Payments Forever, Amen

Guest Post by Eric Peters

How long will it be before people make monthly payments on toothbrushes? It’s not all that far-fetched when you consider that many are already making them on lawn mowers.

John Deere doesn’t even tell you what some of these cost in their advertisements; just how much you’ll pay each month. Probably because you really don’t want to know what they cost, that being a measure of what you cannot afford to pay.

Some of these ads do not tell you how many months you’ll be paying, either. The lure – tantalizing to the innumerate – being that it is “only $49 per month.”

Why, that sounds like a deal! I can afford that! Anyone can afford that. Which explains why so many cannot afford to buy anything. Including lawn mowers, which people used to regularly pay cash for, because lawn mowers didn’t entail monthly payments.

How about “0 percent financing” . . . for 60 months”?

This is for a riding lawn mower, mind. It cuts the grass. It does not fly. It doesn’t even move faster than a sprightly man can walk. It doesn’t have AC or even a stereo. It has a cupholder.

But it is “compliant” with all the latest federal emissions and saaaaaaaaaaaafety regulations and yes, these apply to riding lawnmowers, too. These include – so far – the “feature” that automatically shuts off the engine whenever the operator gets off the mower. Or mows on uneven terrain that causes his weight to shift, causing the underseat nanny to cut off the engine, which then coughs back to life as the operator’s cheeks resume equilibrium.

Mowers also automatically shut off when Reversed – unless a special key is turned or button held. It will not be long, surely, before back-up cameras and monitors are required – and along with them, more low, low monthly payments.

For the benefit of the innumerate, 60 months works out to five years of making payments. On a riding lawn mower. That is about two years longer than people used to make payments on cars – which now routinely take 72 months to pay off, by which time they have depreciated to less than half what you paid for them.

That $49/month riding mower? If financed for five years – at “0 percent interest” – your tab works out to just shy of $3,000.

For a freakin’ lawn mower.

No wonder people can’t afford to buy cars. They are making payments on lawn mowers!

Which may not even have a “John Deere” engine underneath the green (probably plastic) hood, either. “Deere” riding mowers sometimes come with Kawasaki or Kohler-made engines, not that there’s anything wrong with either. But it reminds me of back in the day when GM sometimes put Chevy engines in Cadillacs – without charging the Cadillac buyer Chevy money for them.

Some of these easy monthly payment deals include fuel-injected (and so, electronically controlled) engines – once again, for a lawn mower. Which accounts in part for Deere’s shyness about advertising how much these riding lawn mowers cost as opposed to what you’ll pay per month . . . for the next half-decade.

You can also get a Rollover Protection System – just like your convertible BMW and almost as expensive for just that reason. Which would be ok, if it were optional. It isn’t. And the cost is part of the deal.

Loans for small tractors with front-end loaders extend to 72 months – six years, for the numeracy-challenged. But the good news is . . . “0 percent” interest!

The bad news? The diesel engines in these small tractors are “Tier-4 compliant,” which means they are nearly as complex, maintenance-intensive and difficult to maintain yourself as the diesel engines used in on-road vehicles, like cars and trucks. Assuming you can find one with a diesel engine.

These things are off-road vehicles used intermittently rather than regularly. Whatever their “emissions” may be, they are almost certainly irrelevant in any meaningful air-quality or “climate-changing” way. One could perhaps form a factually valid argument about the need to wrap on-road diesel engines in regulatory Saran Wrap but doing the same to a diesel tractor that mostly just sits until there’s a hole that needs to be dug or a field to be cut is as pointlessly spiteful as forcing healthy people to walk around wearing Face Diapers.

But it’s why a small tractor requires a six-year-loan. It is also probably why Deere doesn’t even publish what the monthly payment is for this one. They do publish that you’ll be eligible for $3,900 off whatever the MSRP is, if that makes you feel any better about it.

It makes me feel poor.

PS: “Actual operating horsepower and torque may be less,” the fine print saith. Better read it. Also, that 10 percent down may be part of the deal and that “taxes, freight and set-up” could affect your monthly payment.

Which means, of course, that they will.

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21 Comments
brian
brian
March 28, 2021 12:15 pm

Couple this with unions. Where a guy on an assembly line stands/sits at their station and puts in half dozen screws with an air driver. Attaches a plate or part in the assembly process and makes $25 plus an hour not including ‘benefits’. Multiply this by a hundred needed for the assembly. No skill required, no education required, just sit here and run an air driven screw driver.

Weird how everything increases in price. I need more money. rinse and repeat.

I worked in a sawmill once. The less you worked the more money you got. bass ackward. Was on a auto-mini stacker for about two months… hated it, went back to the dry chain where you actually worked, with other workers.

It was union too… and it was the time I was a shop steward… for about six months. Then they asked me to ‘step aside’ because I wasn’t a union zombie.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  brian
March 28, 2021 11:26 pm

I worked in manufacturing my entire working life, and I have endless stories about unions. Here is one:

There was an assembly line of around 150 stations, 150 people doing individual tasks. The conveyor line could only move at the speed of the station that took the longest installing its widget, and the other stations had to wait. There were several of these assembly lines. I very quickly determined which station had the assembly process that took the longest, and immediately devised a means to do that process off the assembly line. I do not remember the exact figure, but it allowed the line to move something like 20% faster. Or an immediate savings of 30 man equivalents per line, and 6 lines or a manpower savings such that we were able to eliminate an entire line and then some.

Did the union shit hit the fan. Tough titty. I steamrolled over them, got rid of something like 200 union parasites, got rid of the ones that tried to sabotage the changes, and moved on. It took me almost no time to implement, and I moved on to the next boondoggle in that plant. I was there because the place was going broke owing to such stupidity as described. That one move – taking one operation off the assembly line – saved around $15 million a year, and took the company from loss making to break even. The previous management were scared shitless of the unions. Me, not so much, as I was there only to make urgent fixes before moving on to the next union run disaster. It was either my way, or close the place down.

Unions are set up to protect the lowest common denominator of their membership, and the viability of the businesses involved are not part of the equation. Fuck unions.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
March 28, 2021 12:25 pm

Simplify your life as much as humanly possible.

TomMacGyver
TomMacGyver
March 28, 2021 12:43 pm

Be the guy the dealer hates most; keep the old mower, lawn tractor, or whatever you call it… running as long as possible! THEN, buy the $3900.00 model a few years down the road used for $1200.00. Like the guy said; “…mostly just sits until there’s a hole that needs to be dug or a field to be cut…” is what these things do best. Taken care of, they’ll outlast YOU!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TomMacGyver
March 28, 2021 1:15 pm

Thats 3900 off the msrp. No where near the price of that unit

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  TomMacGyver
March 28, 2021 1:51 pm

Rent one when you need it or pay someone. Might be cheaper. Plant ivy.

fujigm
fujigm
  Glock-N-Load
March 28, 2021 2:47 pm

Forget the ivy. Go for moss. Green, soft, no mowing. Cool to lie on on a hot summer day. Retains moisture better than grass. It moves slowly (unlike ivy), but eventually smothers all that high-maintenance grass.

Ken31
Ken31
  fujigm
March 29, 2021 1:27 am

I love moss. I did not know you could do that. It must take a lot of water and shade.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  TomMacGyver
March 28, 2021 2:23 pm

Deere also mandates that any repairs MUST be done via the dealership and if you attempt them yourself you void the warranty. This is for their tractors, I don’t know about their lawn mowers. Ethanol destroys small engines, every year around springtime I have to take the carburetor off, clean and reinstall it for the damned mower to work. Mower is an ancient pushmower, propelled by….moi.

I have two family owned/shared tractor mowers, every time I go to use one there’s a flat or something wrapped around the blades or the battery is dead or the cable is loose or the blades wobble or some other problem. If I could rent a mower, and, whenever there was an issue I could drag it to the seller, I’d rent in a heartbeat.

Stucky
Stucky
March 28, 2021 1:13 pm

“How long will it be before people make monthly payments on toothbrushes?”

It happens millions of times every day. Or, hasn’t Mr. Peters seen people at the grocery store pay by credit card?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Stucky
March 28, 2021 11:27 pm

I was going to say the same thing. Plus AfterPay, etc.

Leah
Leah
  Llpoh
March 29, 2021 12:24 am

Correct. Months from now they are still paying for those groceries, with interest.

Ken31
Ken31
  Stucky
March 29, 2021 1:32 am

They got toothbrushes that spy on you and cost $300+.

fujigm
fujigm
March 28, 2021 2:43 pm

I live on the backside of the salvage curve. I am literally the last in line. I buy almost everything at or below salvage value. I evaluate before I buy,then I leverage my mechanical abilities to repair to functionality whatever I purchase. Being OCD, mechanical repairing things soothes my tormented soul. The 1998 Neon I picked up for $400 and 120,000 miles just rolled over 265,000 miles. A fuel pump, starter, 2 timing belts and a top end rebuild in between. The cam was junk (pitted), but has roller rockers so it will go another 50,000 miles. At which point the Pick and Pull (scrap yard) will give me $427 AND pick it up.

Everybody makes a choice….

Auntie K.
Auntie K.
  fujigm
March 28, 2021 3:37 pm

Schmart!

Gomer
Gomer
March 28, 2021 5:40 pm

I buy as little as possible new. Why take the hit and pay taxes(F financing Bidens regime). I have mowers,chainsaws and weed eaters coming out the wazoo. They were given to me because they would not start after 2 years. New fuel line, primer bulb, filter and maybe some carb work and they are ready to go.

Depressed Aussie
Depressed Aussie
March 28, 2021 10:50 pm

Had one of those John deere mowers come in our shop recently. really made to a budget even the differential casing is made of plastic. I was shocked to see it was actually made in America because it looked like something that came out of a Chinese slave factory. Avoid the new JD mowers like the plague!

Ken31
Ken31
  Depressed Aussie
March 29, 2021 1:35 am

Literally everything is financialized now. There is no profit in quality.

falconflight
falconflight
March 28, 2021 11:11 pm

Conspicuous consumption has a price. So many suburbanites with their tiny plots of land buy these contraptions due to laziness and appearances. I was still mowing an acre with a self propelled walk behind until two summers ago (Now almost 63 yrs old). I know that was a little kooky, especially considering the paddock is mostly on a fairly steep incline. Bought a Swisher Tow-Behind ($1.5k) to pull with my second hand ATV. No monthly payments.

gmpatriot
gmpatriot
March 29, 2021 9:15 am

New farm tractor at the homestead……1974 Ford 2000 with GASOLINE engine. Looked at the “junk” sub-compact tractors and just LAUGHED.