Authored by Bruce Wilds via Advancing Time blog,
What we really need to know about the coronavirus is how it will affect us as individuals. The picture presented by governments is sketchy at best. Driven by agendas such as preventing panic and spinning the ramifications to lessen their toll on financial markets has made what they say unreliable.
The big issue facing all of us is what to expect and how to prepare.
Below is a list of five crucial issues before us.
- Just how deadly is this thing and what are the odds you will get it?
- Are we looking at citywide lock-downs such as those that have been instituted in other countries?
- Is it expected to return time and time again and how long before we know?
- If I or someone I know appears to start showing symptoms, what is the best course forward?
- What are the long and short term economic consequences of this outbreak?
It has become obvious this virus is very easy to contract, one well-respected expert predicted early on that 60 to 80 percent of people would get it before it ran its course. A week ago The Atlantic reported that according to Harvard epidemiology professor Marc Lipsitch, the coronavirus “will ultimately not be containable.” His number is only slightly less comfortable,
“Lipsitch predicts that, within the coming year, some 40 to 70 percent of people around the world will be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19.”
The professor went on to say this doesn’t mean all of those victims will become seriously ill and that “many will have mild disease, or may be asymptomatic.”
This reinforces what is being reported out of Daegu, South Korea where around 1900 Shincheonji Church members have been tested for coronavirus. 1300 had symptoms & 600 did not. Among those 1331 with symptoms, 87.5% were confirmed with the virus but just as troubling is that of those without symptoms, 70% were confirmed with coronavirus. In short, 420 tested positive but asymptomatic and 1,131 tested positive and symptomatic. This means 1,551 infected out of roughly 1900 plays out to an infection rate of 81%.
I’m not panicked but rather have resolved myself to the fact we are living in a world that may never be the same if this virus is as mean as it appears. Our lifestyles were already facing some rapid social adjustments but concerns of being stalked by such a virus are unsettling, to say the least. It does not help that our government has appeared to make an effort to mask the danger of the coronavirus from the American people not to avert panic but to protect the all-important stock market rally. Thus far many Americans are unaware of or under the impression, we have little to fear from this virus. This attempt to deny the threat raises the question of whether economic and political concerns are pushing common sense aside.
On another site a commentator wrote; Indications are that it generally takes a few weeks for the coronavirus to overwhelm someone and lead to death. If it does, which for many it does not, this implies that when we see deaths, those people have had the virus for weeks. If you don’t get better after two weeks you may eventually find yourself drowning in your own body fluids quarantined in a hospital. If you do get well after viral pneumonia, the virus most likely has permanently damaged your lungs and might just be hiding there in your respiratory cells, waiting to revisit, maybe more than once. If it returns your survival is even less likely.
This virus is particularly dangerous because, as noted, it may cause no symptoms at all in many carriers of the infection. This has lead to stringent measures being taken both inside and outside of China to stop its spread. In Italy people are being prevented from leaving towns, one wonders how severe the panic will be as this spreads across the globe. Store shelves in some areas are already beginning to empty as those most informed begin to plan ahead and take precautions that they may find themselves in a similar situation.
Not Enough Bed- You Don’t Want This!
We do know there are not enough beds to treat all those who react badly to the virus and require intense hospital care and some of these people will still die. The bill for such care will be massive and taxpayers will get stuck with much of it. It appears the best and only way to initially treat this virus is to treat it like the flu and hope for the best. Rest and keeping up your fluid intake is crucial. A big problem with getting good information about how fast this virus is spreading comes from the fact we simply don’t know, how long a person should be quarantined and how long the virus can live on different surfaces is still being debated.
Slow-moving incompetent overpaid bureaucrats within governments with strong agendas generate and control both the data and the narrative. Whether the goal of a government is to limit panic, deflect criticism from its failings, or simply generate the impression they have control of the situation we pay the price. The fact is, the long latency period before someone shows symptoms makes it is quite possible for someone to be carrying the virus but show no signs whatever when they arrive at the airport and pass through minor screening.
As to the long and short term economic consequences of this outbreak, it is difficult to say. Certain sectors of the economy will without a doubt take it squarely on the chin. Business involved in things where people gather or move about are in peril. Also, the disruption of production and deliveries will have a massive effect on business. Many small businesses without the financial resources to absorb losses and whether this storm will fail thus intensifying the downturn and exacerbate inequality. Companies will look at ways to shorten or reduce the weaknesses in their supply chains. This will have long-term consequences.
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I want to know something real simple – who gets protection from a chintzy face mask?
A virus is so small it takes an electron microscope to see one. That means the pores in a typical mask look like the Grand Canyon to the virus. A person wearing a mask inhales through it and the mask is basically not there for an airborne virus. When the person exhales, the mask gets moist from all the humid air in the breath and allows the potentially virus laden air to pass right through it. That moisture is the perfect breeding ground for all sorts of nasty stuff.
I’ll agree that a mask slows down the exhaled breath so it might not carry as far towards another person, but once the virus is again in free air, the ambient wind conditions determine what it hits next.
So, what is the point of the mask? I think we’re being bullshitted.
Yeah, that’s why Dr’s wear them.
Well, you have to wear the right mask…..you know, like the N95 which has a neat little plastic thingy on the front to make it look like something a pro would use.
I use the 3M N95 masks when cleaning steel of rust and mill scale on my welding projects, so I’m familiar with that type of mask. I also use the 3M 2297 when working with acetone or paint fumes. That pair of filters fits a plastic face mask that is what you actually have on your face; the pair of filters attaches to the plastic mask.
I still think all these masks are useless against something so small that it will pass right through it as though it wasn’t there.
Although that little flap on the N95 makes exhaling easier, it still leaves a lot of breath moisture inside the mask if you wear it long enough. That little flap also concentrates the exhaled air flow so it’s likely to go father towards another person than exhaling without a mask.
I read that virus is usually carried on water droplets from coughing. The mask doesn’t get it all, but can block some of it. Less exposure = less risk.
You’re pretty much spot on. And, you already said it but, it does help reduce the spread by someone already sick and is coughing and sneezing. It would need to be tossed and replaced once it does start getting moist and nasty. Nitrile gloves and goggles would work well too. But, I would only be wearing these items in my home should my wife be sick or, me for that matter.
As virulent as this virus appears to be, these items are better than nothing but, over a long term, not very helpful.
The gloves are porous as well to a virus.
Put gloves under a strong microscope and it’s full of holes. The reason gloves work when washing dishes or working on a greasy car is because those molecules are bigger than the holes in the glove matrix.
A virus will look at those holes and think its discovers a highway tunnel system. People forget how incredibly small a virus is. Anything flexible to you and me looks like the holes in Swiss cheese to the virus.
The idea that a lessened viral load is a preventative doesn’t make sense to me. A single virus can start the replication process and in short order reproduce itself. All that a lessened initial load represents is a delay in how quickly there’s enough virus to start displaying symptoms.
Full disclosure – I’m not a pill pusher / pharmaceutical salesman that we provide the salary for and I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
A number of years ago, I read somewhere that the pores in latex can be big enough to let the HIV virus through.
Practice safe sex – use full plate armor?
Don’t have a lover named Pete.
“A US-Chinese team of researchers created a simulated examination room with mechanized mannequins spaced 6 feet apart to represent coughing and breathing humans. They found that flu viruses floated between the two and were “inhaled” by the breathing mannequin, but that an N95 respirator sealed to the mannequin’s face stopped 99.8% of them.
“A poorly fitted respirator or a loose-fitting surgical mask, by contrast, blocked only about two thirds of the virus particles.”
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2012/04/lab-study-supports-use-n95-respirators-flu-protection
The study reference came from comments to this article:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/330-million-residents-times-1-facemask-per-day-10-billion-masks-per-month/
Also noted in comments to the Unz article:
“The thing is, if you don’t use masks carefully, they end up doing more harm than good. I see people every day, especially children, grabbing the outside of their masks to take them off, thereby transferring onto their hands whatever gunk the mask has supposedly filtered out, and then nose-picking, eye rubbing, etc.“
“This reinforces what is being reported out of Daegu, South Korea where around 1900 Shincheonji Church members have been tested for coronavirus. 1300 had symptoms & 600 did not. Among those 1331 with symptoms, 87.5% were confirmed with the virus but just as troubling is that of those without symptoms, 70% were confirmed with coronavirus. In short, 420 tested positive but asymptomatic and 1,131 tested positive and symptomatic. This means 1,551 infected out of roughly 1900 plays out to an infection rate of 81%.”
It would be interesting to see how many of those asymptomatic cases stay that way over the next two months or so.
He missed one. What is the reinfection rate?
#3 Oldtimer.
Thank you Anonymous. I read that as meaning you could simply catch it again. I was thinking about the time period between reinfection. I was perhaps being to microscopic in my thinking. Being able to catch it again and again would suggest it will never burn itself out until a natural immunity forms or a way to wall off the infection via antibiotics.
Antibiotics don’t work on virus. An antiviral is SUPPOSED to work on them.
The body’s immune system is the only thing capable of long term defense against this or any virus. All the pharma stuff has side effects, especially things that want to tinker with DNA & RNA. No thank you.
Just like there’s nothing the doctor can give you for a cold, there’s nothing a doctor can give you for this THAT’S EFFECTIVE.
On another article on TBP I posted a link to a PDF that I think has some interesting observations on this issue.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/0418-Blaylock.pdf
Walling off is a term used to describe supporting he bodies natural immune system. Call them assistants if you will.
sao,
that was good info,thanks–
sao,
one more comment about the newsletter you linked to–
did you read after the corona info was covered,the part about pot & it’s potential to be implicated in mass shootings?
that would be worth a standalone thread–
SAO, that was a very good article. It echoes other articles I’ve read from doctors I trust. It’s great information to have for fighting this virus. But what I like about it is it actually explains what’s going on in your body and how the recommendations work. Excellent!
Sounds like we are at stage 3. – acceptance.
No dodging this bullet Will be an interesting next 2 years.
Actually, it appears their agendas are meant to increase panic and crash financial markets. And it’s working.
After quoting “Harvard professor Marc Lipsitch”, the author says:
and
Maybe. Maybe not.
In the meantime, how many people in the world do you suppose have had, and currently have, coronaviruses in their system?
Coronavirus and the Common Cold – web.stanford.edu
So even if all coronaviruses were not created equal….
What else ya’ gonna do?
They treat this with the same meds they treat Aids patients.
the masks are to keep you from spreading your germs, not from catching germs.
a vast majority of people carry numerous viruses, over 400 million (globally) carry the herpes virus, and still manage to pay their taxes.
the more this get hyped, the more you should realize that you are being manipulated, again.
20-5o years ago it was the communists.
last decade it was islamo terrorists, but thankfully after the manchurian kenyan left office, ISIS disappeard, absolutely no correlation, just a coincidence.
this decade will be dedicated to a different invisible, unseen enemy, the bio weaponized common cold virus.
are you scared yet?
Wait until uncle sam tells you to buy duct tape and clear plastic to seal your house shut, then invest in 3M and Clorox
(both are up in after hours trading)
Terrible, just terrible.
I love your sense of humor Anonymous.
I’m wondering if vinegar vapors would help with this virus. You put vinegar in very hot water in a bowl, drape a towel over your head as a tent, and breath in the steam coming from the vinegar water. I used to do this to help clear my nasal passages when I had really bad colds or suffered from bad sinus problems. It definitely helped me.
At this point, what can it hurt? I intend to give this and other old remedies a try.