The Kremlin said Saturday that it plans to test a new-generation nuclear ICBM capable of striking the US by the fall.
According to Reuters, the ambitious target was announced by Dmitry Rogozin, head of the Roscosmos space agency, on Saturday just days after the first test launch was carried out on Wednesday. Western military experts said more tests would be needed before the missile could be deployed.
The Sarmat is capable of carrying 10 or more nuclear warheads (or decoys) and of striking targets thousands of miles away in the US or Europe.
This week’s test came after years of delays due to funding and technical issues. The missile test marked a show of strength by Russia at a time when the war in Ukraine has sent tensions with the US and its allies soaring to the highest levels since the 1962 Cuban missile crisis.
During an interview with Russian state TV, Rogozin said that the missiles would be deployed with a unit in the Krasnoyarsk region of Siberia, about 3,000 km (1,860 miles) east of Moscow.
He added that they would be stored at the same sites, and in the same silos, as the Soviet-era Voyevoda missiles they will be replacing, something that would save “colossal resources and time”.
Rogozin added that the launch of the new Russian “super-weapon” would be an historic event that would guarantee the security of Russia’s ‘children and grandchildren’ for the next 30-40 years.
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Dumb article title. It was already tested.
“tested”? Sure it wasn’t launched in order to be here(US) by autumn? Doesn’t Orange Putin Bad know that we’d see it coming by August. And then after much political posturing, maybe we would shoot it down by Sept 18th or so to beat that autumn strike date.
There are no nuclear weapons. At least take some solace in that.
Ah, someone on this site who would prefer a nuke war.
And I thought I was cynical.
Not my downvote, but that is some dubious reasoning there, farmer.
Rejection of your erroneous assertion is not a de facto endorsement for nuclear war.
You have proof that the assertion is erroneous? I am all ears.
You’re correct about the causation/correlation factor, however. Somebody just might enjoy hitting the thumbs down for no reason at all.
As well there are obviously other explanations, but most of them would be rooted in the belief in nuclear weaponry, and the article clearly makes the point that their use is a possibility, therefore, you know, it follows…
Considering NOW is the first time nuclear-armed world powers have come into direct conflict since the development of nuclear weapons, and what that fact in-and-of-itself indicates (is itself evidence of), with respect to the doctrine of nuclear Mutually Assured Destruction…
…all the proof you could ever hope for is in the offing.
BUT… if you’re actually interested in a friendly debate about the existence/non-existence of nuclear weapons, I suggest we fire up a dedicated comment board for that purpose. I’ll be happy to engage you on the subject then and there and we could take our time about it.
It would be a busy comment board and would require more time than I have available this morning. That said, I am most assuredly willing to take the time if you are.
My only proof is human behavior. Same for the Moon landings.
Human beings do not have a track record for discovering/inventing/acheiving things and then promptly putting them away forever. It’s not in our nature. Add to that the lying nature of governments and the money involved and you’ve got means, motive and opportunity paired with human nature. Circumstantial evidence to be sure, but way more than the converse which is basically the Governments telling us- we have it, we just care too much about people to use it.
Between the two, which seems more likely? I think the word for it is probability.
Of course I could be wrong, but then so could everyone else.
Less than a century is not forever, farmer.
Last time nuclear weapons were used in combat was 9 August 1945.
I’ll allow, the time elapsed between then and now IS an unusual example of actual prudence practiced by our imprudent species. If in 1945 I had to bet on the timeline for these weapon’s subsequent usage in combat or terrorism, I would never have guessed we’d make it this far without.
But the human seed, while imprudent, has historically been a creature of expediency and convenience. And not wanting to be vaporized in turn is a powerful deterrent against using these weapons in the first place. As for the Moon? It could be that until now, there hasn’t been enough financial incentive to return. It is interesting though, how these subjects naturally link to each other. A debate about nuclear weapons would comfortably slip into the topics of the Moon landings and, of course, the physical shape of the Earth.
Beware the logical fallacy, farmer. Especially the non sequitur.
But they do all sort of lead right into one another, don’t they?
Here is what I think I know.
Japan was on the verge of surrendering anyway and while Winston and Harry weren’t going to try out a new “experimental” bomb on Europeans, they didn’t have a problem dropping it on a bunch of slant-eyes who’d been allowed to bomb Pearl Harbor in order to drag the USA into the war.
So, they dropped the A-bombs on a couple of Japanese cities just to see what they could see.
I believe the atomic bombs dropped in WWII and the subsequent weapons tested by the USSR were real.
I watched a number of ICBM launches over my military years in AWACS and was on an augmented (24 hours) crew tracking a missile from northern Alaska to somewhere in the Pacific far away from there. But, as for what detonated far under the sea? I do not know, but I do know an awful lot of money got spent to do it. So, if it is all theater, it is very expensive and finely orchestrated theater.
And, I have zero doubt what we are seeing in Ukraine now is mostly theater.
WWII gave birth to CIA and this leads to Berlin airlift leads to Cold War posture leads to North/South Korea and Domino Theory leads to Vietnam interupted by the race to the moon which ended around the time Watergate showed us how terrible our national leaders were and we refused to admit it.
I like to believe someone with some sense deactivated all the nukes and hope you are correct about weapons awaiting use, HSF. I hope so, but I know there was a shitload of them at one time in a place I visited in the desert one time.
It is interesting though, how these subjects naturally link to each other. A debate about nuclear weapons would comfortably slip into the topics of the Moon landings and, of course, the physical shape of the Earth.
Most people have never been close to inveterate liars to understand how they operate. Most people are used to telling fibs so when they catch someone in a lie- someone who is habitual- they assume that they are just like you are, capable of telling a white lie now and then and often for expediency, but not able to be psychopathic about it.
That is the commonality I find between these disparate topics. Each of them is crafted by, an in turn turned into a massive advantage to those in power. No American citizen has ever profited from or has had their lives bettered by these narratives. We simply foot the bill. In fact they are used like cudgels to keep us in line with no visible benefit demonstrated.
I look at the world as interconnected because from all appearances it is. Specialists- and we live in the age of specialization- almost always look at things as distinct and separate events operating in an historic vacuum. Rather it looks- by the behavior and outcomes- to be a kind of dynastic elite fleecing the human sheep, each one with a revolving set of pathological liars and their well paid aparatchiks, running a constant grift at a global level for decades at a time.
1. A ‘holistic’ view of global (ha ha ha) machinations is the only view that yields sense of the Beast which is, as you note, ever busy fleecing the people. (Now, nothing constrains my using the term ‘global’ in the course of normal conversation. But what are you doing using that term in your final sentence above?!?!)
2. I find that psychopathy is best understood as pathological self worship. It is a disease… a disorder. But the psychopaths in positions of real power in this world, are adherents of an actual religion which can be studied and rightly comprehended. The development of nuclear weapons would not have been possible without the Kabbalah. And the rocket rides to the Moon were more than theater — they were all rituals; the Saturn 5 phallus carried its payload of seed in the form of men across the abyss (an infertile womb) to a barren and lifeless world. Previously, ships sailed from mainland Europe carrying men across another abyss to a fertile promised land, the New Atlantis. The first event (terrestrial) was a counterfeit of Israel’s journey from Egypt to Canaan. The second (celestial) was not a counterfeit, but was the same event remade in the image of the Beast, the ‘promised land’ in this case being desolation represented by a lifeless planet. Both events were ritualistically conducted by religionists of the worldly ‘Masonic’ system of the Seven Nations, about which plenty has been said in the Old Testament. The Apollo Moon landing was of critical importance for this system, ritualistically. This is where the deception lies; not in the question of whether or not the ritual was actually conducted.
1) I use the term global in the geo-political sense, not the shape.
2) I like the rest of your post as it feels true based on what can be observed even if it isn’t proveable.
I do disagree on the defintion of psychopathy. I don’t see it as a sickness, but rather as a human behavior that yields outcomes that benefit certain individuals at the expense of others. Sicknesses are a debilitation to an individual, not a benefit. Our dislike or moral objection notwithstanding.
You just made me realize I never wanted to be a specialist, and that is giving me a little inspiration boost. No shit.
Thanks, HF.
I took P chem which makes me as knowledgeable as anyone not a nuclear physicist, and I think your human nature reasoning is as solid as any proof I have seen for nuclear weapons (of the boom kind).
prefer a what?
Is this racist?
The missile could reach the USA by …. autumn??
Wow, that’s a really SLOW moving missile, dontchya think?
Why do the authors (and I’ve seen it elswhere, too) feel the need to include the phrase “capable of striking the US”?
Are they not clear on what the ‘IC’ in ICBM means?
And why is it being phrased as if having missiles “capable of striking the US” is a new and unprecedented thing?
Is ZH merely adopting the wording of Reuters, or have they signed on to also do the fear-mongering, propaganda dirtywork of the MIC to help foster the new-and-improved NATO/USSR cold war?
On a separate note, I commented the other day that it appears (if Dmitry Orlov is right) that Putin may indeed want to re-form the USSR; but nobody wants the re-creation of the former Soviet Union more than the U.S. M.I.C.
Those were my thought too when I say the headline. How is this news?
ZH headlines are beginning to mimic the news stands in the subway.
Biden will solve the problem.
The smell of fall is in the air, the leaves are changing to vibrant pastel colors and the mushroom clouds are blooming off in the distance.
“A Globalist Utopian Dream”
>Benjamin Franklin
(sarc.)
Too bad he can’t test it on DC, the entire world would be the better for it.
I second that motion, especially if it were confined to the area that is walled to protect the corruptocrats and congresscritters.
I would imagine that every ICBM in their arsenal, regardless of what it carries, is capable of hitting the US and is likely already targeted in that direction. Sadly no weapons can be targeted perfectly and accurately against specific individuals. Most Americans likely have a list going.
Is this one of those super sonic rockets that can go like 7000 MPH? If it is the article misses the main point, it could be indefensible with current intercept technology. Oh well, I guess I will continue to live one day at time until the my last.
6 months seems like a rather long time for a missile to fly over here.