L. E. Thissell (TS)
I can’t remember exactly what year this was – I tend to remember by event, not date – but it was when the Navy first made the flu shot mandatory. I went along with it the first year because I was still young and naive, with a faith in the integrity of the armed forces and those who controlled them.
I became so sick from that shot that I nearly died. I actually ruptured the sphincter at the top of my stomach from such prolonged and violent vomiting.
The second year I refused the shot. The matter went from a polite refusal voiced to my immediate superior, my shop supervisor, via rapid escalation within a few days to where I was standing in front of the Air Wing Commander, a Captain whose name I don’t remember, explaining my insubordination.
The threats all the way up through the chain of command were clear and unambiguous – either I received the shot or I would lose pay and probably rank. At every stage my response was the same; if they did that, I would immediately go home. The Captain improved on that threat by stating that if I did I would be charged and court-martialed for insubordination and going AWOL, resulting in brig time and a BCD. I told him, in no uncertain terms though respectfully, that when they were done with me I would go home.
The Captain actually got red-faced and leaned forward on his desk and said that he would frog-march me out and into the brig right then and there if I refused one more time.
My response was, and I remember my exact words and the expression on his face very clearly, “Captain, if you try and give me another shot, ever, without my permission, you can go fuck yourself. The last one almost killed me and I will never allow it again. Do whatever you want. I refuse this shot.”
His jaw dropped and he stared at me for what seemed forever. My heart was slamming so hard I don’t know how I didn’t have a heart attack. I just knew I was screwed seven ways over Sunday. He shook his head and dropped back into his chair.
“Your serious.”
“Yes, Sir, I am.” I think what really convinced him was that my voice was definitely wavering, but I didn’t look away from his eyes for a moment.
He shook his head again, cocked it to one side, and said. “I’ll see to it that Medical is informed that you are exempt. Dismissed, Petty Officer Thissell. Get the fuck out of my office and I better never see you here again.”
I saluted and beat a very hasty retreat.
I believe it is time for everyone to embrace that same unyielding strength of principle. Be prepared for any and all consequences, or you might as well just concede right now and save yourself the inconvenience. It’s a harsh world and in my opinion, it’s about to get harsher.
Time to man up for real.
Following is the article that tripped this trigger.
Prepare for mandatory COVID vaccines in September, Army tells commands
The Army has directed commands to prepare to administer mandatory COVID-19 vaccines as early as Sept. 1, pending full Food and Drug Administration licensure, Army Times has learned.
The directive came from an execute order sent to the force by Department of the Army Headquarters.
Army Times obtained a portion of a recent update to HQDA EXORD 225-21, COVID-19 Steady State Operations.
“Commanders will continue COVID-19 vaccination operations and prepare for a directive to mandate COVID-19 vaccination for service members [on or around] 01 September 2021, pending full FDA licensure,” the order said. “Commands will be prepared to provide a backbrief on servicemember vaccination status and way ahead for completion once the vaccine is mandated.”
VA may force employees to get COVID vaccines
Department officials are checking on the legality of mandatory vaccinations.
EXORDS are utilized when the president directs the defense secretary to execute a military operation.
“As a matter of policy we do not comment on leaked documents. The vaccine continues to be voluntary,” said Maj. Jackie Wren, an Army spokesperson. “If we are directed by DoD to change our posture, we are prepared to do so.”
The Pentagon has not put out any guidance to the services to prepare for a mandatory vaccine roll-out in September, a defense official separately told Army Times.
It was not immediately clear whether the vaccines would even be approved in time for a Sept. 1 mandatory rollout. And an FDA spokesperson did not have an exact timeline available.
The ”timelines for vaccine approval may vary depending on a number of factors, but as Pfizer and Moderna announced, they have initiated rolling submissions of their biologics license applications for their COVID-19 vaccines,” said Alison Hunt, an FDA spokesperson. “As a general matter, FDA cannot comment on particular applications.”
Once the companies finish collecting biologics license application data on their vaccines, the FDA will take 60 days to review the applications for full approval, in accordance with the agency’s guidelines for priority review.
The Army currently has around 70 percent of its force vaccinated against the coronavirus, according to Army Lt. Gen. Ronald Place, director of the Defense Health Agency.
However, demand for the vaccine has fallen off in recent months across the military, roughly following a similar drop in demand among the American people.
The Veterans Affairs administration is currently weighing a plan to require all VA staffers to receive the vaccine, amid growing worry worldwide about the more severe Delta variant of the virus.
The Navy also recently told sailors to expect a mandatory vaccination program despite having the highest vaccine acceptance rate thus far.
Military Times Pentagon bureau chief Meghann Myers contributed to this report.
Clarification: should’ve been “Carrier Wing Commander” not “Air Wing Commander”.
Ah, crap; I just noticed.
“Your serious.”, instead of You’re. At least I beat the wannabe Grammar Nazis.
Remember, I studied under Grammarmeister Oberst EC, the bane of all who would commit grammar derelictions.
He was ruthless. Not necessarily Ruth-less though.
Nice.
See, one downvotster is all in a snit because I took away his/her/its opportunity to try to one-up me. So solly, mebbe next time.
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Sounds familiar.
Praise the Lord for someone, like the gentleman speaker in the video from AfD, who is able to shove the imbecilic nonsense bullshit right back in their faces.
Bravo!
You left out ‘Bent’. Covers a lot of ground it does.
Welp, my pronouns are…’Yes, Your Majesty’. I’ll settle for ‘Most Exalted’ and ‘Supreme Being. ‘
And woe to those who would commit lèse-majesté against your August Presence – or even your July Presence – by the prefidious downvote.
How about Serene Highness?
Maggie ,I know you are kidding but FUCK THAT SHIT.
OR the universal – Hay AssHole!
Hey
I was injured by an experimental flu shot in the Army. Who knows how many they fucked over with the anthrax vaccines. I only had to get one or 2 before it was voluntary yet again (sometimes courts get it right). That threat was entirely manufactured by our own intelligence sources.
One day they just ordered us over to the rec center to get the anthrax vaccine. I didn’t think it a good idea so I went to the library and hid. When in the army, I found the best place to hide was the library as basic literacy hadn’t infected anyone and they’d never find me in the library because they didn’t even know where our very tiny library was located.
At that time, the anthrax vaccine was very controversial and the guys not smart enough to go and hide were not thrilled to have taken it.
They were not even fucking around in my unit they were basically sending press-gangs. I held out as long as I could.
I noticed it but assumed you’d caught the possessive confusionary virus from HSF who is charming and all but still doesn’t give a shit about it, it’s or its.
Nope, was in a hurry and it showed.
The Pentagram is ginning up a fight against the CoVid Shit Shot-resisting rank and file military with the making mandatory of the experimental, emergency use authorized, genetic modification therapy with probably magnetic nanoparticle feature injection. It is a battle the Pentagram can probably win. That and Critical Race Theory.
Making war against barbarians in Afghanistan, Somalia, ISIS, and other garden spots: Not. So. Much.
The evidence of their sell-out is becoming so obvious that it’s stomach-turning.
The point wasn’t to win. The point was to funnel wealth from those who produce to those who destroy.
If the military is prepping for this, FDA approval must be coming soon. Once the FDA approves the “vaccine” all kinds of private enterprises will probably follow suit and start requiring it as well. Here in Montana businesses can’t require the Covid shot for employment but I wouldn’t want to be in a blue state.
About the time the Feds start applying their really big stick, most states will collapse like a snowflake being asked to think. Or resist and get sanctions previously reserved for recalcitrant foreign governments. IMO.
I have been wondering lately if any state would stand up to the Feds. Once the Feds cut off funds to any state not playing along that’s when we find out what the state government is made of, my guess would be most, if not all, cave.
But isn’t that why we’ve prepped? The States will cave and make life difficult for us. If you’ve prepped for this then at least you have some options. Those that have not prepped are now at the mercy of HR Karen’s that will make quarterly vaccinations mandatory.
This is only the beginning. We’re not even through the first inning.
We’re not even through the first inning.
I look at it as the 1st Wave, cresting with the Jab. Same thing with a different dialogue.
The what-comes-next is rich with possibilities.
The FDA has to do a 60 day review, which can only commence After the end of the (trans)human trials, which not have not ended, so force vaxxing starting on September will violate the Nuremberg Code.
Why the rush? Because when the malevolent nature of the jab becomes obvious, no one will take it, and they need as many people to take it before the jig is up.
Seems to me it’s already pretty damn obvious, with around 7,000 (reported) deaths, a not inconsiderable number of them within 48 hours of the shot.
And what do we hear? Crickets….
I identify as a vaccine. Covid deez nutz. Turnabout is fair play last I checked.
I see a lot of early separations coming. Biden is trying to surpass Obama as the great divider and chief.
Just another step to removing the real strength of the services. They’re getting it done at a pretty good clip.
But we could still clean Grenada’s clock. Probably.
And the Salvation Army could kick Canada’s ass.
But to what end? Except the moose. Definitely to gain the moose. Mean, anti-social and aggressive; my kind of animal. Along with wolverines and shrews.
Why shrews, you ask? Because pound for pound, they are one of the most vicious animals on the face of this planet. Solitary and extremely territorial. I might have to get a few and train them up. Probably do in the chickens, though, so maybe not.
honey badger
I’m still keen on those warrior rabbits in Watership Down.
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That is the first material from MP that I thought was truly funny!
It is the inexorable march of the R’s and the Ds. Apply the stick and then give some slack. Can you not see the pattern?
Great insight! Straight to the psychological pith. I had missed it.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/other-industries/pfizer-astrazeneca-and-moderna-registering-new-names-for-covid19-jabs/news-story/e3e876bf6ceb5a083bde246788ef702e
‘They’ are leaving no stone unturned, no option left unexplored. Never stop, never quit prying and expanding into every little crack, just like water.
Water ain’t got nuthn on YKW.
I’ve sat thinking over a Bourbon what I’m going to do if the shot becomes mandatory in order to work . At my age I could start SI in a few months and with odd jobs etc I’d be fine. My wife would hopefully join me down at the farm . I’m pretty sure that if it became mandatory she’d be on board with it being one of the biblical predictions .
Who knows. I’ll worry about it when happens. I’ve been planning on things going to crap for a long time but you never be to prepared when you have to make decisions at a moments notice. I’m sure that a national mandate will come on a Sunday and the Frankenjab police will be in full force that Monday morning . I’m just wondering if the Franken jab cops think that putting their lives in harms way to force something on the American lives is worth it ?
Who knows. I’ll worry about it when happens.
Actually, that’s pretty darn close to my own attitude. Basically I’m trying to urge people to have an eye toward the inner resolve, not just on the external preps. We know that in a stress situation we will generally automatically do what we have trained to do. That includes the emotional and the mental, along with the physical.
All it will take is that no doctor/dentist or hospital will see you unless vaccinated.
If have been vaccinated, a booster will be required to show complience.
One’s medical records carry a whole lot of information availiable to the us government.
All that’s going to do is create an underground health care system. There are 10’s of thousands of healthcare workers that will not take the jab
Just came in and man it is hot out there, weather underground says its 100.8 F.
Had to laugh, the health industry people are heroes. Saw a sign in front of the hospital.
Must have missed the memo.
Maybe an underground system in another country. They have you by the balls and they know it, not that it will make me get a vaccination mind you. As Crazy Horse said in whatever language they spoke out there, “It is a good day to die”.
Wean yourself off of the medical-industrial complex. Annual checkups do not extend longevity or improve overall health. For injuries, I agree, there will be an underground medical system. Use telehealth services for prescriptions, or try to avoid prescription drugs altogether. I suggest adding “Prime-Dent” to your prepping efforts for simple home dentistry, available from ebay but banned on amazon. By the way, for anyone looking for early outpatient covid treatment: c19protocols.com and myfreedoctor.com
Now that Dementia Joe is planning for his folks to go door-to-door to try and shove the jabs on us, it’s looking like the neighborhoods are going to get divided up as quickly as possible. I stopped looking for work because they ask if you are vaxxed or not already – so if you aren’t in the vax club, you can’t even work, much less play in many places – you know, the EU model?
And where did they compile the list of un-vaxxed folks to work from anyway? HIPPA or some such deal ought to make that illegal anyway.
My kids are all gone, so my shotgun has moved to the foyer. Not that I’m gonna shoot anyone, but in general, nosy neighbors and Karens and such are terribly allergic to even the sight of a firearm. I really hope they do this door knock deal during the day – I’ve almost shot a guy who just walked into my house after dark a few years back.
Not quite bugout time yet, but I’ve certainly had a snootful of this crazy shit. It’s bad enough I got people my age walking around measuring the height of my lawn and trying to look over my fence for something to complain about that they can’t even see without trespassing.
But as with most things, it will either peter out on its own or else people will get killed and then it will peter out. And wouldn’t you know it – both the yard police and the vax-nazis are all on facebook
They got the list from the comment section at TBP!
Why door to door,just send a mailer,much less chances of “issues”.
The forces go door to door to force vaccinate(not a vaccine but you get the point(see what I did there?!)),well…..,tis a hill for many.
Sniped from unknown location while walking down the street or exiting their vehicles..
They’re welcome to show up in my neighborhood whenever they feel the urge.
When it starts (and I suspect it will) we will lock our gate and shoot anyone who comes through.
Time they get to me, they’ve already been through the baptism, so to speak. Of course, there’s always the 2am county blitzkreig, but even that couldn’t be done without someone noticing the staging and prep. We’re a loooong way from nowhere.
We are tucked away in the woods less than a hundred miles from South St. Louis as the crow flies.
We are also less than a hundred miles from Poplar Bluff, which is one of the worst little cities in the Ozarks.
It is about 50 miles to I-55 which leads south to Memphis where no one wants to go anymore.
Ft. Leonardwood is a three hour drive but we occasionally see/hear helicopters. If they get close, I do try to take a peek at them. Mostly, am just glad we are here.
As far as “manning up?”
I’m all manned up.
That demented pervert can go fuck himself.
My inprocessing vaccinations put me in the hospital for three days
I can imagine. As a country bumpkin, I had to get a shitload of shots when I joined the USAF. I can’t imagine what kinds of shots one gets now.
As a. healthy and strapping young 18 year old lad in the mid eighties my shots made me sick for two days. The drill sergeants didn’t give a shit though and there was no sick call in basic training.
I was fortunate in Korea as well as my last year at Ft. Bragg, by then I had become very proficient at shamming. Both times I was able to convince the medics I’d already had the flu shot. Sort of a ‘this is not the droid your looking for’ type moment.
Hopefully the woke pussies in charge of our Armed forces go full retard. Those who refuse to comply get dishonorable discharges and separate prematurely. This would add tens of thousands of pissed off warriors to our ranks instantly.
I am so thankful my kid got out three years ago and didn’t even think for a second about reenlisting.
Norman, I fully understand about the kids. My boy is out of the (British) navy in 2 weeks. So glad, because our asshole of a prime minister is ramping up the sabre-rattling with Putin, AND they are probably going to make the jab mandatory. No-one should be joining the armed forces these days.
Get out of the “service” now while you still have control of your person.
It used to be a way to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and make a life for yourself.
Now, it is just a place to get told what to do and get paid.
And now too often an impetus to consider suicide.
I agree. I was very concerned when my nephew’s boy said, a few months ago, that he was considering the military soon, after graduation. I was greatly relieved and satisfied that he decided against it after he, his dad and I had a heart-to-heart. Just a few months later and he now acknowledges that it was a wise decision.
An old friend has a daughter (21) in the Coast Guard.
Less than a year left and counting the seconds.
Twitter just took down a biden post saying he was going to send stabbers door to door. was on “revolver news”.
A Biden post?
Good story for these trying times. I actually got into a verbal altercation with my primary care doc who insisted I get the shot, because otherwise, I could be spreading Covid all over So Cal. I told him to call me when he had an actual vaccine and not some “gene therapy” that’s under “emergency authorization” and has not been tested. By the time I was done with him he had smoke coming out his ears!
Great response!,,
Lose the doc.
I see my PCP about once a year for a quick checkup.
He said “You’re not going to get that shot, are you? You don’t need it.”
A question with an easy out either way I answered, but lets me know where he stands.
I simply said, “Nope. Like I told you, I’m not a pharmaceutical guy.”
He said, “That’s good. Good.”
Real doctors are still out there.
I went through the same thing in 94 in Germany with my command over influenza and the anthrax shots. My PA and battalion Doc fucken hated me. I asked my doc which weaponized strain of Anthrax they were attempting to inoculate me to and he asked me what I meant. Dumb fuck didnt even know there were 8 known weaponized strains and they were only inoculating for one and the flu shot made me sick every year I took it and that year was it for me. Have not had the flu since and I do not have to worry about the thrax side effects that several of my buddies still have 27 years later.
Went through the same shit again in 2011 with my guard unit PA. Guess he did not pay much attention to the microbiology portion of his degree.
Always good to get in with the medics and have them pencil whip shit back in the day before I claimed exempt status on personal grounds.
ZFG, out.
P.S.Nothing in life is mandatory except death. Everything has consequences, but none are more consequential than being your own master.
That was my first case of the flu, and the last. Pretty obvious where it came from.
Yeah, corpsmen and yeomen – always good friends to have. Especially the dispersing clerks.
“Nothing in life is mandatory except death. Everything has consequences, but none are more consequential than being your own master.” Exactly. I get sick of hearing sheep say that they “had to” take the jab because their bosses told them to. No-one has to take the jab, FDA approved or not.
You have what it takes TS!
Sometimes the military folks forgo the needle thingy and just spray something like Agent Orange, it’s hard to refuse breathing.
Apt title, TS. It is a hard red line, or there are no red lines. I have a soft spot in my heart for sociopaths that make the news, and you (whoever) should too.
No backwards steps, TS.
So true. Once it’s toe-to-toe, there’s no flinching or you’re done. And we are most certainly in a toe-to-toe fight these days. That’s what ‘red-line’ and ‘hill to die on’ means. The time for finesse is long gone.
Hello, is anybody out there?
Late to the post, but a good article. I have watched the progress of the jab in my office and have noted many of my co-workers initially followed the articles exposing the dangers of the jab. They beat their chest and made a solemn declaration “I will never let that into my body.”
One week later, most had succumbed and took their shot(s). What was interesting was to see their post reaction to all the articles exposing the danger; they avoided them like the plague.
Bottom line was I saw a lot of false bravado that eventually gave way to fear of opposing the authority.
My fear is that when the time comes to resist the final push to enslave us to the system, the same false bravado will also give way to fear and acceptance of the yoke around their neck.
Sad times indeed.
There’s a hard truth to the saying ‘talk is cheap’.
Yep. But there will be a small, hardened minority who tell them to shove it.
In hindsight, I was actually happy about those mask mandates in some twisted way, because it exposed very early the lack of courage of the masses. Meanwhile, I, like HSF, did not wear masks wherever I went, and trust me, it took guts over here in the Northeast. I was insulted, had the cops called, was escorted out of businesses etc. It only hardened my resolve. Freedom is like a muscle, it needs to be exercised if you want to keep it. The masks were the elliptical, and the vaccines are the treadmill. Plus, 5 years ago our pediatrician kicked us out of the practice because they had a new policy of only accepting fully vaccinated children, presumably due to insurance kickbacks. Good riddance!