Normal rules of engagement are out the window. We’ve got to fight back with equal intensity or we stand to loose everything. I wish we were on a level playing field but we’re not. When you know the other side is unethical and doing whatever it takes to win, with all the levels of power on their side, this kind of thing is the last gasp before it finally turns into a shooting war… Chip
“Turnabout is fair play,” on one hand. “Do not return evil for evil,” on the other.
What decides?
“All’s fair in love and war.”
This ain’t love.
Neither I nor anyone here made vaccination status the dividing line to segregate society between the upper castes and the untouchables. Those who wish to divide and conquer did that. I cannot undo the division, so now it’s about being conquered .. or not.
This means I can fire you for anything I want or nothing at all.
Do you think personal decisions aren’t a reflection of personal beliefs and actions that will follow?
A guy who decided to try his hand at thieving, who gets caught and then has the bright idea to get a spider web tattoo on his elbow and then has the even brighter idea to hide it from me during an interview…shouldn’t be fired later for his “personal decisions”?
You might want to rethink your position or spell it out better.
38 and 39 downvotes aren’t from a bunch of trolls!
There’s some restrictions, based upon federal and state civil rights laws, but a smart employer can always find an excuse that will fly. And if the employee has a written employment contract, the contract would prevail.
But they can’t say that firing someone who isn’t jabbed is legal but firing someone who is isn’t. Well they could but then there would be a equal protection clause violation. But it’s probably more akin to a mass .lay off situation than a firing, and considering what’s been going on with the restaurant industry, totally justified.
Toddler argument? Are you too infantile to understand that in Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals he states to use our morality and propensity to play fair as a weapon against us? Shall we pout or prevail?
My mom APPLAUDS Biden and Fauci with their fantasy-based rules and regs. All I tell her is “You’ve allowed a precedent to be set. Let’s see if you’re still clapping when they come after something YOU hold dear.”
There are no vaccine mandates in the state of Texas. So the restaurant owner just made a non-vaccine mandate for his business. This is not fighting vaccine mandates at all, because there is none. This is actually quite childish and stupid of him. I’m going to bookmark this page for later ( 6 months or a year) because I see one hell of a lawsuit coming for the vaccinated employees that are fired. You cannot fight vaccine mandates in a jurisdiction that has no vaccine mandates. The unvaxed are not at war with the people who were duped into receiving the vaccines, they are at war with the vaccines themselves and the bureaucrats and big pharma that are pushing them. This move by the business owner serves no point. It does not “Own the libs” or the “vaccinated”. I’m betting he’ll lose his ass in court over this move.
This was not about Texas specific mandates, it was Biden’s in the works national mandate for companies with over 100 employees. This business owner is just being proactive, make no mistake about it, the 100+ mandate enforcement is coming, book it.
The court challenges are farts in the wind, there is case precedent that will prevail. Also, did no one learn anything with Obamacare court challenges.
Court, Schmourt. The businesses are mandating it for their employees and customers. Brain Dead Joe is going to Chicago to twist United CEO Scott Kirby’s (ASAFA grad.) arm to mandate vax passports for customers too as he has mandated all United Airlines employees get the jab.
Correct, but “Reasons” can be challenged in court. I do not know with what degree of success. Nevertheless, this move serves no purpose at all. It does not thwart a vaccine agenda at all. Also, what’s to stop a person applying for the job as the replacement from being vaccinated and lying and saying they are instead unvaccinated? With these vaccinations, there is proof of vaccination. With the unvaccinated, there is no proof of unvaccination. Is there a central database that an employer can look up in Texas to find out an employees vaccination status?
He’s not hiring replacements for these workers. He is divesting of enough workers to get below the 100 employee threshold. So, no openings, no applicants need apply whether lying or not.
Not necessarily — according to the local physician in B.C. Canada, the d-dimer test is a pretty good proxy for telling if someone (otherwise previously healthy) took the shit shot. It is a test for serious levels of micro-clotting.
what’s to stop a person applying for the job as the replacement from being vaccinated and lying and saying they are instead unvaccinated?
Maybe the guy is wrong in firing or not hiring the vaccinated — but the answer to your question is: the same thing that stops an applicant from ying about anything — that is, nothing, UNTIL the lie is discovered and the employee is very rightly terminated.
That’s regardless of whether a restriction on the vaccinated is the right thing to do or not.
P.S. the phrasing of your comment reveals that you’re okay with vaccine mandates.
Wrong about the vaccine mandates in Texas. Texas businesses can indeed mandate vaccines. state and local governments cannot.
Texas is also a ‘right to work’ state.
The unvaxxed may not be at war with the vaxxed but the vaxxed sure do seem at war with the unvaxxed.
Stuck – the thing about having ethics and standards is that a person really only has them when things get tough. That is the test. Seems some folks around here have abandoned any semblance of decency because ‘well, Johnny does it too”.
Where are the men of character, where “I may not agree with what you say but will fight to the death for you right to say it?” These are the tough times, and no the time to toss away character because the other side doesn’t fight fair. I worked too hard to develop a sense of right and wrong, and am not going to let that go because some assholes have no character.
Does that logic also apply in a hot war where someone is shooting to kill you? It’s unethical to kill someone, right? But, it’s necessary in war. Does your character house take a hit when you have to kill someone…even though it’s wrong to take a life?
If this guy does not play the game and get his numbers below 100, then he takes a shot. He’s got to protect himself somehow. How do you suggest he do it?
Who said it is wrong to take a life? Self defence or in defence of one’s family, friends, property, or sometimes nation are all legitimate reasons to do so in my opinion. And yes, that logic does apply in war. Men of character do not kill prisoners, for example.
How does he do it? He fires employees that are worst performing, have the highest rate of absenteeism, who are least skilled, who are not cross trained, etc. There are many business based criteria that can be used for firing someone.
It is a short leap from firing someone who is vaxxed/unvaxxed to firing them for religious reasons, freedom of speech reasons (which is happening a lot), for political reasons, etc. And it is all despicable.
Looks like he is practicing a form of self-defense to me.
How do you know he didn’t fire his worst employees first? If I were a business owner, I’d want employees who can think for themselves. Do you think the vaxxed are people who are skilled at thinking for themselves?
“…it is all despicable.” I agree with you, but then again, we’re not in times of peace.
Well, again…the vaxxed have proven they can’t think for themselves. They listened to their government to tell them what to do. I would not want that type of employee.
Abigail – that is past moronic and entirely into brain dead. If you have an employee it is possible to measure their performance. If you consider all the stupid shit people do outside of work and base hiring decisions on that, you would have no employees. You never had any employees, did you.
I do now. Measuring performance is important…but times are changing. These are not the old days of corporate America. IMO it’s important to keep those under attack employed, and let those go who could possibly cause you harm in the very near future. We are playing by different rules now. My utmost priority is protecting those under attack at this point in time.
It’s all about letting go of old ideas and understanding what is happening to us, here and now.
Llpoh, wasn’t there a requirement to get vaxxed if 100+ employees? WTF? Nature fixes stupid by culling. This is a biological world not a fallen world. Your premises are wrong. You don’t consider the ‘right’ to remain unvaxxed. Always the Leftists and garbage and anti-white people matter more than rational white men. I’m fucking sick of it. I don’t care how you dress it up. Pain is pain. I am numb to arguments in my way.
Would you fire all the non-red people and recover your culture if you could, chief? Christianity asserts culture does not matter.I say it does. Group cohesion matters. Unqualified love is entropy and foolishness.
A cardinal rule of military science is to disrupt enemy communications not protect it. Your hard-earned values are fallacious. Sucks to work hard in a way that has no chance. Masculinity owes up to fallacies and grows. There is no earthly reason for your position. You can only be right for a heavenly reason. You must take Xian seriously, so I give you credit for intellectual integrity. Too bad you can’t scrutinized axiomatic faith as well as it’s earthly application.
Llpoh-Depends on the decisions but in this case I agree with you because I think this guy is looking for free advertising and notoriety. He should have made it known in advance he did not want vaxed workers. I’ll suffer the slings and arrows with you on this one. 🙂
I don’t think it was that big a deal to him until the typical gubmint dumbfuck policy made its appearance: a 100-person-limit-or-pay-a-fine mandate (dictate). Then he reacted in a way meant to preserve his business. Sure there’s probably a bit of self-promotion involved, but he’ll need new un”vaccinated” customers to help him stay afloat, so good for him.
A lot of people I know and like have taken the shit shot; I’m sorry they were brainwashed or otherwise too myopic to understand what’s going on, but none have been asshats to me about refusing it. I think the gubmint and media, but I repeat myself (h/t chris plante), are the ones stoking all this anti-vax vitriol. So fuck’em all, and if the regular person who is “vaxxed” gets caught in the crossfire — as happened here — then that is the price they pay to be on the wrong side of morality, ethics, and liberty.
The lines are drawn, not by us, but we damn sure will react when required to.
This is why a hot CW2 (or any war for that matter) will be (is) so devastating — because many mostly innocent, and many innocent, non-combatants become collateral damage.
This guy should have gathered up the restaurant owners in the area , said to them, “stand with me on this 100% vax thing”, and had numbers on his side. SOLIDARITY in numbers is the only way.
DS- This is Jedi mind games right now, the Bolshies won’t stop at a hundred, soon it will be any employees past the owners all the way down to (1). People who work in restaurants are generally low income and I hate to see these poor schmoes lose their job without some kind of organized rebellion first.
Yes, I can’t deny that they’ll move the goal posts, and I agree that he needs to band together with other owners. But he took action against this shit, and I can’t fault him for that. The “vaxxed” workers are paying a price, but I covered that above. I said back at the beginning of this shit (to some liberal co-workers), when it was “just” mask mandates, that if people put up with it then it will never end. Well, I was right.
Wrong. White Christians were in the driver’s seat and now are being eliminated. White Christians only have themselves and their religion to blame. Time to smell the data of the last 50 fucking years.
RD — if you’re replying to me: I was talking about our reality here and now, and going forward. ‘Murica is dead and it’s people fractured, a meaningful remnant need to band together if we can agree on basic tennats of a sound community. Sadly, it will take near obliteration and survival mode to kick in — only then will all of the bullshit concerns drop away leaving a few common core values to unite around. But will it be too late by then? Are we too individualistic, us erstwhile Americans?
DS, I was responding to your comment. You don’t understand that human nature varied and mostly dispicable. Christianity hides that fact. All together in a suicide pact is not winning; therefore, all together is not necessarily a good thing. It is a terrible thing. It is exactly how we got into this mess. Still not, you know.
First of all, I said nothing about Christianity — I agree that it is a dead letter at this point, in terms of what passes for it today. It’s been corrupted and most of the sheep don’t even sniff a clue. Second: perhaps I’ve misunderstood your overall arc — I thought you generally advocated ‘tribe up or die’. I believe it, but I think we’re pretty much incapable of it at this point.
#tooFracturedin’Murica
I’m more culture up than tribe up, but I can only agree with this particular comment, DS. I have invested in those who can’t sniff a clue and recommend against it.
I think an awful lot of good points have been made above by others. LLPOH, I believe has this all wrong. Yes, he has good thoughts on many things but, this one is off the rocker imo. Abigail is right, this is a war going on right now. How you going to fight it? If we believe in freedom, then this guy can do whatever he wants. I include his freedom to deny service to anyone for any reason. We have fallen a looooooooooooooong way from freedom. Without freedom, we got nuttin.
It’s a war for freedom. I say abandon morality until we have won. If we do not, we will lose to the most despicable among us. Either that or GOD himself will deliver us from evil.
Glock, Glock, Glock….You leave out the most important combatants in this war. This war can not, must NOT be us against each other. It must be us against the elite pirate class who want you dead and gone, the criminals who steal from us daily, those who stack EVERY DECK against us and IN THEIR favor. You are so terribly confused as to who is fighting who. Again I say (just as our founders said) Together We Stand, Divided We Fall. We must not stab one of our own in the back, that is not an act of freedom. My God man, think about what you are saying.
And the war must be fought from the high ground of moral principle, right and wrong, and it must be fought by men and women of character who do not abandon such when times are tough. Attacking innocents is despicable, it is wrong, and I will never associate with those that do such.
Men and women have the right of free speech, and freedom of association. I will not punish them for the mere exercising of such rights. I will defend if they infringe upon my own. I will oppose if they attempt to strip me of my rights. But I will allow them to exercise their rights without punishing them for doing so.
If I remember correctly, you said you’d do anything to win a physical fight. Including biting off someone’s balls. Does that sound like something an honorable man would do? 🙂
I don’t see the vaxxed as innocents. For the most part, I see them as complicit, of low character and cowards. Stay away from stupid. Anyone who has investigated/researched about the jab and Covid but still got vaxxed (unless they did a benefit/cost comparison based on their age and health) fall into one of those groups.
I get it. Honor, integrity and morality but war is a bitch.
Covid and the world wide reaction to it, imo, will be the biggest thing to happen on earth since the resurrection of Jesus.
What is your plan? How you going to fight back? If you did not do EVERYTHING in your power and lose, what are you going to say to yourself?
Or maybe he was not interested in the jabned status of his employees either because he doesn’t think it’s anyone’s business what a person’s private health care decisions do. Since he didn’t fire them earlier that’s what it appears.
But now he has to shrink his work force because of the vaxstappo so he’s jettisoning the jabbed ones. He’s laying off the jabbed, who will have no problem finding employment so they won’t be the ones starving. They can go fill some of the millions of available positions which by the way are available exclusively to the dirty blooded.
And now he doesn’t have to force the rest of his employees to have to decide between feeding their families or to take an un safe gene therapy concoction.
It’s a classical triage approach
Although he does seem to be enjoying it a bit much.
This is why fat feminist cunts, tattooed and hole-punched freaks, disgusting faggot trannies, and street-shitting foreigners are all you see at some businesses.
But no one wants to ‘work’ anymore! It’s a mystery.
The alternative choice would have been to either fire the vast majority of his employees, who are unvaccinated, forcing them into a job market where they can’t be allowed to work, or to violate the Nuremberg Code and coerce them into taking a potentially life
threatening gene therapy injection with no recourse for any injuries,
That’s the real dark side.
Especially since there are tens of millions of un filed job vacancies nationwide. Which the vaccinated can fill but the unvaccinated can’t.
Liberal lovin’ Loopy is comes out from hiding to display some Justin Trudeau like virtue signaling. Shake my head. Have you liberated your prison colony yet?
— just because he’s not posting much these days, doesn’t mean he’s hiding
— Loopy … that’s a cheap and gratuitous insult
— Llpoh is absolutely the last person on TBP to engage in “virtue signaling”. He tells it like it is, every time. And we all know it.
— I’d bet my life that Llpoh’s house and property are miles and miles above what you have … makes you feel good though, doesn’t it, to throw out the “prison colony” crap. Ohmigod, as if the USA!USA!USA! isn’t a prison colony.
Well, I must close this out. I’m just beating around the bush. What I really want to ask, and it is a sincere question, is … WAS IT REALLY NECESSARY TO BE SUCH A FUCKING ASSHOLE??
I remember that comment. I believe you said you would do one or the other…close or force the mandate. I believe you have also said the employers have a duty to keep everyone safe (customers and employees).
I said I most likely would close. There are aspects that make it difficult to know for certain – for instance, by closing it could toss many employees into unemployment, and the jobs perhaps would not be recoverable, which is no easy decision to make, as the human cost of such decisions is high.
I also said my opinion is that employers would better protect themselves and would assume less risk if they wanted to stay in business by firing the unvaxxed as opposed to assuming risk associated with health and safety laws.
I did not say I agreed with what was happening. But I damn accurately forecast what has and is and will continue to happen.
But GUESS WHAT? You’d be on the side of our oppressors. They are pushing EVERYONE into a morality conundrum. No matter what you do, you’re right and wrong at the same time. Soooooooooooo, what should a person do? Play the looooooooooooong game. Go for the win. Put society back together again through separation when it is all over.
You never answered my question yesterday. I asked you about China. Will you feel you made the best choice to leave America if China takes over Australia? Is that a long shot? What do I know.
EDIT: I probably should have worded this comment a bit differently. I’m just trying to say that we ALL have a responsibility to fight back in anyway we can. I believe it is a duty.
For example, the nation has accepted firing people for failing a urine test for quite some time now. Personal decisions are no longer valid if you’ve allowed yourself to slip into collectivism, as our national mindset appears to be at this time. So… what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, as the saying goes.
Isn’t that’s what full automation is for? Then you can fire everyone and feel good about it, and give some explanation that it’s about the bottom line.
Coal – if anyone ever feels good about firing someone via automation I never met him or her. Most people are incapable of firing someone – it is very hard to do. And the ones that I have met that are capable of it never enjoyed it – quite the contrary.
Automation is about competing. About becoming more efficient – producing more with less. If business doesn’t do that, they generally go out of business. And it often is not about improving the bottom line, but about trying to maintain it and not go broke.
….and here we are today. No one has much money with $10/hr jobs, much is not being sold, all it takes is the weakest link in the just-in-time chain to not pay their bills and then no one can make anything, and everything is going belly up.
Automation is just another excuse to get rid of whatever American employees they couldn’t figure out how to outsource. But none of it matters now. As I told people 10 years ago, all of the shelves will go empty, and since no one has a solution they refuse to admit to, there will be no employees or businesses if there’s nothing to sell. We’re about to see the biggest liquidation in history.
Herd animals are so proper about not attacking up the hierarchy. We can’t afford the gravy train and the police state. What does the administrative gymnastic skills or moves of employers matter? War is war. Those who don’t see the war are my enemy by default. Fucking budniss adz u shuel.
All of what I call a harvesting mentality by the 1% where they reap everything to death is the reason we’re in the mess we’re in, and the Government and Justus legal system has codified it. They’re harvesting what little is left, and they have to put their boots on the populace just to save their sorry hides. If we collapse peacefully then so be it, or if everyone of them and their shills have to be eradicated, that’s fine by me. I suppose in the next few months we shall see which ways it goes. I know if someone tries to put their foot on my head, I won’t stop shooting until the gun is empty.
Those soon to be bankrupt and empty big box stores would make great clothing and shoe factories. Oops- they fucked over the Singer Sewing Machine Company years ago by allowing in cheap imports and they stopped making industrial sewing machines in the early 1960’s.
Still not getting it, Llpoh. You would be correct if this weren’t war. I assert that it is. All useful idiots are a clear and present danger. And he had no equally good option. He did not make the choice; he made the right call given the imposed circumstances.
Of course it is war, of a sort. He showed himself to be of poor character. You can be a total moron at times. Even war has rules, if you are a person of character with a sense of morality. Innocents should not be the target of war.
His choices, lay off the 90 unjabbed, or force the injection on them, or fire the 40 jabbed ones, to get under the artificial number of the yet to be written and certainly un constitutional and illegal mandate.
Do you prefer he fire the 40 or so innocents who can go out and get another job at the expense of the 90 or so who can’t?
Totally agree, but of course they always are, are they not? I covered this previously. As for morality in war, well that is an oxymoron. I know what you mean, but I’m pretty sure there’s a limit to how much morality one can preserve in a Sarajevo-type situation, which may well erupt in many cities before this is all over. I hope it doesn’t come to that, because I understand there will be collateral damage to innocents — there always is…
From the perspective of law of the jungle, there is no innocence. Reminds me of the train scene in Atlas Shrugged. You are looking at this in total isolation as if we are gods who can block out realilty. Ridiculous. You can’t have an economy without culture and politics. If he wants to defend is economy he must defend his culture and politics. And again, the unvaxxed get to stay employed and unvaxxed (for now).
There is always collateral damage. But the guy we are discussing directly targeted them, and they were not collateral damage. They were sought out intentionally.
Sure is, but if you fight in the octagon and you follow Marques of Queensbury rules while the other fellow is following MMA rules then you will lose ever time.
You can’t play nice if the other side is playing dirty, not if you want to win.
It’s “yay” because tens of thousands will lose their jobs because they won’t take the Shit Shot …. and it’s a joy to see the situation reversed this one time!!!!
dawg- But IT IS only going to be one time, so what does this guy really prove other than these employees and their families will suffer.If we all just stab each other in the back to save ourselves and don’t solidify into a single force, there will be no stopping the mandates.
I’m sure some of those woke “vaxx”tard employees of his don’t give a shit about you, BL, you unvaxxed heathen. So I wouldn’t lose too much sleep over it…
Look at it this way, he SAVED the jobs of 92 employees, and allowed them to continue feeding their families. These shots are deadly, so he SAVED his business, also. It is not unethical to protect your investments. His remaining employees are getting a raise, so that will solidify this group. This encouragement will help our cause. He didn’t stab anyone, the ones fired allowed someone else to stab them.
Vig- HE COULD HAVE HAD THE UNVAXED TEST EACH WEEK. Millions are testing each week, even Admin. so fuk you and your enjoyment of financial ruin for 47 families in this country who didn’t have to suffer…..asshole.
I don’t trust those test swabs either. I saw a video about them consisting of nanofibers that break apart easily and can deposit the graphene oxide in your nasal cavity. Maybe that’s not true, but then why were they shoving those swabs way up inside your sinus next to your brain case? If they were doing DNA testing for “covid”, then why not just swab your tongue or inner nostril like all other DNA tests?
I have to nostril rape twice per week in lieu of a shot that I’ll never take. The tests don’t go that high into the nose anymore. That said, they still aren’t fun.
God damn, you’re an idiot, BL! There is a coalition of ‘Satan’ that has thousands of insiders and millions of lackeys and you blame this employer for not saving his employees. Did you ever stop to think that maybe the fucking real human problem should be ‘fixed’? Did that ever cross your fucking mind! When you are in a situation that you can only save one of your children if you positively act and choose one over the other, and if you don’t choose either they both die, what do you do? Does it ever occur to you the sin of helping evil take government force this far? DOES IT!!!!! See that elephant in the room stepping on all the testicles of Western men. Could you fucking acknowledge that? Jesus. This shit never happened under bigoted white patriarchy.
They won’t face financial ruin unless they want to there are millions of unfilled jobs nationwide. And since the so called test won’t be available after December, testing is going to be rather difficult.
They are not going to be ruined. For christ sakes. All I hear about is all the help wanted signs all over America. Do your part to save your brothers and sisters in their struggle to keep ownership of their own bodies. Freedom is costly. Hopefully it will cost our enemies the most.
Glock, True there are jobs in cities in the food service industry. How do you know this is not some jerk water Texas small town(s) where this man runs his operations? Not so easy to scare up a job in small towns these days Glock. What if they don’t have the money to move or drive long distance to new employment?
I had a conversation with my wife JUST TONIGHT about this. We are prepared to do what we can for those hurt by this Godless government. We do not have a large house but WE WILL take in someone we believe has been ful<ed by the system. We should all commit to doing this. IMO.
If we all just stab each other in the back to save ourselves and don’t solidify into a single force, there will be no stopping the mandates.
That is precisely why I am pissed about my life. What was go along to get along this past 50 fucking years? It’s not just since 2020. There is no fucking we. I wish TV were more entertaining than repeating myself, Goddammit.
RD you ignorant shit stain, you blather but never say anything of purpose. What is your point? I blame any person who shit cans almost 50 families at his whim when he could have had them test weekly, but he only cares for himself and you can bet he set up a karma debt that will bite him in the ass so hard that even you will feel it Doug. Either we stick together or we sink, that guy has no loyalty to ANYONE. Maybe that is why you think he’s so great.
Laughing at the bold and exclamation points. You are an expert shit stirrer. You run a close 2nd to my ex. I see what he is trying to do. It puts him down to Dementias level.
We didn’t make the “rules” but we’re expected to play by them. Turnabout is fairplay, wouldn’t you say? He’s only responding rationally, as a business owner would be expected to act. This is why I don’t get Mr. Rational Businessman LLPOH’s repsonse.
Another benefit is that the clean & pure employees, and customers, will be safer since they no longer have to interact with the shit spike (SS) shedders.
Meanwhile, private companies with more than 100 employees will be subject to a forthcoming rule from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration requiring all employees to be vaccinated or get tested weekly. Biden announced the regulation weeks ago, but the agency is still drafting the particulars.
So, the shots are mandated for everyone EXCEPT…
“The groups that have been exempted from getting the vaccines, all of Congress, plus all the congressional staff, House, and the Senate. That’s a lot of people. 6,000 White House employees, all exempted. 2,500 Pfizer employees exempted. 1,500 Moderna employees and 120,000 Johnson and Johnson employees, all exempt. 15,000 CDC, 14,000 FDA employees exempted…”
and..
“Congress is exempt from the COVID-19 vaccine mandate, as are the Judicial branch and the United States Post Office (USPS). These governmental branches are exempt in their own right—but not because of Biden’s EO. The vaccine mandate exemption in Biden’s EO applies only to the Executive Branch.”
And illegals are also exempt…in America the smartest move for all of us is to be here illegally. Rio Grande here I come….
DS – that is some really dumb shit right there. There is nothing whatsoever rational about firing people in the manner he has done. I fired thousands of people in my career, and I never fired a single one for there personal beliefs. It was always performance based or based on business need. Always. Some very horrible people worked for me for decades. That they were horrible outside of work was not my issue. My issue was what they do at work, and if they add value and don’t cause trouble, that was all I based my business decisions on.
Times have changed, bro — as I said in a previous comment, the un”vaxxed” didn’t start this shit and we’re gonna be hard pressed to weather more incoming shit before it’s over. So better buck up and start playing for keeps and be smart about what you do. Perhaps this guy’s best play was to fold his business and put all his employees out of work; that way he could avoid the attention he’ll get from the woketards.
I was going to vouch for you in a comment above where you refuted a Anons lie — because I remember reading the post in which you said that you would probably fold before mandating the shit shot. And then you all but call me a dumbshit. Whatever, man, I’m not here to call people names or tell people to piss off.
It was always performance based or based on business need.
Maybe his business needed to trim staff to comply with a shitty mandate or fold. Either way, people are getting fired — at least a lesser amount than if he completely closed down.
Didn’t call you a dumbshit. But when you post something stupid, I may well call it out. And saying that firing people based on vax status is rational is stupid. It is simply not rational. Not in any way. Rational is to keep your most valuable employees, irrational is to ignore that imperative.
I agree with you that it would be wrong to fire the vaxxed — in the absence of a 100-person-or-fine gubmint mandate. But once that hit, all bets are off. And we’re talking about restaurant employees, not high-skill manufacturing here where there is a significant premium on “quality” and “value” of the employee. Moreover, I also argue elsewhere on this thread that the spike shedding issue is a salient consideration, even if he didn’t mention that or even consider that risk.
People here and elsewhere have written about creating an alternative society. This is one way to start creating it.
People wonder how to form a community with like-minded individuals. This is a necessary part of it.
Also, they drew first blood. This guy had a business and did not make this decision in the absence of the AGGRESSIVE PROGRAM OF EXCLUSION FROM SOCIETY that has begun to be implemented by TPTB and their candy-assed enablers over the last year and a half.
I can’t really take you seriously. I’ve been posting here off and on since around 2008. If my employer found out who Coalclinker really is, I’d be fired immediately.
Who ever said anything has ever been fair? No one can be honest because so much is crooked. I sit back in my general anonymity and laugh at a lot of the people around me who take everything seriously. If I say one thing that deviates from the “norm” they would stick my head on a pike. And yes, Stucky is indeed amusing when he stirs the litter box and that smell permeates the house.
From the article:
“Roughly 6,600 eateries across the state sought a total of $1.6 billion from the Restaurant Revitalization Fund, said Lynn Minges, the president and CEO of the North Carolina Restaurant and Lodging Association. “There’s just not enough money,” Minges said.”
Stuck, you old dawg, you done it again!!!
Keep digging.
And do not spare us the pretty stuff.
TX Patriot
October 7, 2021 9:58 am
What is the restaurant name(s) and where are they located? If close enough, I want to give them a try!!!!
Sir Willie Wallace
October 7, 2021 10:17 am
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Tom MacGyver
October 7, 2021 10:38 am
This stinks as much as what the other side is doing. Vaccinating against COVID should be a matter of personal choice. PERIOD. This guy just forced NOT vaccinating. WRONG!
Doing heroin is A PERSONAL CHOICE, firing druggies is WRONG! Being a bugchaser is a personal choice, firing syphilitic AIDS carriers is WRONG, and btw you can pay for their health care while you’re at it!
A year and a half of this shit, and you still want to just bend over and take it? People lost jobs, were forced to move, go through humiliation rituals on a daily basis.
When someone fights dirty, and you refuse to ‘stoop to their level’, that doesn’t make you noble. It makes you an idiot.
Vaccinating against COVID should be a matter of personal choice.
Yes! It SHOULD be.
The fact that it IS NOT, is not this guy’s decision. We can either have NONE of this shit, or we (me, at least) can demand more of what this guy is doing. I’m happy with either result. STOP the vaccine mandates (and the passport roll-out) entirely … OR … war.
It just depends how hard it gets pushed by pharma, .gov, academia, the medical establishment, and the media. If it gets the full court press we’ve received for the shit-shot, I assume the same number and type of people would swallow a pill of pure ricin if “the science” told them to.
ReluctantWarrior
October 7, 2021 11:48 am
Hoooooooooooorrrrrraaaaaaaaaay! Excellent, its about time that the real sick people paid the price for their obedient stupidity.
DirtpersonSteve
October 7, 2021 12:17 pm
It would have been better to grant every single exemption request, imho. It would be documented and would show his employees that he does actually care.
Instead he seems like a terrible person to work for if employees are only numbers on the ledger, chattel that can be cut loose easily. His business-his rules I suppose.
What the hell are you talking about? You might want to watch the video again.
Matt
October 7, 2021 12:37 pm
Just a note on the covid vac front – I have seen multiple reports of the vaxxed being the super spreaders and infecting those in close proximity. From the health perspective, it makes sense to remove super spreaders from the area.
Ivor Mechtin, M. D. at Law
October 7, 2021 3:28 pm
This is the standard mechanism for deluding the ‘dissidents’ into thinking they have ‘won’.
The reader imagines that his enemies are crying aloud in dismay at this setback, that they are stunned into near speechlessness by this unexpected volley of Turnabout Victory. “Haha, how do you like it, Lefty!?” they imagine themselves sneering in the face of some person who is responsible for this mess. Someone they can finally vent their spleen upon.
We’re gonna show ’em this time!
It’s entirely meaningless, of course. Our overlords do not even notice and their useful idiots, incapable as they are of logic or reason, will derive no useful reflection from it either.
“We are at war!” somebody said up-thread. Dear Lord! That kind of remark is what I was referring to when I mentioned that stories like thus are the standard method by which Wrong Thinkers are deluded. I think that’s the only reason they are disseminated at all.
It’s not even a thimble draining the Pacific in terms of any kind of progress or victory.
The ‘right’ is brainwashed too, and by the same Brainwashers.
Yeah, some people have the ability to think and reason, Stucky is shit stirring but I know he is wise enough to see through this.
Aus Anon
October 7, 2021 6:29 pm
You know you’re buying right into the divide and conquer strategy by cheerleading this, right?
The media has many of the vaxxed believing that the unvaxxed are dangerous. You are being influenced by the mainstream media just the same if you cheerlead against the vaxxed, while thinking you are free-willed. In fact you’re just reacting exactly how you are being programmed to react.
Everything going on has always been about divide and conquer, but when half of the population sees how naked the Emperor really is, and refuse to play the clown game, the Emperor dies.
I am so fucking sick of the paranoia that every fucking move is exactly planned and favors the NWO. The West grew on healthy bigotry and dies on egalitarianism. We need HATE, which is why the Left has criminalized their advantage and why preachers allowed to preach preach against HATE. The Gordian Knot is not undone politely.
It all comes down to you got yours. When you’ve been stripped enough, if you ever are, you will sing a different tune. Sadly, I must for rational reasons hope that Americans and other Westerns loose more and suffer more. It is the only way. You have too much to require minimum standards in society. In a progressive society, minimum standards must progress.
The cult vaxxed are fucking idiots, and useful idiots are my fucking problem. Programmed? Tell me I am being programmed by my murderers to hate my murderers. The fucking unreal morality and sense of personal narrative agency of you fucking privileged subhumans. Can’t hold onto a country, don’t even understand the concept of country, or you don’t care. Grating.
RD — it’s unproductive to run on HATE most of the time; it is more effective in laser-like doses at the right time, against the right target. And delivered more as COLD ANGER to keep it smooth and efficient.
So Doug doesn’t believe the dark side is in charge….. that’s ok he #willgetitoneday. You really don’t get this do you RD? And you were/thought yourself so fukkin smart.
It’s Teddy Beale Disease. Like rabies, it’s hopeless once the symptoms begin to manifest themselves publicly.
BL
October 8, 2021 8:51 am
Stucky, my faith in my fellow man went down quite a few notches after this thread. These morans should be picked for the “Hunger Games” so they could stab each other to death for a chance to eat Bon Bons in the capitol and be famous.
Stucky
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October 8, 2021 10:15 am
Well, that was fun! TWO 200 comment threads in ONE day! A rare day of flinging of the poo. If I may broadly categorize the arguments.
The LLPOH group — it’s a war, but let’s fight fair
The BL group —. We’re all brothers and sisters, can’t we get along?
The GNL group — fuck the jabbed, kill ’em all!
The ANON I group — Stucky is a narcissist asshole!!
The MYGIRL group — ALL of you suck Diseased Donkey Dick! 🥰
Might have to close one of the restaurants but good for him! Fuck Joe Biden! Chip
Do you mean “Let’s go, Brandon”?
Yeah sorry. I like the more vulgar and true version but that’s just me… Chip
Reminds me of “Die, gas pumper!”, only this is serious. That’s good propaganda for our side, regardless.
That is as bad as the reverse. Firing people for personal decisions is despicable.
CORRECT!
Normal rules of engagement are out the window. We’ve got to fight back with equal intensity or we stand to loose everything. I wish we were on a level playing field but we’re not. When you know the other side is unethical and doing whatever it takes to win, with all the levels of power on their side, this kind of thing is the last gasp before it finally turns into a shooting war… Chip
The typical toddler argument. Two wrongs do not make a right.
You are correct, “Two wrongs do not make a right”, is a typical toddler argument… Chip
“Turnabout is fair play,” on one hand. “Do not return evil for evil,” on the other.
What decides?
“All’s fair in love and war.”
This ain’t love.
Neither I nor anyone here made vaccination status the dividing line to segregate society between the upper castes and the untouchables. Those who wish to divide and conquer did that. I cannot undo the division, so now it’s about being conquered .. or not.
And being the bigger person and turning our cheek has got us where exactly????
Heaven, for starters…
That being said, I have two cheeks; four, if you count the ones on my butt. They’ve all been beaten. I’ve had enough.
There’s a much deeper meaning to ‘turn the other cheek’ than the definition that’s often bandied about.
https://www.jp2parish.org/blog/the-deeper-meaning-turn-the-other-cheek
One can still cherish honor while putting it aside in face of an enemy that does not fight in good faith.
I’d laugh if Christianity were not smothering me to death. I’ll just laugh a little. lo
In the States, employment is “at will”.
This means I can fire you for anything I want or nothing at all.
Do you think personal decisions aren’t a reflection of personal beliefs and actions that will follow?
A guy who decided to try his hand at thieving, who gets caught and then has the bright idea to get a spider web tattoo on his elbow and then has the even brighter idea to hide it from me during an interview…shouldn’t be fired later for his “personal decisions”?
You might want to rethink your position or spell it out better.
38 and 39 downvotes aren’t from a bunch of trolls!
How do you know, troll?
There’s some restrictions, based upon federal and state civil rights laws, but a smart employer can always find an excuse that will fly. And if the employee has a written employment contract, the contract would prevail.
But they can’t say that firing someone who isn’t jabbed is legal but firing someone who is isn’t. Well they could but then there would be a equal protection clause violation. But it’s probably more akin to a mass .lay off situation than a firing, and considering what’s been going on with the restaurant industry, totally justified.
Are you controlled opposition? The intent is to divide and destroy, best to choose a side and support it at all costs. IMO
Toddler argument? Are you too infantile to understand that in Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals he states to use our morality and propensity to play fair as a weapon against us? Shall we pout or prevail?
Sounds like the position of a real Christian. I could respect you for that, but I can’t respect Christianity for that.
They don’t, but so what? If that’s how you really think, then you best be learning Mandarin.
My mom APPLAUDS Biden and Fauci with their fantasy-based rules and regs. All I tell her is “You’ve allowed a precedent to be set. Let’s see if you’re still clapping when they come after something YOU hold dear.”
Tyranny is tyranny…
Watcha gonna do when they come for YOU? Don’t call me!
There are no vaccine mandates in the state of Texas. So the restaurant owner just made a non-vaccine mandate for his business. This is not fighting vaccine mandates at all, because there is none. This is actually quite childish and stupid of him. I’m going to bookmark this page for later ( 6 months or a year) because I see one hell of a lawsuit coming for the vaccinated employees that are fired. You cannot fight vaccine mandates in a jurisdiction that has no vaccine mandates. The unvaxed are not at war with the people who were duped into receiving the vaccines, they are at war with the vaccines themselves and the bureaucrats and big pharma that are pushing them. This move by the business owner serves no point. It does not “Own the libs” or the “vaccinated”. I’m betting he’ll lose his ass in court over this move.
This was not about Texas specific mandates, it was Biden’s in the works national mandate for companies with over 100 employees. This business owner is just being proactive, make no mistake about it, the 100+ mandate enforcement is coming, book it.
Didn’t Greg Abbott already take care of that one?
I think that is already being challenged in court.
The court challenges are farts in the wind, there is case precedent that will prevail. Also, did no one learn anything with Obamacare court challenges.
Didn’t Abbot’s ban on vaccine mandates and passports prevail?
no, it’s got more holes in it than a screen door.
Court, Schmourt. The businesses are mandating it for their employees and customers. Brain Dead Joe is going to Chicago to twist United CEO Scott Kirby’s (ASAFA grad.) arm to mandate vax passports for customers too as he has mandated all United Airlines employees get the jab.
IF employment in Texas is “at will’ then the owner can fire his employees for any reason whatsoever …. except for reasons of race, religion, etc.
Correct, but “Reasons” can be challenged in court. I do not know with what degree of success. Nevertheless, this move serves no purpose at all. It does not thwart a vaccine agenda at all. Also, what’s to stop a person applying for the job as the replacement from being vaccinated and lying and saying they are instead unvaccinated? With these vaccinations, there is proof of vaccination. With the unvaccinated, there is no proof of unvaccination. Is there a central database that an employer can look up in Texas to find out an employees vaccination status?
He’s not hiring replacements for these workers. He is divesting of enough workers to get below the 100 employee threshold. So, no openings, no applicants need apply whether lying or not.
Not necessarily — according to the local physician in B.C. Canada, the d-dimer test is a pretty good proxy for telling if someone (otherwise previously healthy) took the shit shot. It is a test for serious levels of micro-clotting.
Maybe the guy is wrong in firing or not hiring the vaccinated — but the answer to your question is: the same thing that stops an applicant from ying about anything — that is, nothing, UNTIL the lie is discovered and the employee is very rightly terminated.
That’s regardless of whether a restriction on the vaccinated is the right thing to do or not.
P.S. the phrasing of your comment reveals that you’re okay with vaccine mandates.
As long as he’s under a hundred employees he’s ok, that appears to be the plan
True indeed. Still despicable.
Wrong about the vaccine mandates in Texas. Texas businesses can indeed mandate vaccines. state and local governments cannot.
Texas is also a ‘right to work’ state.
The unvaxxed may not be at war with the vaxxed but the vaxxed sure do seem at war with the unvaxxed.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=can+texas+businesses+mandate+vaccines&cvid=169e01913908406d84a38f4b18f5ac6c&aqs=edge..69i57.12029j0j4&FORM=ANAB01&PC=U531
No one even knows if that video is real or not yet. Me thinks you’re getting your panties in a wad a bit too soon.
It would be despicable if we weren’t in a war.
But, we ARE at war. It’s Us vs Them. That is established fact. Or, haven’t you read where so many of Them want Us dead, literally.
War is hell. Despicable things comes with the territory, on both sides. Nothing you can do about it … except grow some balls and take it like a man.
Finally.
You mean we will have to turn off the ball game and cancel the BBQ and act like a man? AAIIEEE
Stuck – the thing about having ethics and standards is that a person really only has them when things get tough. That is the test. Seems some folks around here have abandoned any semblance of decency because ‘well, Johnny does it too”.
Where are the men of character, where “I may not agree with what you say but will fight to the death for you right to say it?” These are the tough times, and no the time to toss away character because the other side doesn’t fight fair. I worked too hard to develop a sense of right and wrong, and am not going to let that go because some assholes have no character.
Does that logic also apply in a hot war where someone is shooting to kill you? It’s unethical to kill someone, right? But, it’s necessary in war. Does your character house take a hit when you have to kill someone…even though it’s wrong to take a life?
If this guy does not play the game and get his numbers below 100, then he takes a shot. He’s got to protect himself somehow. How do you suggest he do it?
Who said it is wrong to take a life? Self defence or in defence of one’s family, friends, property, or sometimes nation are all legitimate reasons to do so in my opinion. And yes, that logic does apply in war. Men of character do not kill prisoners, for example.
How does he do it? He fires employees that are worst performing, have the highest rate of absenteeism, who are least skilled, who are not cross trained, etc. There are many business based criteria that can be used for firing someone.
It is a short leap from firing someone who is vaxxed/unvaxxed to firing them for religious reasons, freedom of speech reasons (which is happening a lot), for political reasons, etc. And it is all despicable.
Looks like he is practicing a form of self-defense to me.
How do you know he didn’t fire his worst employees first? If I were a business owner, I’d want employees who can think for themselves. Do you think the vaxxed are people who are skilled at thinking for themselves?
“…it is all despicable.” I agree with you, but then again, we’re not in times of peace.
Abigail – the premise is he fired only the vaxxed. You present hypotheticals. We are discussing the base premise – that he fired only vaxxed.
Well, again…the vaxxed have proven they can’t think for themselves. They listened to their government to tell them what to do. I would not want that type of employee.
Abigail – that is past moronic and entirely into brain dead. If you have an employee it is possible to measure their performance. If you consider all the stupid shit people do outside of work and base hiring decisions on that, you would have no employees. You never had any employees, did you.
I do now. Measuring performance is important…but times are changing. These are not the old days of corporate America. IMO it’s important to keep those under attack employed, and let those go who could possibly cause you harm in the very near future. We are playing by different rules now. My utmost priority is protecting those under attack at this point in time.
It’s all about letting go of old ideas and understanding what is happening to us, here and now.
Lucy is trying to move the football Charlie Brown.
Not moving it. Just seems there is some myopic thinking going on here.
Llpoh, wasn’t there a requirement to get vaxxed if 100+ employees? WTF? Nature fixes stupid by culling. This is a biological world not a fallen world. Your premises are wrong. You don’t consider the ‘right’ to remain unvaxxed. Always the Leftists and garbage and anti-white people matter more than rational white men. I’m fucking sick of it. I don’t care how you dress it up. Pain is pain. I am numb to arguments in my way.
Would you fire all the non-red people and recover your culture if you could, chief? Christianity asserts culture does not matter.I say it does. Group cohesion matters. Unqualified love is entropy and foolishness.
No.
Can I get an AMEN for Llpoh? I know that is right……
AMEN!! And, again, AMEN!!!
The ol’ Injun is imparting a LOT of wisdom in this thread. I hope people are paying attention.
AMEN brother Stucky, and Reality Doug is quickly becoming the shit stain on humanity’s underwear.
A cardinal rule of military science is to disrupt enemy communications not protect it. Your hard-earned values are fallacious. Sucks to work hard in a way that has no chance. Masculinity owes up to fallacies and grows. There is no earthly reason for your position. You can only be right for a heavenly reason. You must take Xian seriously, so I give you credit for intellectual integrity. Too bad you can’t scrutinized axiomatic faith as well as it’s earthly application.
Llpoh-Depends on the decisions but in this case I agree with you because I think this guy is looking for free advertising and notoriety. He should have made it known in advance he did not want vaxed workers. I’ll suffer the slings and arrows with you on this one. 🙂
I don’t think it was that big a deal to him until the typical gubmint dumbfuck policy made its appearance: a 100-person-limit-or-pay-a-fine mandate (dictate). Then he reacted in a way meant to preserve his business. Sure there’s probably a bit of self-promotion involved, but he’ll need new un”vaccinated” customers to help him stay afloat, so good for him.
A lot of people I know and like have taken the shit shot; I’m sorry they were brainwashed or otherwise too myopic to understand what’s going on, but none have been asshats to me about refusing it. I think the gubmint and media, but I repeat myself (h/t chris plante), are the ones stoking all this anti-vax vitriol. So fuck’em all, and if the regular person who is “vaxxed” gets caught in the crossfire — as happened here — then that is the price they pay to be on the wrong side of morality, ethics, and liberty.
The lines are drawn, not by us, but we damn sure will react when required to.
This is why a hot CW2 (or any war for that matter) will be (is) so devastating — because many mostly innocent, and many innocent, non-combatants become collateral damage.
This guy should have gathered up the restaurant owners in the area , said to them, “stand with me on this 100% vax thing”, and had numbers on his side. SOLIDARITY in numbers is the only way.
DS- This is Jedi mind games right now, the Bolshies won’t stop at a hundred, soon it will be any employees past the owners all the way down to (1). People who work in restaurants are generally low income and I hate to see these poor schmoes lose their job without some kind of organized rebellion first.
DS- He should have organized ALL the TX restaurant owners into a video to chant, “Fuck Joe Biden”. Git it????
Yes, I can’t deny that they’ll move the goal posts, and I agree that he needs to band together with other owners. But he took action against this shit, and I can’t fault him for that. The “vaxxed” workers are paying a price, but I covered that above. I said back at the beginning of this shit (to some liberal co-workers), when it was “just” mask mandates, that if people put up with it then it will never end. Well, I was right.
Agree
Thank you. Perhaps one day we will all stick together.
I’m with you on that. For want of cohesion because of petty squabbles over unimportant shit, a true community of strength was never formed.
Wrong. White Christians were in the driver’s seat and now are being eliminated. White Christians only have themselves and their religion to blame. Time to smell the data of the last 50 fucking years.
White Christians have been ejected from the driver’s seat now.
Can’t wait to gasp in amazement while you and whomever it is you imagine to be so superior seize the initiative and fix things!
RD — if you’re replying to me: I was talking about our reality here and now, and going forward. ‘Murica is dead and it’s people fractured, a meaningful remnant need to band together if we can agree on basic tennats of a sound community. Sadly, it will take near obliteration and survival mode to kick in — only then will all of the bullshit concerns drop away leaving a few common core values to unite around. But will it be too late by then? Are we too individualistic, us erstwhile Americans?
DS, I was responding to your comment. You don’t understand that human nature varied and mostly dispicable. Christianity hides that fact. All together in a suicide pact is not winning; therefore, all together is not necessarily a good thing. It is a terrible thing. It is exactly how we got into this mess. Still not, you know.
Disagreement is not the same thing as incomprehension, he remarked to nobody in particular.
First of all, I said nothing about Christianity — I agree that it is a dead letter at this point, in terms of what passes for it today. It’s been corrupted and most of the sheep don’t even sniff a clue. Second: perhaps I’ve misunderstood your overall arc — I thought you generally advocated ‘tribe up or die’. I believe it, but I think we’re pretty much incapable of it at this point.
#tooFracturedin’Murica
I’m more culture up than tribe up, but I can only agree with this particular comment, DS. I have invested in those who can’t sniff a clue and recommend against it.
What’s wrong with trying to get free air time?
Glock- For shame, you think the guy should starve 47 families? what if it was you that got canned?
What if one day you have to starve everyone who won’t say, “Hail Satan”?? It’s coming, so are you in favor of starving Christians too??
I think an awful lot of good points have been made above by others. LLPOH, I believe has this all wrong. Yes, he has good thoughts on many things but, this one is off the rocker imo. Abigail is right, this is a war going on right now. How you going to fight it? If we believe in freedom, then this guy can do whatever he wants. I include his freedom to deny service to anyone for any reason. We have fallen a looooooooooooooong way from freedom. Without freedom, we got nuttin.
It’s a war for freedom. I say abandon morality until we have won. If we do not, we will lose to the most despicable among us. Either that or GOD himself will deliver us from evil.
Glock, Glock, Glock….You leave out the most important combatants in this war. This war can not, must NOT be us against each other. It must be us against the elite pirate class who want you dead and gone, the criminals who steal from us daily, those who stack EVERY DECK against us and IN THEIR favor. You are so terribly confused as to who is fighting who. Again I say (just as our founders said) Together We Stand, Divided We Fall. We must not stab one of our own in the back, that is not an act of freedom. My God man, think about what you are saying.
And the war must be fought from the high ground of moral principle, right and wrong, and it must be fought by men and women of character who do not abandon such when times are tough. Attacking innocents is despicable, it is wrong, and I will never associate with those that do such.
Men and women have the right of free speech, and freedom of association. I will not punish them for the mere exercising of such rights. I will defend if they infringe upon my own. I will oppose if they attempt to strip me of my rights. But I will allow them to exercise their rights without punishing them for doing so.
LLPOH
If I remember correctly, you said you’d do anything to win a physical fight. Including biting off someone’s balls. Does that sound like something an honorable man would do? 🙂
I don’t see the vaxxed as innocents. For the most part, I see them as complicit, of low character and cowards. Stay away from stupid. Anyone who has investigated/researched about the jab and Covid but still got vaxxed (unless they did a benefit/cost comparison based on their age and health) fall into one of those groups.
I get it. Honor, integrity and morality but war is a bitch.
Covid and the world wide reaction to it, imo, will be the biggest thing to happen on earth since the resurrection of Jesus.
What is your plan? How you going to fight back? If you did not do EVERYTHING in your power and lose, what are you going to say to yourself?
Or maybe he was not interested in the jabned status of his employees either because he doesn’t think it’s anyone’s business what a person’s private health care decisions do. Since he didn’t fire them earlier that’s what it appears.
But now he has to shrink his work force because of the vaxstappo so he’s jettisoning the jabbed ones. He’s laying off the jabbed, who will have no problem finding employment so they won’t be the ones starving. They can go fill some of the millions of available positions which by the way are available exclusively to the dirty blooded.
And now he doesn’t have to force the rest of his employees to have to decide between feeding their families or to take an un safe gene therapy concoction.
It’s a classical triage approach
Although he does seem to be enjoying it a bit much.
This is why fat feminist cunts, tattooed and hole-punched freaks, disgusting faggot trannies, and street-shitting foreigners are all you see at some businesses.
But no one wants to ‘work’ anymore! It’s a mystery.
He had to get under that 100 employee limit (I’m sure Biden will lower that in the future). Who would you have fired?
Llpoh,will I agree to a point he had to cut to under a 100 or lose his businesses.
Soon,it will be if you have even one employee.
We need to fight and fight like we mean it,which includes a though try to avoid a willingness to die to leave a better world for the youngers.
I had a good ride in this life despite some serious downers,feel I owe to a degree the future gens a better chance to also enjoy life.
Of course we need to fight. But to deny someone a job because of a personal choice? That is not fighting. That is joining the dark side.
The alternative choice would have been to either fire the vast majority of his employees, who are unvaccinated, forcing them into a job market where they can’t be allowed to work, or to violate the Nuremberg Code and coerce them into taking a potentially life
threatening gene therapy injection with no recourse for any injuries,
That’s the real dark side.
Especially since there are tens of millions of un filed job vacancies nationwide. Which the vaccinated can fill but the unvaccinated can’t.
LLPOH
Can you show me any war that was bright and cheery?
Liberal lovin’ Loopy is comes out from hiding to display some Justin Trudeau like virtue signaling. Shake my head. Have you liberated your prison colony yet?
Mushroom Cloud …. how long have you been here?
— Llpoh is anything but “liberal lovin'”
— just because he’s not posting much these days, doesn’t mean he’s hiding
— Loopy … that’s a cheap and gratuitous insult
— Llpoh is absolutely the last person on TBP to engage in “virtue signaling”. He tells it like it is, every time. And we all know it.
— I’d bet my life that Llpoh’s house and property are miles and miles above what you have … makes you feel good though, doesn’t it, to throw out the “prison colony” crap. Ohmigod, as if the USA!USA!USA! isn’t a prison colony.
Well, I must close this out. I’m just beating around the bush. What I really want to ask, and it is a sincere question, is … WAS IT REALLY NECESSARY TO BE SUCH A FUCKING ASSHOLE??
Thanks Stuck. And someone above said there were no trolls around here. Seems the place is full of them.
I wouldn’t say the US is a prison colony, not quite yet. But some of the individual states certainly are.
You’re on record here stating that you would mandate the vax for your employees to avoid liability exposure, and to help your bottom line.
Actually, that is a lie. An out and out lie. I said that odds are I would have closed my business first.
Another fuckwit troll.
I remember that comment. I believe you said you would do one or the other…close or force the mandate. I believe you have also said the employers have a duty to keep everyone safe (customers and employees).
I said I most likely would close. There are aspects that make it difficult to know for certain – for instance, by closing it could toss many employees into unemployment, and the jobs perhaps would not be recoverable, which is no easy decision to make, as the human cost of such decisions is high.
I also said my opinion is that employers would better protect themselves and would assume less risk if they wanted to stay in business by firing the unvaxxed as opposed to assuming risk associated with health and safety laws.
I did not say I agreed with what was happening. But I damn accurately forecast what has and is and will continue to happen.
LLPOH
But GUESS WHAT? You’d be on the side of our oppressors. They are pushing EVERYONE into a morality conundrum. No matter what you do, you’re right and wrong at the same time. Soooooooooooo, what should a person do? Play the looooooooooooong game. Go for the win. Put society back together again through separation when it is all over.
You never answered my question yesterday. I asked you about China. Will you feel you made the best choice to leave America if China takes over Australia? Is that a long shot? What do I know.
EDIT: I probably should have worded this comment a bit differently. I’m just trying to say that we ALL have a responsibility to fight back in anyway we can. I believe it is a duty.
What’s wrong with fighting back?
For example, the nation has accepted firing people for failing a urine test for quite some time now. Personal decisions are no longer valid if you’ve allowed yourself to slip into collectivism, as our national mindset appears to be at this time. So… what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, as the saying goes.
Isn’t that’s what full automation is for? Then you can fire everyone and feel good about it, and give some explanation that it’s about the bottom line.
Coal – if anyone ever feels good about firing someone via automation I never met him or her. Most people are incapable of firing someone – it is very hard to do. And the ones that I have met that are capable of it never enjoyed it – quite the contrary.
Automation is about competing. About becoming more efficient – producing more with less. If business doesn’t do that, they generally go out of business. And it often is not about improving the bottom line, but about trying to maintain it and not go broke.
….and here we are today. No one has much money with $10/hr jobs, much is not being sold, all it takes is the weakest link in the just-in-time chain to not pay their bills and then no one can make anything, and everything is going belly up.
Coal – the $10 you mention is misleading. 10% of the wage earning population makes under $11.26, and a great many of them will be young and students.
So, would you have business go broke rather than automate? Broke employers employ no employees.
Automation is just another excuse to get rid of whatever American employees they couldn’t figure out how to outsource. But none of it matters now. As I told people 10 years ago, all of the shelves will go empty, and since no one has a solution they refuse to admit to, there will be no employees or businesses if there’s nothing to sell. We’re about to see the biggest liquidation in history.
Herd animals are so proper about not attacking up the hierarchy. We can’t afford the gravy train and the police state. What does the administrative gymnastic skills or moves of employers matter? War is war. Those who don’t see the war are my enemy by default. Fucking budniss adz u shuel.
All of what I call a harvesting mentality by the 1% where they reap everything to death is the reason we’re in the mess we’re in, and the Government and Justus legal system has codified it. They’re harvesting what little is left, and they have to put their boots on the populace just to save their sorry hides. If we collapse peacefully then so be it, or if everyone of them and their shills have to be eradicated, that’s fine by me. I suppose in the next few months we shall see which ways it goes. I know if someone tries to put their foot on my head, I won’t stop shooting until the gun is empty.
present tense, the shelves are going empty, I see it every day at the Big Box stores and the groceries
Those soon to be bankrupt and empty big box stores would make great clothing and shoe factories. Oops- they fucked over the Singer Sewing Machine Company years ago by allowing in cheap imports and they stopped making industrial sewing machines in the early 1960’s.
Still not getting it, Llpoh. You would be correct if this weren’t war. I assert that it is. All useful idiots are a clear and present danger. And he had no equally good option. He did not make the choice; he made the right call given the imposed circumstances.
Of course it is war, of a sort. He showed himself to be of poor character. You can be a total moron at times. Even war has rules, if you are a person of character with a sense of morality. Innocents should not be the target of war.
I think what’s happening here is that your mind is struggling to adapt to changing times. Life is not going to be fair for a lot of people right now.
His choices, lay off the 90 unjabbed, or force the injection on them, or fire the 40 jabbed ones, to get under the artificial number of the yet to be written and certainly un constitutional and illegal mandate.
Do you prefer he fire the 40 or so innocents who can go out and get another job at the expense of the 90 or so who can’t?
Innocents should not be the target of war.
Totally agree, but of course they always are, are they not? I covered this previously. As for morality in war, well that is an oxymoron. I know what you mean, but I’m pretty sure there’s a limit to how much morality one can preserve in a Sarajevo-type situation, which may well erupt in many cities before this is all over. I hope it doesn’t come to that, because I understand there will be collateral damage to innocents — there always is…
From the perspective of law of the jungle, there is no innocence. Reminds me of the train scene in Atlas Shrugged. You are looking at this in total isolation as if we are gods who can block out realilty. Ridiculous. You can’t have an economy without culture and politics. If he wants to defend is economy he must defend his culture and politics. And again, the unvaxxed get to stay employed and unvaxxed (for now).
There is always collateral damage. But the guy we are discussing directly targeted them, and they were not collateral damage. They were sought out intentionally.
Sure is, but if you fight in the octagon and you follow Marques of Queensbury rules while the other fellow is following MMA rules then you will lose ever time.
You can’t play nice if the other side is playing dirty, not if you want to win.
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How is this yay? Asking for all of the unshot people who were fired for their choices.
It’s “yay” because tens of thousands will lose their jobs because they won’t take the Shit Shot …. and it’s a joy to see the situation reversed this one time!!!!
Just this one time Stuck?
dawg- But IT IS only going to be one time, so what does this guy really prove other than these employees and their families will suffer.If we all just stab each other in the back to save ourselves and don’t solidify into a single force, there will be no stopping the mandates.
I’m sure some of those woke “vaxx”tard employees of his don’t give a shit about you, BL, you unvaxxed heathen. So I wouldn’t lose too much sleep over it…
DS- Heathens are the problem. Please see my reply to GNL, it won’t always just be about vaxxing.
Look at it this way, he SAVED the jobs of 92 employees, and allowed them to continue feeding their families. These shots are deadly, so he SAVED his business, also. It is not unethical to protect your investments. His remaining employees are getting a raise, so that will solidify this group. This encouragement will help our cause. He didn’t stab anyone, the ones fired allowed someone else to stab them.
Vig- HE COULD HAVE HAD THE UNVAXED TEST EACH WEEK. Millions are testing each week, even Admin. so fuk you and your enjoyment of financial ruin for 47 families in this country who didn’t have to suffer…..asshole.
I don’t trust those test swabs either. I saw a video about them consisting of nanofibers that break apart easily and can deposit the graphene oxide in your nasal cavity. Maybe that’s not true, but then why were they shoving those swabs way up inside your sinus next to your brain case? If they were doing DNA testing for “covid”, then why not just swab your tongue or inner nostril like all other DNA tests?
I have to nostril rape twice per week in lieu of a shot that I’ll never take. The tests don’t go that high into the nose anymore. That said, they still aren’t fun.
God damn, you’re an idiot, BL! There is a coalition of ‘Satan’ that has thousands of insiders and millions of lackeys and you blame this employer for not saving his employees. Did you ever stop to think that maybe the fucking real human problem should be ‘fixed’? Did that ever cross your fucking mind! When you are in a situation that you can only save one of your children if you positively act and choose one over the other, and if you don’t choose either they both die, what do you do? Does it ever occur to you the sin of helping evil take government force this far? DOES IT!!!!! See that elephant in the room stepping on all the testicles of Western men. Could you fucking acknowledge that? Jesus. This shit never happened under bigoted white patriarchy.
They won’t face financial ruin unless they want to there are millions of unfilled jobs nationwide. And since the so called test won’t be available after December, testing is going to be rather difficult.
BL
They are not going to be ruined. For christ sakes. All I hear about is all the help wanted signs all over America. Do your part to save your brothers and sisters in their struggle to keep ownership of their own bodies. Freedom is costly. Hopefully it will cost our enemies the most.
Glock, True there are jobs in cities in the food service industry. How do you know this is not some jerk water Texas small town(s) where this man runs his operations? Not so easy to scare up a job in small towns these days Glock. What if they don’t have the money to move or drive long distance to new employment?
BL,
I had a conversation with my wife JUST TONIGHT about this. We are prepared to do what we can for those hurt by this Godless government. We do not have a large house but WE WILL take in someone we believe has been ful<ed by the system. We should all commit to doing this. IMO.
That is precisely why I am pissed about my life. What was go along to get along this past 50 fucking years? It’s not just since 2020. There is no fucking we. I wish TV were more entertaining than repeating myself, Goddammit.
RD you ignorant shit stain, you blather but never say anything of purpose. What is your point? I blame any person who shit cans almost 50 families at his whim when he could have had them test weekly, but he only cares for himself and you can bet he set up a karma debt that will bite him in the ass so hard that even you will feel it Doug. Either we stick together or we sink, that guy has no loyalty to ANYONE. Maybe that is why you think he’s so great.
Damn, Stucky, lol! You are THE KING of the shit stirrers.
Laughing at the bold and exclamation points. You are an expert shit stirrer. You run a close 2nd to my ex. I see what he is trying to do. It puts him down to Dementias level.
We didn’t make the “rules” but we’re expected to play by them. Turnabout is fairplay, wouldn’t you say? He’s only responding rationally, as a business owner would be expected to act. This is why I don’t get Mr. Rational Businessman LLPOH’s repsonse.
Another benefit is that the clean & pure employees, and customers, will be safer since they no longer have to interact with the shit spike (SS) shedders.
Meanwhile, private companies with more than 100 employees will be subject to a forthcoming rule from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration requiring all employees to be vaccinated or get tested weekly. Biden announced the regulation weeks ago, but the agency is still drafting the particulars.
So, the shots are mandated for everyone EXCEPT…
“The groups that have been exempted from getting the vaccines, all of Congress, plus all the congressional staff, House, and the Senate. That’s a lot of people. 6,000 White House employees, all exempted. 2,500 Pfizer employees exempted. 1,500 Moderna employees and 120,000 Johnson and Johnson employees, all exempt. 15,000 CDC, 14,000 FDA employees exempted…”
and..
“Congress is exempt from the COVID-19 vaccine mandate, as are the Judicial branch and the United States Post Office (USPS). These governmental branches are exempt in their own right—but not because of Biden’s EO. The vaccine mandate exemption in Biden’s EO applies only to the Executive Branch.”
And illegals are also exempt…in America the smartest move for all of us is to be here illegally. Rio Grande here I come….
https://uncoverdc.com/2021/09/21/congress-executive-judicial-branches-usps-exempt-from-vaccine-mandates/
Don’t forget the prions, as they do take some time to manifest. Who needs employees with declining brain power?
Declining brain power.
The Democrats need them, as voters.
DS – that is some really dumb shit right there. There is nothing whatsoever rational about firing people in the manner he has done. I fired thousands of people in my career, and I never fired a single one for there personal beliefs. It was always performance based or based on business need. Always. Some very horrible people worked for me for decades. That they were horrible outside of work was not my issue. My issue was what they do at work, and if they add value and don’t cause trouble, that was all I based my business decisions on.
Times have changed, bro — as I said in a previous comment, the un”vaxxed” didn’t start this shit and we’re gonna be hard pressed to weather more incoming shit before it’s over. So better buck up and start playing for keeps and be smart about what you do. Perhaps this guy’s best play was to fold his business and put all his employees out of work; that way he could avoid the attention he’ll get from the woketards.
I was going to vouch for you in a comment above where you refuted a Anons lie — because I remember reading the post in which you said that you would probably fold before mandating the shit shot. And then you all but call me a dumbshit. Whatever, man, I’m not here to call people names or tell people to piss off.
It was always performance based or based on business need.
Maybe his business needed to trim staff to comply with a shitty mandate or fold. Either way, people are getting fired — at least a lesser amount than if he completely closed down.
Didn’t call you a dumbshit. But when you post something stupid, I may well call it out. And saying that firing people based on vax status is rational is stupid. It is simply not rational. Not in any way. Rational is to keep your most valuable employees, irrational is to ignore that imperative.
I think you make a valuable contribution.
Value is not strictly economic or slavery would be optimal!
I agree with you that it would be wrong to fire the vaxxed — in the absence of a 100-person-or-fine gubmint mandate. But once that hit, all bets are off. And we’re talking about restaurant employees, not high-skill manufacturing here where there is a significant premium on “quality” and “value” of the employee. Moreover, I also argue elsewhere on this thread that the spike shedding issue is a salient consideration, even if he didn’t mention that or even consider that risk.
Business above all else could be said to be a big part of our problems.
People here and elsewhere have written about creating an alternative society. This is one way to start creating it.
People wonder how to form a community with like-minded individuals. This is a necessary part of it.
Also, they drew first blood. This guy had a business and did not make this decision in the absence of the AGGRESSIVE PROGRAM OF EXCLUSION FROM SOCIETY that has begun to be implemented by TPTB and their candy-assed enablers over the last year and a half.
National DIVORCE Now!!! Stop the pain.
#texit
And, hurry!!!!
#pleasetakeAlberta
Fyi, he got fired not the employees
This is fake news
Fuck off fake poster.
Chase the actual story homey. I’ve been here since 2008.
You’re full of shit.
Unless you’re a regular now hiding behind being Anon …. which, again, means you’re full of shit.
If you know the truth, then YOU paste the link. Can’t do it? OK, once again, you’re full of shit.
I can’t really take you seriously. I’ve been posting here off and on since around 2008. If my employer found out who Coalclinker really is, I’d be fired immediately.
Which would be totally wrong. As wrong as for firing you for being unvaxxed.
But you should know by now that Stuck is a very serious fellow tempered by a great sense of humor and wit.
Who ever said anything has ever been fair? No one can be honest because so much is crooked. I sit back in my general anonymity and laugh at a lot of the people around me who take everything seriously. If I say one thing that deviates from the “norm” they would stick my head on a pike. And yes, Stucky is indeed amusing when he stirs the litter box and that smell permeates the house.
But this is not fake news:
https://www.cbs17.com/news/north-carolina-news/nc-businesses-received-645-million-in-federal-restaurant-relief-heres-who-got-the-most/
From the article:
“Roughly 6,600 eateries across the state sought a total of $1.6 billion from the Restaurant Revitalization Fund, said Lynn Minges, the president and CEO of the North Carolina Restaurant and Lodging Association. “There’s just not enough money,” Minges said.”
How can I meet this guy?!?
I see I got a downvote while TX Patriot got an upvote…and we basically said the same thing. Interesting.
I up-voted to even it out.
NEVER try to figure out voting. I’d say at least 25% of the time it makes no sense whatsoever. It might be the chimpanzees who visit here.
I think chimpanzee is the right word.
Stuck, you old dawg, you done it again!!!
Keep digging.
And do not spare us the pretty stuff.
What is the restaurant name(s) and where are they located? If close enough, I want to give them a try!!!!
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
This stinks as much as what the other side is doing. Vaccinating against COVID should be a matter of personal choice. PERIOD. This guy just forced NOT vaccinating. WRONG!
Doing heroin is A PERSONAL CHOICE, firing druggies is WRONG! Being a bugchaser is a personal choice, firing syphilitic AIDS carriers is WRONG, and btw you can pay for their health care while you’re at it!
A year and a half of this shit, and you still want to just bend over and take it? People lost jobs, were forced to move, go through humiliation rituals on a daily basis.
When someone fights dirty, and you refuse to ‘stoop to their level’, that doesn’t make you noble. It makes you an idiot.
Was getting that pussy transplant operation painful?
LMFAO!
More painful than talkin’ drywall?
Vaccinating against COVID should be a matter of personal choice.
Yes! It SHOULD be.
The fact that it IS NOT, is not this guy’s decision. We can either have NONE of this shit, or we (me, at least) can demand more of what this guy is doing. I’m happy with either result. STOP the vaccine mandates (and the passport roll-out) entirely … OR … war.
It’ll be interesting to see how many people take a vaccine made with ricin.
https://tv.gab.com/channel/davecullen/view/kieran-morrissey-speaks-about-potential-marburg-6151a06451dee48dd9215821
It just depends how hard it gets pushed by pharma, .gov, academia, the medical establishment, and the media. If it gets the full court press we’ve received for the shit-shot, I assume the same number and type of people would swallow a pill of pure ricin if “the science” told them to.
Hoooooooooooorrrrrraaaaaaaaaay! Excellent, its about time that the real sick people paid the price for their obedient stupidity.
It would have been better to grant every single exemption request, imho. It would be documented and would show his employees that he does actually care.
Instead he seems like a terrible person to work for if employees are only numbers on the ledger, chattel that can be cut loose easily. His business-his rules I suppose.
What the hell are you talking about? You might want to watch the video again.
Just a note on the covid vac front – I have seen multiple reports of the vaxxed being the super spreaders and infecting those in close proximity. From the health perspective, it makes sense to remove super spreaders from the area.
This is the standard mechanism for deluding the ‘dissidents’ into thinking they have ‘won’.
The reader imagines that his enemies are crying aloud in dismay at this setback, that they are stunned into near speechlessness by this unexpected volley of Turnabout Victory. “Haha, how do you like it, Lefty!?” they imagine themselves sneering in the face of some person who is responsible for this mess. Someone they can finally vent their spleen upon.
We’re gonna show ’em this time!
It’s entirely meaningless, of course. Our overlords do not even notice and their useful idiots, incapable as they are of logic or reason, will derive no useful reflection from it either.
“We are at war!” somebody said up-thread. Dear Lord! That kind of remark is what I was referring to when I mentioned that stories like thus are the standard method by which Wrong Thinkers are deluded. I think that’s the only reason they are disseminated at all.
It’s not even a thimble draining the Pacific in terms of any kind of progress or victory.
The ‘right’ is brainwashed too, and by the same Brainwashers.
Yeah, ok…but it feels good…
Why do you have to be so reasonable??
Welcome to outrage porn/ Larper central. It’s all they do here.
I’d like to be his friend.
Yeah, some people have the ability to think and reason, Stucky is shit stirring but I know he is wise enough to see through this.
You know you’re buying right into the divide and conquer strategy by cheerleading this, right?
The media has many of the vaxxed believing that the unvaxxed are dangerous. You are being influenced by the mainstream media just the same if you cheerlead against the vaxxed, while thinking you are free-willed. In fact you’re just reacting exactly how you are being programmed to react.
Great name.
I doubt the restaurant keeps vaccinated customers from eating there.
Just a thought.
Wow, you’re smart. I’ll be reading more of your posts in the future.
Everything going on has always been about divide and conquer, but when half of the population sees how naked the Emperor really is, and refuse to play the clown game, the Emperor dies.
I am so fucking sick of the paranoia that every fucking move is exactly planned and favors the NWO. The West grew on healthy bigotry and dies on egalitarianism. We need HATE, which is why the Left has criminalized their advantage and why preachers allowed to preach preach against HATE. The Gordian Knot is not undone politely.
It all comes down to you got yours. When you’ve been stripped enough, if you ever are, you will sing a different tune. Sadly, I must for rational reasons hope that Americans and other Westerns loose more and suffer more. It is the only way. You have too much to require minimum standards in society. In a progressive society, minimum standards must progress.
The cult vaxxed are fucking idiots, and useful idiots are my fucking problem. Programmed? Tell me I am being programmed by my murderers to hate my murderers. The fucking unreal morality and sense of personal narrative agency of you fucking privileged subhumans. Can’t hold onto a country, don’t even understand the concept of country, or you don’t care. Grating.
RD — it’s unproductive to run on HATE most of the time; it is more effective in laser-like doses at the right time, against the right target. And delivered more as COLD ANGER to keep it smooth and efficient.
Anger can be a motivator as much as ANY other emotion(?).
They gave him lemons, so he made lemonade.
Vigilant- They’ll give you Satan and you’ll worship him or you will be like the 47 families this guy canned…..starving.
That is brilliant pith, Vigilant. BL is a tomato short of a BLT.
So Doug doesn’t believe the dark side is in charge….. that’s ok he #willgetitoneday. You really don’t get this do you RD? And you were/thought yourself so fukkin smart.
BL
It’s Teddy Beale Disease. Like rabies, it’s hopeless once the symptoms begin to manifest themselves publicly.
Stucky, my faith in my fellow man went down quite a few notches after this thread. These morans should be picked for the “Hunger Games” so they could stab each other to death for a chance to eat Bon Bons in the capitol and be famous.
Well, that was fun! TWO 200 comment threads in ONE day! A rare day of flinging of the poo. If I may broadly categorize the arguments.
The LLPOH group — it’s a war, but let’s fight fair
The BL group —. We’re all brothers and sisters, can’t we get along?
The GNL group — fuck the jabbed, kill ’em all!
The ANON I group — Stucky is a narcissist asshole!!
The MYGIRL group — ALL of you suck Diseased Donkey Dick! 🥰