Having posted in the past a few shit articles — I mean, articles about shit — it is only fair to post about piss. Seriously, this may be useful for you gardeners out there! Piss is good fertilizer! Who knew??
BL’s carrot watering his carrots on his KY farm
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The Market For Urine
When I toured the ancient ruins of Pompeii some years ago, one of the sites we visited was a public laundry facility in which patrons used to wash their clothes in – of all things – human urine. The business purchased urine from local residents for use in the shop. While this struck me as rather problematic (wouldn’t the clothes stink later?) apparently the odour was mitigated by drying them on a flat roof in full sunlight.
According to this article, the ancients used urine for other purposes too, including making toothpaste. Portuguese urine apparently commanded a higher price than Italian, because it was believed to be stronger and better at whitening teeth. (Yes, you read that correctly.)
What fascinated me, however, was that a substance we modern people consider a distasteful waste product, and will pay to get rid of, was under different circumstances regarded as a useful commodity that people would pay good money to obtain.
Since then, I’ve stumbled across a few other circumstances in which the price of urine was above zero. At one time (but no longer), horse urine was used in the production of Harris Tweed, the famous woollen fabric woven in Scotland.
Indeed, the urine of pregnant mares is still used in producing hormone replacement therapy for menopausal women. The drug Premarin indicates this by truncating the words “pregnant mare urine” in its very name.
A few years ago, competitive athletes who feared that drug tests would reveal their use of illegal substances were reportedly purchasing “clean” urine samples that they could substitute for their own. There’s even a company today that, with no apparent embarrassment, sells synthetic “ultra pure” urine (also called “fake pee”) to people facing screening.
Lately, newspapers have been publishing stories about looming shortages of nitrogen fertilizer, which are expected to result in devastating reductions of crop yields. China, normally one of the world’s major producers and exporters of nitrogen fertilizer, has stopped or reduced production at many factories, purportedly in order to save electricity.
Christian Westbrook, who blogs and podcasts as the Ice Age Farmer, has been reporting panic and even rioting among many farmers around the world, as supplies of fertilizer vanish from the market.
Even mainstream media are now reporting on anticipated shortages of urea, which might result in Australia having no trucks on the road, and no beer in the stores, within a few months.
The time may soon be upon us when the value of human urine in the marketplace will once again be above zero. Provided that it’s not contaminated with prescription drugs, antibiotic-resistant bacteria or heavy metals, urine makes great fertilizer. The world needn’t go without grains, vegetables, or beer even if many fertilizer factories shut down. The marketplace just needs to gear up to follow the example set by the citizens of Pompeii, who arranged for places where individuals could drop off their contributions and be paid for them.
I studied up on the use of urine as fertilizer at the beginning of the lockdowns in March, 2020 when I was just starting to plant my garden but wasn’t permitted to go to the garden supply centre to buy anything to nourish my seedlings.
Having long been interested in organic gardening, I’d read occasional articles over the years discussing the use of urine as fertilizer. Now was the time to take a look at some of the recipes. According to Mother Earth News, you simply dilute urine with 19 parts water and that’s all there is to it. Other recipes say the ratio is only 1:10. It might depend on how well hydrated you keep yourself.
The University of Michigan says that you might need to “age” your urine for 12 – 16 months in order to break down any antibiotic-resistant organisms in it.
I haven’t taken antibiotics for many years, so I was pretty sure my pee wouldn’t contain antibiotic-resistant bacteria. I take no prescription drugs. I’ve avoided tuna and other mercury-contaminated fish, as well as vaccinations (the pre-COVID ones frequently contained mercury or aluminum adjuvants). I eat primarily organic and nutrient dense foods, so I figured my pee would probably be not only uncontaminated but also rich in other minerals and nutrients besides nitrogen.
Sure enough, it worked like a charm. My garden grew better than it ever had. If fertilizer shortages do occur, I won’t fear them. I’m producing my own fertilizer every day, far more than I need.
As disaster after disaster strikes the planet – some accidental, some the result of bureaucratic stupidity and some possibly deliberately engineered – it will be good for people to know that they don’t have to accept “But there’s a fertilizer shortage!” as a death knell.
Grow your own gardens, folks – and piss on them.
SOURCE: Karn Selick on Lew Rockwell
And what’s falling on you from DC…..that’s just rain….
……..and ashes from your tax dollars.
I regularly pee on my compost pile, adding some nitrogen to help break down the organics.
I thought everybody did.
Well done.
Not too often.
Urine is full of salts.
Gandhi drank his own piss. He also walked around wearing a blanket and slept naked with underage girls. What a role model.
Don’t rebel with violence. Just sit there and hold your breath. A true strawman
Indian prime minister Desai drank all that he passed every morning.
It can be a good purgative. Urine Therapy is practised by millions
throughout the world… I think it was the US navy that advised during WW2
that survivors could survive for weeks adrift at sea by drinking ALL they passed
– prevents rapid dehydration. Whereas drinking seawater can drive you nuts soonest.
(Given seawater is the same composition as your blood, cant explain why it should.)
A guy named Brandon does the same things.
I think it was back in the 1980’s that some big city school got like 500 grand to come up with a way the 3rd world shitholes to increase growth of their crops without buying fertilizer , what they came up with was wood ash and piss.
works better than most stuff sold to day. weird, huh ? funny thing is I remember reading about what the japs and chinks used to use back in the 1880’s and before as they ALWAYS DID IT THAT WAY. but now it a “new idea” ?
Ancient soil amendment still in use today. I don’t ever recall installing a urinal in a pasture.
I don’t know if it helped but I dropped water all around my husband’s deer blind.
We each got a doe but only saw the bucks up the hill a bit too far.
Oh, and I saw a big one two days after rifle season ended mid-pasture at noon.
My own super secret gross gardening trick…pee is way better at repelling deer, rabbits, or any other mammal than the chemicals you could buy or even fencing. When I take the dog out for her nightly we take a trip by the garden and I apply repellent between rows. Works great just try not to get any on the produce and makes sure to wash before eating.
Yep this can work.
For men: The universe is your urinal.
(I thought how true when I first heard that)
I heard it, “As a male, the earth is your toilet.”
Free Pissers Unite !!!
Neighbors in Oklahoma had a dog they let run at night which came straight to my flower beds to crap. I read that my husband should piss along the property line and I don’t know if they saw him do it a couple times or if it worked, but it worked.
LOL
I have a big squirrel problem at the Doomstead, The little bastards chew up my porch/stair rails, would taking a whizz on the rails work to get rid of this problem?
get rid of visitors, too
Don’t know if you can shoot them where you live, ordinances etc. but .22 short CBs are low velocity indoor target ammo that are almost silent when shot from a .22 rifle. They make about the same noise as a pellet rifle. I’d eliminate them if possible or I guess try the pee. Only problem , you may experience pee odor which is not real pleasant to smell. Might want to look into traps too.
I have over a hundred fruit and nut trees and zero squirrels thanks to my squirrel hating dog and trusty pump 12 gauge.
I used to trap squirrels-half a spoon of peanut butter on an old plastic lid at the back of the cage got the little bastards every time. Gotta be careful disposing of them-most have fleas (or worse)-not a good time to be wearing shorts and a tee shirt. I used to dump them where there were no trees and plenty of coyotes.
For humans – the planet is one big shithouse ?
I read somewhere that ‘Murine’ eye drops were made from (m)urine…
May I clarify: the “blue” areas are shit-houses.
Two art related urine uses.
Urine is still used to patina bronze sculpture as it has for millennia.
The sculpture was covered in straw and urinated on for several weeks.
The acids and salts in the urine imparted a beautiful surface on the bronze
and protected it from turning green.
Cows fed mango leaves had their urine dried out and the precipitate
was mixed with media to make the color Indian yellow.
Ya see, folks, that there is priceless new knowledge!
Worth posting the article just to learn that.
Now that I know Portuguese urine is better than Italian urine, I’m done wasting money on Italian urine!
I’m with ya Iska ! I too have learned a great deal about urine types and uses. I may become a urine dealer and corner the market.
“When You Think Of Piss, Think BL Brand”……
You should name your company Urine Luck, Inc.
Planning on sculpting in bronze now are you?
Piss was also used to make gunpowder, tan leather, make glue, ammonia for cleaning and whitening laundry as well as dying fabric. Pee buyers would collect the saved urine and sell it to tanneries and wash houses. I had some straw bales that I soaked in piss, used that for growing veggies. Recall one interesting little get together where beer flowed abundantly, and the male party goers were instructed to pee on the bales. You have to wait awhile for the pee to age and you want to do this outdoors…of course. It’s really hard to vacuum up pee-soaked hay.
Here’s an interesting little article on what all was used to make paint at one time….
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2017/jun/13/from-crushed-bugs-to-cow-urine-the-history-of-colours-in-pictures
BL’s hair hasn’t been that color for a Looooong time.
When we are young, we are full of piss and vinegar. We get old and piss on ourselves.
Something fuk’s up we say “well piss”.
But remember, it is always BETTER to be pissed off than pissed on. And only Stucky can start a discussion about piss on a Saturday afternoon. That is certainly a piss poor garden of carrots ole ‘BL has in that little ring of wire fence.
It’s also good for making gun powder.
now you guys got me Pissed off
https://www.milorganite.com/
https://www.milorganite.com/blog/milorganite/milorganite-iron
I’ve used this on my lawn but not in a garden or compost pile. It’s heated to the point there are supposed to be no pathogens. In sandy soil I’m lucky to have anything green when that old hot sun rears its ugly self in the summer. I bought a number of bags of this because at the time it was less expensive than other fertilizers. It can be applied anytime and does not require water which is nice. The local feed store ordered it. The owner seemed sceptical saying he would never apply human poop to anything. I think people that maintain lush golf courses say it works well on the greens. Per the company’s website, The analysis for Milorganite, 6–4–0, guarantees there’s a minimum of 6% nitrogen, 4% phosphorus, and less than one percent potassium in each bag. There’s one additional nutrient in Milorganite that has made it so popular among homeowners for decades: iron. Iron helps promote the green lawn homeowners desire.
I like rabbit manure in the compost pile and garden when I can find someone raising them. Rabbit manure does not burn plants like chicken manure may do.
My raised beds are all rabbit manure and straw/bedding and I grew so many tomatoes last year I was giving the damn plants dirty looks until we finally got a freeze.
Rabbit manure does not require composting.
biosolids like Milorganite and Dillo Dirt contain thousands of poisonous chemicals including heavy metals, pharmaceuticals and more dangerous things that should not be sprinkled on your garden. this is a waste water treatment scam that is poisoning crops. anything that goes into your toilet or the drain at the local dry cleaner or manufacturer, etc is separated from the liquids and sold to suckers to save on disposal fees and it is poison.
MILwaukee ORGanic NITrogen (Milorganite) is not the kind of organic you think – it’s the “made from living matter” (your shit and piss ) definition, not the healthy and pure definition.
To be honest, I wasn’t really buying into all this human piss-and-shit is good for your veggies.
In fact, I thought much of the article (not all) was a load of crap (pun intended). The gung-ho agreements were NOT what I expected.
Thanks for the rebuttal. Sanity still reigns!
A serious fertilizer shortage??? Having worked as a med-surg nurse,i can tell you ,first hand ,that it would be worth running a pipeline to the old broads.
Don’t know why this didn’t post the first time, but this is an excellent piss recipe to keep deer and rabbits out of your garden:
Piss continuously in a bucket
Add in a bit of dish soap (to keep the stuff on the ground after a rain)
Add in a bunch of crushed garlic
For the kicker, add in two whisked eggs and mix
Leave out in the sun for two days – it stinks!
Pour around the garden – it works!
Also, empty the vacuum container full of dog hair around the yard. Keeps out coyotes. I prefer German Shedder hair.
I drink panther piss a couple times a week
It works 60% of the time 100% of the time.
Pee-ing directly on plants will kill them.
So dilute your pee with water.
Chicken shit is the same, it has to be
aerated or it will burn plant roots…
Use it directly (neat) on your skin, esp the face.
It’s skin food. good as a face-cleaner…
Yuck, I’ll stick with witch hazel
“Yuck !” is one of the first words an infant learns. I call it The Yuck Stage. It’s indelible, stays with us for life… “Witches”, whatever their names, make their appearance a bit later during the The Fairytale Stage. ..and slowly thereafter the kids twig their parents are not exactly honest (except when it comes to Santa claws, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy)…
One person’s “Yuck !” can oftentimes be used by another in a wound-healing compress…
The Koran says Mohammad drank camel piss for his health. The common folks where I lived in Turkey saved their piss & shit in “honey pots” and every day I passed by the collection spot; worse than pigs to me but they grew vegetables twice as big as normal. During the Civil War, Southerners boiled down piss for a good cause: to get the salt peter (potassium) to make black powder. City people ask me for animal manure; no way, it’s Black Gold. Outhouses are illegal now but when TSHTF, I will make one and use the human fertilizer. Our feed store sells 50# bags of dried human city waste treatment plant “stuff” to spread around corn fields etc to discourage deer; I don’t use it because they pour all manner of chemicals into toilets, but some guys in the hay business use it. No matter how high their Position, how much money they print and steal, no matter how nice their houses and servants, or how high on the hog they eat (a Goy expression), their hearts are continuously Evil and they still turn to shit (the Bible says ashes), and then they get Judged by the Messiah they hate. I know Jesus was born in the Spring and we celebrate myths during an old pagan holiday, but Christmas is the best. Thank you Jesus.
Plants extract Goodness from the soil. We extract the Goodness from the plants when we eat them. We should return to Waste to the soil. I like the idea. However. There’s now so much toxic matter in our Waste. To return it to the soil is only to recycle the toxins. Look at what the antibiotics etc in the run-off of our loo water is doing to frogs and fish – they’re becoming Arthur And Martha, those that cant decide if they’re Arthur or Martha, that is. All the talk of shrinking penises, low sperm count, and so on. Is Transgenderism The Future (If Dr Billy Gates and his Eugenics Party dont prevail ?)
Careful with your drinking water if you live downriver from a prison or a prison complex-the drugs (legal and illegal) that get pissed out seldom get removed by municipal water treatment plants.
Interesting. Seems to be some truth to the urine thing, particularly when it comes to animals. Our backyard is across the road from a large farm. At different times of the year were have seen deer, wild turkeys, geese, the occasional coyote. Two years ago people started running their dogs in the fields after the farmer had taken off the hay, we haven’t seen a wild animal since.
I’m a tad bit disappointed about the comments here.
It seems EVERYBODY EXCEPT ME already knew you can piss on carrots to make them grow!
Jeez, and here I thought I was providing new info. Sigh … city boy don’t know Jack or Shit ’bout farmin’.
Live and learn, Stuck.
Do you piss on your face? Yuck. Sorry for my infantile language.
My neighbor JB was like a father to me and a Deacon; worked me and the Preacher’s son as steelworker helpers. The other kid complained about aches and pains; when it was his hands, JB told him to piss on them to make them stronger and the Preacher caught his son doing it. Bro Benny was mad as Hell at JB, but he said if your kid is that sheltered and dumb, it’s not my fault.
1960s. i’d just turned 16. Worked evenings at a plyboard factory. One day raised my hand quickly to avoid a very thick descending blade. But it sheared the thumbnail off. First Aid was in the office, which closed at 5pm. A recently arrived Italian migrant advised i piss on my thumb, and on my hanky, and use the hanky as a compress-bandage. No Infection. Perfectly healed… God’s Own First Aid Kit…