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The science you are asked to trust is in reality Political Science.
Or Political “Science.”
Trust us the saidists said. TRust we will bust the trusts the saidists said. Trust, but verify ~ using our numbers-n-data to do so ~ that buster from the trust said. Trustfunds is fundamental, more fundamental than illiterate readers’ll ever be, said the PRussians rushin’ in where angels fear to tread. Trust the saidists too when they say offshore is offworld and that the fault is therefore in our stars, or Elon Bezos’ stars, & not in our underling selves.
But it’s only half a league– trust me
JooTube will remove that shortly
Are you aware of the fact that if you die living in the Philippines and you let them state covid on the death cert the govt. will pay for the funeral? Have a couple friends from there who keep in touch with there homeland and family there tells them this.
People are so poor that they say OK to it and boom covid deaths increase.
cheers
https://www.fema.gov/disaster/coronavirus/economic/funeral-assistance
Damn. never hear this on the nightly news. cheers
To make this clear, I am an anti-vaxxer. I certainly don’t think that vaccines are stopping the spread of COVID and believe we should leave it up to our natural immunity. One of my friends repeated the government narrative:
“If you get the vaccine, you have less chance of getting seriously ill and dying”
I put that on a previous thread to see if anyone could give me a reasonable answer. There were a couple of comments that questioned my numbers which came from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/. The numbers that 2 others quoted were supposedly from the CDC which I couldn’t confirm on their website.
Admin challenged me “There is absolutely no data showing vaccines reduce serious illness and death. Please provide it, if you have it. ”
How about this?
https://datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general?utm_source=go.gov.il&utm_medium=referral
The Israeli data shows more unvaccinated than vaccinated in both the active patients and severely ill over 60. Since substantially more Israelis have been vaccinated one would assume the numbers to be the other way around if the vaccine was useless.
I challenge you Admin to show me actual data that proves that vaccinations don’t do some good.
I’ll agree with you that vaccines do harm some people. On the other hand, we don’t know how many lives the vaccines have saved. I’ll also agree that we don’t know the long term harm of the vaccines. How many will develop heart, liver or kidney problems? Cancer? Still to be determined.
To those that say “Why would there be a massive spike once everyone started to get jabbed? ” My answer, the vaccines are not anywhere close to 100% effective. BUT how do you know there wouldn’t have been a larger spike if no one was vaccinated? Do you have any evidence there wouldn’t have been a spike if there were no vaccinations? Could covid be like the flu and come in waves regardless of vaccinations?
There is a lot of misinformation out there. None of us have the answers. I totally agree with most of you that there shouldn’t be mask and vaccine mandates. There are risks in both getting and not getting vaccinated. Open up the country and let us make our own choices.
Dear Leobeer , As for Covid, nobody has been vaccinated because these are not vaccines. We can argue about what they are but there is more and more information emerging as virologists and Drs. report on their experiences. It isn’t hard to find recent articles with new findings that are frankly horrifying. Mike Whitney, Geert Vanden Bossche, Carrie Madej, Luc Montegnier. Take your pick.
tabarnac, I have used the word “vaccinated” because that is the word the narrative uses.
I follow the work of Peter McCullough quite closely.
My point — We won’t ever know if the injections made the global situation better or worse.
I’m betting we will -and soon, way too soon.
Leobeer wrote:
“…We won’t ever know if the injections made the global situation better or worse…”
Of course we will know. But the more important point is this:
Epidemiologists are taught that in the case of an emergency use authorized experimental treatment, the paradigm is always GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. That is, the experimental treatment is not given the benefit of the doubt. If there are illnesses, injuries and deaths which MAY be attributed to the experimental treatment, then the illnesses, injuries and deaths ARE attributed to the treatment unless and until it can be PROVEN, to the contrary, that the treatment was not the cause of the illnesses, injuries and deaths.
But everything mainstream “science” and “medicine” is doing in the Western world right now, is precisely the opposite of what they SHOULD be doing, and what they have generally done in the past.
The red flags surrounding this treatment program have by now become a literal BLIZZARD, such that anyone who goes along with the program, or argues in defense of it, is completely and utterly without excuse.
You’re correct Leobeer, the data is pretty clear that the vax does reduce the chances of severe illness and death.
The Israeli dashboards have been the best data, at the moment I am confused whether they changed the definition of “vaccinated” as that can change the impression the data is giving.
The other pretty good dataset is the UK data. The latest vax report can be found here:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1019992/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_38.pdf
Very clear data showing that the vax is not stopping the spread (and in fact in many age groups the vaxxed have caught it at a higher rate than the unvaxxed, noting that we don’t know whether that is the vax suppressing symptoms and making it easier to infect people, or there are also different behaviours between vaxxed and unvaxxed that contribute). The tables on page 14 and 15 show the same clear picture on the vax as the Israeli data.
The young should not get the vax, as there is no real benefit. Once you get to age 40 the risk vs reward equation becomes less marginal (but I still think marginal unless you have poor health) and it becomes a better equation the older you get. When considering the vax you must also keep in mind the unknown potential for longer-term health impacts, which is why I consider the case for the vax to be marginal at best for many cohorts and a clear no for the young and healthy.
This is not really a position that either extreme likes but it reflects the reality of the vax. It also reflects the reality that mandates are pointless, as vast numbers of people are better off not having the vax, and attempts to force mandates are not based on health/science but based on profit and control.
Thanks Aus Anon for your very thorough report. I will find the data you have provided to be helpful in dealing with the misinformed.
As I said and you agreed, taking the jab cuts down my chances of death. However, there is only a 74.9 in 100,000 chance of dying (vs. 15.2 in 100,000 for vaxxed). (page 16). Given the unknown long term risks of the jabs I’ll continue to accept the .0749% chance of death.
0.26 was the number, whether or not the not-vaccines have made things worse will be easy to see.
A perfectly logical position to take!
I find it interesting that you were downvoted by a couple of people for actually thinking.
Oh FFS you two. The data has been purposefully manipulated to hide the fact that is not true and it is plain as day. They set the rules for data collection to ensure that. You are arguing it is possible to prove a negative.
Can you show that to be true rather than just assert it? I’m happy to be proven wrong.
Trust the leaked government documents.
Australia J&J risk assessment:
Admission it is a GMO and alters the genes of those who take the shots
-Admission the worldwide clinical trial is underway now, including in USA
-Dismissive of risks by comparing completely different vaccines used for completely different viruses (or even in different species, eg they say “no shedding found in mice for this totally different vaccine for a totally different virus”. This is how they decided to dismiss many of the risks.
-Several valid / actual risks to safety of both receivers and those who don’t take the shot (ie shedding) acknowledged and dismissed as negligible
-Included in that list are things we have ALREADY SEEN HAPPEN, example spike proteins moving away from site of injection and lymph nodes (spike proteins found in every organ of the body in rare cases where autopsies of shot deaths performed and reported)
-Reporting system of harmful events: they leave it up to the company to decide what is credible information of adverse events!!! And it’s up to the company to keep an eye on reports made about them!!!
-Admission of the possibility of the shot “virus” interacting with other viruses – which is dismissed as “unexpected”. Novel effects (ie, unknown new effects) likewise dismissed as negligible. And much more.
https://www.filedropper.com/full-risk-assessment-and-risk-management-plan1
I have researched enough pharmaceuticals and supplements to know that risks and safety are only considered if it is convenient and benefits to health are treated the same way.