Authored by Charles Hugh Smith via OfTwoMinds blog,
As empty streets and shelves attest, people taking charge of risk has dire economic consequences.
How many cases of Covid-19 in your community will it take for you to decide not to frequent public places such as cafes, restaurants, theaters, concerts, etc? How many cases in your community will it take for you to decide not to take public transit, Uber/Lyft rides, etc.? How many cases in your community will it take for you to limit going to supermarkets and ask your boss to work at home?
One of the most unexamined aspect of the Covid-19 pandemic is the human psychology of risk assessment and fear. The default human response to novel threats such as the Covid-19 virus is denial and abstraction: it can’t happen here, it won’t happen to me, it’s no big deal, etc.
This careless denial of danger and urgency characterized the official response in China before the epidemic exploded and it characterizes the lackadaisical sloppiness of official response in the U.S.: few facilities have test kits, thousands of people who arrived on U.S. soil on direct flights from Wuhan have not been tested, confirmed carriers have been placed on flights with uninfected people, and the city of Costa Mesa, CA had to file a lawsuit to stop federal agencies from transferring confirmed carriers to dilapidated facilities that are incompatible with thorough quarantine protocols.
This lackadaisical sloppiness didn’t hinder the spread of the virus in China and it won’t hinder it in the U.S. That means each of us will eventually have to make our own risk assessments and decide to modify our routines and behaviors or not.
Hence the question: what’s your red line number? Do you stop going out to public places and gatherings when there’s ten confirmed cases in your community, or is your red line number 50 cases? Or is it 100?
For many people, even a handful of cases will be a tremendous shock because they were unrealistically confident that it can’t happen here. The realization that the virus is active locally and can be spread by people who don’t have any symptoms shatters the comfortable complacency and introduces a chilling reality: what was an abstraction is now real.
Human psychology is exquisitely attuned to risk once it moves from abstraction to reality. Why take a chance unless absolutely necessary? For many people, the first handful of local cases will be enough to cancel all exposure to optional public gatherings: cafes, bistros, theaters, concerts, etc.
Many others will decide to forego public transit, taxis and Uber/Lyft rides because who knows if the previous fare was an asymptomatic carrier?
If you doubt this impulse to over-reaction once abstraction gives way to reality, look at how quickly market shelves are stripped in virus-affected areas. Once we understand what rationalists might declare over-reaction is merely prudence when faced with difficult-to-assess dangers, we realize that there’s a bubble not just in the stock market and Big Tech but in complacency.
Once a consequential number of people decide to avoid public places and gatherings, streets become empty and all the businesses that depend on optional public mixing–cafes, bistros, restaurants, theaters, music venues, stadiums, etc. etc. etc.– dry up and blow away, even if officials maintain their careless denial of danger and urgency.
All the jobs in this vast service sector will suddenly be at risk, along with the survival of thousands of small businesses, many of which do not have the resources to survive weeks, much less months, of a sharp decline in business.
All the official reassurances won’t be worth a bucket of warm spit. After being assured the risk of the virus spreading in North America was “low,” the arrival of the virus will destroy trust in official assurances. People will awaken to the need to control their own risk factors themselves. And as empty streets and shelves attest, people taking charge of risk has dire economic consequences.
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I generally avoid public places anyway. ‘I love Mankind it’s just people I can’t stand. ‘ We are fortunate that we live well off the beaten trail. That does not mean that we are not without risk and we do have to go to the grocery store from time to time. My answer is not to freak out over the Coronavirus. It is being made to sound much worse than it is. It is really simply another strain of the flu. Do what you can to boost your immune system. It is of some real danger to those with compromised immune systems, the elderly and the very young. Don’t freak and go on with your lives.
Good comment but I have to reply in regards to the one statement you made:
“It is really simply another strain of the flu. ”
No – it is NOT a strain of the flu – it is a wholly separate virus.
They are both infectious respiratory illnesses but beyond some shared or similar symptoms are very different – most different and most concerning is the incubation and infectious window during asymptomatic period. The coronavirus also looks to have a higher fatality rate and r naught – and recovered can be reinfected. I would much rather catch the flu based on what I know, says a great deal to me at least that I would rather take chances with flu than with coronavirus. I say this knowing full well how bad this flu season is.
Coronavirus vs Flu
I also will add – I am more worried right now about the economic and social impacts of this. Its already affecting the company I work for, which does work for a company that pretty well is largest in this line of business that makes household goods. Their own CFO just came out and said there will likely be impacts from this virus. There will be and has already been impacts, the second and third order affects are just now starting to show
My son works for a medical data storage company… a software engineer. The company has “on campus” shelter for its rocket scientists so they can keep the data flowing.
I don’t know about medicine. They just worry about data.
But does the company stream 5G? That would be the deal breaker for me. 🙂
It’s already affecting production at a friend of mines work
Lack of Chinese electronic components is slowing and stopping production on some project lines already.
You can debate all day everyday the possibility or likelihood of us as individuals becoming seriously ill or dying from it but that’s all purely what if’s and speculation right now.
This will take time either to die out or begin popping up indescriminantly around the country. Only time and maybe months or more to know.
Facts we do know.
This is NOT the flu. Much heartier and more transmittable and at least 20x deadlier.
Right now the biggest threat to the USA is immediate supply chain and economic disruption. The world is so interconnected and reliant on a huge percentage of affordable Asian goods and that could be the real game changer.
“This will take time either to die out or begin popping up indescriminantly around the country. Only time and maybe months or more to know … This is NOT the flu. Much heartier and more transmittable and at least 20x deadlier.”
cool. so … where is it? it’s been over a month, should be seeing it popping up indiscriminately around the country now.
If only there were test kits around the country to confirm it with.
There are kits, they just don’t work.
Probably Chinese made…
“If only there were test kits”
who needs kits? there should be lots of bodies laying around by now.
You have got to be 22winfags long lost retarded brother.
“It is being made to sound much worse than it is.”
yep.
You just aren’t getting the time factor. This is a new virus. It takes time to take a foot hold and to work throughout a population statistically. It’s not going to be an overnight event. It’s a watching paint dry process. If it does in fact eventually take hold in this country the potential damage percentage wise compared to the flu could be staggering.
“It’s not going to be an overnight event.”
ok. it’s been a month and a half now, with no particular restrictions on air travel (until recently?). so where is it? it’s not much of a plague.
It’s been detected in 40 countries now. How many was it in a month ago?
“It’s been detected in 40 countries now”
doesn’t matter. what matters is the effects it has, and so far the numbers show it’s not much more than a bad flu.
LOL. People who understand this are looking at what is coming, and worrying. People that don’t understand it are looking at what is here right now, and not worrying.
The numbers show that it is far worse than the flu. The Chinese data from the the 23rd indicates about a 16% mortality rate, and a R0 of 4.8-ish, and they are lying to make things look less bad than they actually are – so it’s probably far worse than 16%.
We’re seeing community spread of this disease in a new country or two every day.
If you think this is a big nothing, you probably don’t understand it.
“People who understand this are looking at what is coming, and worrying”
more like people who want something, anything, to happen are reading more into this than is supported by the reality.
“The Chinese data from the the 23rd indicates about a 16% mortality rate, and a R0 of 4.8-ish, and they are lying to make things look less bad than they actually are – so it’s probably far worse than 16%”
well the numbers outside of china don’t show any such thing.
“well the numbers outside of china don’t show any such thing.”
This is where you don’t understand things. It’s about the rates, not the absolute numbers.
The Italian numbers from today suggest about a 12% mortality rate, with their hospitals still working, R0 about 4.2.
“this is where you don’t understand things”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_outbreak_by_country_and_territory
italy, 470 cases, 12 deaths. <.03. good grief dude.
taiwan, 31/1. japan, 172/3. hong kong, 91/2. singapore 93/0.
(yawn).
Gman.
Stop it. You’re killing my adrenaline buzz.
gman is that dude at the Nazi rally with his arms crossed. He’s a buzzkill. Hitler was like, “We gone kill lots o’ peeps!” and G-buzzkill be like, meh, yore no Stalin.
Those cases haven’t resolved yet. The number of cases doesn’t figure in the fatality rate.
The mortality rate isn’t even remotely 3%, gman. When AC says you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about, he isn’t wrong.
12/470 doesn’t give you the mortality rate.
“12/470 doesn’t give you the mortality rate”
you mean it doesn’t give you the mortality rate you’re looking for.
“When AC says you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about, he isn’t wrong.”
yeah, like the leftists who when you point out communism doesn’t work respond with “you just don’t understand!”
I’ll be posting this link again in a month or so, I expect the death rates will be similar to what the present trend is. and I’m sure I’ll be told “but they’re hiding the bodies! it’s a secret pandemic! we’re all gonna die!” whatever.
“you mean it doesn’t give you the mortality rate you’re looking for.”
No, you literally do not understand any of this at all, and are completely wrong about it on every level.
“No, you literally do not understand any of this at all, and are completely wrong about it on every level.”
ooo, that’s harsh. like I said, I’ll repost this link in about a month or so, maybe I’ll understand more in hind-sight.
Seems unlikely.
“Seems unlikely”
maybe you will understand more in hindsight.
Hopefully not but you can’t just discount it outright at this point.
Best case you’re right. Worst case you’re not or anywhere in between.
“you can’t just discount it outright”
I’m not, just pointing out that it has been hyped way too much.
And in the meantime, more than 3,000 people every year in Indonesia die from coconuts falling on their heads. There is no vaccine either. Coronavirus is almost as deadly as coconuts.
Serious – they had public service announcements on TV warning people about this when I lived there.
Coconuts, now that’s funny. How many more Mr. Speaker?
How many heads does an Indonesian have?
https://www.jp.honda-ri.com/en/author/shintaro.ono/index.html
Are you suggesting they are already artificially informing us of data which has been tampered with DIGITALLY?
I sometimes wish you would just spit it out when you are on the trail of something worthwhile. Instead, you force people like me to make bad guesses.
I had no intention of being obscure. Don’t try to read into my comments, it’s usually a cheap wink and nod to a blind horse.
“more than 3,000 people every year in Indonesia die from coconuts falling on their heads”
that is a completely awesome perspective-changer. have you a link for that?
I used to get the coronavirus quite a bit. Especially on the weekends, but then I quit drinking. No Coronas, no coronavirus.
We covered the corona and lyme jokes in early February.
Bob’s a late bloomer.
EC.
Of course our problem is that the average person no longer has the capacity to reason and understand the limited effect that this virus would have on their lives. Instead they feed off what they see on social media and hear on MSM. Therefor, the public will panic and behave irrationally. Our government will let them and will take advantage of that behavior.
My fear has never been the disease, my fear is the reaction to the disease. If this continues in its current trajectory, it will be fairly harmful to society and the economy.
Exactly, I know I’ll be ready, it’s just the others in my community that aren’t that create the problem later on.
Here’s the long and the short of it.
The natural world offers risks and rewards- there’s beauty and wonder, but there’s also death and suffering and into each life a little rain must fall. The well balanced and reasonable man takes these things into account and provides a life for himself and his family without living under a constant cloud of fear and paranoia about the negative aspects.
Governments focus almost exclusively on fear and intimidation, rules and regulations, organized violence and mass murder, abduction and imprisonment. I think it would be safe to say that the benefits and positive outcomes they offer pale in comparison to the burdens they impose. Their only saving grace is that they protect us from the threats that other countries pose, like invasions.
99% of the current hysteria surrounding comes from government sources and their lackey media, both of which appear completely unconcerned about the rest of us. All the untold hundreds of billions spent by departments.like Homeland Security, Border Enforcement and the Department of Health and Human Services have not only been completely ineffective in protecting us, they’ve actively promoted the spread of the virus and then ramp up the anxiety everyone feels about it without offering any solutions.
For those who have opted to remain part of the current paradigm, working and living in urban areas, watching the news, buying up masks and bottled water while they watch their own government continue to import vectors from the quarantine zones, you’ve decided to remain loyal to a system which does not have your best interests at heart for reasons known only to yourselves. For those who have Gone Galt, this virus poses no more nor less of a risk than cutting down a tree for firewood to warm your family. You don’t have to worry about being welded into your apartment by the government and then waiting for them to bring you food, or forced out of your home at gunpoint to possibly die in some medical facility filled with the deathly ill. You deal with issues of life and death daily, on your own terms. You decide how to stock up on the things you need long term and how to avoid the risks that come with daily life in a hostile environment and how to make peace with the inevitability of death.
You are either the master of your own ship however small it may be or you are merely a passenger on their Diamond Princess owned and operated by those who see you as little more than a consumer.
If you are reading this comment it’s probably safe to say that at this point you know that pretty much everything the government and media tell you is either a lie or a truth that serves their interests over your own. You probably also know that your life is immeasurably better when it is spent doing something productive, honest and in the service of family, friends and community rather than slaving to provide for hostile invaders, usurious lending institutions and aggressive and bureaucratic organizations fixated on power and the accumulation of capital.
This is the time we live in and these are the realities of our time.
The choice is yours.
I second, third and fourth turning your comment, HSF.
I have no idea if it is hoax or the final solution, but I know I’m standing where I plan to stand.
Hoax, will be gone in weeks.
HAHAHAHAHA…REALLY?!
Yeah, that is my call, and I am going for international travel soon, by choice.
From a financial perspective I would play letting the markets settle lower for a bit and then back the truck up. I anticipate Trump will call for massive rate cuts, and get them, and follow up late summer with massive tax cuts, a combo that will explode the economy upward just in time for the election.
This “virus” is anticipatory to this, weaponized fear to damage the economy and thereby Trump.
Is this why the “Deep Stater” at the the State Dep. sent the people back from Japan against orders and the the other Deep Stater, Rosenstein’s sister, at the CDC amped up alarm yesterday in the new conference? Bring it here, hype the danger, then what, roundups of dissidents while everyone is in self imposed quarantine and execute a coup against the Pres?
Hard to get a read on all of this. Looks like bringing it here and exacerbating the situation is in the DS playbook, but to what end? Hell, if it is as bad as all that there probably wont even be elections.
“Looks like bringing it here and exacerbating the situation is in the DS playbook, but to what end?”
I can think of better plagues, and for that matter better methods, to accomplish what they appear to want. nah, it’s just a bad flu, the response to which that the bureaucratic confucianist/communist authorities have flubbed, and that some elsewhere think they can play to their own ends but that simply doesn’t support the action they need. it’s all one big chinese fire drill. including here.
And with a handle of “gman” how apropos. So are you one of ours or one of theirs?
“are you one of ours or one of theirs”
“a handle of “gman” how apropos”
don’t forget to check your car for bugs ….
G-man (short for “government man”, plural G-men) is an American slang term for agents of the United States Government. It is especially used as a term for an agent of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation (FBI)..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-man
and you’re being monitored every step of the way.
Five hours ago I said, huh and mused you were very brave indeed. Tonight with news of a South Korean Airways flight attendant carrying the virus I’d have to say, please think again. This “flu” could make for a really crappy trip.
well, not a hoax, but the reactions to it certainly are over the top.
Yeah, that is what I meant by hoax, and assume the same for MG.
Well said. I would say that cutting down a tree poses far more risk than the virus. Especially if you are in the tree with a chainsaw… See what I did there.
Calling attention to your own joke is lame. However, you can improve the reception by adding ten or more cusswords.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU AND THANK YOU!!!
2,492 people died yesterday in the U.S. alone just from DEATH. If that doesn’t alarm you you have no heart.
Meanwhile the new CDC buzzword is “INVOLUNTARY SOCIAL DISTANCING”.
That’s modified from the sniper term “long-distance involuntary termination”.
Reach out and touch someone.
Amen.
Meanwhile in the real america. Cops scaring a little girl.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/02/25/you-just-cant-make-this-stuff-up/
I saw this when EC posted the video yesterday, then saw it on the news. What in the world did the school feel this child had done that required her arrest?
MG
I don’t know but she was quickly INVOLUNTARILY SOCIALY DISTANCED.
The six yr. old (fill in the blank)_____child was cited as having kicked and poked a couple of staff.
At Fetlife Elementary one has to expect such behaviour.
404’ed
The world has gone insane. My stepson, who lives in Oklahoma has passed the required 5 years since losing his license for DUI. He paid a thieving lawyer $1500 and ended up with the MAXIMUM time one loses one’s license for a DUI in Missouri. The lawyer probably didn’t even try.
I know the last one I hired regrets accepting my retainer. At least that is what I pray for.
We have tried to research the issue and were told by the clerk at the County Courthouse, she is not allowed to answer citizen’s questions, only FUCKING THIEVING LAWYERS. The County clerk can only talk to lawyers about the law?
I’m planning a trip to Jefferson City to talk to SOMEBODY.
I got a lawyer in Oklahoma reprimanded and had one in Ohio running scared… These fucking Missouri Baromaniacs need to clear the state house because I know how to fucking read.
Assholes. Assholes. Assholes.
Now, about this child? WHAT THE HELL?
So, I submitted a post about lawyers. First, I went and found someone else’s article about lawyers. Then, I linked it…
I’m trainable.
“ended up with the MAXIMUM”
did your stepson’s action have anything to do with that?
“I got a lawyer in Oklahoma reprimanded and had one in Ohio running scared … These fucking Missouri Baromaniacs need to clear the state house because I know how to fucking read. Assholes. Assholes. Assholes.”
probably why the clerk wouldn’t talk to you.
Mags fought the law and the Mags won.
Maggie’s career is a series of victories:
HR,
Billy,
cops,
manager,
union,
lawyers,
snippy kid,
stomach cancer,
male nurse,
etc.
They all find out what a Red Rope can get done where others fail.
EC- It takes a special kind of Red Rope to clean up the world single handed. 🙂
I don’t get anything cleaned up, but I make sure the dirty people in the room know they have been discovered.
Gman? you are right… when we sued that lawyer for FRAUD in Oklahoma (Roger Shelton, Shelton Law Firm, Norman) it was FRAUD.
We had to hire a lawyer to correct the FRAUD and then, because a fucking lawyer won’t sue a lawyer (even though it was FRAUD) we sued his ass in small claims court.
When they called our name, the SOB approached the bench and then paid us in the hallway. He forced us to show up in small claims court. The arrogant son of a bitch. So the Oklahoma Bar sends a letter saying “yes, Roger Shelton fraudulently signed that document” but they gave him a PRIVATE reprimand.
Well, if you know Roger Shelton Law Firm in Norman, they committed fraud and I’ve got a private letter to prove it.
Now, the Ohio thieving estate lawyer? That guy is just hoping we don’t come back to Ohio.
Rotten thieves. Rotten.
Actually, gman… I am quite charming to clerks and she shared with me that she couldn’t answer my questions in a really apologetic tone.
Clerks generally are very helpful to me. I was once “one” of them, basically, working the control point for one of the biggest financial databases in the military industrial complex at Tinker AFB.
My stepson drove drunk and lost his license for five years. That five years is over and he has not had any repeat offenses.
But, to reinstate his license? He has to return to Missouri and be fingerprinted and checked for crimes in every other state. So, his father is NOT allowed to represent him to save him the expense.
Gman? Do you really think I’m that stupid? Really?
At least raise Holy Hell!!!
Dead link Fleabaggs.
That makes a nice moniker.
LOL
Say a person lives on average 85 years, 31046 days. For 1 million people * 1/31046 = About 32 or 33 of a million will die on most days. In a country of 1.4 Billion, China, about 45094.3 will die daily. 2,768 extra deaths from Corona over 4 weeks is that same number that would die in (2768/45094) x 24 hours = 1.47 hours = 88 minutes. Probably not larger than the number who die early from cigarettes or air pollution.
If you can believe official reports.
I was out at the hardware store last night picking up some paint supplies and checked the safety aisle out of curiosity. Not a single N95 mask to be found. Looked online – not a single mask within 100 miles of my location. Whether or not you buy into the hysteria, it’s here. We may very well find out just how thin the thread is that’s holding our society together.
Fear can be a crippling thing. To see this in action, listen to the nightly news and weather reports. They all have a fear component in their base.
Just read an article that the chief cook and bottle washer of the CDC is a sister to rob rosenstein. If that is the case what is being covered up that the greater deep state doesn’t want us to know or focus on? Is the deep state using the corona virus for a tool?
In the 70’s, there was a run on coffee. In the 80’s it was toilet paper. I’ll be back with an Idea I have about all this. Nothing new, just an outline.
I think it sounds interesting. It was bowling night. Twofer Tuesday is exciting here in Podunk.
“Not a single N95 mask to be found”
Boots on the ground observation:
Yesterday I had a Dx appt. and on the check-in desk there
was a nearly full box of N95’s sitting there unattended with a note
reading ” Take one if you have been coughing or sneezing”.
Also the cleanest accessible restrooms are always in medical park buildings; not McDonald’s.
And yet, do you really want to go where sick people congregate just to defecate?
Again…if no bleach to be found, go to a pool supply store and buy 27% hydrogen peroxide gallon of Baquacil oxidizer.
Pool shock in powder form. Lasts forever, I hope. Got two pound of it in the basement that I bought about 10 years ago. Still in the original packages and then in a plastic bin. There’s a recipe for making bleach with it: One teaspoon pool shock to one gallon of water. Obviously be VERY careful mixing it that you don’t splash on yourself. At that rate I could make hundreds of gallons of bleach from a container smaller than a shoe box.
“Got two pound of it in the basement that I bought about 10 years ago”
watch out for corrosion in anything around it, especially metals. chlorine is fairly insidious.
“Lasts forever, I hope”
pretty sure it doesn’t, chlorine is very reactive. take some out and mix it up and test it. (ten years without assessment? if that’s how you’re storing stuff then you might want to test everything you have.)
In a plastic bag, inside another plastic bag, inside a sealed plastic container. I’m not going to touch it unless I need it because it is reactive and there’s no way I can seal it up again as good as it is now. Opening it would guarantee that the life would be limited from the second I breached the inside container.
“In a plastic bag, inside another plastic bag, inside a sealed plastic container”
all that is permeable to chlorine, I’ll betcha it’s inert by now. replace it, then check the original just to see. and when you store the replacement place an iron nail on top of it so you can see how much of it is extruding over time.
Good chance it is still good if completely sealed as you describe. Still probably a good idea to buy another bucket of the stuff…
Sounds like the key is well packaged and yours would be with multiple bags plus, most importantly, the platic bucket…
Granular Chlorine
Chlorine granules sold in bucketsCalcium Hypochlorite, aka pool shock or granular chlorine also has a long shelf life, if kept in an air tight container, in a cool and dry (indoor) location. Pool shock in 1 lb. bags absorb moisture from humid air, and bags can dissolve in 12-24 months (!). For longer term storage, re-pack into zip-loc freezer bags or buy Chlorine Granules, sold in buckets. Properly stored, pool shock has a shelf life of over 5 years.
The liberal main stream media fake news will milk this for everything they can get. They want the economy to fall–this is like a gift to them better than any Russia hoax could ever do.
“Donald Trump continues to set himself up as one of these scapegoats as he still dismisses the coronavirus pandemic as nothing to be worried about, claiming “some people think” it will be gone by April.”
“Trump’s purpose is to act as a magnet for controversy and distraction while ignoring blaring alarms of impending crisis; he is meant to play the role of the bumbling villain. His response to the Cov19 virus so far fits that theory.”
It appears Donald Trump would have great company among many here.
http://www.alt-market.com/index.php/articles/4123-the-global-economy-was-sinking-long-before-the-coronavirus-appeared
Which is why I sarcastically said I have nothing to worry about since President Tweet hasn’t told me to worry.
Not to correct your spelling but it’s Shintaro. Are you Yoko’s brother?
EC-I agree, I will STAY CALM til the all knowing fed. government tells me it’s a crisis. Cable news talking heads will have 24 hour a day info to keep me informed of the death count.
One of my kids are taking a international flight in a few days, I said , “have a nice trip”.
BL.
1,250 people in the U.S. have died already today from DEATH, and you’re letting your kids get on a plane with a pilot who might die from something?
Yup…….Flea, people are dying that have never died before. And you can take that to the bank. 🙂
BL.
Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are, that’s funny.
The CDC is clearly hiding the truth and obviously misleading Trump. He’s being setup.
Sharpie.
You’ve gotta quit watching the VIEW before you log on here.
Normally, I would find it foolish to respond to someone who purposely calls oneself a flea bag. 1. I never made any mention of a, I am assuming news agency you call the VIEW. 2. I assure you logging on here was and will be brief. The intelligence proceeding from many of the comments, echoes more like chatter you would expect from 5th grade students during lunch hour……..and from the U.S. to be more specific. I will not check back, so jest on flea bag, as I would expect nothing less.
Sharpie.
The more you talk the more you confirm your ignorance. Did You even google “The View”? You belong on it as a host.
Is Dr. Shapiro really an angry, hateful, prejudiced Negro woman using a Jewish alias (the same as a notorious hair replacement specialist)?
Asking for a disinfected party. (Disaffected?)
We’ll miss your keen intellect as well as your credentials.
We lack really lack that around here.
I saw really saw what you did there.
Sharpless.
Flea bags is a Mountain William colloquial idiom describing a rural flea infested Canis Lupis Familiaris. I use it in honor of my inbred hillbilly father.
How many before I avoid public places,really depends on who is playing at the concert.
So…. some gals at the bus garage were talking this morning: One commented how she knew a young bride-to-be who learned she may not be getting the wedding dress she ordered because of coronavirus. Another expressed concern about receiving the prom dress her daughter ordered.
Shit’s gettin’ real now.
But what I find most interesting is how the same people who, just a few weeks ago, were talking about Trump taking the blame for any economic downturn prior to the election, are now accepting of the current stock market plunge as due to coronavirus. And, I suppose, this is to be expected because the MSM is universally blaming the COVID-19 outbreak.
This today from one of the largest news sources in the digital bubble, Yahoo, simultaneously spraying smart devices around the globe as I type:
Coronavirus has ravaged the stock market and the extreme selling may just be starting
Fascinating, no?
But what remains to be seen, however, is if coronavirus is one of the best things to happen to Trump prior to November 3, 2020. Or the worst.
“if coronavirus is the best thing to happen to Trump prior to November 3, 2020. Or the worst.”
It will be both.
You obviously didn’t understand my “Two Faces of Flu” song parody.
Don’t worry about the stock market Unc, the FED is still stuffing $$ in to keep it afloat. Trump can tweet his way out of any situation that may be credited to him.
it will be whatever the propagandists need it to be, whenever they need it to be, as long as they need it to be, as many times as they need it to be. and anyone who says otherwise will be called a hater/racist/pharisee/etc.
The MSM are praying everyday our economy collapses before November 2020 and they can blame it on Trump.
It’s their sick way of thinking they can take back the White House
I hate to belabor the obvious, but a good economy is the only thing between them and a lamp post.
I love it when they say “so and so caused a drop/ rise in the market today”. How do they know? they never give evidence.
“they never give evidence”
that’s because if you have to be told why it went up or down then you’re not in the “in” crowd and it doesn’t matter what you’re told.
The (((in))) crowd or just “in”?
(((in))). though there will always be a few pet goy to provide cover.
I live in a rural area in northern Cal and before all this I only went into town a few times a week either to go to the grocery store or Home Depot for supplies for whatever project I would be working on. I’ve already begun to minimize the number of trips into town.
So far the only evidence I’ve seen that anything is different is that Home Depot is out of N95 and a few days ago I saw the first person wearing a mask in Trader Joes.
“How Many Cases Of Covid-19 Will It Take For You To Decide Not To Frequent Public Places?”
three deaths of local people less than 60 years old.
Very specific. Do you mind if I adopt the standard? It’s as good as any.
“Very specific.”
I think I’m the only one that answered the question. probably because most everyone here already is on some kind of lockdown.
“Do you mind if I adopt the standard?”
feel free.
“It’s as good as any”
I figure one is just an incident, two is coincident, but three is a thing. and by the way, where I live and work we have dozens of people travelling throughout the u.s. and returning every week of the year, and so far we’ve seen zero.
Yes you are. I don’t go out much anyway. Food and beer and booze, stuff for my old POS RV I’m rehabbing.
update. so far zero deaths.
The only thing I know for sure is that the global government/governments lie to us. It is too early to tell (if ever) if they are hyping covid 19 or downplaying covid 19. Either way they are manipulating the crisis to their advantage (increasing their power, wealth, and control) so I’m not sure if it matters which way they are skewing it. I’m pretty much a hermit already but I did go out this week to stock up on dog food and get my hair cut. Talking to the clerk at the gas station made me realize how quickly and how far covid 19 could spread if it really can be spread by someone for 24 days before they become symptomatic (if they ever become symptomatic and aren’t just a carrier). All it would take is one carrier in a position like that clerk to spread it state wide. If that is the case then it is already a pandemic and the only way to avoid it would be to have absolutely no contact with anybody from now probably for the rest of your life. Better to stay as healthy as possible, stock up on colloidal silver, get a nebulizer to get the colloidal silver into your lungs, and not worry about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pk13Lk2SK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O5ZXuqu-f0
“corona / no corona”
(laugh)
We went to the store today for some canned goods and ammo. As we were driving we decided to get booze too. The strip mall with the liquor store was busy but I didn’t really think overly so. Academy Sports is at the other end of the strip so we stopped and got 500 rounds of 22 long rifle and 50 of 45 ACP. Then off to Walmart for Pepcid and canned goods, it was very busy for a Wednesday in the middle of the day that is not a SNAP check day. Then on to Vera’s meat market and Dollar Tree. They were both like Walmart, extra busy to my perception.
I tried to wear plastic gloves while I shopped and discard them as I returned to the car. I have decided that if I have to rely on PPG I’m dead. The protocols necessary to not cross infect would be onerous, and my wife loves people, talks to them stops and helps them try on clothes or chose soup, or … well you get the idea. The only method I could see working would be a wash down station as we return home and segregating clothing and shoes outside. Even then anything I buy would have to be disinfected before bring it in to a “clean area”. Fuck I’m 62 and lived a good life, seen some shit that others wouldn’t believe. If I get it I hope it’s not a too painful way to go.
Robin.
Right. At 72 I’m not spending what’s left shivering in fear that CDC won’t be able to quarantine a strong wind from the nearest city airport.
Revelation was Nov 10th, 2019 (for me, personally) but I’m not going full Corona-tard just yet.
I will however, say this.
It’s *over* financially(1) and politically(2) folks.
(1)
https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/?symbol=US30Y
(2)
“It’s *over* financially(1) and politically(2) folks”
no way this is over yet, there’s an awful lot of screaming and running to be done ….
BREAKING NEWS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
President Trump has appointed a Coronavirus Task Force. There are 60 cases of Americans testing positive.
* There were probably 10,000 diagnosed cases of typical flu today in the US that required no task force. Interesting.
BL.
This despite the lack of a test. If the Pandemic Tzar say’s I’m sick I’m sick. The Military is also preparing bases for quarantine centers because we’ve done everything possible to make sure this thing gets spread and we aren’t going to waste the effort.
Because having an organization called The Center For Disease Control with an annual budget of 20 billion dollars just wasn’t enough to control the spread of a disease.
You couldn’t make this shit up in your worst fever dreams.
Do you think putting people in positions of great responsibility because they met the criteria for affirmative action placement will EVER be mentioned? Have you SEEN some of these directors of these international health organizations? It is obvious they are reading a list of “talking points” they really don’t understand.