Guest Post by Kurt Schlichter
So, Donald Trump, Jr., retweeted a mean tweet about Grandpa Badfinger and the usual suspects went through their collective panty wetting again. “Civility is important,” we barbarians are duly informed, because of course it is. But we have noticed, over time, that in reality it only seems to be important when we are the ones breaching it. For us, it is open season. We have a big target on our collective back for the vilest slanders and the most ridiculous lies, but apparently that’s OK. “Civility” apparently only raises it’s well-coiffed, Romney-esque head when we breach it.
S.E. Cupp, the formerly relevant Smart Girl Glasses model, gave away the game after Pelosi called Trump “morbidly obese”: “Let me end the suspense. Trump’s called multiple women fat, slobs, pigs, dogs. He bragged about grabbing us by the p***y. He attacked female journalists and wishes we’d be more like a subservient 1950s housewife. So, yeah. When Pelosi calls him obese I find it f*****g hilarious.” (I added some *s). Gee, I guess this politeness norm is so important that our betters have to burn the village to save it.
It’s almost like “civility” is just a way to shut us up and ensure that we have no means to fight back against our opponents, who will then be free to pummel us into submission.
The Fredocons and Never Trump goofs who wave the civility banner most fervently whenever we shame them by resisting instead of submitting are certainly in no hurry for us to be heard. Instead, they want us to be a herd, or rather, a flock of quiescent sheep, doing as we are told and writing them checks to support the conservative fight that never seemed to happen until we rejected them in 2016.
It’s not inconceivable that some people actually believe in “civility” as a principle instead of an intellectual ball gag. George W. Bush probably did. He was famously civil. He was so civil that when they were calling him “Chimpy McHitlerhaliburton” he just took it and remained super civil. And when they disrespected us, he took that too. For eight years. And after Obama wiped the floor with the selectively civil John McCain – he was always civil to Democrats and the media but not so much to us conservatives – W kept being civil, painting his veteran pics back in Texas as his new pal Barack ran roughshod over our rights. He was super-civil, right up until Trump beat that fat clump of Jeb! and suddenly W was not so civil anymore. He, and we, were bad people. Weird how everyone gets civility except us.
Keeping us from retaliating is a strategy. Remember how damaging it was to us to watch Bush, who many of us respected at the time, just take it? They want to normalize the acceptance of abuse so we learn our proper place – at their feet. So we get the saps and their civility policing.
How many times have you seen someone on our side fight back and have them called out by the Low-T Gang for being so, so, so…oh well I never! How many conservative warriors have you been informed are unacceptable because they actually fight back? As part of their relentless quest for peak civility, the Never Trump sissies called my novels People’s Republic, Indian Country, Wildfire and Collapse “appalling” for making liberals sad. Pardon us if we say, “Take your civility and shove it.”
Now, “civility” is a thing, it’s just not the thing they want – a set of handcuffs designed to keep us from punching back. As we have seen, for some people the “civility” flex is a bad faith scam, much like all the bad faith scams that define Conservative, Inc. But some folks really like civility, and wish it was the norm not to shut us up but because they think that would make for a better culture. Perhaps it would. But the big problem with the idea of “civility” is that the people honestly advocating it do not understand that real civility can exist only after victory. It is a construct that allows people to work together on contentious issues only after the really contentious issues – like who will be impoverished, enslaved and/or killed – are solved. Civility is not an end in and of itself. Rather, it is a means to facilitate the functioning of a civil society.
In a fight, civility is a good way to get your teeth knocked down your throat. Us normal people, most of whom have actually been in an actual fight in the real world instead of spending our lives in the curated utopias of academia and Conservative, Inc., get that. When we fight, it’s important – we’re serious about it. For the kind of people constantly wagging their spindly, girlish fingers at us for being mean to people who want to grind us into pulp, a “fight” is a catty rejoinder in some unread blog or a snarky Twitter riposte. This reflects the essential unseriousness of the establishment types whose fussy demands for propriety ignore that, for the rest of us out here in America, these issues have consequences beyond not getting invited to be on the next panel on some Princess Cruises ship’s Lido Deck.
So, spare us tiresome demands for unilateral rhetorical disarmament. If you want “civility,” you need a society where the left has been crushed. Until then, we’ll say whatever we damn well please however we want to say it, and if you don’t like it, we’ve got a really uncivil suggestion about what you can go do to yourself.
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I think Trump is civil. I don’t remember him ever tweeting that Pelosi should suck his dick.
I doubt he would would want her to, I certainly would not want her that close to me.
The Right has never fought back and it’s looking like they never will. The Conservative Boomers that used to run California let the Commie Boomers (and others) take it without much of a fight.
Reagan (although not a Boomer) let the Democrats get massive gains on Gun Control and Illegal immigration. I could go on listing lost battles. The reason for their position from what I have learned is: The narcissism, greed and being preoccupied with Hedonism are all factors. The other thing is their inherent trust (for the largess) of authority. Whether that authority is human or heavenly government.
Maybe a shift of the spiritual enlightenment will come in our lifetime and maybe not. People have been waiting forever for that to happen while living with the effects of letting the other side walk all over them.
Here’s another way of looking at it-
If you grow food and eat it, you spend a great deal of time on the production end of the equation.
If all you do is eat food, all of your energy goes into eating and none of it into producing- that’s someone else’s problem you needn’t concern yourself with.
That is the political paradigm of the last half century or more. The left spends 100% of its time eating and the right spends most of its time producing. Eating being the accumulation of political goals, producing being the appeasement of those who eat.
Too much free time has given folks the time to worry about everyone else’s “problems” rather than focusing on their own.
Host vs Parasite
Food prep and old-fashioned pressure-cooker canning is where the real action is!
Hardscrabble, that is a good analogy. As an off-grid homesteader I take some time to beat back the varmints who seek something for nothing, while respecting the sanctity of all life. The Varmints out in the cities have gotten out of hand.
The varmints in the cities simply vote for scumbags with the guns of government behind them to steal for them. At least the varmints in the country get off their asses and attempt to steal on their own.
Once again Kurt hits the nail squarely on the head. Whenever you hear a politician or similar creature warble about “civility”, you can be sure that it is either a leftist trying to keep you from pushing back against their criminal plans or a dithering, hand-wringing pantywaist, a Romneyesque bastard who pees in his panties at the thought of a real fight. Civility? The men who created America did not put much stock in “civility”. They tarred and feathered British government puppets tryhing to collect the Stamp Tax, at Kings Mountain they hanged the ringleaders of the Tory gangs terrorizing the countryside, and if you insulted them they called you out for a duel and shot you down like a dog. We were not very “civil” during the Civil War.
The call for “civility” is almost always juist what Kurt says it is, a means of disarming us, a way to feminize a debate.
No, you should not be civil to those trying to ruin your country, steal your property, and give our land away to strangers. You get in their faces, you let them know they are traitors and criminals, you call them what they are and dare them to resent it.
The next time some Karen or Kevin (apologies to real Karen’s and Kevin’s) starts whimpering that we are being mean to the likes of Stacey Abrams, Pelosi, Schumer, Whitmer, Murphy, Cuomo, Newsom, Garcetti, or Biden, tell them to go piss up a rope, and don’t use polite language – the will see that as weakness.
The only way we will win this war to save what is left of the country is to put the fear of God in these miserable scum, and you don’t do that by being “nice”. These people have to understand that we mean what we say, that they will never take control of our country, that we will see them in their graves before we will let them destroy the republic.
Civility is fine when practiced between honorable men who all accept fundmental principles and respect each other’s rights. When fighting Marxist thugs (and make no mistake, we are facing a Marxist insurrection in our country) all bets are off. They should be treated as rabid dogs, nothing else.
I enjoy history and one of the things that most interests me are the histories of Communist movements and, especially, the ones that failed. In every instance in which a serious Communist movement has been crushed, it has been through the application of unsparing brute force. Pinochet in Chile, the crushing of the Indonesian Communists,, Franco in Spain, the Greek Civil War, in all of them the Communist were hunted down and eliminated. There was no civility.
We should all hope it does not reach quite that point here. That said, if it does, do not let your hand tremble when you do what has to be done to drive these scoundrels back in their holes.
Well stated.
That is spot on, Sage. Wish I were that eloquent!!!
I am so tired of the Romney Rhino bullshit. If Romney had not been born into wealth and had a father who bought him his education and Bain Capital he would have been a greeter at Walmart in Utah. Please stop with the Romney stupidity.
I think some folks may be being played by Romney.
I don’t subscribe to the shallow, pop-culture analysis of Romney.
Do you think it’s just a coincidence he became governor of god-forsaken, utterly Democrat-dominated Massachusetts during the Catholic priest scandal/hoax?
Or that he was the ACTOR who played the pretend Republican opposition to Obama in the laughably staged 2012 election?
Of that he cast the single symbolic Republican vote for impeachment?
Or that his grand-daddy is a founding father among the Mormons?
He’s definitely acting, and I think he’s very likely a mole.
Mittens a mole…no he’s a boil on America’s ass
Bob…the only thing Mitten’s is good at is verbal hand-jobs …and perhaps regular hand-jobs as well .
Civility is something you have when discussing issues with someone who is NOT advocating the theft of your income, the destruction of your private property rights, the destruction of your medical freedom, the destruction of your family, the incarceration of your children, the destruction of your choices in the marketplace, the elimination of your right to self defense, and so, so, so much more.
I can have civil discussions with people about what’s for dinner, whether a movie is good or bad, and millions of other topics. But the minute you bring up politics, remember – I AM THE ONE ADVOCATING THE PEACEFUL POSITION, while you are advocating the one that entails violence and force. YOU are the one who has thrown away civility before the discussion even began.