Biden Wants To Tax Income That You Don’t Have

Guest Post by Paul Craig Roberts

Biden Wants To Tax Income That You Don’t Have

Paul Craig Roberts

The White House Moron wants to tax unrealized capital gains, and some neoliberal economists think it is a good idea.

Let’s take a look and see what we think.

A capital gain is an increase in the price of something since you purchased it.  It could be a stock, a bond, a house, artwork, gold, silver, anything for which there is a market.  An unrealized capital gain is a paper gain based on the day’s price. It is not income and it is not wealth until it is realized.  You realize it by selling the item, thereby having the money in your possession.  An unrealized capital gain is a potential possession.

So what does it mean to tax income you have not received?  Suppose you purchase stock at the beginning of the year and it rises in value by year end. That rise is an unrealized capital gain.  You pay the tax on the unrealized gain, and then in the new year the stock market falls, wiping out the taxed gain.  The tax you paid eats into your original investment.  You have experienced a wealth confiscation.

Most economists understand that there is no such thing as a capital gain on stocks or homes. If you sell your stock or home, the replacement cost is the sale proceeds.  If the stock or home has increased in price since you purchased it, you have to pay a tax on the sale proceeds. (You get an exemption on your home gain up to a certain amount.)  Consequently, you cannot replace the stock or home with your sales proceeds net of tax.  So what did you gain?  You lost.

What would happen, for example, to the stock market if unrealized gains are taxed? There would be increased volatility.  People would tend to realize their gains as they occurred so as to avoid taxed gains being wiped out by a market correction.

It is also likely that net new investment would decline.  Capital gains are a measure of rising profitability. The capital gain satisfies the investor in the company, leaving him content with a low dividend, thus freeing most of the earnings for debt-free investment.  If unrealized capital gains are taxed, the person has to find the money elsewhere to pay the tax, as he hasn’t realized the taxed gain. He has to sell some other asset, cut back his living standard, or borrow the money to pay the tax.  The cost and inconvenience of this would lead to pressure on companies to pay out more or all of their earnings in dividends in order for investors to avoid paying taxes on gains that might turn out not to be there.  This would reduce the funds the company has in retained earnings for investment, and force the company to borrow, that is, to indebt itself to maintain the same level of investment.

Consider also the effect of taxing unrealized capital gains on quarterly estimated tax payments. The taxpayer doesn’t know if a stock market boom is going to push up equity prices and leave him with a large unrealized gain at the end of the year or experience a correction, so how does he estimate the required quarterly payments for non-W-2 income?

Suppose the taxation of unrealized capital gains applies to your home.  In a rising housing market, where do you get the money to pay the tax on the rise in your home value?  Do you borrow it, sell your car, cut back your living standard?  Do you do this year after year in rising housing markets?

The same question arises for an art dealer or collector.

As you can see, taxing unrealized capital gains is a nonsensical idea.

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MrLiberty
MrLiberty
April 10, 2022 6:49 pm

Property taxes have already set a bit of a precedent. They tax you for increases in value, but no additional money is in your hand. Don’t mistake that as an endorsement of this clearly criminal and unconstitutional idea. Government is the greatest evil ever created by man.

Balbinus
Balbinus
  MrLiberty
April 10, 2022 8:46 pm

Human government was ordained by God after Noah got off the boat, not man. You would be right in the fact that ungodly men have made a total disaster of God’s original plan.

VOWG
VOWG
  Balbinus
April 11, 2022 5:42 am

God made a mistake somewhere along the line. I always thought a couple of the commandments should have been genetically encoded so man could never break them.
Thou shall not kill anyone ever by any means ever, that would include abortion and war and euthanasia.
Thou shall not steal any thing from your fellow man by any means period, be it the theft of a candy bar or fraud of any sort, that would include government theft as well.
Free will in all other areas but not those two.

Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
  Balbinus
April 11, 2022 6:02 am

I may be mistaken but isn’t there something about the gov running on a 10 % tax rate also.

RJ
RJ

That 10% (tithe) was to support the Levite priests.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  RJ
April 11, 2022 3:12 pm

My favorite tithe is the Deuteronomy 14 tithe…

Deuteronomy 14:22-27 KJB… “Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always. And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the Lord thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the Lord thy God hath blessed thee: Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the Lord thy God shall choose: And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household, And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee.”

I call it the party tithe… 😆

RJ
RJ
  Balbinus
April 11, 2022 10:08 am

Human government was created by Nimrod…read your Bible before you comment on it.

The Duke of New York
The Duke of New York
  MrLiberty
April 10, 2022 9:23 pm

Exactly, my property taxes are up 300% in the past 6 years, that’s essentially an unrealized capital gains tax

They are desperate, never mind that they print up far more than we could ever pay, but they want everything they see, they are Veruca Salt on steroids

another Doug
another Doug
  MrLiberty
April 10, 2022 9:30 pm

Or maybe the abusive taxation is worst? Though lately govt. has certainly become a monster.

august
august
  MrLiberty
April 11, 2022 12:04 pm

>>>Government is the greatest evil ever created by man.

Not exactly true. FWIW, this was all covered in Forbidden Planet.

bug
bug
April 10, 2022 7:15 pm

The game is that the wealthy borrow against their capital and spend that – tax free. I’m not really into having anybody pay taxes, but when Warren Buffet can say his secretary pays more taxes than he does, there is definitely something screwy going on somewhere.

JimN
JimN
April 10, 2022 8:00 pm

Someone should point out to PCR that the concept he is discussing is already an economic fact. Since at least the 1990s, commodity futures holders are taxed on their annual unrealized gains.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
April 10, 2022 8:05 pm

Income is taxed at a higher rate than capital gains. What does that tell you?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Glock-N-Load
April 10, 2022 9:49 pm

Fuck the little guy.

World War Zeke (Astoria)
World War Zeke (Astoria)
April 10, 2022 8:19 pm

Similarly, rainy day checking accounts and life savings are been taxed into oblivion by fiat inflation’s purchase power decay into digital toilet paper. Can one claim a loss due to central bank ponzi?

It’s almost midterm election season, Biden must bang the Free Shit Army drum to turn out his base of productivity haters and get plausible deniability on another lightly rigged vote. Sigh.

VOWG
VOWG
  World War Zeke (Astoria)
April 11, 2022 5:45 am

That is one that I have been experiencing as an old retired, on his own dime, man with modest investments meant to carry me through to the end of my life.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
April 10, 2022 8:47 pm

Sooooo, if there are unrealized capital losses, is the gubbamint going to pay me??? Didn’t think so. It only goes one way. All taxes are theft.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  ILuvCO2
April 10, 2022 11:16 pm

I have no idea how the proposal is written. Surely it is written to screw as many as possible, but I occasionally buy an option contract that carries over into the next year. On my taxes, I am forced to pay taxes on yet unrealized profits if that is the case on 12/31 but can also back submit and take the losses as well (and losses as of 12/31 are counted as such to offset gains. Just a giant fucking misery when it comes to doing taxes however. Screw government, and every horse of the apocalypse that it rode in on.

august
august
  ILuvCO2
April 11, 2022 12:09 pm

>>>is the gubbamint going to pay me?

Strangely that possibility exists. At one point in my life, I was working in New Zealand, and received an unexpected $70,000 tax bill due to unrealized capital gains; the following year, I received an unexpected check from the government for $30,000. That which had gone up, had then gone down.

FWIW, I left New Zealand after that year. Idiots… in many ways.

Dan
Dan
April 10, 2022 11:59 pm

The criminals in power want ALL of our wealth and they intend to get it…by any means possible. This is just ONE way they will try to accomplish that.

VOWG
VOWG
April 11, 2022 5:36 am

Taxing something before a gain is realized is beyond communism and should result in the immediate removal from society of anyone advocating such idiocy.

brian
brian
April 11, 2022 10:29 am

Its not about grabbing your unrealized profits. Its ALL about grabbing your wealth AND your land.

What do you suppose they will do when you cannot pay your property taxes???

You do not own your land, you are merely a renter. If you decided to not pay your taxes then the guberment will send a team of pricey lawyers to take the property from you, using your money in the process. It’s not about taking money but it IS all about fulfilling the “you’ll own nothing and be happy”. And they could care less about the happy portion, they cover that with drugs later…

They WILL tax us unvax’d nazi’s into oblivion, count on it as its the simplest way of stealing your lands and wealth…

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
April 11, 2022 2:21 pm

Tax deez nutz you fucken communist heathens.

Eat shit and die. This year’s check to stay out of jail will be earmarked with a note to Joe Biden to buy a giant fucken cactus dildo and shove it up his rotten ass.

Fucken imbeciles are really pushing this unreality bullshit with unrealized gains. If it is unrealized then how the fuck can you apply realized to it?

Fuck it I guess. Those idiots are making up shit as they go. I identify as broke, baboon fucked child atm, aka antique farm equipment from pre-1861 America. Givez me da Benjamins you federal cunts.

Seriously though: fuck every American that thinks any tax is a good thing unless it is a tax that the assholes that voted for the assholes trying to increase taxes have to pay.

I bet taxation would stop real fucken quick.

It is way past the time to go 1776 again.

FOAD fuckers.

ZFG, out.

P.S. fuck taxes and fuck you Joe Biden et al.

World War Zeke (Astoria)
World War Zeke (Astoria)
  Zulu Foxtrot Golf
April 11, 2022 7:17 pm

Got the sense your representatives in government, and fellow voters of limited means, have tarnished your national pride. They will be so disappointed in us when we just let -them- burn it all down and we walk away.

Jason Calley
Jason Calley
April 11, 2022 7:14 pm

PCR makes some good, ethical, logical, and fiscally responsible points about why taxes on unrealized capital gains should not be implemented. Unfortunately he misses a MAJOR point, the same point which he misses over and over in many of his articles. That point? The US Federal government is not good, not ethical, not logical, and absolutely not fiscally responsible. The REAL reason why the Feds push these various confiscatory schemes is EXACTLY the same reason a pimp tells his whores, “I WANT MY DAMN MONEY, BITCH! GIVE ME MY MONEY OR I’LL CUT YOUR $@%* THROAT!”

We are ruled by criminal psychopaths and they are enthusiastic about the idea of using violence against whomever they wish.