American Fascism Defined

Even this week there was debate over what fascism means.  “You don’t understand what the word means!”  “No!  YOU don’t, ya moran!”  Here is a short article that gets it right, imho.  Maybe bookmark it for reference in case you run into a maroon.

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American fascism?

By Peter Skurkiss

Fascism is a nebulous term that people throw around as a pejorative, even for minor things.

When asked what they mean by fascism, they’re at a loss. Like the word ‘racist,’ ‘fascism’ or ‘fascist’ is typically used by liberals and their ilk to smear their opponents and to cut off debates. As for those who seriously write about fascism, each seems to have his own definition. Perhaps George Orwell said it best in 1946: “The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies ‘something not desirable.'”

Still, a broad working definition of fascism can be found by going to the source — Benito Mussolini, the father of 20th-century fascism. Mussolini said: “Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.” Looking out over the American landscape, isn’t this almost exactly what we see today, an unholy marriage between the state and big business?

To understand the scope of this, understand that the state is far more than just elected officials. It also includes the massive unelected and mostly unaccountable government bureaucracies which are permanently in place. As for corporations, it includes the mainstream media which could properly be called the corporate media. In the U.S. today, six media behemoths control a whopping 90% of what Americans read, watch, and listen to. They are GE, News-Corp, Disney, Viacom, Timer-Warner, and CBS. Other corporate players include the tech companies, the big banks, and international corporations which are too numerous to mention.

The current Wuhan pandemic provides an excellent illustration of how American corporatism works;

1. —- Pfizer and Moderna produce the COVID vaccines while Washington and many state governments act as cheerleaders for them through their no-excuse vaccination mandates.

2. —- The corporate media spews out praises of the vaccines, all the while lying about their effectiveness and ignoring the adverse reactions to them.

3. —– At the same time, the high-tech companies, which dominate social media, squelch any criticism of the vaccines even when such criticism is presented by highly creditable doctors and scientists and is substantiated by actual results on the ground.

4. —– Government bureaucracies like the CDC and the FDA did their part also by issuing emergency use authorizations (EUA) for these experimental vaccines when effective treatments like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine were available from day one. And FDA still forbids the use of these low-cost generic drugs to treat COVID. And all the while vaccine sales ramp up.

This corporatism goes beyond the COVID vaccines. It’s everywhere. As the government-mandated lockdowns devastated small businesses on Main Street, the wealth of corporate billionaires grew. And ask yourself, since the fiscal crisis of 2008, who has been benefiting from the policies of the Federal Reserve, the big banks, or the average American? And when things get sticky, who gets bailed out, the “too big to fail” banks or the likes of Joe the plumber and Jane the hairdresser?

It’s all so seamless. The state and the big corporations each provide cover for the other. Here’s an example. President Biden said he might use OSHA regulations to force companies of over 100 people to require their employees be vaccinated. And although not such regulations have yet been issued and might never be, many large companies are tripping over themselves to issue such a mandate. One hand here is washing the other.

There’s little dissent between the state and the big corporations as to the overall agenda being perused. And that is to increase centralization and government control over society. The only ones on the outside looking in are the American people, the very ones whom government policies are supposed to benefit. Or as the late comedian George Carlin would have put it: “It’s a big fancy club, and the American people ain’t in it.”

If fascism is too harsh a term for you to describe what is going on in America today, then refer to it as corporatism. Mussolini would understand and approve. But whatever you call it, the fact is the existing de facto merger between the state and large corporations is suffocating the middle and working class of America

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James Humburg
James Humburg
October 10, 2021 4:19 pm

Finally, someone besides me realizes our current tyranny is facism, not communism. Very well said!

Sum Ting Wong
Sum Ting Wong
  James Humburg
October 10, 2021 5:16 pm

But Wuhan virus from China, a communist nation. No country benefit more from covid-19 den China. Da Wuhan virus remove Twump and install chink puppet in White House. Vaccine passports lead to social credit scores like developed in China. Semantic sleight of hand is devils Kung Fu.

i forget
i forget
  Sum Ting Wong
October 11, 2021 1:34 pm

Sum…Semantics, wordplayschool, is the matriculation life that matters most to too many…& there ain’t no black angels w/o all those little white angel weebles to crowdsource crowdfund monstermoshpit crowdsurf on.

fujigm
fujigm
  James Humburg
October 10, 2021 5:20 pm

Call tyranny whatever you want.
Lots of people see it.
And many of those have been refusing to participate.
For years now.
Welcome to the fold.

JoeBob
JoeBob
  James Humburg
October 10, 2021 6:26 pm

Yep

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
October 10, 2021 4:39 pm

Mussolini was originally a socialist who greatly admired Hitler and the Nazi Party. He even ran a socialist newspaper in Italy before formally entering politics. Fascism was always a made up concept to distance himself from the fact that he copied the socialist ideology. Il Duce was just a mobster in a military uniform.

I’ve recently been watching more European entertainment and I got a good chuckle at the Netflix show La Casa de Papel (Money heist) because the show revived the popularity of the WW2 era anti-fascist Italian song “Bella Ciao”.

The irony isn’t lost on me to see the Obama backed Netflix cashing in on fascism rhetoric on a show about thieves.

JoeBob
JoeBob
  Stephanie Shepard
October 10, 2021 6:33 pm

Fascism is the wedding of corporate and governmental powers.

America is a fascist nation.

It has been one for quite some time.

Regardless, while you divided & conquered Americans are arguing with each other, Texas is gonna TEXIT.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
  JoeBob
October 10, 2021 6:42 pm

I wish there was a block button for people like you.

JoeBob
JoeBob
  Stephanie Shepard
October 10, 2021 8:09 pm

I hope that someday you learn to deal with reality.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
  JoeBob
October 10, 2021 8:12 pm

You clearly didn’t read the article.

JoeBob
JoeBob
  Stephanie Shepard
October 10, 2021 10:13 pm

I read the article, and fully understand the simple points that it addresses.

I hope you can focus your passion by studying, and becoming a part of self-determination, pro independence, secessionist, and/or decentralization of power groups.

Like those who ride for the dark side, we can be described, or labeled, as many different things.

The secessionists among you know how to take down the beast.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stephanie Shepard
October 13, 2021 5:30 pm

Fub

Captain_Obviuos
Captain_Obviuos
October 10, 2021 4:53 pm

This is why I love Stucky: You can always find the pile of shit which needs stirring.

I look forward to the responses herein.

another Doug
another Doug
October 10, 2021 4:54 pm

I’ve said this for 30 years. Too big to stop?

Doctor de Vaca
Doctor de Vaca
October 10, 2021 5:13 pm

Fascism and Communism are two sides of the same coin. Either way the Oligarchs get rich while the rest of us get F’d. The root of the word is from the Latin word Fasces which basically means bundle or group. Insinuates strength or and power. A fasces was a bound bundle of sticks. Together and bound the sticks are stronger and more powerful than a single stick alone. That sounds an awful lot like group think and doing things “communally” to me. It’s just a slightly different way of the Oligarchs skinning the same cat, us the people.

Red River D
Red River D
  Doctor de Vaca
October 10, 2021 6:12 pm

I give up.

Can’t get the stupid image to post.

FASCES symbols in the Senate Chamber, either side of the flag.

i forget
i forget
  Red River D
October 11, 2021 1:36 pm

Yup. And a river, too. Cool.

Mel
Mel
  Doctor de Vaca
October 10, 2021 6:59 pm

“…fascism is socialism for big business.”

Ayn Rand

JoeBob
JoeBob
  Doctor de Vaca
October 10, 2021 8:32 pm

No they are not. Communism calls for the end of private property. Fascism does not. These are very different political ideologies.

Obviously, both will lead to tyranny, and the loss of liberty, through centralized power.

America has been led into this state of fascism by corporations, one of which owns your government.

If Americans want to live in a state of liberty they must secede from the federal government, and sever all ties with the federal reserve which supplies the fuel (ever expanding fiat currency) to the global corporations.

Doctor de Vaca
Doctor de Vaca
  JoeBob
October 10, 2021 9:00 pm

You only really get to have private property if you’re part of the big club of Oligarchia. As Klaus the Klown says you’ll own nothing and you will like it. They’re both different piles of shit but in the end they’re still just shit.

JoeBob
JoeBob
  Doctor de Vaca
October 11, 2021 8:01 am

Some of us are taking direct action against the purveyors of this shit.
Most folks are just talk, talk, talk … blah, blah, blah … bah, bah, bah.
Sheeple gonna sheep

Doctor de Vaca
Doctor de Vaca
  JoeBob
October 11, 2021 9:27 am

I take you’ve picked up your weapon and ruck and are walking east.

JoeBob
JoeBob
  Doctor de Vaca
October 11, 2021 1:30 pm

No. You defeat this enemy by seceding from it. Secession is the most effective way of starving the beast.

The weapons we are using to gain our independence from the fascist american government are our minds, our pens, our ability to communicate, organize, and plan.

Anyone can do this.

Doctor de Vaca
Doctor de Vaca
  JoeBob
October 11, 2021 2:21 pm

Trust me Joe Bob. I’m on your side and Balkanization is in our future. Problem is that the Tyrants of Oligarchia, and I don’t care if you call ‘em commies or fascists, they won’t let it happen without a fight. Best have your rifle and ruck ready.

JoeBob
JoeBob
  Doctor de Vaca
October 11, 2021 2:54 pm

We are ready Doc!

My preferred term for them is evil.

Wherever you are I hope you and yours can find a way to live in liberty.

There is more than one way to skin the Devil.

falconflight
falconflight
  JoeBob
October 10, 2021 9:44 pm

Shifting positions of power between the State and the State’s principle power partner, Amerikan supranational corps. Marriages are much the same, no?

Sum Ting Wong
Sum Ting Wong
  JoeBob
October 10, 2021 11:33 pm
    ‘Communism calls for the end of private property. Fascism does not.’

Gweat Weset is stakeholduh capitalwism. Dis actuwilly is fascism. But you own no pwivate pwoperty and be happy. Evweeting owned by big coperwations and state. Can you see?

Middleaged Mad Gnome
Middleaged Mad Gnome
  JoeBob
October 11, 2021 7:53 am

“Communism calls for the end of private property. Fascism does not.” A distinction without a difference. Communist take title to property and control the use of property. Fascist leave title to property with private parties and control what the private parties can do with it.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Doctor de Vaca
October 11, 2021 10:08 am

The only real difference is the armbands.

i forget
i forget
  Doctor de Vaca
October 11, 2021 1:36 pm

Doc…Yeah, but. The skinning tool is an axe. The other business end of a single bit is a hammer. And symboleers love to simplify everything down to a teaspoon’s worth that they say weighs tons. Like Bill Gates. I see him symbolized as the devil whose doin’ it all. The armies of people he pays who are actually doin it all are conveniently ignored. When your only tool is one half “the duality” ~ hammer ~ “everything” needs be one (or as few as possible) nail.

Its Pogo Marsupial, head in its own pouch, that codependently enables ~ shrink-speak ~ the printing of all the fiat ~ more, different, shrink-speak ~ …that spasmodically leads, over & over, to fiat justitia ruat caelum. I.e., it’s just impersonal weather passing thru. Hi-Lo (good flick) pressure swaps Country, not for old wo/men:

Doctor de Vaca
Doctor de Vaca
  i forget
October 11, 2021 2:11 pm

You just got my attention sir, I may not totally understand you but you understand me. I never have seen this movie but I know what I’m watching tonight.

Doctor de Vaca
Doctor de Vaca
  i forget
October 11, 2021 3:19 pm

For you Sir and your powers of divination

i forget
i forget
  Doctor de Vaca
October 12, 2021 4:15 pm

Doc…Interesting story, or friction, around that tune. A lot of stories, maybe all of them, are friction, disguised as lubrication (or maybe music). Rubrication?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_of_the_Sorcerer

Justin Johnson is an exceptional carbon life form player. And this galaxy hitchhiker instrument looksounds – in Justin’s hands – exceptional, too (flashing on Neo, jacking in to Kung Fu mastery, in The Matrix… but this guy ain’t Walter Mitty & the midi ain’t just another pretty fasces axe under his fingers…he also has some tunes up that remind me of Scorcerer…):

The duality. Evolution carbon fiber hotrod ’70 Charger…or Emerald carbon fiber hotrod guitar? No compartments, false distinctions, either/ors: one with/at the wheel, guitar on the backseat. (Check out Speedkore’s Tantrum version, too. Mercury Marine Motor…mmm, indeed.)

“He (TP Gore) particularly loathed Franklin Roosevelt’s phrase “the age of the common man.”

“There was never such an age & never will be & it goes beyond the limits of necessary demagoguery to pretend that could even be such a thing.” He also disliked Lincoln’srhetoric. “Was there ever a fraud greater than this government of, by, & for the people?” He threw back his head, the voice rose: “What people, which people? When he made that speech, almost half the American people had said that the government of the North was not of, by, or for them. So then Lincoln, after making a bloody war against the South, has the effrontery to say that this precious principle, which he would not extend to the Southern people, was the one for which the war had been fought. Well, he did say this at a graveyard for northern soldiers. I suppose that was appropriate.” If I got anything from Dah, it was the ability to detect the false notes in those arias that our shepherds lull their sheep with.” ~ Palimpsest, A Memoir, Gore Vidal

i forget
i forget
October 10, 2021 5:50 pm

Faces grew up, grew long, grew toothy, after Steve Marriott left that band to form Humble Pie.

Black Coffee! (just made mine cup: 1/2caf1/2decaf moka pot, sunflower lecithin, liquid cacao, 1/2n1/2, MCT oil, collagen, frapped in the vitamix…so, foamy café au lait, a miscegenated cup, not black…sipping it thru a borosilicate straw right now.)

Tina Turner: “My skin is brown but my mind is black.” So she expat’d to France, which is a country in equatorial Africa.

Steve Marriott: “My skin is white but my soul is black.” Staying in Britain worked just as well for him.

Faces’cism you say? Dictionary won’t make the beans blend. No matter. It’s simple (as pie…or sayin’ bye-bye). You can book it w/o any books whatsoever.

Scratch a liar, catch a thief (Ray Charles, remember, remember? Not too blind a’tall.).

Scratch a face, most any face, 80 out of 100 you’ll find miscegenated fomentations neath the fasces, & 16 out of 100 faces will be black under there. Whatever the rest, most soles are white, but most of those ol’ scratch au lait to black also. Don’t want to touch, get that close, get CSI evidence under your nails?

Well, fasces-faces, with those eyehole projectors beaming out inner winder soles, are plain axes ~ the axis of weeble ~ whether the edges be bright or dull. So all’s needs do is look…& see.

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Technology…technocracy…tectonicracy.

“Impersonal impeteus,” Aldous Huxley said, in that ’58 interview with braveheart Mike Wallace.

Nic Pizzolatto’s Rust Cohle said,”We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self. This accretion of sensory experience & feeling, programmed, with total assurance, that we’re each somebody. When, in fact, everybody’s nobody.”

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Set aside the personal user illusion, the glacial grind (I only grind fine for my cuppa joe. Someday gonna get one of those Italian burr’rs that have a “chalk dust” setting), the tectonic quaking, & the imp•etuous impetus slides more obviously in place from place to place all the same place.

Doctor de Vaca
Doctor de Vaca
  i forget
October 10, 2021 6:23 pm

What kind of Crack do you smoke? Seems like it contains a little peyote or shrooms.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Doctor de Vaca
October 10, 2021 6:33 pm

I believe it’s stream of consciousness automatic writing…with pictures.

i forget
i forget
  Mygirl...maybe
October 11, 2021 1:38 pm

Mgm…More than one writer-artist-creator has described feeling like a channel, portal. And how that puts taking credit – & so necessarily, I’d say, aspersions – into perspective.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Stucky
October 10, 2021 7:19 pm

I generally cannot struggle through it. I fot try, but give up. I made it to borosilicate straw this time, and abandoned ship. His description of his morning coffee was almost the breaking point – all that crap in a coffee? I put water in coffee grounds, strain it, and drink it. Why does shit have to be so confusing?

i forget
i forget
  Llpoh
October 10, 2021 7:54 pm

Wasn’t always. But an angry pancreas came along. Had to cut the purity. Adapt, or ascetic divorce.

Some wondering: have you escaped the shawshank down under?

Doctor de Vaca
Doctor de Vaca
  Stucky
October 10, 2021 9:15 pm

Different strokes for different folks! It’s all just stoner gibberish to me. Ya’ll have fun with that…if you get something from it great.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Stucky
October 10, 2021 10:38 pm

If I’m right, and I suspect I am, then it takes a highly intelligent person to read his comments. He’s a gem.

i forget
i forget
  Abigail Adams
October 11, 2021 2:09 pm

AA…And you’re a sparkly young diamond yourself. Are you loose? “Portable wealth” that’s called. (Be nimble enough to convert before DeBeers cartel is laid out on the bier, tho; lumps of coal’ll be worth more, then.) And if you’re set, well, have jewelry pliers, will travel, eh?

i forget
i forget
  Stucky
October 11, 2021 2:08 pm

Stucky…Keystroke error. “Gibbonish.” The Decline & Legends of the Fall. Oops, there’s some Jim Harrison in there, too. Bourdain worshipped – loosely – at Harrison’s altar. Apparently B thought of himself as a writer first, raconteur-cook distant second. Too bad he couldn’t write his way out of human”kindness,” into some selfkindness. But what do I know? Maybe he did.

Walt
Walt
  Doctor de Vaca
October 11, 2021 8:29 am

It’s not Gibberish, it’s Gobbledygook.
Gibberish is nonsensical, while Gobbledygook is unfathomablifically and incomprehensitatiously complexical.

Doctor de Vaca
Doctor de Vaca
  Walt
October 11, 2021 9:19 am

I stand corrected it’s gobbledygook. Since I’m not intelligent enough to ascertain it’s meaning I will in the future ignore such posts. He can disseminate his thoughts to his heart’s content. I will stop trying to decipher them because it makes my brain hurt.

i forget
i forget
  Doctor de Vaca
October 11, 2021 2:21 pm

Doc…I remember the headaches. Eventually, they went away. Mostly. “Use it or lose it” is a little bit country lie, a little bit rock&roll truth (or vice versa). For most, me included, “or” is the lie. But using it up is preferable to wasting it, imo.

Now about that “waste not want not” bit….

i forget
i forget
  Walt
October 11, 2021 2:10 pm

Walt…”Gobbledygook,” says the babbling brook, “is just too Mississippi!” And yet all brooks lead to the mighty Miss’s without even trying. Zen Brooks, bein’ the arrow, was here, & narrow, now’s there, & wide. Maybe all paths & courses lead to Zihuatanejo, & old boat restoration.

i forget
i forget
  Doctor de Vaca
October 11, 2021 2:08 pm

Doc…Almost daily I listen to Stones Gimme Shelter. And Dylan’s Shelter from the Storm. And Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door. But nocando the cannabis. Doesn’t shelter me at all, unfortunately.

i forget
i forget
  Stucky
October 11, 2021 2:07 pm

Thanks, Stucky.

i forget
i forget
  Llpoh
October 11, 2021 2:06 pm

LLPOH…Have you put something up about your counterpunching down there? I only deci-click, if that (no way to ford the wide river here, not enough time…). Or is broadcasting that ill advised?

i forget
i forget
  Doctor de Vaca
October 11, 2021 1:37 pm

Doc…None of the above. Had to give up good cabs & fine single malts, too. “Deservin’s got nuthin’ to do with it.”

Doctor de Vaca
Doctor de Vaca
  i forget
October 11, 2021 2:15 pm

Fair enough! I’ll have to ask if I’m totally clueless in the future and have interest. Sometimes a slowly wandering and rambling river on the plains doesn’t appear to know where it’s going but it never fails to get there.

Doctor de Vaca
Doctor de Vaca
  i forget
October 11, 2021 3:14 pm

That’s a shame…a good whiskey now and then helps settle the soul.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  i forget
October 10, 2021 7:26 pm

I sense an autism vibe…always have reading his stuff. Nothing wrong with that.

i forget
i forget
  Abigail Adams
October 11, 2021 2:22 pm

AA…Wonder if that would qualify me for the good parking spots hogged by the handicapped? Not that I’d hang that badge from my mirror. Everybody should compete. On a level parking lot. Special Olympians can have a lot of their own if they can talk somebody into paying for it…there’s classes in sport competition for a reason (but life is sport only in metaphor). Well, there used to be: what do badgeboys competing in female classes see when they look at themselves in the mirror?

Seriously, I asked a psychologist who got into my head, & pants, if I could possibly be Spec(trum)Ops. “Not a chance,” she said. “you’re the most un-oughtistic person I’ve ever known, “she said. “So I ought not do that to you again?” “I didn’t say that,” she said. “Don’t put words in my mouth,” she said. “Actions, the true language, speak louder,” she said.

This was back when more people could parallel park without backup cams, driver-assist, dating apps, etc.

“OK, boomer”?

i forget
i forget
  i forget
October 10, 2021 7:49 pm

I stream you stream we all stream for I stream (some solipsism’rs know where the continental divides, some don’t) …One stream gets too wide for another stream’s banks & the run is on. Breadlines & soup kitchens & brother, can you spare a dime/nsion? Sure, pal. Gotta’ pocket full o’ Mercury. Here’s 98.6 worth (silver’s soft, gradually surfs away, but not just another pretty face value of that handsome coin remains the same). River delta acre feet grows the fertile food, but, sorry, these wide banks are just as overrun by the FedRes banks slosh as yours is, & I can’t do anything about inflated away purchasing/traction power. Compounded interests banks the eight – it’s more fun that way – & stitches a double every 9 games…so, rack ‘em up.

I’ve run thru Oregon. But not convinced Oregon runs thru me. Do know that my ore ain’t gone yet. Not yet.

https://liberalarts.oregonstate.edu/wlf/what-stream-consciousness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imKc2EUCt9E

Hagar
Hagar
  i forget
October 11, 2021 9:29 am

Don’t get the rant much, but the music “Rack Em Up” is great.

i forget
i forget
  Hagar
October 11, 2021 2:23 pm

Howdy Hagar. Yeah, good one from Lang. I meant to put “rule of 72” in there somewhere, that compound interest rule of thumb, but “send” beat me to it. That consciousness streams isn’t too much of a stretch, but sorta like people who live in flood plains, along coasts, get flood flattened from time to time, but then take the subsidized insurance money & rebuild back better right in the same path of instruction, & so convert education to destruction ∞, if the spandex is stretched too far – & not generously subsidized – the leisure suits ~ I like the lime green ones…to look at…on other people ~ lose their fit (rhymes sh…). Some other “decoding” is in the response to Mr. Liberty.

TonyBaloney
TonyBaloney
  i forget
October 11, 2021 12:08 pm

“When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.” – Hunter S Thompson

BL
BL
October 10, 2021 6:52 pm

It’s the same ugly monster that it has always been, the government serving the tyranny of corporatism that is a marriage made in HELL. Even behind that is the added agony of the mafia criminal cartel and that is more than us regular schmucks can take.

The only way to kill the beast of fascist tyranny is to cut off their money and starve them.

Roscoe
Roscoe
  BL
October 10, 2021 9:23 pm

Plus the ranks of the government “workers” (i.e., grifters and parasites) grows without bound and plays a role in the destruction of societies worldwide.

Twat Waffle
Twat Waffle
October 10, 2021 7:39 pm

“All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.” Benito de Twat

Bernard
Bernard
October 10, 2021 7:44 pm

Fascism = PPP. Private Public Partnership. That’s it.

James Humburg
James Humburg
  Bernard
October 10, 2021 8:28 pm

I use this definition as it seems simple to me.
facism: private ownership, government control
communism: government ownership, government control
end result: rich run the show and the proles suffer in either system

Anonymous
Anonymous
  James Humburg
October 10, 2021 9:18 pm

Bankerism: bank owns all through printed money and controlling government clowns with bribery.

DS
DS
  Anonymous
October 11, 2021 2:48 pm

Banksterism

FIFY

Pistol Pete
Pistol Pete
  Bernard
October 11, 2021 8:15 am

Communism = PPPPP. Public Partnership Prohibits Private Property. That’s it.

TonyBaloney
TonyBaloney
  Bernard
October 11, 2021 12:14 pm

I think William S Gibson nailed it in his cyberpunk novels Neuromancer and Count zero. His vision of the future, the multinational corporation was everything, titular governments in the bidding of their corporate masters. I think the only difference right now is that the governments Have not weakened to the degree shown in his novels.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
October 10, 2021 9:34 pm

Fascism has been an integral part of America since its founding….only then it was called mercantilism. Most of the policies of Clay and the Whigs, and Lincoln and the Republicans, were as economically fascist as you could get when it came to the railroads, northern manufacturing, etc. Fascism was heartily embraced by Hoover, FDR, and most of America, long before anyone signed up to rid the world of it after Pearl Harbor. When the “Greatest Generation” came home from defeating fascism in Europe, they found it all around them and growing stronger by the day. Few if any recognized it for what it truly was/is, and few if any did anything to fight it or eliminate it at home. (Basing my comments on Mussolini’s definition)

i forget
i forget
  MrLiberty
October 11, 2021 2:24 pm

MR. L…Yep. Why the pic of hatchet-faced Lincoln fit. (And because fasces, it was decided, for the time being, “means” a bundle of wooden rods (or Thoreau’s root) that includes an axe with its blade emerging (as if the root will ever chop at itself…c’mon, Thoreau!). Italian symbol – & origin of the term fascism. It’s on the back of the Mercury dime, too. It’s behind the podium in the US house o’ rip•resentatives (rip you off until you rest in peace, for which the mortuary cartel will also rip you & yours off).

It’s Pogo the marsupial, as usual (as Stuck mentioned), not Benito so much, who is the enemy & who, despite meeting himself daily & nightly, is powerless to be anything other than s/he is. Catch-22 Cuckoos Nest, where the trains of meds & electroshock & lobotomy run on time.

DK H
DK H
October 10, 2021 10:18 pm

“Fascism is a nebulous term that people throw around as a pejorative, even for minor things.”

Indeed. But anyone can easily find out what fascism is by reading the “Fascist Manifesto”. Just one page and it’s crystal clear. But probably even just reading a whole page exceeds the Twitter generation’s maximum time limit of staying focused on any specific thing.

Anyone who wants a more detailed picture and can stay focused on a text for at least 7-8 minutes has “The Doctrine of Fascism” (1932) by Benito Mussolini. Only nine pages.

And something funny…

From Paul Rosenberg’s article “How I Discovered The Hidden Side of History”:

1981: I was looking through some old books that somehow ended up at my parents’ house. Among them, I found a set of history books from the 1930s. With an innate interest in the topic, I began reading them, and was absolutely shocked by what I found.

The last book of the series covered what were then modern times, and to my horror, I found lavish praise for – of all people – Benito Mussolini.

These were American books, by the way, beautifully produced by a respected publisher. And there, in authoritative tones, was the story of the great Mussolini, the savior of Italy. Given that I was taught precisely the opposite, a mere 30-odd years later, you can imagine my surprise.

Just to establish my point, here are a few quotes from that time about Mussolini:

What a man! I have lost my heart!
– Winston Churchill

The greatest genius of the modern age.
– Thomas Edison

I am much interested and deeply impressed by what he has accomplished and by his evidenced honest purpose of restoring Italy.
– Franklin Roosevelt

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  DK H
October 11, 2021 2:40 am

Indeed. As Mussolini was such a truth-loving person, we need only his statements to get a full, true understanding of fascism.

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  m
October 11, 2021 5:53 pm

The communists hated Mussolini. He was clearly in the right.

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  DK H
October 11, 2021 5:04 am

You can find a lot of old newspaper pages online, and the perspective that seeing things in the context of their time brings can change a lot of what you believe to be true. Context truly does matter.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 10, 2021 10:24 pm

Fascism is whatever the retards don’t like at the moment.

See the collected works of Gen-Z Cuckservative for a detailed treatment of the subject.

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  Anonymous
October 11, 2021 12:20 am

Now who do we know and love who uses the term “retard” and “cuckservative” frequently?? Could it be Flash using the Anony mask? You can’t hide out Flash, we know it iz you. 🙂

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  Anonymous
October 11, 2021 3:34 pm

Anon…Started reading this because Doug Casey plugs it so often. Not my best cup, but ok, there’s always/usually something:

“Mr. Hackworth,” Finkle-McGraw said after the pleasantries had petered out, speaking in a new tone of voice, a the-meeting-will-come-to-order sort of voice, “please favor me with your opinion of hypocrisy.”

“Excuse me. Hypocrisy, Your Grace?”

“Yes. You know.”

It’s a vice, I suppose.”

“A little one or a big one? Think carefully – much ninges upon the answer.”

“I suppose that depends on the particular circumstances.”

“That will never fail to be a safe answer, Mr. Hackworth,” the Equity Lord said reproachfully. Major Napier laughed, somewhat artificially, not knowing what to make of this line of inquiry.

“Recent events in my life have renewed my appreciation for the virtues of doing things safely, “ Hackworth said. Both of the others chuckled knowingly.

“You know, when I was a young man, hypocrisy was deemed the worst of the vices,” Finkle-McGraw said.”It was all because of moral relativism. You see, in that sort of climate, you are not allowed to criticize others – after all, if there is no absolute right & wrong, then what grounds is there for criticism?”

Finkle-McGraw paused, knowing that he had the full attention of his audience, & began to withdraw a calabash pipe & various related supplies & implements from his pockets. As he continued, he charged the calabash with a blend of leather-brown tobacco so redolent that it made Hackworth’s mouth water. He was tempted to spoon some of it into his mouth.

“Now, this led to a good deal of general frustration, for people are naturally censorious & love nothing better than to criticize others’ shortcomings. And so it was that they seized on hypocrisy & elevated it from a ubiquitous peccadillo into the monarch of all vices. For, you see, even if there is no right & wrong, you can find grounds to criticize another person by contrasting what he has espoused with what he has actually done. In this caes, you are not making any judgement whatsoever as to the correctness of his views or the morality of his behavior – you are merely pointing out that he has said one thing & done another. Virtually all political discourse in the days of my youth was devoted to the ferreting out of hypocrisy.

“You wouldn’t believe the things they said about the original Victorians. Calling someone a Victorian in those days was almost like calling them a fascist or a Nazi.”

Both Hackworth & Major Napier were dumbfounded. “Your Grace!” Napier exclaimed. “I was naturally aware that their moral stance was radically different from ours – but I astonished to be informed that they actually condemned the first Victorians.”

“Of course they did,” Finkle-McGraw said.

“Because the first Victorians were hypocrites,” Hackworth said, getting it.

Finkle-McGraw beamed upon Hackworth like a master upon his favored pupil. “As you can see, Major Napier, my estimate of Mr. Hackworth’s mental acuity was not ill-founded.”

“While I would never have supposed otherwise, Your Grace,” Major Napier said, “it is nonetheless gratifying to have seen a demonstration.” Napier raised his glass in Hackworth’s direction.

“Because they were hypocrites,” Finkle-McGraw said, after igniting his calabash & shooting a few tremendous fountains of smoke into the air, “the Victorians were despised in the late twentieth century. Many of the persons who held such opinions were, of course, guilty of the most nefandous conduct themselves, & yet saw no paradox in holding such views because they were not hypocrites themselves – they took no moral stances & lived by none.”

“So they were morally superior to the Victorians—“ Major Napier said, still a bit snowed under.

“—even though – in fact, because – they had no morals at all.”

There was a moment of silent, bewildered headshaking around the copper table.

“We take a somewhat different view of hypocrisy,” Finkle-McGraw continued. “In the late-twentieth-century Weltanschauung, a hypocrite was someone who espouse high moral views as part of a planned campaign of deception – he never held these beliefs sincerely & routinely violated them in privacy. Of course, most hypocrites are not like that. Most of the time it’s a spirit-is-willing, flesh-is-weak sort of thing.”

“That we occasionally violate our own stated moral code,” Major Napier said, working it through, “does not imply that we are insincere in espousing that code.”

“Of course not,” Finkle-McGraw said. “It’s perfectly obvious, really. No one ever said that it was easy to hew to a strict code of conduct. Really, the difficulties involved – the missteps we make along the way – are what make it interesting. The internal, & eternal, struggle, between our base impulses & the rigorous demands of our own moral system is quintessentially human. It is how we conduct ourselves in that struggle that determines how we may in time be judged by a higher power.” ~ Neal Stephenson, The Diamond Age (Or, A Young Lady’s Illustrated Primer)

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October 11, 2021 5:08 pm

“Fascism is militant Western Traditionalism. A restoration of the foundations of civilization.”

At least in theory, yes.
Practically speaking it turns into another variant of perfection-seeking [on earth], which makes it anti-Christianity by definition.

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  m
October 12, 2021 5:20 am

“Channel restricted” for my area…
(I also prefer written arguments over videos.)

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 12, 2021 11:36 am

I never can remember who it is here who likes the term ‘fascism’ as opposed to ‘national socialism.’ I’ve been meaning to ask:

Ethnically, are you from northern Europe, southern, or some mix? Are you a christian?

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  Anonymous
October 12, 2021 6:45 pm

I see. Back when I knew where to go online for like-minded discussions, everyone who sounds like you (and me) almost exclusively used NS. Just wondering.