The Biggest Thing Since 1776 is Happening NOW… How the Coronavirus Will Spark the Greater Depression

Via International Man

coronavirus economic depression

International Man: Panicked people are emptying supermarket shelves and stockpiling toilet paper. Hand sanitizer is impossible to find anywhere.

Is the impact of the fear and hysteria greater than the risk of the virus itself?

Doug Casey: Yes, very much so. The virus itself is what we can call a first-order effect. I don’t want to spend much time talking about the flu itself because, even though worst-case numbers like a million deaths in the US are tossed around, it’s not the biggest problem.

The second-order effects—like the economy shutting down from hysteria—are actually much more serious.

The third-order effects—new laws and state action—will have the longest-lasting consequences. We can talk about them in a minute.

As far as the virus itself is concerned, I’m sure everybody has read lots of articles and listened to podcasts from experts. So knowledge—such as it is—about the virus is fairly widespread. Except very little is certain, even now. FWIW, I say that as a lifetime science aficionado, reading in many areas of science for years.

Just in the last generation, we’ve had hantavirus, the bird flu, swine flu, Zika, West Nile, MERS, SARS, and H1N1. We’ve also had anthrax—which everybody’s forgotten about. Of course, it’s a bacterial infection as opposed to a viral one. They’ve all had their day in the dark sun of mass hysteria.

The point I’m making is that there are thousands of viruses floating around. They mutate constantly. Most of them pass through the population and go viral, so to speak—and we never even notice that they exist.

Now this one is said to be ten times worse in terms of death rate than a normal flu. Is that true? It seems that if you get it, your odds of dying are much worse but still minimal. Normal seasonal cases of the flu kill maybe 50,000 people a year in the US. But we don’t even notice that.

So what’s the worst-case scenario regarding this virus?

Nobody really knows because it is a new virus. They’re still figuring it out, but maybe between 1% and 2% of the people who get it will die, mostly the old, the sick, and the obese. If you’re in one of those categories, you should take it very seriously.

The interesting thing about this virus is that very few have died so far, anywhere; the numbers would have been unnoticeable outside of the media hysteria. Not even a rounding error on a rounding error. The important thing is that it’s said to be spreading exponentially, doubling every three days or so. So maybe things will change radically in a week. Or not. It’s said at least 50% of the US population will get it, although 80% of them will be completely asymptomatic.

If you read all the conflicting reports from China, Italy, and other places, it’s pretty clear we don’t know much. There’s just one thing for absolutely certain: The world has been gripped by a genuinely titanic and insane hysteria.

Anyway, even the worst case from first-order effects—people dying— is being dwarfed by the second- and third-order effects. The important thing about this virus is not the first order of effects—people that it kills directly. It’s the consequences of the hysteria that it’s causing.

That’s what’s really serious.

International Man: What are the secondary or tertiary effects of the coronavirus?

Doug Casey: We just talked about the first-order effects of the virus. Death for a relatively small number of people. An unfortunate part of life on this planet.

Let’s talk about second-order effects. What the virus—or rather the hysteria surrounding it—is doing to people’s livelihoods.

Airlines are shut down. An airliner, all in, costs them $10,000 a day, whether they use it or not. Same, to some degree, for hotels. A restaurant closes down, but the owner still has to pay his mortgage. And the staff mostly lives on tips. How are they going to pay the rent—and if they don’t, then how’s the landlord going to pay his mortgage? The consequences of businesses shutting down, and going bust, are just huge.

For many years, the US has been what’s called a “service economy.” Most people don’t produce actual hard goods like houses, cars, food, and raw materials. We mostly do services. It’s a so-called “consumer economy.” A rather stupid concept actually—the term takes the emphasis off production and puts it on consumption.

When you have a depression, what happens?

Consumers cut back consumption to the very barest basics.

Services are the first to go. Hospitality and travel alone is supposedly ten percent of the world’s economy. People will now keep their cars for years, and maybe, sell the spare car. Forget about new wardrobes. The clothing and fashion businesses get slammed. Everyone will try to sell their big showy houses and get something practical.

Distortions cranked into the economy by decades of money printing are going to be liquidated. Everybody is going to cut back to the basics. A lot of people are going to have to find new ways to support themselves.

It’s especially serious since, it’s said, most of America is one paycheck away from not being able to buy the next meal. Plus, they have lots of debt—which is somebody else’s asset. Counterparty risk is a big deal.

The collapse of the stock market isn’t just tagging speculators. Most older people don’t have enough savings for retirement, and most of what they have is in the market. Will they lose their homes, and wind up eating cat food? Poverty, not flu, is what really kills masses of people. This is why these second-order effects are so important.

The hysteria is unnecessary and foolish. But sometimes hysterias seem to come out of nowhere, like the witch crazes of the 17th century. Did the economy shut down for any of the past viruses that I mentioned?

The answer is no—not even for the Spanish flu, which was largely forgotten until just now. Now, that was serious. It was a chaotic wartime environment, and medicine was primitive—we didn’t even know viruses existed.

Now, as was probably the case in 1918, almost everybody is going to wind up getting the flu because the flu is a virus. By definition, it goes viral.

The main reason given for shutting down everything is to “flatten the curve”, so the numbers don’t spike and overwhelm hospitals. If you’re a serious casualty, you can go to a hospital. But, frankly, they can do nothing for you, except put you on a ventilator, and hope that gives you time to recover. It’s said there are about 150,000 in the US, and you may need it for five or six days.

But life goes on, and the economy will recover. More serious than the first-order or second-order effects are third-order effects.

In other words, what the government is going to do. For one thing, they’ll probably set up a new national health regulatory agency, and/or give the FDA new powers. Bad move. The FDA is to medicine what Amtrak is to railroads. It should be renamed the Federal Death Authority since it probably kills more people every year than the Defense Department does in the typical decade.

Governments all around the world are putting in onerous new laws and regulations about travel, movement, and business. These things have to be paid for, which means higher taxes. But that’s almost impossible in a collapsing economy. So, not just the Americans—everybody is going to print up boatloads of new money.

Because so many people have no savings and are living from paycheck to paycheck, it’s probably the perfect excuse to set up a guaranteed annual income. People have been already been prepped for the ridiculous concept.

International Man: The stock market had its biggest drop since 1987. Has the everything bubble found its pin?

Doug Casey: Yes. A major second-order effect of this virus is that it just happened to be the pin that broke the biggest financial bubble in world history. And it’s very hard to reinflate a burst bubble.

I don’t care how much money the government prints. That’s just going to cause catastrophic retail inflation.

Will it solve the debt problem? Only the way a heart attack will take your attention off cancer. If you lose your job and your business isn’t making money, your debt is still there, and it’s still compounding with interest. That’s why it’s likely The Greater Depression will start out like the US in 1929.

The thing that worries the authorities is that we might have a catastrophic 1929 style credit collapse; they’re printing tons of money to counter that. We could have in sequence, first, the 1929-style credit collapse and then the 1923 German-style runaway inflation.

This is the worst of all possible worlds, and not unlikely.

It’s entirely the fault of state intervention in the economy and the Federal Reserve creating a bubble economy with all this phony money. That’s where the blame should go. But of course, the blame won’t go there.

The blame will go to capitalism.

It’s also a perfect excuse for Modern Monetary Theory (MMT), which essentially holds that the government can print up all the money that it wants, and there really won’t be any bad effects.

Not only is the government herding people like cattle, but the people are screaming for the government to “do something.” People expect the government to fix the problem. As if it was magic. But there’s no problem the government can’t make much worse.

The government is, quite naturally, further removing responsibility from the individual.

There are going to be vast consequences from this stock market meltdown. Most people already had inadequate retirement funds, and what they had was in the market. There will be recriminations about who was to blame, lawsuits, and lots of new laws as the public screams for Congress to “do something.”

Every government and, indeed, every large company and organization feel that they have to do something or they’re going to be accused of sleeping at the switch. That’s why they’re going wild on the side of caution and control.

In today’s ultra-litigious environment, they’re afraid they’ll get sued if anybody catches something, and it’s traced back to their restaurant, their gym, their conference—anything.

In times like this, Trump—who has zero understanding of economics and is an authoritarian by nature—is ultra-dangerous. He’s capable of doing almost anything to show how decisive he is.

International Man: What other types of responses will we see from governments?

Doug Casey: They’re likely to promote a vaccine. I’m not against vaccines, per se. Edward Jenner and his creation of the smallpox vaccine showed their efficacy 200 years ago. Vaccines against seasonal flu are proven to be only 30–60% effective, at best, but that’s not the problem. Because the hysteria around this thing has been so catastrophic, they’re likely to force everybody to take the vaccine.

Now, this is where it gets really serious because if you don’t take the vaccine or if you escape taking it, you probably won’t get a vaccination card. If you don’t get a card proving you’ve had it, maybe you can’t get on a plane or a train or even go to a public gathering without showing your card.

No doubt, they’ll create a new agency like the TSA. Once it’s created, the thing will be self-perpetuating and won’t go away.

International Man: What else do you see happening?

Doug Casey: Another third-order effect is that they’ll say that cash is a vector of transmission. It’s an excellent impetus to speed up the elimination of cash, which would be a disaster for personal freedom, for reasons we’ve discussed before.

As I said, I don’t fear the virus as much as the second- and third-order effects.

The consequences, the knock-on effects, of the Wuhan Virus could be the biggest thing since the founding of the country, not just since the Great Depression of 1929 to 1946.

The pin that broke the financial hyper bubble may well have started a cascade of consequences.

International Man: What should the average person be doing for prudence and profit?

Doug Casey: Again, it’s likely that we’ll have a deflationary collapse before we go into inevitable hyperinflation. I’ve said this for years. Things you expect to happen always seem to take longer than they should—but once they get underway, they happen much more quickly.

What to do? At this late stage, there’s not much the average person can do. How do you prepare for a heart attack after a lifetime of eating junk food?

It’s too late to pay off debt if you have a lot, but they’ll probably have a moratorium on it, so it‌’s going to be somebody else’s problem. You know what they say: “If you owe the bank a thousand dollars, it’s your problem. If you owe the bank a billion dollars, it’s the bank’s problem.” There are going to be lots of variations on that theme, considering there are a couple hundred trillion of debt out there.

What can you do if you have some savings?

Well, first of all, as far as assets are concerned, you’ve got to have gold and silver coins, although they’re now selling for big premiums and have become hard to get. Previously, they were selling for almost no premium.

So, it’s getting a little bit late for that too.

On the bright side, however, in the next few months, if you have cash, there are going to be fantastic bargains in the stock market in general. But by far the best place will be gold stocks, which are very, very cheap.

Unlike most companies today, they’re coining money because the average all-in sustaining costs of gold mines around the world are under $1,000 per ounce and dropping because about 20%–30% of the typical goldmine’s costs are fuel. The price of oil has also collapsed to $20, and gasoline is at $0.70 in the futures market.

This is the ideal time to buy gold miners. You don’t want to try to catch a falling safe; you want to wait until it conveniently smashes open on the sidewalk. Now is the time.

That’s what the average person should do. Other than that, prepare to enter the trailing edge of the gigantic hurricane we entered in 2008.

On the lighter side, this might be a perversely appropriate time to dust off your copy of Bocaccio’s Decameron. It is, after all, a plague year…

Editor’s Note: Unfortunately, most people have no idea what really happens when a government goes out of control, let alone how to prepare.

How will you protect yourself in the coming economic crisis?

New York Times best-selling author Doug Casey and his team just released Surviving and Thriving During an Economic Collapse an urgent new PDF report. It explains what could come next and what you can do about it so you don’t become a victim. Click here to download the free PDF now.

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25 Comments
Cow Doctor
Cow Doctor
March 19, 2020 3:47 pm

Big reset. If we listen to these two we’re F’d. If the people stand up we could start something better as per Robert Gore’s post today. It’s definitely a fourth turning…do we take advantage or do we become deeper enslaved?

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  Cow Doctor
March 19, 2020 5:42 pm

Just for some perspective around 9000 people have died globally from Covid19 over the past 3 months. 9000 people died of TB in the past 3 days. On your drive in to work today you had a 1 in 103 chance of dying in a car accident, in even the most dire calculations of Covid19 run rampant your chance of dying is 1 in 245,000

You can blame the media and your idiot “flatten the curve” friends, if you lose your job over this false danger hype.

I ain’t Skeered….

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Saxons Wrath
March 19, 2020 6:29 pm

Litmus test: next January take 2020’s death totals-from ALL causes-and compare to the totals from previous years. There may be some underlying truths in this year’s totals that are not at all apparent today. Or even a long time ago, like in way last week.

Patience sometimes is a useful virtue.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Saxons Wrath
March 19, 2020 8:49 pm

I question your statistic regarding driving to work. I drove to work more than 200 days a year for 42 years and am still here. Your odds would have me dead the first 6 months.

I know that maff be hard, but give us some support for your figures.

ASIG
ASIG
  Saxons Wrath
March 19, 2020 11:28 pm

chance of dying is 1 in 245,000
total nonsense

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Saxons Wrath
March 20, 2020 7:25 am

if you are 90 y/o, your chance of dying in the next 10 years is 99.9%….. if you are 80 your chance of dying in the next decade is 99%………. if you are 20, your chance of dying before the end of the century is 99.9%………

As Josey Wales said, “Dying ain’t hard, it’s struggling to live that’s hard.”

Yukon
Yukon
  Saxons Wrath
March 20, 2020 9:36 pm

The 1 in a 103 is flat out false. No one would survive a year of driving to work, 260 days approximately.

Apple
Apple
March 19, 2020 4:04 pm

Two weeks ago we were set for life. Now, just fucking worried. 3rd time we have lost everything we had worked for.

Jdog
Jdog
March 19, 2020 4:09 pm

There is some misinformation in this article about the need to slow the virus. The most important life saving result from the quarantine measures being put in place is to slow the spread of the virus so that it will not overwhelm the medical system. The reason this is so important is that if you get this virus and it is bad enough to require hospitalization, the good news is so long as you are able to get proper medical treatment, the odds are in your favor. If the hospitals are full and you cannot get proper medical treatment odds are you will not survive. That is why it is imperative we slow the spread of this virus. Failure to do so will mean deaths increase exponentially.

So far as the money loss and the coming depression, it was coming anyway. Depressions are caused by excessive debt that reaches the point where there is massive default on that debt. The default of the debts, causes deflation and mass sales of assets which effects all asset classes. The deflation creates a need for cash, but the sale of assets produces less cash because of the deflation, and further erodes the value of assets. It is a feedback loop that does end until the need for assets counteracts the need for cash.

The corona-virus will be blamed for the economic crash, but it was simply the trigger. Had the virus not hit, some other shock to the economy would have and the crash would have happened regardless.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Jdog
March 19, 2020 4:19 pm

That “life-saving result” of opening up a few ventilators down the line for your town’s already-compromised means thousands and thousands of families with no more livelihood. I can’t believe that won’t lead to many more deaths by suicide and overdose down the road than the virus could ever take.

Starvation because of disruption in supplies, at best malnutrition due to lack of cash… these don’t sound like good trade-offs to me. It’s clearly an over-reaction.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Chubby Bubbles
March 19, 2020 7:53 pm

BINGO! And another point: Who would want to survive if by the time they wake up they’re homeless?

SeeBee
SeeBee
March 19, 2020 4:10 pm

The Corona Virus will go down as one of the biggest Hoaxes in World History Hoax Parade. Knocking Tulip Mania off the charts. And just below “All that 9/11 Jazz”

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  SeeBee
March 19, 2020 4:13 pm

I think that is a double amen SB.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  oldtimer505
March 19, 2020 4:15 pm

O.T.
Make that triple.

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  Fleabaggs
March 19, 2020 4:18 pm

Done!

Tom MacGyver
Tom MacGyver
  SeeBee
March 19, 2020 5:44 pm

Indeed. America’s being played.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 19, 2020 4:12 pm

Now is the time to get your fingerless gloves and a 55 gallon barrel to stand by and warm yourself. If we shave our heads we’ll look like that Vin Diesel guy.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
March 19, 2020 5:09 pm

When your best piece of advice is to get back in the stock market for all the deals, you aren’t really groking reality.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
March 19, 2020 6:36 pm

Ran into this term today for the first time:

“Privatizing profits and Socializing losses”.

Sorta like there are 1,500 passengers aboard ship and 300 places in the lifeboats.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Anonymous
March 19, 2020 8:54 pm

More like 330 million passengers and 1 million spots in the lifeboats.

https://youtu.be/TVf035w14Yo

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TN Patriot
March 20, 2020 1:50 am

Are you including all the illegals in your count?

Donkey
Donkey
  hardscrabble farmer
March 19, 2020 10:43 pm

HSF, they always seem to pull it out of the gutter. Maybe this time they don’t want to pull it out?

SeeBee
SeeBee
March 20, 2020 5:09 am

Bill Gates: When Coronavirus Vaccine Becomes Available, Digital Certificates Will Show Who Has Received It

Wake the fuck up people….this is the end game.

a. nonymous
a. nonymous
March 20, 2020 8:36 am

so, the analysis of the severity of the follow on ‘effects’ (which smell suspiciously like they were ready and waiting for just the right crisis to be brought out) , seems on the mark.. but then, what to do about it.. buy stocks? wtf?
people need to be putting in gardens and saving seeds, they need to be setting up alternate barter networks to continue to trade without money because those in power will try very hard now to eliminate cash any and uncontrolled transaction, and you can be sure that the only ‘approved’ transactions will be directly between individuals and big corporations.
people need to figure out who in their community they can trust and they need to develop some ideas about what do do when they see a goon squad in an unmarked van hauling off their neighbor in the middle of the night. because when someone resists, as long as those in power hang on to that power, from here on out it’s going to be more and more with force.

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  a. nonymous
March 20, 2020 9:02 am

I have a feeling this will be taking place in a city or county very close to all of us soon. It is my feeling that this covid-19 hype very well could be a hail mary move to install the one world order. If the US dollar is replaced by a digital currency, the OWO will need a new currency, then it will almost be a certainty we will have to stand up and fight for our freedom no matter how much blood flows. This is not going to be sunshine and beach chairs.