NYC Is Dead Forever… Here’s Why

Guest Post by James Altucher

I love NYC. When I first moved to NYC, it was a dream come true. Every corner was like a theater production happening right in front of me. So much personality, so many stories.

Every subculture I loved was in NYC. I could play chess all day and night. I could go to comedy clubs. I could start any type of business. I could meet people. I had family, friends, opportunities. No matter what happened to me, NYC was a net I could fall back on and bounce back up.

Now it’s completely dead.

“But NYC always always bounces back.” No. Not this time.

“But NYC is the center of the financial universe. Opportunities will flourish here again.” Not this time.

“NYC has experienced worse.” No it hasn’t.

A Facebook group formed a few weeks ago that was for people who were planning a move and wanted others to talk to and ask advice from. Within two or three days it had about 10,000 members.

Every day I see more and more posts, “I’ve been in NYC forever but I guess this time I have to say goodbye.” Every single day I see those posts. I’ve been screenshotting them for my scrapbook.

Three of the most important reasons to move to NYC:

  • Business opportunities
  • Culture
  • Food

And, of course, friends. But if everything I say below is even 1/10 of what I think, then there won’t be as many opportunities to make friends.

A) BUSINESS

Midtown Manhattan, the center of business in NYC, is empty. Even though people can go back to work, famous office buildings like the Time-Life skyscraper are still 90% empty. Businesses have realized that they don’t need their employees at the office.

In fact, they’ve realized they are even more productive with everyone at home. The Time-Life Building can handle 8,000 workers. Now it maybe has 500 workers back.

(Midtown reopened, but still empty)

“What do you mean?” a friend of mine said to me when I told him Midtown should be called Ghost Town. “I’m in my office right now!”

“What are you doing there?”

“Packing up,” he said and laughed, “I’m shutting it down.” He works in the entertainment business.

Another friend of mine works at a major investment bank as a managing director. Before the pandemic, he was at the office every day, sometimes working from 6 a.m.–10 p.m.

Now he lives in Phoenix, Arizona. “As of June,” he told me, “I had never even been to Phoenix.” And then he moved there. He does all his meetings on Zoom.

I was talking to a book editor who has been out of the city since early March. “We’ve been all working fine. I’m not sure why we would need to go back to the office.”

One friend of mine, Derek Halpern, was convinced he’d stay. He put up a Facebook post the other day saying he might be changing his mind. Derek wrote:

“In the last week:

 

  • I watched a homeless person lose his mind and start attacking random pedestrians. Including spitting on, throwing stuff at, and swatting.
  • I’ve seen several single parents with a child asking for money for food. And then, when someone gave them food, tossed the food right back at them.
  • I watched a man yell racist slurs at every single race of people while charging, then stopping before going too far.

 

And worse.

I’ve been living in New York City for about 10 years. It has definitely gotten worse and there’s no end in sight.

My favorite park is Madison Square Park. About a month ago a 19-year-old girl was shot and killed across the street.

I don’t think I have an answer but I do think it’s clear: it’s time to move out of NYC.

I’m not the only one who feels this way, either. In my building alone, the rent has plummeted almost 30% — more people are moving away than ever before.

So…

It’s not goodbye yet. But a lifelong New Yorker is thinking about it.”

I picked his post out but I could’ve picked from dozens of others.

People say, “NYC has been through worse,” or “NYC has always come back.”

No and no.

First, when has NYC been through worse?

Even in the 1970s, and through the ’80s, when NYC was going bankrupt, even when it was the crime capital of the U.S. or close to it, it was still the capital of the business world (meaning, it was the primary place young people would go to build wealth and find opportunity). It was culturally on top of its game — home to artists, theater, media, advertising, publishing. And it was probably the food capital of the U.S.

NYC has never been locked down for five months. Not in any pandemic, war, financial crisis, never. In the middle of the polio epidemic, when little kids (including my mother) were becoming paralyzed or dying (my mother ended up with a bad leg), NYC didn’t go through this.

This is not to say what should have been done or should not have been done. That part is over. Now we have to deal with what IS.

In early March, many people (not me), left NYC when they felt it would provide safety from the virus and they no longer needed to go to work and all the restaurants were closed. People figured, “I’ll get out for a month or two and then come back.”

They are all still gone.

And then in June, during rioting and looting, a second wave of NYCers (this time including me) left. I have kids. Nothing was wrong with the protests but I was a little nervous when I saw videos of rioters after curfew trying to break into my building.

Many people left temporarily but there were also people leaving permanently. Friends of mine moved to Nashville, Miami, Austin, Denver, Salt Lake City, Dallas, etc.

Now a third wave of people is leaving. But they might be too late. Prices are down 30–50% on both rentals and sales no matter what real estate people tell you. And rentals are soaring in the second- and third-tier cities.

I’m temporarily, although maybe permanently, in South Florida now. I also got my place sight unseen.

Robyn was looking at listings around Miami and then she saw an area we had never been to before. We found three houses we liked.

She called the real estate agent. Place No. 1: Just rented that morning 50% higher than the asking price. Place No. 2: Also rented (by other New Yorkers. The agent said they came from New York for three hours, saw the place, got it, and went back to pack). Place No. 3: Available.

“We’ll take it!” The first time we physically saw it was when we flew down and moved in.

“This is temporary, right?” I confirmed with Robyn. But… I don’t know. I’m starting to like the sun a little bit. I mean, when it’s behind the shades. And when I am in air conditioning.

But let’s move on for a second:

Summary: Businesses are remote and they aren’t returning to the office. And it’s a death spiral — the longer offices remain empty, the longer they will remain empty.

In 2005, a hedge fund manager was visiting my office and said, “In Manhattan you practically trip over opportunities in the street.”

Now the streets are empty.

B) CULTURE:

I co-own a comedy club, Standup NY, on 78th and Broadway. I’m very, very proud of the club and grateful to my fellow owners Dani Zoldan and Gabe Waldman and our manager Jon Boreamayo. It’s a great club. It’s been around since 1986 and before that it was a theater.

One time, Henry Winkler stopped by to come on my podcast. He was the one who told me it had been a theater.

He said, “I grew up two doors down from here and used to perform here as a kid. Then I went out to LA to be the Fonz and now I’m back here, full circle, to be on your podcast. This place has history.” Things like that happen in NYC.

In the past year, Jim Gaffigan, Jerry Seinfeld, Tracy Morgan, and many others have been on the stage.

It’s only one step to get onstage. Jim Gaffigan fell flat on his face while he was walking up the step. The next day, on Seth Meyers’ late night show, Jim said, “I failed at the one thing you’re supposed to do — I couldn’t stand up!”

I love the club. Before the pandemic I would perform there throughout the week in addition to many other clubs around the city and, in the past few months, clubs in Chicago, Denver, San Jose, LA, Cincinnati, all over the Netherlands, and other places.

I miss it.

We had a show in May. An outdoor show. Everyone socially distanced. But we were shut down by the police. I guess we were superspreading humor during a very serious time.

The club is doing something fun: It’s doing shows outside in the park. This is a great idea.

In a time like this, businesses need to give to the community, not complain and not take.

That said, we have no idea when we will open. Nobody has any idea. And the longer we remain closed, the less chance we will ever reopen profitably.

Broadway is closed until at least the spring. The Lincoln Center is closed. All the museums are closed.

Forget about the tens of thousands of jobs lost in these cultural centers. Forget even about the millions of dollars of tourist-generated revenues lost by the closing of these centers.

There are thousands of performers, producers, artists, and the entire ecosystem of art, theater, production, curation, that surrounds these cultural centers. People who have worked all of their lives for the right to be able to perform even once on Broadway, whose lives and careers have been put on hold.

I get it. There was a pandemic.

But the question now is: What happens next? And, given the uncertainty (since there is no known answer), and given the fact that people, cities, economies loathe uncertainty, we simply don’t know the answer and that’s a bad thing for New York City.

Right now, Broadway is closed “at least until early 2021” and then there are supposed to be a series of “rolling dates” by which it will reopen.

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gatsby1219
gatsby1219
August 17, 2020 1:18 pm

Build a wall, quick. They will leave NYC and fuck up where ever they move to.

nikizel
nikizel
  gatsby1219
August 17, 2020 1:39 pm

Sad, but absolutely true. These people take their socialistic ideals with them. This is yet another reason the country is doomed.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  nikizel
August 17, 2020 3:13 pm

same here in fla.,they believe in big govt. & it’s benes–
what they don’t understand is that big biz funds both the welfare & big govt until it doesn’t,that’s when the real problems start,at least imo —

Call me Jack
Call me Jack
  nikizel
August 18, 2020 10:31 am

Flee what you helped destroy .Then vote Democrat.Kinda like a Omar that way.

Taras 77
Taras 77
  gatsby1219
August 17, 2020 1:44 pm

Agree but we in Idaho have the Californian invasions-to “f___ things up here as well.
It might be univerally toxic.

Tr4head
Tr4head
  Taras 77
August 17, 2020 5:01 pm

Maybe if the locals treat them like Gringos they will move somewhere else, like Venezuela.

Treefarmer
Treefarmer
  Taras 77
August 17, 2020 10:40 pm

Unfortunately, Boise is well on its way to becoming the Sacramento/Portland/Seattle/Olympia of Idaho. Controlling an otherwise good state from a sprawling urban/suburban liberal nightmare enclave. Time to move to Wyoming?

Glock 1911 M1A .308
Glock 1911 M1A .308
  Treefarmer
August 18, 2020 9:16 pm

Yep. and CDA is not far behind. The stench of liberalism is sickening there.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  gatsby1219
August 18, 2020 12:29 am

I hope these New Yorkers stay out of the Deep South. We’ve already had one invasion by them and that sucked as well.

Call me Jack
Call me Jack
  Vixen Vic
August 18, 2020 10:33 am

Ex New Yorkers shouldn’t be allowed to vote for 10 years.Ex “Jerseys” for 20.

anarchyst
anarchyst
August 17, 2020 1:48 pm

Been to New York City once and would never go back. People of average means who live in New York City will never own anything of value, especially real estate.
Renting a 300 square foot 6th floor walkup with an inoperative elevator for $3000 per month is no bargain and is only doing one thing–making some fat jew shylock landlord rich.
Of course, it may be possible to save some money by not needing a car, but what kind of lifestyle is that? The prohibition on self-protection is a major factor in NOT living in or even visiting NYC.
A rolled up newspaper can be considered to be a weapon by New York City’s “finest”. Attempt to defend yourself and you will be arrested and face charges. Quite often a person defending himself will face more serious charges than the criminal perpetrator.
The criminal prosecution of Bernard Goetz is a prime example of judicial misconduct and tyranny. He did the right thing by “taking out the garbage”. He would have been better off keeping his mouth shut…
New York City deserves everything it gets…

TXsodbuster
TXsodbuster
August 17, 2020 1:54 pm

Learn to code

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
August 17, 2020 2:03 pm

You might think that, as a Southerner, I hate New York City. Certainly, New York has little time for people like me or for my part of the country. The fact is, I love New York City, or did.
I will never forget the first time I drove from Washington to New York (I was a young Marine lieutenant and my sister worked for a major Manhattan publisher). As I drove north in New Jersey I suddenly came to a huge overpass in the highway. I can’t say exactly where. But I remember what I saw.
What could be more thrilling than that skyline, that beautiful, awesome AMERICAN picture of strength, and wealth and possibilities?
I spent that and many more weekends in the city over the next year. Over the course of my life I have visited more times than I can count. I have taken my family up just to walk the streets, go to the restaurants, see the sights, the typical gawking tourist (though I have enough sense to try to disguise it a bit).
As Mr. Altucher describes it, New York City was a magical place. I would walk for blocks and blocks. There was always something to see, something going on. And the food! I had never had a cheese blintz before or eaten in a real New York deli, with the lunchtime crowd yelling out their orders. At night you could literally choose the world for meals, like no other place on earth.
The shops, especially the small, unique shops specializing in obscure collectibles! I loved them! And only New York City could give them a real home.
Were there things that might annoy you? Sure. Parts of the city could have been cleaner, a lot cleaner. There were always a few lunatics about, but you learned quickly that first rule of city life: No Eye Contact. The subway was sweaty and crowded and none too clean. The gap between rich and poor was really an abyss. No place is perfect.
The people? New Yorkers have the reputation around the country for coldness, arrogance, toughness, and disdain for non-New Yorkers. I suppose there is truth in this but in all my trips to New York I never once encountered a hostile or rude person. People in a hurry, yes. People who expected you to state your business and get on with it, yes. People who minded their own business and ignored you, yes. But that is life in the city.
The girls? To be walking down Fifth Avenue, dressed to the nines because you just came from an important meeting, and to see the parade of gorgeous, well-dressed women walking past you? Heaven.
I fear that Altucher is right and I mourn for that lost city. There will never be another like it. You simply can’t reheat a soufflé.
The magic of New York City came from its role as the world’s financial center, together with London, another formerly magical place. The wealthy supported all those things that made it unique. When they leave, it is over, for good. As Altucher correctly notes, they will not be going back. They know it is over. Humpty Dumpty is in a million pieces and nobody will put him back together. The poor percentage of the population will rise steadily as the tax base contracts. The streets will become not just unsafe, but forbidding. The infrastructure, already in sad shape in many parts of the city, will continue to crumble.
I work in a specialized industry, very special. it has been dominated by a certain group in a certain part of Manhattan for 150 years, at least. I just learned that one of the biggest figures in our industry just said, to hell with it. He is now relocating to south Florida, like Altucher. Believe me. This is a bellwether. A year ago the thought of men like this leaving New York City would have been laughable, absurd. Well, they are leaving now.
Goodbye, New York City. It was great while it lasted. I will always remember you…

cz
cz
  Southern Sage
August 17, 2020 2:18 pm

In my half dozen or so trips to NYC i’ve had similar/great experiences. Philly? not so much…

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  cz
August 17, 2020 3:21 pm

I had the pleasure of visiting NYC about the same number of times – all paid for by my company. Every trip was great. Saw the Blue Man Group when they were still in a little theater down near the Village. Ate great food from dozens of great cultures. Watched clouds flowing up the side of the Empire State Building from the observation deck at night. Walked from the park to the Battery several times both during the day and at night. Saw Stanley Jordan play from about 5 feet away at the Blue Note in the Village. Glad I had the chance to see some positives of the city before it went to hell.

Tr4head
Tr4head
  MrLiberty
August 17, 2020 5:05 pm

Somebody hates Stanley Jordan or the Empire State Building?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Tr4head
August 17, 2020 5:55 pm

Or they can’t find positive things in NYC no matter what. Stanley Jordan really went downhill, but when I saw him he was incredible.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Southern Sage
August 17, 2020 3:42 pm

Sage – I have had similar experiences in NYC. I always found most of the people to be nice and even helpful to people who were obviously tourists. Just like Seattle and San Francisco, I am glad I got to see them in their glory before the leftists ruined them.

Fernando Escobar
Fernando Escobar
  TN Patriot
August 17, 2020 4:38 pm

The leftist have always been there to ruin the city, only difference now is that the good people holding the city afloat and decent (if that is possible) have left and may never return.

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
  Southern Sage
August 17, 2020 4:49 pm

I always told anyone that would listen to me that if I were wildly rich then I’d live in a big apartment right on Central Park. To me, NYC was the way a big city should be. The problem with modern big cities (Phoenix for example) is that they are really just suburbs joined together. All that said, I wouldn’t live in NYC now not even if you paid me to live in that apartment on Central Park.

I’m glad I got to see it in its glory.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  NickelthroweR
August 17, 2020 5:58 pm

I ate at a wonderful Indian restaurant on Central Park south once that overlooked the park. What an incredible view over dinner. Waking up and looking out over the park from high above, especially over the Pond area at the south end in spring time or even winter time, must be wonderful. Sadly, John Carpenter’s “Escape from New York” is more like what the future holds for that place.

Call me Jack
Call me Jack
  NickelthroweR
August 18, 2020 10:35 am

Too bad we can’t have biplanes strafing Mayor DeBlasio like poor King Kong. He is far more destructive.

Ben Lurken
Ben Lurken
  Southern Sage
August 17, 2020 5:05 pm

When I took my daughter to NYC for college visits in the nineties my plan was to make sure she saw the NYC that would make her want to leave and never come back. By the end of that trip I was hoping she would consider NYU and Merrymount.
When I fly between Boston and Charlotte and other points south I am always blown away at the NY skyline.
RIP for the city that never sleeps.

Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest
August 17, 2020 2:42 pm

That scumbag koksukka Comrade Bill De Blasio is so proud of his “achievement”.

God will punish him for what he has done to Auntie’s beloved NYC!

Machinist
Machinist
August 17, 2020 2:45 pm

James A., While you’re in the South, keep your trap shut at all times.
Self quarantine, just because.
Become invisible.
Don’t vote at all in any election.
One day, awaken with the notion that you don’t know why you’re here.
Leave.
Try Vancouver WA.
Did I mention that you need to leave?

jacklord66
jacklord66
August 17, 2020 3:32 pm

“I get it. There was a pandemic.”

No, there wasn’t.

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
August 17, 2020 4:23 pm

The original is longer then what TBP included and is worth a read. The author’s conclusion whacked me on the side of the head, even though it seems obvious. While NYC came back after past catastrophes like 9-11, something is different this time. That something, according to the author, is broadband.

Thanks to high-speed broadband people don’t need to live in dense environments any longer to make the connections they need for their jobs and careers. They don’t need to put up with the negatives of a big city like NY or LA so they can ply their trade. Now you can live in the suburbs or 1000 miles away in the country and be more productive, enjoy your life more, and not put up with the indignities of a place like NYC.

The future is going to look very different than the recent past and that will be a good thing.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Trapped in Portlandia
August 17, 2020 6:01 pm

A lot of businesses are discovering that the lack of close interaction between people, brainstorming, etc. over coffee, the conference table, out on the production floor, etc. is having an impact (as one would expect). Remote will work for some, but close proximity will still be required. But that doesn’t mean any of it has to look like cramped urban hell holes.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  MrLiberty
August 17, 2020 10:54 pm

Not in IT. 80% of the productive capacity at home far exceeds having 100% in a huge, leased office space with high OPEX. And cloud has only made it that much more feasible. CRE is dead. Permanently dead in terms of what this country knew. I could see knocking a lot of it down and replacing it with urban farming or something. Otherwise, think of the population of 1 million in Rome falling to 50k in 200-300 years – when people were far less mobile.

TiP is right. I have Gigabit fiber and any rational person would say I live in the sticks.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Articles of Confederation
August 18, 2020 12:04 am

IT isn’t manufacturing or design. But I agree that some will make it happen quite easily. The reality of course is that you still don’t need 5 floors on 5th Avenue ANYWHERE to make productivity in groups happen. People are in NY for the prestige, the “culture,” the food and the proximity to the money. Once all that disappears, beautiful lakefront living outside Denver will be just as appealing.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  MrLiberty
August 18, 2020 2:31 pm

All of that manufacturing and design is entirely dependent upon IT now, from robotics to infrastructure as code. You can’t do the manufacturing at home, but you can design circuits at home.

This is a repeat of the Roman reactions to Diocletian’s wage and price controls times 100. And it will move exponentially faster. American megacities will look like a cross between Thundarr the Barbarian and Detroit in 20-25 years.

The Boomers have been holding onto the 20th century for far too long and the rest of us have allowed it. From centralized, Soviet-style food supply chains (and without the rail transport!) to unsustainable energy consumption (big cities, wars, commuting, trucking), it’s all going to burn down. Decentralization and local production is where things are headed. Gigabit is a major part of that trend. I live in the country and have faster Internet service than most people in NYC and DC.

Tr4head
Tr4head
August 17, 2020 5:13 pm

“Nothing was wrong with the protests but I was a little nervous when I saw videos of rioters after curfew trying to break into my building.”

Not sure when that dawned on you. Nice article but please dont support riots or “peaceful protesters” wherever you decide to bring your NYC values. My sister has lived in Miami since 1979 and cant stand what New Yawkers have done to their local politics.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Tr4head
August 17, 2020 5:19 pm

Peaceful protests…until they reached “his” building.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Tr4head
August 17, 2020 10:51 pm

No one wants the New Yorkers. They may buy and relocate sight unseen, but when SHTF and they still have those shitty accents they’ll be easily shunned. At best they need 5 years to assimilate, assuming they even understand the meaning of the word. They’re fucked.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Articles of Confederation
August 18, 2020 12:05 am

Well, because most have no idea how to fend for themselves, they will certainly not be ones to help out a neighbor or come together as a community. The only “community” they know is sitting on the Condo board keeping the “undesireables” out.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  MrLiberty
August 18, 2020 2:42 pm

And that’s fine. City slickers will be easy pickings for the mobs’ rage.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 17, 2020 6:16 pm

If you think you’ve got something good going on, then you really need to spread it around. All around the U.S. All around the different countries of the World. Keeping it in one place, in one city, is not the way to go. Because all cities change, sometimes a lot. And in the end, however long it may be, all cities die.

James the Deplorable Wanderer
James the Deplorable Wanderer
  Anonymous
August 17, 2020 8:02 pm

There is nothing good about socialism. And the rural murder rate is going to go through the roof.
Imagine you live in a nice, small town somewhere, just minding your business, living your life like the last three or four generations of your family. Over the years, you and your family have built businesses, raised kids the correct way, even taken on a little politics when your uncle had a beef with the Tax Assessor and decided, accurately, that he could do a better job. Your father ran for mayor on the same principle, and on the third try won it. Twenty years of sane, fiscally responsible management made your town a Nicer Place to Live.
Now, because of COVID, twenty thousand displaced liberals had to move, and this lot chose YOUR town. They want everything they had back there, NOW, and really don’t care about doing anything right. They keep trying to schedule BOND elections, when your town doesn’t have any debt, and support every trendy, brainless fad like they did back there. They want to turn your Nicer Place to Live into Decaytopia II; and they vote. You are hearing rumors they want to run one of their own for mayor, someone who will go along for money and power and don’t give a damn what the natives, some here eight generations, think about it.
Wouldn’t you be tempted to send a few to hell to warn the others what the limits were? Don’t you think your friends and neighbors are thinking the exact same thing?
The destruction of an established community by outsiders with no skin in the game – isn’t that exactly what INVASION means? Does it matter if they have the same nation, same citizenship? Why?

Treefarmer
Treefarmer
  James the Deplorable Wanderer
August 19, 2020 4:20 pm

So that’s why I feel I’m always outnumbered!

overthecliff
overthecliff
August 17, 2020 6:57 pm

Destroying property and stealing stuff is just a peaceful demonstration. More specifically, destroying my property and stealing my stuff is a crime. At this point there must be some agreement on definitions. I’m in no mood to compromise.

Diaperless in NH ILuvCO2
Diaperless in NH ILuvCO2
August 17, 2020 8:41 pm

SeeBee, are you ok?

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Diaperless in NH ILuvCO2
August 18, 2020 1:19 am

Glad to see others have concerns about some they have met on TBP. I’ve seen some come and seen some go and some of them to the great beyond. Some great and some just characters. Are you ok Llpoh?

Hans
Hans
  overthecliff
August 18, 2020 6:21 am

What ever happened to boatguy? He die too?

Glock 1911 M1A .308
Glock 1911 M1A .308
August 17, 2020 9:59 pm

City folk whine about stupid shit. Just don’t bring your degenerate ideologies out here.

Shinmen Takezo
Shinmen Takezo
August 17, 2020 10:47 pm

Here’s the solution for New York City…. nuke it from orbit.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
August 17, 2020 10:48 pm

I don’t want to hear it. NYC in conjunction with DC is responsible for the collapse of this nation. War profits and bailing out the primary dealers. That’s all they ever cared about, and now the party’s over. Fuck ’em.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Articles of Confederation
August 18, 2020 12:10 am

My finding enjoyable things about NYC most certainly doesn’t change my opinion of the place overall. Same with my love of the Pacific ocean, the beaches in Malibu, the wonderful Anza Borego Desert, the Redwoods, or a great Irish Coffee at the Buena Vista at the end of Market Street in SF changes my opinion of what a shithole that state has become (I was born there and lived my first 35 years there). Some wonderful things exist in places despite plenty of other negatives.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  MrLiberty
August 18, 2020 2:44 pm

God exists everywhere and in all things, indeed. That being said, NYC is a testament to Man’s unending desire to worship himself. As they sow, so shall they reap. They’re due and regardless of my schadenfreude, karma has a vicious bite.

I’m from the DC Metro and was downtown every weekend, even when I wasn’t working there. I took it for granted every time I’d drive down Constitution. It doesn’t necessarily follow that I’d be as “patriotic” as I was on 9/11 if a meteor wiped it off the map. NYC and DC have caused a TREMENDOUS amount of pain to citizens and foreigners alike, whether they know it or not. There is a price for committing such heinous deeds.

Jim
Jim
September 26, 2020 9:26 am

Just don’t move from new york and vote for the same type of people who ruined your hometown!