the solution and that goes for all of us. So what are we left with? Starving ourselves a little bit at a time for the ultimate betterment of our children.

Yes, if we immediately cut and run (well logistics takes months both ways), it will leave a huge power vacuum over there due to the mess we created. But unlike the gambling addict who keeps doubling down, we’ve got to go to Gamblers Anonymous and admit we have a long, painful road to hoe. It’s only going to get more painful the further we push it out. And it is both the moral and the Christian thing to do.

I keep thinking to myself what Christ would have done if He had said fuck this, I’m dropping the mic.

piearesquared
piearesquared
  Martel's Hammer
January 6, 2020 3:12 pm

It’s real easy. Load up the troops and equipment on planes and ships and bring them home. Stop sending money to Israel. The Middle East has been fighting with each other for thousands of years. They are never going to stop. It is not our job to police them and waste our money and troops’ lives doing it.

Are you willing to enlist to fight over there, or are you just another chickenhawk like most of the Trump supporters?

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  overthecliff
January 6, 2020 11:29 am

I’ve answered his question before. He does not aknowlege the answer because it’s not the answer he wants to hear. So the question is;
What do we do when we leave the ME?

You go and mind your own fucking business on your own fucking soil and don’t be a parasite to the rest of the planet.

I’ve said this same thing in other words before to this George Bush wannabe. He does not accept the truth because the truth hurts.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 11:12 am

Great take your best shot at the insult game, I have the skin of a Rhino (not RINO)….

I do note that you did not provide any response to the question: We are an Empire, the loss thereof by pulling out of the ME and losing the PetroDollar will have significant QOL domestic impacts….you good with that? You good with China become the leading world power?

Despite our various failings, we don’t have 2m people in concentration camps, we don’t torture Christians and other dissidents and we don’t have mobile abortion vans enforcing a one-child policy.

Do you really think you would be better off in a Chinese dominated world?

So grow the fuck up and let’s hear your plan to get off this tiger we have been riding since WWII….without getting eaten!

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Martel's Hammer
January 6, 2020 11:56 am

Some of us can’t stay on the internet all day. We have work to do and families to raise, cattle to herd, farms to take care of. We’re not paid to troll the internet all day by Rothchild agents for Trump and Soros like you and your puppy dog Mygirl that follows you everywhere. An obvious coalition of trolls.

We are an Empire, the loss thereof by pulling out of the ME and losing the PetroDollar will have significant QOL domestic impacts….you good with that?

Yes, no one nation should have a monopoly on money. That’s not free markets. If the self-proclaimed champions of free markets can’t handle other nations competing with their currencies, then it is the opposite of free markets. The petro-dollar was instituted because Nixon took us off of the gold standard at the same time. He took us off the gold standard and put us on an oil standard. Now is just fiat dollars being printed, running huge deficits and debts. This is whats funding the wars to start with. Read the history of the petrodollar.

You good with China become the leading world power?

China is fast becoming a world power without regard to the US presence in the ME. No one should have a worldwide monopoly on power either. So you think it has to be China or the US and there are no other choices. Let sovereign nations be sovereign. How are nations today sovereign with the US as the leading power? They’re not. Again, the US should mind it’s own business.

At the UN Trump gave a speech. He told all the other nations to respect our sovereignty.

“That is why America will always choose independence and cooperation over global governance, control, and domination,” Trump said. “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The United States will not tell you how to live or work or worship. We only ask that you honor our sovereignty in return.” Donald Trump at UN

Now that Iraq’s parliament has voted to expel the US, Trump has came up with a convenient excuse to forcefully stay saying he’s not leaving until they pay for the airbase that was put there from an initial false flag invasion based on lies to begin with. FUCKING ORANGE LYING COCKSUCKER.

Now that I have answered your questions for the second time are you going to say later that I didn’t answer them?

So grow the fuck up and let’s hear your plan to get off this tiger we have been riding since WWII….without getting eaten!

I have taken the liberty to do for you what I just did for Mygirl. You said you were in Montana right? I think in past postings you said you were in Montana. So what I did was I contacted the Army recruiting station and I told them about you and how passionate you were about calling for war and that you were a Satan loving neocon. They said with glee and joy that they wanted to speak with you right away. So I’m posting their contact information for you here. Give them a call, go down and sign up. Don’t waste all your energy arguing with people here because they see the fraud and evil behind the senseless wars and you’re too stupid to see it. Get your god damn ass down to the recruiting station now you internet fucking pussy. Don’t talk the talk anymore. Walk the talk. Put you big boy pants on now Rambo and get on the front line downrange, PUSSY.

CONTACT INFO
Phone: 406.586.8571

CCRider
CCRider
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 9:20 am

I don’t buy your assumptions. Potential tipping points like this often follow with a chain of events no one could have imagined. No one foresaw what would happen after the archduke was killed in 1914. Everyone thought the Pacific rim countries would turn communist in 1970 if we pulled out of Vietnam-they, in fact turned (quasi) capitalist. I agree with David Stockman that China is a red ponzi scheme destined to fail. Finally your comments are predicated on big shots on high mastermining world events. I don’t want any masters and I’ll take what comes when we finally rid ourselves of them.

Jaz
Jaz
  CCRider
January 6, 2020 10:52 am

I agree, there is always the X factor. “The best laid plans of mice and men fail”.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 10:16 am

I voted for Trump for 2 reasons:
1. He was not Hi LIAR y
2. He was saying things I have been screaming at my TV for more than a decade.

Jaz
Jaz
  TN Patriot
January 6, 2020 10:54 am

Trump was smart enough to tap into reason #2. I don’t think he really subscribes to it though.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 10:21 am

If China wants to start policing the rats’ nest that is the Middle East we should let them. In fact, we should beg them to do it.

Jaz
Jaz
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 11:25 am

Maybe you shoot the tiger in the back of the head and take your chances into unknown territory. At some point that becomes the better option than just being killed by a thousand cuts.

gman
gman
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 11:57 am

“If you were to ask these Trump supporters what their favorite color is, they would say, “wait I got to call Trump and find out”. It’s like they have NO independent thought or belief of their own. They are co-dependent on their leader. This is what defines a cult.”

all typical leftist tropes. you’re not even trying to disguise them. you’re a leftist operative, aren’t you? here to persuade some on the right to not vote, while your compatriots stuff fake ballots harder.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  gman
January 6, 2020 12:30 pm

Left vs. right is the stupidest argument to make. It really has nothing to do with left vs. right except that they are two wings of the same bird. Shows your retarded colors. Show me where I said to not vote, cocksucker.

gman
gman
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 12:51 pm

“left vs. right except that they are two wings of the same bird”

also a leftist trope – “you’re no better than we are!” – one that they push only when they are suffering setbacks on all political fronts and never in any other circumstance. but notice how no-one in california says that left and right are the same.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  gman
January 6, 2020 1:41 pm

The left does not push the fact that there is very little difference between the two parties. That’s the new bullshit lie that assholes like you come out with when the people who are awake call you out on the phony left vs. right paradigm. I voted for Trump because he seemed more like a libertarian than a typical republican, which there are really no republicans, there is only RINOS now, which further proves that there is very little difference between red team and blue team. Why do you think the acronym RINO was invented for? It’s a uniparty, wake the shit up man. Get yourself educated.

gman
gman
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 3:50 pm

“the people who are awake”

yet another leftist trope. you guys really don’t hear yourselves, do you? you just think that’s how the people talk.

vote harder dude. some of those southern counties are voting only 120% democrat, you can get it up to 140% easy.

piearesquared
piearesquared
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 2:52 pm

Vote Harder, you have hit the nail on the head. I also voted for Trump based on his campaign promises, but I gave up on him well over a year ago. Obviously I know that most politician lie to get elected, but Trump wasn’t a politician, and seemed sincere, so I thought he might be telling the truth. Actually, he might have intended to keep his campaign promises then, but regardless of whether he intended to keep them then he certainly has no intention of keeping them now. He is completely controlled by the Deep State and Zionists through either threats or blackmail.

But as you say, many of the Trumptards will continue to support Trump no matter what he does, and no matter how many of his campaign promises he breaks. Those are the true cult people. They need to have a leader, and will worship him no matter what he does. For the Trump worshipers, the main requirement is that the leader have an “R” after his name, and they are mostly the same ones who also worshiped Bush Jr, easily one of the worst presidents we have ever had. Of course, many Democrats are just as bad. They will worship any politician that has a “D” after their name.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 3:01 pm

When you climb off you ask the 100 million gun owners to keep a bead on the tiger until it slinks off.

Would losing the oil in the middle east cause us problems, yup, but we’ve got all kinds of problems with the oil, including endless wars and occupations and blood and treasure. Not very effective if you ask me.

Withdrawing from the rest of the world if only militarily would earn us one hell of a lot of good will with the rest of the world. Maybe if we invested the same energy in protecting our own borders the way we do foreign military bases and demilitarized zones between former combatants, who knows what might happen.

Jaz
Jaz
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 6, 2020 3:47 pm

HF, Maybe this whole deal will nudge people in that direction; it’s a process.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  CCRider
January 6, 2020 10:34 am

Real-politik is not nice but it is real. Exercise of power is the only way to deal with mohammedans. War is the permanent condition of mankind. Those who don’t realize that are at the mercy of those who understand that.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  overthecliff
January 6, 2020 12:32 pm

Good. Get out there and exercise that power GI Joey. They need dumb shits like you who are too stupid to think for themselves. Or do you have bone spurs too, so you sit and tell others all day about the virtues of war?

https://m.goarmy.com/locate-a-recruiter.m.html

Chip Henry
Chip Henry
  CCRider
January 7, 2020 7:33 am

You’re one who rolls over. You are the mind-set that has brought us to this point. You don’t understand that standing up to the problem with force solves the problem, not feeds the problem. Iran is a threat to Americans and Trump is a threat to the leadership of Iran. I know you don’t get that. It’s also why you suck at leadership.

Cheesesteak
Cheesesteak
January 6, 2020 7:45 am

Wow they killed a American. How many Americans have AGW killed? One death a tragedy, a thousand a statistic.

credit
credit
  Cheesesteak
January 6, 2020 8:40 am

you need to be more specific. AGW also stands for anthropogenic global warming.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Cheesesteak
January 6, 2020 8:54 am

So how many Americans can they kill? The 700 or so with IEDs in Iraq OK for you? Really I want to know, how many Americans can Iran or any other country kill before we do something about it?

The only decent response would be zero, and of course, we should have overthrown our own government for 9/11…..lesson learned.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Martel's Hammer
January 6, 2020 9:09 am

Charlie, do you REALLY think our govt. is interested in protecting us? Really?!? If they were, why are we still in the ME in what, 7 different wars? It’s common fucking sense. If you want to minimize the risk of getting bitten by a Rottie, don’t duck-walk every day past the Rottie!

Anyone, American or not, that plays in the sandbox is not innocent. They’re retarded. Just as retarded as a dipshit taking Instagrams hanging off cliffs.

The MOST you could say about Washington is that it’s interested in protecting its purse strings and power. It could give two shits about you and me, unless it would give one of them some victimlike sandwich board to parade around in front of the cameras.

Jaz
Jaz
  Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 10:56 am

Now, if we could just get our military people to agree with you.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Jaz
January 6, 2020 11:00 am

Most (not all, but most) of the military I know are not in support of this bullshit. Well, except maybe the LOGCAP guys who sit behind their desks and shuffle paper. It’s easy for people to place blame on “The Army” but if they aren’t privy to personal conversations, it’s nothing more than speculation at best.

The problem IMHO really began when DC started outsourcing common military MOSes to contractors. Like KBR and mess halls. Contractors are in it for one thing and money and war are horrible bedfellows.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Martel's Hammer
January 6, 2020 10:29 am

After toppling their elected government in ‘53 and installing the Shah (and his Savak), after we backed Saddam in the Iran-Iraq war (and sold him chemical weapons) and after we shot one of their airliners out of the sky, we invade the country next to Iran for no real reason. We should be surprised that Iran supports the insurgency that targeted our soldiers? We start a war and expect that no one will shoot back? It’s not like Iran killed civilians on our soil. No – that would be Saudi Arabia – our “ally”. In fact virtually all Americans killed by terrorists have been killed by Sunnis. Our response is to side with Sunnis against Shia. Because of this bullshit:
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Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Iska Waran
January 6, 2020 10:37 am

That’s been my complaint for years. The Sunnis are the terrorists, yet we support them over the Shia? Why?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Vixen Vic
January 6, 2020 11:12 am

Near as I can tell, it’s because Israelis don’t really fear Arabs (they have contempt for them), but they fear Persians. Maybe rightfully so. Maybe it’s an IQ thing. Maybe it goes back to the Babylonian Captivities. God knows they hate Russia still.

Dan
Dan
  Vixen Vic
January 6, 2020 11:49 am

To really understand, I think you need to be part of the culture. For those of us that aren’t, all we can do is read and try to get it.

That said, my extremely limited understanding is that most of the really bad head-chopping terrorists (ISIS, al Qaeda) are Salafists which are actually a minority of Sunnis. Kind of the same way Baptists are Protestants. Most Sunnis don’t subscribe to the extreme beliefs of the Salafists and shouldn’t be lumped in with them.

In turn, the Saudis fund and proselytize Wahabism, which is a Salafist sect. I think members of al Qaeda tend to be Wahabist.

That’s my completely uneducated take. I hope I didn’t unintentionally misrepresent anything.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Iska Waran
January 6, 2020 11:19 am

Sunnis are 80% of the Islamic world…we went with the bulk of bodies not morality. The broader issue is the profligacy of the US budget which is dependent on being able to issue as much debt as we want….which once we lose the world currency status we will no longer be able to do.

Israel is convenient in a number of ways, nice to have disruptive influence and they do have some great technology….but we have dropped them like a bad habit before and will be happy to do so again……Countries don’t have permanent alliances they only have enduring interests…..

I wish it was not this way….but it is what it is at this point.

Jaz
Jaz
  Iska Waran
January 6, 2020 11:30 am

Stop making so much sense; you are scaring the kids. (Snark)

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
January 6, 2020 7:54 am

Maybe we should get the CIA trouble makers out of Iran, for a start.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
  Vixen Vic
January 6, 2020 8:49 am

Yes, I don’t agree we with Kurt that we should be supporting a revolution. Didn’t work out in Ukraine or anywhere else in South America where we’ve done it. We’ve got our own problems at home.

But make no mistake, this is not going to become all out war. Iran is surrounded. Look at the map. Unless they’ve already got nukes and are willing to use them, they are not going to do anything that will require a major US response. To do so is a sure recipe for suicide… Chip

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  SmallerGovNow
January 6, 2020 11:18 am

There was that whole archduke situation once. I hope you’re right, but it sure as hell seems like all out war might be exactly what they’re seeking. It’s not so much that escalation might get out of hand as that they’re going to ratchet it up until we’re bombing the shit out of them. The problem is that you can’t topple a government just with bombs. It didn’t work in Vietnam and it won’t work with Iran. That’s why Assad is still there and the Taliban will be running all of Afghanistan the moment we’re finally out. So we might arm some in insurgents and send in some “advisors” and then it starts all over again.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Iska Waran
January 6, 2020 11:54 am

We’re already in a hot war with them. For decades it was fought with proxies. We just amped it up. I truly hope no one thinks diplomacy is going to happen now. That ship has sailed and Iran now has no choice. Think of a sequential circuit diagram. Diplomacy was on the left and that gate is closed.

The wildcard is what Russia and China do. Russia kicked our asses in Syria and they’ll be even more vociferous in their defense of Iran. It’s no different than what we’d do (and did) if Russia were based in Nicaragua.

credit
credit
January 6, 2020 8:03 am

“and let’s not get distracted about whether we should still be there.”

that’s the stupidest fucking statement of the decade.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  credit
January 6, 2020 8:13 am

It obviously obfuscates if not outright omits ’cause and effect’ in the most delusional Orwellian doublethink fashion I’ve seen yet.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 8:22 am

The author now implies that if any original Trump voter and supporter doesn’t change with Trump in doing a complete opposite take on foreign policy, then they are a liberal now. And their cannot possibly be any conservatives that disagree with Trump’s latest foreign policy blunder. The author is a chameleon just like Trump. Just read his other “Trump is anti-war” articles that directly contradict this one. Kurt is a change artist just like his messiah Trump. When Trump changes, he changes his views to reflect Trump’s changed views. This is what a cult does to people. Kurt is a statist cult member.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/authors/kurt_schlichter/

Dan
Dan
  Vote Harder
January 6, 2020 11:57 am

TBP carried this a few days ago. Basically claiming that Trump was installed by TPTB to do exactly what you are claiming. I’ve been pondering since and am still undecided, but it’s looking like a real possibility.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Dan
January 6, 2020 12:15 pm

Something has to explain for Doofus Donnies 180 degree turn. I voted for him once, not again. If there are no other viable candidates, then I’ll sit home. That lessor of two evils is a cleverly designed trick to keep the agenda on the path of TPTB.

yahsure
yahsure
January 6, 2020 8:22 am

Does anyone remember why we are there in the first place?

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  yahsure
January 6, 2020 10:23 am

Martel nailed it when he said “Are you prepared for after the US leaves the ME for China to walk in and replace the PetroDollar with the PetroYuan”

Once the U S $ is no longer the reserve currency of the world, we are done.

Jaz
Jaz
  TN Patriot
January 6, 2020 11:32 am

Yep TN Patriot, it’s all over but the crying.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  TN Patriot
January 6, 2020 12:17 pm

How was the petrodollar in existence long before 9/11 the 2003 invasion of Iraq and was doing just fine.

It’s got nothing to do with it TN.

piearesquared
piearesquared
  TN Patriot
January 6, 2020 3:52 pm

No, “we” won’t be done, but the American Empire will be done, which will be a good thing for both us and the rest of the world. It will be rough adjusting to the loss of the U.S. dollar are the world’s reserve currency, but it is going to happen sooner or later anyway. After an initial rough reset we could, with good leadership, emerge much better off economically than we are now.

Of course, this is just an academic discussion because we are not going to leave the Middle East until the empire collapses. The readjustment will be much worse then than if we did it now.

John Galt
John Galt
January 6, 2020 8:55 am

I am never for war. However, so many here are becoming anti trump because of Iran issues lately. Well, people what do you do act like Cater, Obummer, Hillary and let a little bully mosquito continue to bite you, forever? Or do you show that stupid mosquito your force and hopefully since thats the only language they understand, is force, maybe get a clue..

Please inform all readers here what you would have done in Trumps place? Seriously because i love the comments and are very insightful. For now I agree with what trump did….it did not escalate china or Russia…..they have stayed quite and were even doing joint military drills with Iran when it happened and still crickets. They even know Iran runs its big mouth too much and took too far an action and i feel allowed trump to smack their ass.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  John Galt
January 6, 2020 9:12 am

I’ve already laid out what I would have done, many times and on many issues. My solutions will happen only after a crash and burn because no one wants to disrupt their Honey Boo Boo programming and hibachi grill dates. I’m exhausted and it won’t make a damn bit of difference with either side of the aisle. America needs to suffer the same fate that every other empire throughout history has. But I just refuse to support the addiction to guns and butter anymore. We’re a morally bankrupt, mentally deficient playground bully that doesn’t as a society see the train coming.

Jaz
Jaz
  Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 11:35 am

That’s Americans real problem: most fear change and are too fat and lazy ( at least intellectually) to rock the boat.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Jaz
January 6, 2020 11:38 am

Most HUMANS are resistant to change. We have an amygdala that programs us to flee from pain and we are inherently selfish creatures. Even in Six Sigma they outline that 60% are Settlers, 20% are Stone Agers, and 20% are Pioneers. The problem arises (ironically, given I mentioned Six Sigma) when you have an event that exceeds the 99.7 Rule. Then you get it good and hard.

I’m trying to shout from the rooftops that every year that goes by since 2008 gets worse and worse in terms of the aggregate pain we will experience. It doesn’t make a difference as you can see in this thread. So I decided to do a hell of a lot of praying and meditating and decided I needed to prepare my local community and hopefully the rest will sort itself out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/68–95–99.7_rule

Jaz
Jaz
  Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 11:51 am

The thought of change scares me too ( for a minute) then I consider the risk /reward factor and plow ahead. One of these days I may write an article on my personal story here and blow everyone’s mind.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Jaz
January 6, 2020 12:00 pm

I’ve considered the same thing but decided against it over the last couple of weeks. I want to enjoy as much time with my family as I can before 2024. When I’m needed I’ll be there but not until then.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 9:06 am

Fuck you, Kurt. I’ve defended your ass with friends and family for a while now. No more. Trump’s goose is cooked. He laid down with dogs and got fleas.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-says-us-will-not-leave-iraq-unless-billions-air-base-are-repaid

ottomatik
ottomatik
  Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 10:31 am

Sorry your pussy hurts so bad. Maybe some cream.
But make no mistake, I am thankful we have a president with balls, who’s actions will not be dictated by fearful timid pussies.
It is you that have bought into the lies, notice who your teammates are. No look at those who sound just like you. Trump has not sold out, you have. Examine all of those claiming war and civilian casualties are coming, proclaiming it with fervor, with joy. Notice how your beloved Congress critters are passing a resolution to stop Trump from further attacks if Iran retaliates.
Why?
Cuz now they love peace?
Get a grip, Iran was their new flash point, and Trump is fucking it all up. He is off script bad. Their whole Iran plan is just about toast.
And your pissed.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  ottomatik
January 6, 2020 10:35 am

Go fuck yourself with a rusty chainsaw, Jar Jar. I’ve forgotten more about geopolitics than you’ll ever know and the Constitution means ZIP to you. I’m not even going to continue this discussion given your linear, simplistic thinking.

We’re all hillbillies and meth heads in Tennessee. Stay the fuck away from us and forget you were ever our countrymen! We don’t want to associate with you!

ottomatik
ottomatik
  Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 11:04 am

Ha, awesome response! The mere thought Solimani could be a deep state asset just fries your shit out completely.
I at least will acknowledge the possibility Trump has folded.
You on the other hand are sucked in so deep you cannot even contemplate the possibility Iran is FULL of deep state operatives at the highest levels.
And your disinvite to be countrymen is noted, as I often wonder if allegiance with fearful brainwashed tools of the deep state is healthy.

M G
M G
  Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 12:13 pm

Hell, yeah.

wdg
wdg
January 6, 2020 9:25 am

Kurt Schlichter is a promoter of the Evil American Empire that is waging a war of plunder, death and destruction around the world in violation of basic humanity, the US Constitution and the Christian Just War Theory. Trump is clearly an agent of the Zionist-controlled Deep State who has betrayed true American conservatives and patriots; his actions speak much louder than the words of a sociopathic liar. I would still give Schlichter a voice so that we can all read first-hand the rantings of the deranged assuming he is not owned and controlled by the vile and sinister forces who rule over us. Sadly, there are many like Schlichter who were/are deceived by Trump, particularly in Zionist “Christian” community (You cannot be a Christian and a Zionist).

TC
TC
January 6, 2020 9:25 am

The biggest humiliation is on the people like me who voted for Trump thinking he was going to stop immigration/amnesty, end mindless wars and meddling in the middle east on behalf of Israel, “lock her up”, fix the trade deficit, work toward a balanced budget and reducing the debt, fix or at least make an effort on prescription drug, medical costs and insurance debacle (i.e. repeal and replace the curse of Obamacare), censorship of conservative voices on the internet, ending the carried interest loophole, ending rampant Democrat voter fraud, etc . He’s done nothing and in some cases the opposite on everything he ran on, except tax cuts for corporations. We got Israel First, felons out of prison and GloboHomo to the max. How anyone who voted for him still supports him is baffling. You guys are like a bunch of battered wives who keep making excuses for your abuser.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  TC
January 6, 2020 9:38 am

I think this is why I am so pissed. I’m mad for getting conned and was a fucking idiot for believing his used car salesman bullshit. No Christian can claim with a straight face that anything he and his predecessors have done is moral or justified. I’m disgusted with myself and God help them on Judgment Day.

Anyone who still supports him after all of these lies about getting us out of the ME deserves to get what’s coming. What’s upsetting to me is that there will be so many who don’t vote in this charade and who are just busy surviving hand to mouth that will also suffer.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  TC
January 6, 2020 10:27 am

I believe the reason people still support Trump is because you only have two choices come Election Day, a Republican or a Democrats. Period. And a Republican is always better than a Democrat though both suck. I don’t vote, didn’t vote in the last election, and won’t vote because I don’t support what is being done by our .gov.

piearesquared
piearesquared
  Vixen Vic
January 6, 2020 4:31 pm

No, there are more options than voting for a Democrat or a Republican. My own preference is to vote for a third party candidate. You can also write someone’s name in. Of course most people dismiss voting for a third party candidate because “third party candidates can never win”. But that is just a self-fulfilling prophesy. If everyone who is disgusted with the D & R candidates would just vote for a third party candidate instead of voting for the lesser of two evils, a lot of third party candidates would actually start winning.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  piearesquared
January 6, 2020 5:10 pm

A third-party candidate would never be “allowed” to win, no matter how many voted for them. (The Electoral College still chooses the president, regardless of numbers of votes a candidate gets anyway. The majority of electors are not bound to a certain candidate but how many choose outside of the D&R paradigm?)

Third-party candidates are not allowed in debates after Ross Perot did well enough to tank G.W.’s second term. That had to be stopped. They have to get thousands of signatures and pay a fee to even get on the ballots of all 50 states. Half the country doesn’t even know there are third-party candidates. And 1/3 of the country doesn’t know who the third-party candidates are because they watch the MSM and are never told about them.

Third parties and write-ins (if those are even counted now) don’t matter in a rigged “only 2-parties allowed” system.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 6, 2020 9:40 am

Two side questions.
One related, the other on a diff topic.
Anybody ID the American contractor by name who got killed first? Or the firm that sub contracted his expertise?

Off on a diff tangent…
Anybody determine what caliber the hero used with one head shot, from 50 ft. away, in the Tejas church FF distraction gone awry, to the dismay of the DS? when their emm kay ultra operative was dispatched?

Asking for a friend.
45? 40? 9? 357?

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Anonymous
January 6, 2020 10:27 am

I believe it was 357 Sig

ottomatik
ottomatik
  TN Patriot
January 6, 2020 11:35 am

The sig round has a flat trajectory compared to the 40 or 45. It was a helluva shot whatever it was.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Anonymous
January 6, 2020 10:35 am

The contractor’s name was Ben Dover.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
January 6, 2020 10:28 am

Trump is now doubling down on bombing cultural sites.
““They’re allowed to kill our people. They’re allowed to torture and maim our people. They’re allowed to use roadside bombs and blow up our people. And we’re not allowed to touch their cultural sites? It doesn’t work that way,” Trump said.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/iran-threatens-to-target-sites-in-america-as-soleimani-replacement-vows-revenge_3194966.html

Will Iran actually come through with hitting us here? Who knows. I do know they are royally pissed off and I don’t think they are kidding around anymore. Yeah, I feel safer now. Thanks, Trump. I wasn’t a never Trumper but I was a reluctant Trump voter.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
January 6, 2020 10:40 am

Yeah. Better think twice, before you take the fam for dinner at Al Kabob’s for a chicken schwarma wrap with a side of tabbouli and hommous.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Mary Christine
January 6, 2020 11:24 am

If any of those 52 hostages from forty years ago is still alive and opposes what Trump is doing, now would be a real good time for them to come out say “don’t use my ordeal to justify this insanity”.

Again, the fucking Sunnis killed 2,900 Americans ON OUR SOIL 18 years ago (and another 100+ in various other terror incidents since then) and that’s forgivable, but the Shia held 52 Americans hostage (and let them go) 40 years ago and we’re supposed to still be holding that grudge? Good thing the Iranians didn’t kill American civilians in an equal number to the Iranian civilians killed when we shot down their airliner.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 6, 2020 11:02 am

Then there’s this.

If Dave at X22 reports doesn’t clarify a few things, then neither will this shocker.

https://dcdirtylaundry.com/intell-shows-soleinami-was-a-protected-cia-asset/

mark
mark
  Anonymous
January 6, 2020 1:07 pm

Anonymous,

That was past intriguing.

Good find. I have to stew on it for awhile.

Thanks

ottomatik
ottomatik
  mark
January 6, 2020 1:21 pm

Several are claiming he was on the ground in Bengazi, and this was to be round 2.
I was not there, or in Iraq, it is all 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand to me, but I try and judge by the squealing, and it has been shrill…

gman
gman
  mark
January 6, 2020 4:10 pm

there you are, ot, I was hoping you could specify your earlier reference to dr. nathan abrams’ article “triple-exthnics” in the “jewish quarterly” 2004. is that “jewish quarterly review”? which quarter/month was that? does the printed version still exist? the website seems to be shut down since 2012.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  mark
January 6, 2020 5:24 pm

Mark, it’s all rumors and innuendo without incontrovertible evidence. This is why people should have eyes on Haftar. Follow the breadcrumbs. I still to this day question why the Kingdom wasn’t turned to glass.

mark
mark
  Articles of Confederation
January 6, 2020 5:49 pm

AoC,

I agree…just got back in, found the link intriguing, going to read it again then stew some more on the entire direction we are heading.

Then there is this in the pot as well….

The Destruction of Iran: Jeremiah 49

https://www.christianevidence.net/2018/06/the-destruction-of-iran-jeremiah-49.html

“Behold, I will break the bow of Elam, the chief of their might” (Jeremiah 49:35)

Jeremiah then warns that after the attack the affected populations are forced to scatter from the area. This could be the result of Iranian’s attempting to flee from an isolated nuclear disaster. Should the Bushehr nuclear reactor be struck, this becomes a very real possibility because the facility is loaded with Russian supplied fuel rods. John Bolton, former US Ambassador to the UN, said in 2010, “Israel’s got a problem, because once the fuel rods are inserted into the reactor, an attack … would almost certainly release the radiation into the atmosphere”. Several other studies conducted of the safety of the Bushehr nuclear site have concluded that an accident at the facility could result in such a disaster. The radioactive mess would cause a mass exodus of peoples in the surrounding area (a worldwide dispersion of the Iranian people just as prophesied)!

Written more than 2,600 years ago, Jeremiah may have predicted the fate of Iran’s nuclear program and today’s spiritual showdown in Iran! What are the odds of that?

gman
gman
January 6, 2020 11:34 am

“Did congress declare war?”

this was hashed out decades ago. congress declares war, but the president has full authority on his own recognizance to conduct any appropriate operations he deems necessary for the defense of the united states and its interests for up to 30 days, after which congress may weigh in. I misunderstood the action taken, I thought that the iranian general was assassinated within iran. but he wasn’t in his own country, he was in the field (in Iraq) conducting operations against american troops there and thus was a legitimate target. this was a normal combat operation and nothing to get excited about (for either “side”), president trump acted well within his scope and authority, and there is no reason to oppose him on it.

Lumpy Rutherford
Lumpy Rutherford
January 6, 2020 11:36 am

Suppose a police agency wanted to have a training exercise that was so realistic, that onlookers couldn’t tell that it was merely an exercise and not an actual event. Suppose they could pre-surround the staging area with layers of plainclothes personnel to keep well-intentioned private citizens from inadvertently interfering. If you were in a public place and a man with an AR-15 or AK-47 type rifle entered and began shooting, would you hang around to see whether the rifle had a blank adaptor on the end of the barrel? Would you watch carefully to see that spent cases were actually being ejected from the rifle–to be certain it wasn’t a movie prop like may be used for training or would you simply run for your life? If you saw a total stranger lying on the floor near the “gunman”, would you roll that person over to see their wounds and try to treat them, or run away and call for help when you got to safety outside? Suppose what you thought was blood seeping through their clothing was an exploding dye pack like used in action movies? What if the agency in question didn’t even tell the management of the public venue that they were having the training exercise? Suppose they never even told the media? Suppose you saw the “relatives’ of some of those “killed” during the training exercise on TV news and they were crying, yet their eyes had no tears in them? Suppose the agency reported the “event” as if it were real…

James Schwab
James Schwab
January 6, 2020 12:12 pm

I thought if someone died in jihad they went straight to heaven. So the Iranians should be thanking the U.S. for sending Solimani, or however his name is spelled, straight to heaven. He may have sinned if he lived longer and not made it to heaven.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
January 6, 2020 12:23 pm

“You don’t get to hurt Americans…”

ROFL

You do if you’re an illegal and it’s on our own soil, then it’s open season.

At least Kurt’s gonna get in shape, carrying all that water.

michael
michael
January 6, 2020 12:25 pm

Schlichter goes full retard.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 6, 2020 12:54 pm

“They want you divided.”

If this thread is the a gauge, I’d say Mission Accomplished.

Holey Schnikeys.

White Hats better put some proofs our there for all to see.
Probably won’t stop sides from forming and fighting, but might swell the ranks a bit larger on the side of Good vs. Evil.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Anonymous
January 6, 2020 3:03 pm

That they haven’t considered that option is telling.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Anonymous
January 6, 2020 5:29 pm

Nah. They’re more interested in playing numerology games, probably because they never got past irrational numbers. “The watch over here is pointing to 4:20 which means THC which is Tetrahydrocannabinol and one of 113 cannabinoids. 113 + 6 = 119 and reversed it’s 9/11. PROOF!” Fucking numbnuts need to get jobs.

I don’t have time for bespectacled spook games anymore. It’s nothing but grown adults sneaking in the shadows who didn’t get thrown in enough lockers in grade school.

Boris Badinov
Boris Badinov
January 6, 2020 9:21 pm

I found this site via a great conservative news aggregator Whatfinger.com
I also like
https://63red.com Both offer links to NOT FAKE news stories from many sources, as well as humorous diversions such as satire and cartoons. If you want real news that’s not filtered through the leftist MSM, then you have two good alternatives now, and you should support them so they can continue to provide REAL news. Thank you, and may you all have a blessed New Year!

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Boris Badinov
January 6, 2020 9:56 pm

That is a good site. I’ve been using it since Drudge went down the tubes. I recommend it. In fact, I think someone on here is the one that suggested it to begin with.
Don Bongino started an aggregate site as well, but I don’t like it as much as Whatfinger. Whatfinger also highlights TBP, such as Friday Fail. So another plus.
But it’s good that you brought it back up, Boris, for those who haven’t found it yet.

SKoch
SKoch
January 7, 2020 4:02 am

Islam is autocratic fascism hiding under the guise of religion. The autocrats are butchers slavers and pedophiles.

It must be wiped of the face of the earth for humanities sake.