Bitcon . . .?

Guest Post by Eric Peters

One of the problems with “crypto” is just that – no one seems to know exactly what it is.

Or at least, no seems able to explain what it is.

Somehow, a digitized online representation of a “coin” has immense value, though what gives it any value is difficult to understand. It is not backed by precious metals. It is not issued by a bank.

It’s just there, on the screen.

The willingness of a sufficiency of people to accept that it has value is apparently the source of its value. Dirt could work on this principle. To be fair, crypto is not dirt – and it is not materially different from U.S. dollars, which have value chiefly because people accept them as having it.

But the pieces of paper themselves, have no more intrinsic value than the digitized representation of a “coin” online.

And that of course is the primary danger of both. They have value only because someone (speaking figuratively here) assigned it to them and because others agree to accept that estimation of value, which isn’t moored to anything of actual value – at least insofar as can be objectively pointed to as being such, like a piece of silver or gold.

We all pretend the “dollars” – or “coins” – themselves are things of tangible value. That works just as long as it does.

Which probably won’t be for very long.

Now, the pieces of paper issued by the private cartel of banks that control their supply are “backed” by the “full faith and credit of the United States,” for whatever that’s worth. And it is probably worth something. Not much, given the value of a “federal” dollar has declined by more than 90 percent since the “federal” reserve began issuing these pieces of paper more than 100 years ago.

Meanwhile, the value of “crypto” has generally tracked in the opposite direction, a phenomenon that has made it very attractive to people trying to figure out a way to staunch the seemingly unstoppable bleeding out of the value of their money. It’s tempting to transfer “dollars” into “coins” when “coins” seem to hold rather than hemorrhage value.

The housing market seemed to offer such back in the late ’90s and early 2000s. Could the spectacular increase in “crypto’s” value be of a piece?

That’s an important question.

Another one pertains to aspect of value that the piece of paper in our wallets have over digital-electronic shave-fractions of “coins” online.

They have physicality.

They may just be pieces of paper. But those pieces of paper are tangible and so under our physical control. The buying power of a piece of paper can be diminished by the printing of more pieces of paper but it is not possible for some remote entity to simply poof them out of functional existence – summarily disabling your ability to exchange them for things of tangible value.

They are also anonymous.

When you hand the man at the gas station $40 in paper currency as payment for the gasoline you just pumped into your vehicle, no one else is aware of the transaction. There is no record of the transaction, except perhaps a receipt – which has no identifying particulars and isn’t electronic.

The scariest thing about “coins” to this writer is that they are entirely electronic. This necessarily means every transaction involving a “coin” leaves a digital footprint.

It would be extremely easy for whomever has access to the data – and we have no idea exactly who that is – to put together a complete dossier of your financial life, which is your life. Down to the last can of Coke you bought by waving your phone at the purchase kiosk.

They – whomever has these records – knows everything about your buying and selling at the moment of transaction.

Including disparities in your buying and selling.

This is precisely why the Biden Thing is pushing the banks to report every single transaction over $600 to the Eye That Never Rests. So as to compare what you have been buying with what you’ve been earning  . . . and reporting.

Any disparity results in a you-know-what.

Eliminate those piece of paper altogether and this automatic cross-referencing becomes infinitely easier. Down to the last fraction of a cent easier. It also makes it hard (if not impossible) to operate outside of their system. That cash-only side hustle no one knows about is known to the finest detail.

Taxes could be dunned automatically – “pay as you go.”

But as oppressive as that would be, far more so would be the use of electronic money to coerce compliance. There were lots of loose ends evident during the attempt to assert total control over the world’s population during the “pandemic.” Those who seek to use “health” to enslave  could use threats to close down stores but if the store owner chose, he could defy – to various degrees – such decrees. He might choose to sell you food – even if you weren’t “masked.” Individuals could form underground networks of commerce, buy and sell among themselves and no one else the wiser.

As long as you had cash, you could buy.

But when cash transforms into a digital icon on your smartphone, your economic existence becomes entirely at the pleasure of whomever – whatever – controls the functionality of that app. Given what we already know about the benevolence of the entities who have electronicized our world – the Apples and Googles – there is cause to feel extremely uneasy about putting our finances into an electronic “wallet” that can be lifted at ay time, without our being aware it was just done.

Money shouldn’t be this difficult to understand.

Nor – at least potentially – to take away.

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44 Comments
Davido Davido
Davido Davido
January 30, 2022 3:55 pm

Eric, Bitcoin does have a problem that is likely to cost holders of Bitcoin a lot. However, Bitcoin’s problem is Government, not the code nor the idea of an honest, open, immutable, decentralized, permissionless currency. The government will control Bitcoin because its currency can not stand the competition. https://medium.com/coinmonks/u-s-government-control-is-still-the-biggest-risk-for-bitcoin-d18ab0caa174 https://joekelly100.medium.com/how-to-kill-bitcoin-part-3-no-can-defend-cd6affe3fc44

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Davido Davido
January 30, 2022 3:59 pm

How can it ever remain honest if there’s always the chance that someone can shut it down? I don’t understand when people say this about Bitcoin. Someone will always have power over your account, right?

brian
brian
  Abigail Adams
January 30, 2022 4:09 pm

Plus there has been a pretty significant amount of fraud and loss… not just from forgetting your account password, etc… I mentioned before that crypto will only be good around cities but get away from cities… good luck getting a farmer to take crypto for a dozen eggs…

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  brian
January 30, 2022 4:31 pm

Agreed, brian.

Gmpatriot
Gmpatriot
  brian
January 30, 2022 4:47 pm

Local convivence store “in the country” had a crypto teller in the friggin lobby of the store. NO idea what it dispensed, maybe skittles……

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Gmpatriot
January 30, 2022 5:57 pm

We have one at the new convenience store/gas station that opened up last year. A small town of less than 1,000 people and you can buy your crypto at the kiosk down at the mini mart.

Booster Fish
Booster Fish
  brian
February 1, 2022 5:54 am

There is fraud with cash and anything and everything. Forgetting your password is P.I.C.N.I.C. (problem in chair, not in computer). Crypto for a dozen eggs is coming, and I bet already exists in limited cases…

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Abigail Adams
January 31, 2022 5:27 am

Right! 🙂

Yahsure
Yahsure
  Abigail Adams
January 31, 2022 8:54 am

No. You hold in a cold wallet and there’s always a way to use Bitcoin.

Booster Fish
Booster Fish
  Abigail Adams
February 1, 2022 5:51 am

No, someone can not “shut it down.” They can only squash the value by making it more difficult to use, but it will still have value. Bitcoin has had value since it’s inception. Nobody has “power over your account” as long as you’re not holding on a centralized exchange.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Davido Davido
January 31, 2022 5:26 am

But, DD, we all have a problem when the power goes out and you don’t have a Cold Wallet.

Booster Fish
Booster Fish
  Austrian Peter
February 1, 2022 5:55 am

You wait for it to come back on. 😀

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Booster Fish
February 1, 2022 6:45 am

Ah the patience of a saint! 🙂

August
August
January 30, 2022 3:56 pm

Everyone wants Bitcoin!

Swrichmond
Swrichmond
  August
January 30, 2022 4:45 pm

I don’t

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  August
January 31, 2022 5:28 am

I don’t

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
January 30, 2022 3:56 pm

Good points, Eric. I tried to talk about this the other day, with a few bites. I will not participate in electronic currency in any way, shape, or form. I try to pay hard cold cash for as much as possible. Wonder how long that will be allowed.

Gmpatriot
Gmpatriot
  Abigail Adams
January 30, 2022 4:47 pm

Or BARTER…..;)

Balbinus
Balbinus
  Abigail Adams
January 30, 2022 4:49 pm

Cash is not the currency of the NWO and finally the antichrist.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Balbinus
January 30, 2022 5:00 pm

I do understand this. Still won’t participate. I don’t see a long life for myself if we go down this road. And I’m ok with that.

fujigm
fujigm
  Abigail Adams
January 30, 2022 8:39 pm

Many of us expect to die a violent death at the hands of an Orwellian state.
Some will measure their worth by the number of statists they bring with them.

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  Abigail Adams
January 31, 2022 12:23 am

I’m not!! dbl entdr

fujigm
fujigm
  theOtherDan
January 31, 2022 12:27 am

Prepare for the worst.
Hope for the best.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Abigail Adams
January 31, 2022 5:29 am

It doesn’t have to be ‘allowed’ AA. We are free agents and can choose an alternative economy which I talk about in my book.

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
January 30, 2022 4:26 pm

Good article by Eric, but he didn’t go far enough.

1. I’ve always had the nagging suspicion that bitcoin was created by some government agency as a test of digital currency. Throughout history I can’t recall any great inventions where the inventor was unknown. I sense Satoshi Nakamoto was really a team of programers in the basement of the CIA.

2. The fear that the government will monitor everyone’s transactions with digitally currencies is probably unfounded. The amount of information is just too vast for our incompetent government to manage. However, with all that info in their grubby hands, if the government wants to go after an individual, they will surely be able to find something incriminating in his/her digital transactions.

3. Even if we are forced into 100% digital currencies, people will still operate off the radar with gold/silver coins and other forms of barter.

The government can’t win. But they will make our lives a bit less convenient.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Trapped in Portlandia
January 30, 2022 6:01 pm

Winner winner, chicken dinner on answer #2. They have ALL of you electronic data, phone conversations, texts, etc. and if you come up on their radar, they will mine it all out for the nuggets that incriminate, even if they have to “salt” the mine a bit.

Show me the man and I will show you the crime.

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  TN Patriot
January 31, 2022 1:14 am

It’s all (((theirs))) google fakebook blah blah.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Trapped in Portlandia
January 31, 2022 5:32 am

So true – there is always an alternative.

Lessons From An Underground Economy

GNL
GNL
January 30, 2022 4:35 pm

What if the NWO goal is to get us all into digital currency and then because of the “climate change” emergency, cut all energy usage? That would once and for all steal all your wealth.

Swrichmond
Swrichmond
January 30, 2022 4:44 pm

“Or at least, no seems able to explain what it is.”

Bitcoin is an op, with many purposes:
1) build credibility for “digital currency”, paving the way for CBDC’s
2) take buying pressure off precious metals, making controlling their “prices” easier
3) provide yet another trading vehicle for wall street to loot main street

Steve
Steve
  Swrichmond
January 31, 2022 5:00 am

1) is the key. That’s why Central Bank Inc. aren’t doing their nut about BTC. They know they can take it over anytime and turn it into a CBDC.

General
General
January 30, 2022 5:44 pm

Gold is money, everything else is credit.

That being said,” money” is really just an accounting mechanism. Gold has, for 5000 years, been the best decentralized money with the caveat that it has its problems. Those problems allowed the banksters to cheat and trick everyone into using fake fiat currencies. All bitcoin, and the other cryptocurrencies are, is an attempt to make a better accounting system that is less prone to fraud.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  General
January 30, 2022 6:04 pm

less prone to fraud by unauthorized persons.

Arthur
Arthur
January 30, 2022 7:34 pm

Bitcoin is a financial instrument, not a currency. Blockchain is a clever means of limiting the supply, emulating precious metals. It offers obscurity, but not perfect anonymity. Like any financial instrument, it can yield gains or losses, depending how it is traded. It could be the basis of a more honest financial order, but since it depends on ubiquitous electricity, it is vulnerable not only to interruption, but to volatile energy costs, which might impose onerous overheads. 20th century abundance brought Bitcoin to be, but that abundance is historically anomalous.

Booster Fish
Booster Fish
  Arthur
February 1, 2022 6:26 am

Unless all the electricity in the entire world goes down at the same time, Bitcoin is not vulnerable to electrical outages. Energy costs don’t make it vulnerable to interruptions either. It still keeps producing the same amount of blocks daily regardless. If one miner goes down, the other other miners pick up the slack (or rather reap the rewards). If an entire country goes down, it’s the same concept.

The 2009 financial crisis brought Bitcoin to be.

However, mostly great points otherwise. 🙂

fujigm
fujigm
January 30, 2022 8:33 pm

Exactly my sentiments on Bitcoin.
So how does one work this inevitability (because digital money is inevitable)?
If one were to have multiple identities, therefor creating multiple wallets, diluting ‘undeclared’ payments…
This is similar to diluting volumes of money among multiple business entities to ‘wash’ the money and make it appear legitimate (to the state).
At some point, excess profits must be removed from the system, predominantly by purchasing hard assets.
There is nothing new under the sun, and rest assured that the government declared ‘criminals’ will always remain one step ahead of the state.
The argument that adoption of digital currency for everyday purchases rests on the presumption that everyone has an electronic device to transact in that currency.
That is still a far step away from becoming reality.
So Bitcoin remains in the realm of movement of large sums of money digitally without involving the banks (directly tied to government).
While not anonymous, it adds a couple of abstraction layers to complicate matters for the state.
This can be amplified with existing shell corporations to create more abstraction layers.
Hypothetically.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 30, 2022 9:00 pm

Without question, It has been presented as a ‘get rich quick’ scheme. That, and the appeal of not actually working and producing….anything….Endless Wishful thinking.

Same as some indeterminate percentage of ‘well-paying Professional’ ….’Careers’.
Get a real job. Sleep without chemicals.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
January 31, 2022 12:06 am

We can’t wait for this to happen. Any digital currency candidates need to be shut down.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
January 31, 2022 5:24 am

A lovely inference, Eric, to the proposed CBDCs which of course will rely on ‘compliance’ but as you say, we don’t need to comply and many won’t. And it’s not just Google et al, they are just the foot soldiers – it’s the Banksters behind all this.
https://www.gemini.com/cryptopedia/cbdcs-digital-currency-us-china

It’s coming to a country near you too and when the social credit system gets underway here is what it might look like:

Move to somewhere they can’t find you – like the South African Karoo!

Yahsure
Yahsure
January 31, 2022 9:31 am

Have you ever listened to someone talk about a subject and you can tell right away that they don’t know what they are talking about? That’s what it’s like reading about Bitcoin on TBP. Either it’s ignorance from a lack of knowledge or some of you are older than dirt and can’t help yourselves.
There’s a big difference between Bitcoin and the rest of the crypto coins. Do some research on
centralized versus decentralized. Peer to peer with bitcoin. (P2P)
We will get a CBDC and Bitcoin will be a way to work around it. Maybe using the CBDC to pay bills online will be the way to go. Irish diplomacy? Diversify and have a little of everything.
Imagine trying to buy something online with your Gold or silver asset. Pay bills. I have no real issues with hard assets, it’s just how usable are they. If you buy a rabbit from me and pay in Gold, what will I do with the gold? With a digital asset, I can hold it in an account and go online and buy something(anything) and have it shipped to a place near my home.
Unfortunately, I think there will be many poor broke people in the future to deal with also and they won’t have anything to trade with and become a problem for people who are prepared and have their act together. Sorry for the jumbled post. I could easily be wrong about many things and still have fresh veggies and various small animals to eat. Will you?

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
January 31, 2022 10:34 pm

My wife dabbles in bitcoin. You go girl, I’m retired, she makes the money. Did I say I told you so!!

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
January 31, 2022 10:36 pm

It’s all gambling. Whatever.

Booster Fish
Booster Fish
February 1, 2022 6:15 am

“Money shouldn’t be this difficult to understand.”

It’s not, and he shouldn’t write articles about that which he doesn’t understand.

I get the Peter Schiff “Bitcoin is worthless” argument, but this guy is nowhere even close to making a relevant argument about Bitcoin, other than how clueless he is about it.