Guest Post by Paul Craig Roberts
Bob Woodward writes that Trump’s Secretary of Defense, General James Mattis, and Trump’s Director of National Intelligence, Dan Coats, spoke together about taking “collective action” to remove President Trump from office. General Mattis said Trump is “dangerous. He’s unfit.”
This is the same thing that the Generals and the CIA said about President John F. Kennedy.
When Generals and the CIA say that a president is unfit and dangerous, they mean he is dangerous to their budget. By “unfit” they mean he is not a reliable cold warrior who will keep hyping America’s enemies so that money keeps pouring into the military/security budget. By serving defense contractors instead of their country, generals end up very wealthy.
Both Kennedy and Trump wanted to normalize relations with Russia and to bring home US troops involved in make-war operations overseas that boost the profits of defense contractors.
To stop Kennedy they assassinated him.
To stop Trump they concocted Russiagate, Impeachgate, and a variety of wild and unsubstantiated accusations. The presstitutes repeat the various accusations as if they are absolute proven truth. The presstitutes never investigated a single one of the false accusations.
These efforts to remove Trump did not succeed. Having pulled off numerous color revolutions in which the US has overthrown foreign governments, the tactics are now being employed against Trump. The November presidential election will not be an election. It will be a color revolution.
See, for example, https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/09/08/democrats-have-planned-a-coup-if-trump-wins-reelection/ and https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/09/10/the-democrats-are-fronting-for-the-cia-deep-states-color-revolution/ .
We have reached the point in the demise of our country that a simple statement of obvious truth is not believable.
As a number of carefully researched and documented books, some written by insiders, have proved conclusively, the CIA has controlled the prestige American media since 1950. The American media does not provide news. It provides the Deep State’s explanations of events. This ensures that real news does not interfere with the agenda.
The German journalst, Udo Ulfkotte, wrote a book, Bought Journalism, in which he showed that the CIA also controls the European press.
To be clear, there are two CIA organizations. One is an agency that monitors world events and endeavors to provide more or less accurate information to policymakers. The other is a covert operations agency. This agency assassinates people, including an American president, and overthrows uncooperative governments. President Truman publicly stated after he was out of office that he made a serious mistake in permitting the covert operations branch of the CIA. He said that it was an unaccountable government in inself.
President Eisehnower agreed and in his last address to the American people warned of the growing unaccountable power of the military/security complex.
President Kennedy realized the threat and said he was going “to break the CIA into a thousand pieces,” but they killed him first.
It would be easy for the CIA to kill Trump, but the “lone assassin” has been used too many times to be believable. It is easier to overthrow Trump’s reelection with false accusations as the CIA controlls the American and European media and has many Internet sites pretending to be dissident, a claim that fools insouciant Americans. Indeed, it is the leftwing that the CIA owns. The rightwing goes along because they think it is patriotic to support the military/security complex.
After the CIA overthrows Trump, they will use Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and their presstitutes to foment race war. Then the CIA will ride in on the Pale Horse, and the population will submit.
The scenario is unfolding as I write.
Very few will believe it until it happens. Even then the CIA’s ability to control explanations will keep the population in hand.
In America today, liars have more credibility than truth tellers.
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All of this is based on the idea that he is ‘not one of them’. Who has benefited from the military actions the USA has taken for many decades? Who owns the media, the banks, unholywood, the US politicians(or at least enough to always get what they want)? Who is the only race of people to who have a special word for those that don’t much care for them? Who has their fingerprints all over 9-11, the US Liberty attack, and god only knows what else?
Now the only question you need to ask is has Trump publicly stated how much he loves these unnamed people many times? As a matter of fact many of his children have married these unnamed people.
Gotta be those pesky Norwegians.
We pay them to abuse us because we like it. Like a battered wife, we see the abuse as a sign of love.
https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israel-funds-americas-israel-lobby-while-u-s-taxpayers-pay-for-endless-fraud-against-themselves/
This is one of many article on Mattis wanting to take collective action. I lookd up what is collective action… according the Wiki:
“Collective action refers to action taken together by a group of people whose goal is to enhance their condition and achieve a common objective.[1] It is a term that has formulations and theories in many areas of the social sciences including psychology, sociology, anthropology, political science and economics…….”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_action
I believe there is another term for Mattis and Coates discussion, AG Rosentein and and Mueller’s team, its called Treason.
Why can’t anyone come to terms with the treasonous nature of Trump’s staff.
It’s called sedition, not treason.
Treason is when you collaborate with an enemy during wartime.
Sedition is when you try to undermine or overthow your own country’s government.
Kid, you are right, from what I have read the past few days, the word sedition was primarily used to describe these DC creatures.
Seems to me the article is based on conjecture and an opinion rather than facts. Give us facts, names and cold hard proof any of this is true. Other than that it is a fairy tale cooked up by the same folks that produce the MSM. JMO
505,
Put ” CIA known covert actions” in your search engine and you’ll find more than a lifetime of reading. How hard is that?
Yes of course, the CIA is responsible for all of it and Captain Bone Spurs draft dodger and wounded innocent victim of the deep state has no control OVER anything as Commander In Chief, has increased military spending in full cooperation with his neocon friends in congress .
Yeah got it!
I understand what you are suggesting here Steve. The problem, as I see it is, we have a lot of dialog and opinion but no action. Heck, all of what is going on could be because of the CIA and or any of the other alphabet soup agencies. The question is, when is the general public going to say ENOUGH. As we keep kicking this can around the asshats are moving forward with the undermining of this country pure and simple.
O.T.
Suggesting we should do or discuss doing something about it elicits howles of indignation of such force that if ever applied to a solution the problems would have been solved 10 years ago. I’ve never seen such resistance to being freed from bondage outside East Germany.
Fleabaggs, are you suggesting that I am angry and in denial and prefer bondage? If that is the case then offer a solution to the issues that have been kicked around here for the last ten or so years. If what you say is true about the howls of indignation then we are all guilty of it. Angry I am not. Concerned for our country I am, just as you are as far as I know. I would like to see more solutions proposed rather than plowing the same old ground. Continued moderation or denial of this countries direction or situation is dangerous as well.
O.T.
I should have put sarc at the end. I was referring to my own tarring and feathering each time I ask what we are doing about it or suggest that waiting is suicide.
I have been mocked and attacked from a wide range of readers here for suggesting we start planning something, anything.
In that case I have your back. I mean no disrespect to you or anyone posting here. However, with respect to you I suggest you don’t allow yourself to be tarred by anyone that can’t offer a solution to a problem or problems that has been worn thin by discussion and time.
In your support I am with you on the lets get it done and over with. We will all suffer less, bleed less and in the end cry less if we learn to stand up now and stop being so politically correct.
God be with you Fleabaggs and thank you for the response. OT
O.T.
It reminds me of group therapy where they discover ever more symptoms of their disorder until they become so unique that not even God can help them.
OT 505,
I agree 100%. The cowardice shown by the general population is heartbreaking.
Went shopping again all day today. I saw about 3 people without face diapers here in FL where there are only suggestions to wear the goddam things.
WTF is the matter with people?
Maybe 1,500 years of conditioning us to be meek sheep in need of a Semitic shepherd has something to do with it.
From the bogus ‘Orange Man Victim of Deep State Dept.’
“By “unfit” they mean he is not a reliable cold warrior who will keep hyping America’s enemies so that money keeps pouring into the military/security budget.”
Is that why the first thing Trump did when he got in office was to increase the MIC budget by $70 billion dollars? Oh, okay. Trump has not vetoed any military spending bill put on his desk by the blood thirsty neocons in congress, he signed it with glee and joy. He started another bloated boondoggle, the fourth branch Space Force. He vetoed a bi-partisan bill that would end US support in Yemen and gave Saudi Arabia billion of dollars in arms deal with said arms made by the very MIC that PCR say’s is the enemy of Trump. No complaint from Trump on cutting the already rich MIC a Covid-19 check to the tune of $20 billion.
“”Both Kennedy and Trump wanted to normalize relations with Russia and to bring home US troops involved in make-war operations overseas that boost the profits of defense contractors. “”
Is that why Trump brags about the sanctions he’s put on Russia, confiscated Russian property in the US, and keeps moving NATO troops into eastern Europe and increasing weapons and arms in the region to provoke Russia? Maybe that’s why he sanctioned Germany for doing business with Russia? Yeah, he really wants to normalize with Russia.
PCR, wrote this shit for dumbasses that can’t think…….we call them Trumptards for short. There’s a reason PCR doesn’t allow comments on his own site. People smarter than his targeted audience would bury him with the truth and facts, thereby proving him to be a propaganda asset for Trump’s Orwellian ‘Ministry of Truth’.
Seriously, would you mind explaining how anything you have written negates or eliminates:
“Bob Woodward writes that Trump’s Secretary of Defense, General James Mattis, and Trump’s Director of National Intelligence, Dan Coats, spoke together about taking “collective action” to remove President Trump from office. General Mattis said Trump is “dangerous. He’s unfit.” ”
Or Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Milley’s and United States Secretary of Defense Esper’s insubordinate comments of late.
Thanks, just trying to get the players and the teams right in my head.
Joe
Bob Woodword writes, Bob Woodword writes, Bob Woodword writes, Bob Woodword writes,
Those are merely accusations written by one man and one man alone. Is there any proof outside of Woodwords book alone? Did you hear it from Mattis, or from Coats? No you didn’t. But if you heard something fro Low IQ-Anon you’d probably believe that one. Evidence is evidence. It’s not a trait found in statist Trump cultists.
Now, would you mind explaining how anything you or Woodword wrote negates or eliminates what I wrote?
You are right, just one man’s writing, just like PCR’s. I guess they are both full of shit. But then by this reasoning everyone’s writing is. Who, in your opinion, should we be reading as truthful?
You did not bother to acknowledge Milly’s or Asper’s comments made in the MSM. Any comment?
As far as negating or eliminating the argument that you wrote, not my job. It’s your argument.
As far as Q-whatever, again your argument, have at it.
Again, I am trying to get the players and teams right. Without actually having control of the panopticon, it’s tough. I have to put my picket pin down somewhere. I may have to move it with new information, but right now it is placed closer to PCR than most other “sources.” YMMV.
Thanks,
Joe
“You are right, just one man’s writing, just like PCR’s.”
WRONG:
I just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that PCRs claims are false and did so with proven facts. With Woodword I said it wasn’t known for sure because it’s just him saying it in a book. As far as Milly and Asper, they are not part of the discussion nor mentioned anywhere in the article. That’s your argument. Why was it my job to bring them up? You asked me to negate the words in the article written by PCR and I did, then you tell me in another comment that PCR is full of shit. What kind of dope are you on son?
If negating my argument is not your job, then why is it my job to negate yours? Your argument not mine. You want to put your picket pin down with PCR, yet I proved PCR to be wrong. You asked me to negate. I did. I said, “Your turn now” to negate, you say not my argument but mine. Double standards much? Are you finished your studies of Saul Alinsky? You sound just like him. Nice try though, maybe you should re-read his book, then I still beat your ass.
The issue that PCR was addressing is at a minimum, sedition and quite possibly treason at the highest levels of our active and retired military and FedGov bureaucracies.
Have you read what Col. Lawrence Wilkerson Ret. and his Transition Integrity Project have been war gaming for this coming Presidential election? They appear to be preparing for a hot coup d’e’tat come November. So please stop with all the petty name calling, strawman argumentation and pretentious posturing . We have real problems ahead of us. The least of which is whose dick is bigger.
Is that simple enough a statement of the problem for you?
Out.
Straw Man Argument:
A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent’s argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be “attacking a straw man.”
The typical straw man argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted or defeated an opponent’s proposition through the covert replacement of it with a different proposition (i.e., “stand up a straw man”) and the subsequent refutation of that false argument (“knock down a straw man”) instead of the opponent’s proposition.
Whoa, Whoa,Whoa! I didn’t do no strawman, you did. See definition above. Example, look how you replaced my argument with another not presented by me. Such as this in your second post;
That is replacing an existing argument with another (a strawman). That is a strawman argument because it is different from my existing post that proves PCR wrong in his claim that Trump is a victim of the MIC instead of part of the MIC. Then when you ask me to negate a quotation in the article I do. Then when I ask you to negate what I stated with facts, you say “not your job”. And another strawman tactic is your mentioning of the Transition Integrity Project. WTF has that got to do with my original comment that Trump is not at odds with the MIC as PCR claimed, he is in collaboration all the way with them as I clearly proved. Your mentioning of Transition Integrity Project has not a damn thing to do with that. You supplant an original topic with another. That is the epitome of a strawman argument.
For the love of god, Get some help!
SiaC,
Everything occurs in shades of gray. The Presidency hardly sits atop the power structure in the US. More like a third tier in the pyramid of power will you find the Presidency.
I’m no Trumptard but I do give the guy a little credit. FUNDAMENTALLY, I see Trump as a patriotic man. I believe he would PREFER to bring the troops home but he also is a realist and has self preservation of himself and family as a core tenant.
As Chuckie Schumer said “the CIA has 6 ways from Sunday to get back at you”. Visions of JFK’s fate have probably crossed his mind a time or two.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, is an apt phrase.
Again, I carry no water for Trump but I see SOME attempt of containment of the MIC that wouldn’t be present in a Killary or Biden administration. Unfortunately, that is about all we can hope for and realistically expect.
PCR and Pat Buchanan write articles for Boomer and Silent Generation geriatrics who are on daily opiates and still don’t notice the Matrix.
There is more to this than MIC money machine.
Sundance is a retarded Trump shill who still pumps 2016 talking points like “Trump is America’s first outsider President.”
It figures Paul Craig Roberts would latch on to this garbage.
PCR’s shitbird columns, Sundance giving Trump butt-to-mouth, and the Republican faggot patrol really have this mess covered.
I bet the Constitution will not be saved by the invisible Oath Keepers and gay college conservatives;
God what a faggoty looking bunch. The right is getting to be just as snowflakish as the left now.
They dress like someone full of self loathing, just like the Left. HHhhmmm, I wonder. You don’t suppose the right has been moved so far left we are now left of center do you?
I do.
You talk too much about gay stuff. Some kind of guilty issue with you?
And they tell me Biden is senile. He has nothing on this nursing home Commando.
We haven’t had a constitution since it was written because it was written to be violated by Lawyers and other chattering classes.
Blaming this mess on the CIA and democrats is just more Mal-information from the Dis-information machine. Meanwhile they surround us. 30 of the Washington fires are man made, Cow doctor just posted more of what’s happening in real life. They have taken the big cities to use as bases and now they are spreading out on hit and run ops with impunity because our government is in on the Hoax.
Meanwhile we Jawbone about how dead or alive the constitution is.
No arguing your last two sentences.
None.
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The truth about Mountain Meadows, Utah: (Jerry Skinner Documentary)
.22 you post more garbage, miss-information, lies, lunacy, shit flavored Mormon/Mathis Kool aid, and general crap then any one poster on the Platform on Fire.
Brigham Young – The Worst Mass Murder in American History
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Spend 15 minutes on the vid and understand the documented history of the murderous cult you are lost in, and the lunatic Brigham Young.
They should have executed Young, and all the Mormons who committed these horrific cold blooded crimes, instead of the fall guy Young suckered into taking his and their fall.
But don’t worry, they all have long answered for their clubbing’s, stabbings, and shootings of entire families of men, women and children, and the theft of their entire wagon train.
Mention Mountain Meadows and winny refuses to respond, every fucking time.
Brigham Young and his Mormontard band of murderers.
Flea,
I really don’t think there are many on TBP who would disagree with you. Depression is running rampant?
PCR predicting that the U.S. and the Constitution have only 2 months left -seems he’s always the eternal optimist.
He’s only off by about 2600 months (2020-1803 =217; 217 x 12 =2604).
Riddle me this: How could the election of Donald Trump have taken the military industrial complex by surprise? Keep in mind we’re referring to the same cabal that took complete control after Kennedy and had five decades to consolidate it’s power with zero obstructions. The same cabal that conjured the technological chains by which we’re now enslaved. The same cabal that orchestrated 911 in order to facilitate the surveillance state.
Gates, Bezos, Musk, Trump, et al, are all front men. They’re paid actors and the entire shit-show is actual stagecraft on a grand scale; administrated by the technocrats via intelligence agency spooks.
Take off your blinders. Put aside your prejudices and your misplaced hope. Ask yourselves if what you are seeing more resembles reality or the plotline of a Marvel comic-book based movie.
Joe Biden versus the mighty Swamp-Drainer who hasn’t drained jack-shit? Give me a break. It’s all a complete farce. A waiting game. A stall tactic. A diversionary side-show as the real revolution commences unhindered.
These two books would support your theory.
Published in 2016.
Now this is older – 1992…it crystalizes everything in the Uncle Sam book…plus much more.
Here is the big picture vid of the 2nd book…oldie but goodie if you haven’t already listened and don’t want to read this amazing and detailed book.
Get the 600 page book that outlines the life (and times) of Alan Dulles. Tells the history of CIA’s predecessor and most tellingly the mind-set of the elites who ran (run) those operations. Informative and well worth the time needed to absorb it all.
The devil’s chessboard : Allan Dulles, the CIA, and the rise of American’s secret goverment
by David Talbot; HarperCollins Publishers.
Mark,
Great lecture. Thanks for posting
You bet Steve.
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Mattis can get popped anytime. He lives alone in Richland Wa.