To Humbly Submit

Gust Post by Jeff Thomas via International Man

To Humbly Submit

Submission to the state is a time-honoured tradition, a concept supported by governing bodies since time immemorial.

In days of yore, men submitted to whichever member of the tribe was the mightiest in battle. By doing so, they stood a better chance of succeeding in battle, thereby diminishing the likelihood of their own death or enslavement.

Later on, as tribes became more tied to the land and communities sprang up, the idea of a strong leader still made sense. Not only might he do the best job of leading the protection of the town or village, he might also travel outside the community to attack other communities, bringing back spoils for all to benefit from. (Not too civilised, maybe, but still, the reasoning behind submission to the leader made sense.)

Later, settlements grew larger and, increasingly, many villages and towns would find themselves joined together collectively, under a national banner, with a single army to protect them. And, again, the leader would most likely be a fierce and formidable warrior. But a significant change was taking place. Whilst the warrior leader was away (sometimes for years), invading other communities, it was necessary to have leadership at home – administrative leadership. Predictably, this leadership also sought the loyalty and submission of the people.

There was a new wrinkle at this juncture as the administrative leadership did not have to prove itself repeatedly in battle to gain submission. It was expected merely due to the fact that the leaders held power over the people.

The expectation of loyalty and submission to a government simply because it is the government is an unnatural and invalid one.

Today, most leaders are primarily political rather than military, and even those who wear a military uniform almost never take part in actual battle, let alone lead the charge. For this reason, the original reason for loyalty and submission should be outmoded.

Why, then, does it persist? Well, in fact, it generally persists as long as there is prosperity and a people are prepared to tolerate dominance. However, should prosperity diminish dramatically, obeisance tends to diminish accordingly. At some point, the leaders conclude that they may be losing the submission of the people and need to reinforce it. This is done by one of two methods and, on occasion, both at the same time.

The first is force. An increased police state can create a greater assurance of submission through fear of those in uniform.

The second is inspiration. A condition of warfare often succeeds as a method of inspiring people to give up some of their rights and fall in behind a leader. Although, in the modern world, we never see a national leader actually suiting up for battle, the mere fact that he’s in charge of the fight from a safe distance often works to inspire people to be more submissive to an administrative government.

Following the English Revolution of 1688, we Britons found that our political leaders made the decision for us as to what our relationship should be to our new leaders at the time. They declared to the new joint monarchs, William and Mary, “We do most humbly and faithfully submit ourselves, our heirs and posterities, forever.”

Quite a mouthful. It certainly left no doubt as to the intent of Parliament – that the people of England were never again to question their rulers and, further, that regardless of any possible changes in policies, laws, and edicts by future kings, the people swore submission … permanently.

This did not sit well with all Englishmen – not surprisingly since they hadn’t been asked whether they wished to make such a declaration of submission. In 1774, an Englishman named Thomas Paine (on the advice of his American friend Benjamin Franklin) immigrated to the Pennsylvania colony and began writing pamphlets that dealt directly with the concept of “unquestioned loyalty and submission”, a concept with which he heartedly disagreed. Perhaps he stated it best in his book, The Rights of Man, first published in 1791:

“Submission is wholly a vassalage term, repugnant to the dignity of freedom.”

Mister Paine’s pamphleteering in the late eighteenth century did not actually create the consciousness that brought on the American Revolution, but his phrasings did provide focus for the colonists in stating their grievances against King and Parliament.

Although Mister Paine’s pamphlets served as guidebooks to liberty and his input contributed to the framing of the US Constitution, he’s not remembered today as one of the seven founders of the United States. But one of those who is recognised today as a founder, Thomas Jefferson, took a very similar view to that of Thomas Paine:

“When the Government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”

Both men believed that it was (and is) essential to assure that any government be reminded continually that it exists to represent the people who pay for its existence. They each echoed a view taken 2,100 years earlier by Aristotle, who commented,

“[G]overnment should govern for the good of the people, not for the good of those in power.”

Although these words were not quoted in either the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution, Aristotle’s principles were well-known to all of the Founding Fathers and were frequently the basis of clauses written in each of the US’s founding documents.

Another quote from Jefferson suggests that it’s entirely predictable that any government is likely to continually work toward increasing its own power over a people. That being the case, from time to time, any government needs to be slapped down and reminded that its task is to serve the people, not to subjugate them:

“Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government.”  

Here’s a final thought to consider:

The concept of government is that the people grant to a small group of individuals the ability to establish and maintain controls over them. The inherent flaw in such a concept is that any government will invariably and continually expand upon its controls, resulting in the ever-diminishing freedom of those who granted them the power. 

In reviewing all of the above, it should be clear that it’s the nature of all governments to seek to increase their power over those that they are sworn to represent. It should also be understood that they will not give up this power willingly. At some point, they become successful enough in establishing submission that the populace must either toss out the people in the government, toss out the governmental system, or take exit from the system. The last of these may be chosen in order to more peacefully regain liberty.

Each of these possible choices requires dramatic change, although the last of these entails less upheaval or danger to the individual.

The alternative to making such a choice, and the one that the great majority of people in any culture, in any era, choose, is to humbly accept submission. Only a very small minority will actually take positive action to attain freedom over tyranny through internationalisation.

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18 Comments
Nothing but the truth.
Nothing but the truth.
May 11, 2021 8:02 am

After people have surrendered and subjugated themselves to a communist totalitarian regime , their only option will be to shoot their way out of it.

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  Nothing but the truth.
May 11, 2021 9:54 am

If they have individuals & firearms in large enough numbers to do so. Don’t overlook the fact this is a global move to total control and not just a regional one. No one is coming to our rescue of freedom. It is our job to rescue ourselves. Just saying, unless I have missed something.

Stucky
Stucky
May 11, 2021 9:15 am

The article ignores submission as it relates to religion. Specifically, because we live in America … Christianity.

To all you snowflake Believers … NO, this is not a bash Christians post! But, when a person is taught to “submit” from childhood to adulthood, week after week for years and decades … then, you really ought to consider how easy it becomes to submit to government. Almost second nature, really.

“Hey, moran, the Bible is talking about submitting to GOD!!”, you might object.

True. But, not true enough.

Most here are familiar with Paul’s various declarations to submit to government throughout his writings, especially in Romans. Fewer are aware that even his arch nemesis, Peter, was just as adamant about submitting to government; —> “Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority …”

Strong stuff. Of course, it does not stop there. Submission is a huge Biblical theme starting with Eve submitting to Adam, and ending in Revelation where everybody is submitting to somebody. In between we have endless examples of submission whereby ANY ‘authority’ structure is involved; —> husbands, wives, parents, children, masters, slaves, and even Christ himself who submits to the Father.

And before you quick check your Concordance to tell me how many (or, few) times the word “submission” is in the Bible …. you must take into account that the principle of submission is expressed throughout Scripture without necessarily using the words ‘submit’ or ‘submission’. For example; “subordinate,” “obey,” “subject to,” “surrender,” “become weak”, “humble yourself”, just to name a few of the top of my head. The principle of submission is pervasive throughout Scripture.

Indeed, religion teaches that we are born in submission, that we will die having submitted to something, and are taught in between life and death to continually submit.

I’m guessing that must have an effect on why the vast majority of Americans are sheep, and their Shephard is not Christ, but Government.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
May 11, 2021 9:25 am

No Submission.

1) Daniel and friends did not submit to Babylonian King.
2) Paul ‘broke out’ of jail.
3) Peter ignored the orders to stop preaching the Gospel.
4) Moses mother saved him from Pharoah’s order to kill the babies.
5) Mary and Joseph saved Jesus from Herod’s order to kill the babies by taking him to Egypt.

Stucky
Stucky
  Stucky
May 11, 2021 9:38 am

Let me give you just one example of Christianity slavishly submitting without question to Daddy Government.

The quote below the dashed line comes from Christian Bible Reference — a reference site I have used often (But, not any more after having just found this.)

They answer the question “Should I wear a Mask? Should I be Vaccinated?”. They claim their answer comes from the Bible. Of course it does. (/s)

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“Should I wear a Mask? Should I be Vaccinated?”

YES! AND YES!! Both are common sense and simple actions everyone can take to protect themselves and protect other people.

Even if you are young and healthy, you can still be infected with COVID-19. You may not have any symptoms and may not even know you have it. But you can still infect other people nearby, including people in high-risk categories.

Wearing a mask in public and getting vaccinated helps to protect you, and also helps to protect other people who might get very sick or die from COVID-19.

Jesus taught that one of the most important of all commandments is, “Love your neighbor as yourself ” (Matthew 22:34-40, Mark 12:28-31, Luke 10:25-28, John 13:34-35). What could be more respectful and loving than wearing a mask and getting vaccinated to prevent accidentally infecting other people with a disease that could make them very sick or even kill them? (Romans 13:10)

Pranksters, mischief-makers, and attention-seekers have made up many untrue and even silly stories about the COVID-19 vaccines. Some of those stories have been repeated by large media outlets.

But, in reality, there is nothing sinister about the COVID-19 vaccines. Millions of people have been vaccinated and serious side-effects are extremely rare. The COVID-19 vaccines are recommended by all major health organizations.

Despite ethical concerns of some, all major Christian denominations also recommend vaccination.
In the US, COVID-19 vaccination is completely free for everyone, both citizens and noncitizens, even for people without insurance. As of April 19, 2021, everyone 16 and over will be eligible to receive vaccination in most states. That will apply to all states by May 1. It is being given by local health departments and many drugstores.

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https://www.christianbiblereference.org/Coronavirus_COVID-19.htm

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That there is what submission can lead to …. a bunch of sick degenerate bastards trying to usurp your freedom, even your life.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Stucky
May 11, 2021 3:29 pm

Sick stuff you found there…

Key point of Romans 13: Romans 13:3-4 KJB… “For rulers are NOT a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Rulers; be they mayors, presidents, kings or parents, are supposed to be a terror to that which is evil. They are godly people chosen by godly people to execute wrath upon those who would disturb peaceful godly existence. If I were not such a “ruler” myself (and I’m certainly not) I’d gladly submit to such a one. Seeing there are none, I submit myself to Christ alone.

When people turn from godly existence (rightly divided biblical understanding), what we see happening everywhere should be expected. Paul, as he always does, is explaining how things ought to function. He’s presenting Gods POV. When rulers become a terror to that which is good and godly, the time has come to select new rulers and evict the old.

That time has come and gone (as is also written) as the number of honestly godly people far underwhelm those who have turned from the Lord. It is literally just a waiting game now; the few doing what they can to see souls saved and saints edified, waiting on God to say enough is enough. His longsuffering grace is not infinite and justice must be (will be) served. The best we can work toward is solid small godly local government and this should be our focus. The few need to find one another and group together that we might support and protect one another. The essence of community government… to support and protect.

And Stucky, Peter and Paul were not enemies. They are on the same team, “Team Christ”, only with different functions; different instructions for different people at different times.

Stucky
Stucky
  grace country pastor
May 11, 2021 6:25 pm

I’m not going to listen to you, brian, GCP, etc.

From now on I’m getting my spiritual guidance from this young lady. She knows her stuff!!!! 14 seconds of Pure Insight.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Stucky
May 11, 2021 7:14 pm

Oh Lordy…What is so amazing about these brain washed idiots is their utter and complete denial of reality. The Onion and the Babylon Bee are no longer satire, they are reality…

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Stucky
May 12, 2021 9:38 am

Pure BS – the Bible clearly states that God create man (male) and then created woman (female). These snowflake Gen Zs are really screwed up.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Stucky
May 12, 2021 12:06 pm

How do you find this stuff… 🤣

Oh wait, I know… ze reads the queen james booble!

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Stucky
May 12, 2021 12:24 am

Stucky,

Ever realize that people use religion and the Bible in evil ways? False prophets?

Rusty Pipes
Rusty Pipes
  Glock-N-Load
May 13, 2021 2:09 pm

Amen to that.

Ken31
Ken31
  Stucky
May 11, 2021 10:18 am

Good points. Every corruption of the Word has consequences and at this point they are legion. For example, few understand the effects still resonating in our society from that heretic Calvin. You don’t need to burn critics at the stake if you are truly promoting the word of God.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 11, 2021 9:22 am

God wants his people to be free. JMO.

https://odysee.com/@EJOK:c/WIN_20210511_07_49_03_Pro:4

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  Anonymous
May 11, 2021 9:27 am

The people have to want to be ‘FREE’ as well. Can’t have one without the other in my opinion.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  oldtimer505
May 11, 2021 10:45 am

No argument. I do my humble best to change minds in my small orbit.

Ken31
Ken31
May 11, 2021 10:14 am

Why do such “International Men” worry themselves over such obsolete concepts as nations? /s

Rusty Pipes
Rusty Pipes
May 11, 2021 4:45 pm

It’s much easier to fool people, than to convince them they have been fooled. They are invested into a corrupt system with their money, their time, their whole lives. It is a great shock to realize everything you struggle and strived and worked for can be wiped out in one mouse click. You chose mammon, stop crying about it.