Lord Sumption: The Lockdown Is Without Doubt the Greatest Interference with Personal Liberty in Our History

Guest Post by Edward Peter Stringham

These have been trying times for those who believe that individuals have a right to work and see one’s loved ones. In a mere few days in March, we watched as many of the rights and principles we believed we could take for granted were swept away at the recommendation of a theoretical physicist named Neil Ferguson.

The United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights says that no one shall be subjected to arbitrary exile. Neil Ferguson exercised his rights when not following the lockdown that he advocated.

But for everyone else the result has been what the Wall Street Journal calls “a catastrophe.” The litany of economic, psychological, and social destruction is too depressing to recount here.

Now is the time to look to the future and recommit ourselves to the importance of basic human rights. Many eloquent statements on this from great voices are coming out and one very important voice on this topic is eminent historian and former Supreme Court of the United Kingdom judge Lord Sumption. He is the author of a four-volume history of the Hundred Years’ War and occupies a place in British Society that compares perhaps to the Victorian historian and jurist Lord Acton.

Lord Sumption’s comment on the Covid-19 lockdown is here reprinted in full with my own editorial emphasis in bold:

COVID-19 is not the greatest crisis in our history. It is not even the greatest public health crisis in our history. But the lockdown is without doubt the greatest interference with personal liberty in our history.

It is normal at this point to add ‘in peacetime’. But we can forget that. Even in wartime, we never confined the entire population to their homes, 24/7, if they did not have some excuse acceptable to a Minister.

States have always tried to confine people known to be carrying dangerous infections. But we live in a new world in which, if we are ill, the State will try to cure us. From this, it is said to follow that the State can take control of our lives against our will even if we are healthy, lest we fall ill and need its services too much.

Suddenly, it is our duty to save the NHS, not the other way round.

It is now pointless to object to the imposition of the lockdown in the first place. It has happened. The question is how we get out of it.

It is a pity that the Government did not ask itself that question when, in the blind panic following the delivery of Imperial College London’s Professor Neil Ferguson’s statistical projections, it legislated the lockdown on the hoof in a late-night press conference.

They now find themselves trapped by their own decisions.

Ministers have formulated five tests to be satisfied before the lockdown is lifted. What is wrong with these tests is that they are all about health and only about health.

The Government has formulated them in their own interest. They think that this will allow them to avoid criticism by sheltering behind the scientists. But that is just an evasion of political responsibility. Of course it is understandable that politicians should want to shelter themselves from criticism. But there is no reason why the rest of us should help them do it.

Ending the lockdown is a political decision, not a scientific one.

It boils down to a single question. Is it worth it? That depends only partly on the science. There are also moral judgments, constitutional values and economic consequences involved. But since the Government likes its tests to come in fives, here is a five-part test which tries to address the real issues.

First, the medical issue. I am not going to argue about Professor Ferguson’s projections. They have caused some discomfort among reputable professionals. They are based on some rather arbitrary assumptions. And they leave out of the account important considerations, such as the adverse health consequences of the lockdown itself or the number of people who would have died anyway from underlying clinical conditions even without Covid-19, maybe a few months later. But let us take it as a given, since it is probably true, that the lockdown will save a significant number of lives, albeit fewer than Professor Ferguson projects.

Second, we need to ask how many deaths we are prepared to accept in order to preserve other things that we value. However valuable ‘saving lives’ may be, it is not the only valuable thing. Some comparison is therefore unavoidable between the lives we gain and the other things we lose by a lockdown.

To say that life is priceless and nothing else counts is just empty rhetoric. People say it because it is emotionally comfortable and avoids awkward dilemmas. But they don’t actually believe it.

We went to war in 1939 because lives were worth losing for liberty. We allow cars on the roads because lives are worth losing for convenience. We travel by air although pollution kills. We tut-tut about it, but we willingly do it.

Third question. What sort of life do we think we are protecting? There is more to life than the avoidance of death. Life is a drink with friends. Life is a crowded football match or a live concert. Life is a family celebration with children and grandchildren. Life is companionship, an arm around one’s back, laughter or tears shared at less than two metres. These things are not just optional extras. They are life itself. They are fundamental to our humanity, to our existence as social beings. Of course death is permanent, whereas joy may be temporarily suspended. But the force of that point depends on how temporary it really is.

Viruses don’t just go away. This one will never disappear unless and until there is enough exposure to it to produce collective immunity or an effective vaccine appears.

Talk of compulsorily ‘shielding’ (in plain English locking up) the old and vulnerable until one of those things happens is a cruel mockery of basic human values.

Fourth, there is the money question. People decry attempts to measure the mortality of Covid-19 against the economic cost of reducing it. But this too is rhetoric, and hypocritical rhetoric at that.

Money is not just for plutocrats. You and I and the editor of The Guardian and the driver of the No 9 bus and the Archbishop of Canterbury and the cashier at the supermarket all value and depend on money.

Not just in the sense that it pays our wages or pensions. Hundreds of thousands of businesses are going under. Millions are moving from jobs to universal credit. A thriving economy, of the kind that we are now throwing away, is the source of our security and the foundation of our children’s future.

We would do well not to sneer at it. Poverty kills too. And when it does not kill, it maims, mentally, physically and socially.

Last but not least, we have to ask ourselves what are the limits to the things that the State can legitimately do to people against their will in a liberal democracy.

To say that there are no limits is the stuff of tyrants. Every despot who ever lived thought that he was coercing his subjects for their own good or that of society at large.

One of the more impressive observations of the Swedish epidemiologist Professor Johann Giesecke, in the interview in which he justified Sweden’s refusal to lock its people down, was not about epidemiology at all.

His point was that there are some things that may work and that a totalitarian state like China can do. But a country like Sweden with its long liberal tradition cannot do them unless it wants to become like China.

We, too, have to ask ourselves what kind of relationship we want with the State. Do we really want to be the kind of society where basic freedoms are conditional on the decisions of politicians in thrall to scientists and statisticians? Where human beings are just tools of public policy?

A society in which the Government can confine most of the population without controversy is not one in which civilised people would want to live, regardless of their answers to these questions. Is it worth it?

My own answer is no. Guidance is fine. Voluntary self-isolation is fine, and strongly advisable for the more vulnerable. Most of them will do it by choice. But coercion is not fine. There is no moral or principled justification for it.

Not everyone will agree, which is fair enough. These are difficult value judgments, on which one would not expect general agreement.

The fundamental point is that these questions need to be confronted and publicly discussed by politicians without the kind of emotive evasions, propagandist slogans and generalised hype that have characterised their contribution so far.

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23 Comments
Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
May 11, 2020 6:42 pm

The only rights we have are those we can secure through force or persuasion. Persuasion hasn’t worked.

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  Fleabaggs
May 11, 2020 6:56 pm

I dislike the idea of force but, you are correct Fleabaggs. It would appear that force is the only thing left to apply. The problem with force is, the ones applying it need to know when to dial it down again. History has left us with many examples of failed force. That said, I am in agreement with the force issue. We are, however, in a corner so to speak.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  oldtimer505
May 11, 2020 8:06 pm

O T.
Iv’e always been against violent rebellion without an adequate and doable replacement ready because it will result in it being co-opted or replaced by something as bad or worse.
Although the VC had a bumb cause, it was simple to understand and had leaders in waiting and tolerated no compromise not crucial to victory. This allowed them to punch well above their weight. We have no such thing and no leaders. Me and Xrugger tried to get conversations going here about possible alternatives only to have the resident sissies tel us to cool it.
Neither could I get any discussions going on possible tactics we could use. I sugessted quite a few things but no one would discuss it with or without me.
Given all that and our current condition, I think we should just go for it and take our chances dying standing up. I am so sick of discussing and analysing symptoms ad nauseum. Iv’e heard the argument that we’ll get the site taken down!!! Duh… Is anyone paying attention? Doug Hagmann and David Icke are just two of many very recent shutdowns. If we aren’t taken down by September then it means they like us debating symptoms and whether this or that person will do time.

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  Fleabaggs
May 11, 2020 11:28 pm

I’m in total agreement Fleabaggs. OT

Lars
Lars
  Fleabaggs
May 11, 2020 8:05 pm

Generally, the non-White races in Europe and the U.S. do not comprehend, let alone care about, the concepts of individual rights and civil liberties. For that matter, neither do most Whites nowadays. And too many within the small subset of those who do care are old with various physical limitations. It has now become, it seems to me, a matter of securing a remnant.

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  Lars
May 12, 2020 6:22 am

There is some truth to that Lars. OT

Steve
Steve
May 11, 2020 7:18 pm

These words are coming from the other side of the pond where the liberties we supposedly enjoy in the US are unheard.
In Great Britain you can be jailed for speaking obvious truths.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Steve
May 11, 2020 7:50 pm

Right.
Who was the lady who wrote a few articles posted here who was visited by police in Britain. Was it Holly -O? She had to withdraw from TBP.

nkit
nkit
  Fleabaggs
May 11, 2020 10:00 pm

Holly – O was great. May God bless her for eternity..

TampaRed
TampaRed
  nkit
May 11, 2020 11:56 pm

hollyo was a put up job–

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  TampaRed
May 12, 2020 5:46 am

Red.
Why do you say that? As far as I know she still corresponds with Robert Gore. I haven’t asked him specifically but he brought it up in an email.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Fleabaggs
May 12, 2020 1:19 pm

baggs,
part of me is cynical,skeptical & has a sensitive bs meter–part of me is gullible as hell–
hollyo hooked all you guys w/her strong independent woman yet knowing her place as a woman act–it set off my bs meter b/c you rarely find that anymore in western women who aren’t religious conservatives,which she certainly was not–
after that her articles took on more/more of a shock value until the last one about being accosted in the woods,which was bizarre–

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  TampaRed
May 12, 2020 2:44 pm

I called her on that and she never talked to me again. You are right about the guys going all goo goo. It was all too corny for me but I didn’t think don’t think she was a put up job.

22winmag - TBP's 2020 Mormon Prophecy Recipient
22winmag - TBP's 2020 Mormon Prophecy Recipient
  Fleabaggs
May 11, 2020 10:27 pm

She probably got turned off by the twice-daily Eric Peters articles.

nkit
nkit

couldn’t blame her..

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs

Holly was warned by the police about writing on TBP and when she ignored them they came to her house if I’m not mistaken. Admin or Robert Gore would know more details. She lives in Britain where the have real speech police.

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  Fleabaggs
May 11, 2020 11:31 pm

This level of censorship is totally unacceptable in this country. It such a thing happens here I hope it becomes the trigger for use of force.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Administrator
May 12, 2020 12:02 am

she was the only one in the group that was arrested–was she arrested 4 not having a mask,4 being on the beach in violation of the lockdown,or 4 having the dog on the beach–

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  TampaRed
May 12, 2020 6:32 am

I did not know or was not reading the burning platform at the time of holly O. I guess the question is was the arrest justifiable. It seems we are more in to oppression today and not so much into curbing true criminal behavior. The overlords keep changing the rules and moving the goal posts to suit “their” needs and don’t under any circumstances question their rules. JMO

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  oldtimer505
May 12, 2020 1:10 pm

O T.
Just type in Hello from Holly O in the search bar and there is a short update on her and what she is doing from Jan. 1, 2018. It has all the links to her articles.

22winmag - TBP's 2020 Mormon Prophecy Recipient
22winmag - TBP's 2020 Mormon Prophecy Recipient
May 11, 2020 10:21 pm

But muh person liberties be gettin’ trampled. -Typical LOLbertarian

Your personal liberties amount to jack shit in a fight to the death.

This is a fight to the death.

Never enter a terminal crisis or share a foxhole with a LOLbertarian.

PS- “We went to war in 1939 because lives were worth losing for liberty.” Good fucking grief, try again.

Thunderbird
Thunderbird
May 12, 2020 1:06 pm

Freedom is not for free. That is what society today is finding out.

The freedoms we have enjoyed up to recently were paid for in blood by our ancestors. For those freedoms to be secured again in our current society, will have to be paid for in blood again. That is the way it has always been in this world.

There are a small percentage of humanity that like to control others. This small percentage will use force and even kill to get their way.

This fact must be understood by the masses who are subject to the hubris of this small percentage.

Killing of another human being is a problem with the majority who have souls because those with a soul have a conscience. In the bible it is a commandment not to kill another human who has a soul and can be reformed of their sins against humanity. In the old testament when the Hebrews were ready to take possession of the promised land they were told to kill all the people that occupied that land. Why? Because they were nonconformable.

Today we have people in power positions over us that are soulless and nonconformable. They are not suitable to be our leaders. They have no vision. They are not servants of the people.

There is only one remedy.