A Tale Of Two Bridges (Or, what’s wrong with America)

After visiting a high school in North Plainfield NJ (less than 3 miles from my house … wish I could throw a rotten egg that far) Dementia*  will be going to the NJ Transit Meadowlands Maintenance Complex to push his infrastructure scheme …. and will kick off the much-anticipated construction of the new Portal North Bridge. Let’s look at that bridge, and then a bridge in Europe … and then maybe YOU can answer  me —> “what the hell is wrong with this country??

PORTAL BRIDGE

The new bridge will be right next to the old bridge — built in 1910, it is 961 feet long and 23 feet above the Hackensack River in Secaucus NJ. In other words, it’s yer basic rinky-dinkey-assed bridge.

Portal Bridge Capacity Enhancement - YU & Associates

THE REPLACEMENT BRIDGE WILL TAKE FOUR YEARS TO COMPLETE AND WILL COST $1.7 BILLION DOLLARS !!

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MILLAU VIADUCT, FRANCE

8,070 feet long, 1,104 feet high,  took only 3 years to build and cost $424 Million.

File:ViaducdeMillau.jpg

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DO YOU SEE THE PROBLEM NOW?

THE END

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Author: Stucky

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Warren
Warren
October 25, 2021 1:50 pm

I predict it will go over budget, and won’t be built on time, and may not ever be finished.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Warren
October 25, 2021 6:38 pm

And will collapse in 20 years, killing 13.

fujigm
fujigm
  MrLiberty
October 26, 2021 12:30 am

In Jersey?
No need to ‘predict’.
It’s a given.

Crawfisher
Crawfisher
October 25, 2021 2:02 pm

I grew up south of there, its near Tony Soprano’s back yard, in a Dem controlled state.
That’s why we need $1.5T for Covid and $3.5T for infrastructure. sarc/

2N404
2N404
October 25, 2021 2:07 pm

Our little ‘berg recently finished a year and half road project that supposedly cost around $18 million. The road is 3/4 mile in length.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 25, 2021 2:17 pm

Imagine replacing the Brooklyn Bridge in today’s money.
Nothing but payoffs to Democrat-run unions.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
October 25, 2021 2:45 pm

If I were at a Biden event, I would shout “Hey FUCK YOU, OLD MAN!”.

That guy needs to seriously fuck the fuck off. Apologies to anyone 78 or older, but Biden is an old, decrepit 78.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
October 25, 2021 9:21 pm

and Slick Willie isn’t looking much better, though he’s a few years younger.

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
October 25, 2021 2:47 pm

You should have seen the Fort Lauderdale Airport improvement project that was a year late and only around $1billion over cost. Not to mention the lawsuits coming for the asbestos and toxic mold exposure as well as the OSHA fines for silicate poisoning from inadequate ventilation when they polished their shit terrazo poured floors.

The grift is the American way and has been for a long time.

ZFG, out.

Ben Lurken
Ben Lurken
  Zulu Foxtrot Golf
October 25, 2021 2:50 pm

Ya culda left a P.S.

GNL
GNL
October 25, 2021 3:20 pm

Stucky,

You don’t understand math. When it’s completed, it will cost ZERO. Just wait, you’ll see.

Hollow man
Hollow man
October 25, 2021 4:02 pm

Gotta pay off the politicians

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
October 25, 2021 4:09 pm

$1.7B for a replacement bridge–is that the best you got?

In my neck of the woods, we know how to waste money on bridges. A few years ago we decided to replace the Interstate Bridge, a pair of twin spans that cross the Columbia River connecting the blue utopias of Oregon and Washington. The spans are 104 and 63 years old and at 3-lanes each they are tad undersized for today’s traffic.

The state bureaucrats said the new bridge would cost a mere $2 billion. But an independent study put the figure at $10 billion, but not to worry, the bridge was never built. After spending $200 million on the design, the brilliant bureaucrats designed a bridge that wasn’t high enough for ships to get under it. How could the engineers be so stupid, you ask. Well, it was because the politicians wanted light-rail to go over the bridge (Portland loves light rail almost as much as Antifa) and the light-rail cho-chos could not climb the grades needed for the bridge to allow river traffic.

The politicians thought no one would notice this little issue as they flushed money down the drain. But eventually the Coast Guard called bullshit on the whole scheme and that was the end of our bridge project.

The failed project was probably all for the best. I-5 south of the bridge thru north Portland is turning into a campground for the homeless. Tents line the embankments and exits, shopping carts are left on the shoulders, and garbage is everywhere. If a new bridge brought more traffic down I-5, where would our urban campers go?

Sir Willie Wallace
Sir Willie Wallace
  Trapped in Portlandia
October 26, 2021 12:02 am

The new bridge?

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 25, 2021 4:16 pm

Yes … I see it clearly. The MILLAU VIADUCT was built 20 years ago and inflation must be factored in. If You were trying to attempt a comparison at efficiency and the skill and competency of workers, engineers, logistics ect, there is probably a better path to this end.

Georges S
Georges S
  Anonymous
October 25, 2021 10:17 pm

Because you think there are no pay0ffs in France? They’re just not as big.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Georges S
October 25, 2021 11:17 pm

Didn’t suggest that or infer it at all. You’re comparing apples to oranges in time, distance and dollars inflated, notwithstanding the payoffs in both countries at any given time and all other things being equal. Too many variables and factors to be able to make an honest comparison between a structure — not even a bridge — built 20 years ago and a bridge that is currently just a twinkle in some engineers’ eyes.

lesko brandon
lesko brandon
October 25, 2021 4:22 pm

n.j. still sucks?

Crawfisher
Crawfisher
  lesko brandon
October 25, 2021 5:49 pm

Moved out 45 years ago thank goodness

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 25, 2021 5:05 pm

Your tax $$$ at work Stucky. I’d move(when you can).

The GLORIOUS South is waiting for you……

BL here.

gmpatriot
gmpatriot
October 25, 2021 5:20 pm

Permitting will take 10 years, IF EVER approved, so cost will be even HIGHER. The biggest issue with ALL of these “infrastructure” projects (just like “shovel ready”) The permitting NEVER gets greenlighted. The “shovel ready” projects consisted of paving that wasn’t needed, restriping, guardrail and sign projects. NONE of which added 1 sf of new roads!

KJ
KJ
  KaD
October 25, 2021 5:47 pm

He stupidly gave them all the ammo they needed with his asinine Parler post threatening violence. As I’ve said before, these aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer…

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 25, 2021 6:09 pm

Wasn’t the new Sandy Hook elementary school something like $25 million?

GDP, usually gruntled
GDP, usually gruntled
  Anonymous
October 26, 2021 12:58 pm

Ha! Pikers! L.A. says hold my beer.
The Robert F Kennedy Community Schools cost $578 million. And then they had to install a methane mitigation system for $50 million because they built it on a site that leaks methane into the air at unsafe levels.
Take that, Joisey! Ya got nuthin’ on the incompetents here.

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
October 25, 2021 6:29 pm

Jersey, Ewww

Melty
Melty
October 25, 2021 7:04 pm

Money goes to the unions and get’s funneled back to the fuckers.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 25, 2021 8:03 pm

I’m not a big union fan; they have their place, I belonged in USW for awhile,but when you have “semi-skilled” union workers making $47/hr. plus another $15/hr. in benefits, and each worker can only do one job while the rest lean on shovels watching him(Penndot), then it’s hard to get a fair(fair to the taxpayers) bid on these things. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for taking care of your workers, but the management/labor pendulum has swung too far on labor’s side…it does seem to be evening out a bit in the last several years, as unions don’t have quite the power they once did.

Sir Willie Wallace
Sir Willie Wallace
  Anonymous
October 26, 2021 12:04 am

‘had’ their place. Long ago.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Anonymous
October 26, 2021 12:38 am

I’m on the side of union nurses who got fired in NY for not getting a Covid vaccination. And I’m against the National Guard SCABS they brought in to replace the union nurses.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 25, 2021 9:02 pm

Da bridth might not get builtth ….. But ….. I’ll Thstil Be A Sthexthy Beatht ….. LOL!!!

rhs jr
rhs jr
October 25, 2021 10:03 pm

A pork barrell of over-kill if I ever saw one; but it will nicely serve the purpose of the rural old oak hanging trees and the urban “lamp posts” for liberal politicians. Call it the Social Justice Bridge.

Ken31
Ken31
October 25, 2021 11:41 pm

The government contracting racket is the bread and butter of political corruption in the USA. I thought everyone knew that.

Sir Willie Wallace
Sir Willie Wallace
October 25, 2021 11:59 pm

It’s called money laundering.

bob in apopka
bob in apopka
October 26, 2021 1:24 am

I-4, the most dangerous road in America is being move over to allow a state toll road down the middle of the easement. Once completed you can bet no more work will be preformed on I-4 ever.

Bilgeman
Bilgeman
October 26, 2021 3:23 am

Ahhh, the government contracting industry!

So rife with corruption that it would embarrass the De Medici AND the Borgia popes.

If you ever want a good belly-laugh, ask a Freemason to tell you what “give full measure” means.
What did you THINK went on in those Lodges?
Think: “hogs at the trough”…Labor and Management and Bureaucracy, all side by side in gluttony.

Oh…and color me crazy, but WHY are they building a bridge that is exposed to the elements and subject to icing during the winter when they could build a tunnel that is not subject to icing and weathering?

GuyManDude
GuyManDude
October 26, 2021 2:41 pm

I guess everybody missed the fact that the old bridge is a railroad bridge. I’m not familiar with the one in France but it looks like a Highway bridge. I get it about the cost. The bridge in the second photo is a modern marvel of art and engineering. Not to cover for the potato in chief but I’m sure there’s going to be structural differences between Highway bridges and railroad especially if the the railroad bridge needs to be a draw bridge. Then there’s the corruption factor. It’s in Jersey… which should be a synonym for Corruption. And the Potato Usurper coming to Jersey with some deal? Lol yeah none of this boondoggle should be shocking. Just one more thing to help further bankrupt the US and speed up the collapse.