Clash Of Christianities – Why Europe Cannot Understand Russia

Authored by Pepe Escobar via The Cradle,

Western Europeans see the Orthodox and eastern Christians as satraps and a bunch of smugglers, while the Orthodox regard the Crusaders as barbarian usurpers bent on world conquest…

Christianity, once again, at the heart of a civilizational battle – this time among Christians themselves.

Under an ubiquitous, toxic atmosphere of cognitive dissonance drenched in Russophobia, it’s absolutely impossible to have a meaningful discussion on finer points of Russian history and culture across the NATO space – a phenomenon I’m experiencing back in Paris right now, fresh from a long stint in Istanbul.

At best, in a semblance of civilized dialogue, Russia is pigeonholed in the reductionist view of a threatening, irrational, ever-expanding empire – a way more wicked version of Ancient Rome, Achaemenid Persia, Ottoman Turkey or Mughal India.

The fall of the USSR a little over three decades ago did hurl Russia back three centuries – to its borders in the 17th century. Russia, historically, had been interpreted as a secular empire – immense, multiple and multinational. This is all informed by history, very much alive even today in the Russian collective unconscious.

When Operation Z started I was in Istanbul – the Second Rome. I spent a considerable time of my late night walks around Hagia Sophia reflecting on the historical correlations of the Second Rome with the Third Rome – which happens to be Moscow, since the concept was first enounced at the start of the 16th century.

Later, back in Paris, banishment to soliloquy territory seemed inevitable until an academic pointed me to some substance, although heavily distorted by political correctness, available in the French magazine Historia.

There’s at least an attempt to discuss the Third Rome. The significance of the concept was initially religious before becoming political – encapsulating the Russian drive to become the leader of the Orthodox world in contrast with Catholicism. This has to be understood also in the context of pan-Slavic theories springing up under the first Romanov and then reaching their apogee in the 19th century.

Eurasianism – and its several declinations – treats the complex Russian identity as double-faced, between east and west. Western liberal democracies simply can’t understand that these ideas – infusing varied brands of Russian nationalism – do not imply hostility to “enlightened” Europe, but an affirmation of Difference (they could learn a bit from reading more Gilles Deleuze for that matter). Eurasianism also weighs on closer relations with Central Asia and necessary alliances, in various degrees, with China and Turkey.

A perplexed liberal west remains hostage to a vortex of Russian images which it can’t properly decode – from the two-headed eagle, which is the symbol of the Russian state since Peter the Great, to the Kremlin cathedrals, the St. Petersburg citadel, the Red Army entering Berlin in 1945, the May 9 parades (the next one will be particularly meaningful), and historical figures from Ivan the Terrible to Peter the Great. At best – and we’re talking academic level ‘experts’ – they identify all of the above as “flamboyant and confused” imagery.

The Christian/Orthodox divide

The apparently monolithic liberal west itself also cannot be understood if we forget how, historically, Europe is also a two-headed beast: one head may be tracked from Charlemagne all the way to the awful Brussels Eurocrat machine; and the other one comes from Athens and Rome, and via Byzantium/Constantinople (the Second Rome) reaches all the way to Moscow (the Third Rome).

Latin Europe, for the Orthodox, is seen as a hybrid usurper, preaching a distorted Christianity which only refers to St. Augustine, practicing absurd rites and neglecting the very important Holy Ghost. The Europe of Christian Popes invented what is considered a historical hydra – Byzantium – where Byzantines were actually Greeks living under the Roman Empire.

Western Europeans for their part see the Orthodox and the Christians from the East (see how they were abandoned by the west in Syria under ISIS and Al Qaeda) as satraps and a bunch of smugglers – while the Orthodox regard the Crusaders, the Teutonic chevaliers and the Jesuits – correctly, we must say – as barbarian usurpers bent on world conquest.

In the Orthodox canon, a major trauma is the fourth Crusade in 1204 which utterly destroyed Constantinople. The Frankish chevaliers happened to eviscerate the most dazzling metropolis in the world, which congregated at the time all the riches from Asia.

That was the definition of cultural genocide. The Frankish also happened to be aligned with some notorious serial plunderers: the Venetians. No wonder, from that historical juncture onwards, a slogan was born: “Better the Sultan’s turban than the Pope’s tiara.”

So since the 8th century, Carolingian and Byzantine Europe were de facto at war across an Iron Curtain from the Baltics to the Mediterranean (compare it with the emerging New Iron Curtain of Cold War 2.0). After the barbarian invasions, they neither spoke the same language nor practiced the same writing, rites or theology.

This fracture, significantly, also trespassed Kiev. The west was Catholic – 15% of Greek catholics and 3% of Latins – and in the center and the east, 70% Orthodox, who became hegemonic in the 20th century after the elimination of Jewish minorities by mainly the Waffen-SS of the Galicia division, the precursors of Ukraine’s Azov batallion.

Constantinople, even in decline, managed to pull off a sophisticated geo-strategic game to seduce the Slavs, betting on Muscovy against the Catholic Polish-Lithuanian combo. The fall of Constantinople in 1453 allowed Muscovy to denounce the treason of Greeks and Byzantine Armenians who rallied around the Roman Pope, who badly wanted a reunified Christianity.

Afterward, Russia ends up constituting itself as the only Orthodox nation that did not fall under Ottoman domination. Moscow regards itself – as Byzantium – as a unique symphony between spiritual and temporal powers.

Third Rome becomes a political concept only in the 19th century – after Peter the Great and Catherine the Great had vastly expanded Russian power. The key concepts of Russia, Empire and Orthodoxy are fused. That always implies Russia needs a ‘near abroad’ – and that bears similarities with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s vision (which, significantly, is not imperial, but cultural).

As the vast Russian space has been in constant flow for centuries, that also implies the central role of the concept of encirclement. Every Russian is very much aware of territorial vulnerability (remember, for starters, Napoleon and Hitler). Once the western borderland is trespassed, it’s an easy ride all the way to Moscow. Thus, this very unstable line must be protected; the current correlation is the real threat of Ukraine made to host NATO bases.

Onward to Odessa

With the fall of the USSR, Russia found itself in a geopolitical situation last encountered in the 17th century. The slow and painful reconstruction was spearheaded from two fronts: the KGB – later FSB – and the Orthodox church. The highest-level interaction between the Orthodox clergy and the Kremlin was conducted by Patriarch Kirill – who later became Putin’s minister of religious affairs.

Ukraine for its part had become a de facto Moscow protectorate way back in 1654 under the Treaty of Pereyaslav: much more than a strategic alliance, it was a natural fusion, in progress for ages by two Orthodox Slav nations.

Ukraine then falls under the Russian orbit. Russian domination expands until 1764, when the last Ukrainian hetman (commander-in-chief) is officially deposed by Catherine the Great: that’s when Ukraine becomes a province of the Russian empire.

As Putin made it quite clear this week: “Russia cannot allow the creation of anti-Russian territories around the country.” Operation Z will inevitably encompass Odessa, founded in 1794 by Catherine the Great.

The Russians at the time had just expelled the Ottomans from the northwest of the Black Sea, which had been successively run by Goths, Bulgars, Hungarians and then Turkish peoples – all the way to the Tatars. Odessa at the start was peopled, believe it or not, by Romanians who were encouraged to settle there after the 16th century by the Ottoman sultans.

Catherine chose a Greek name for the city – which at the start was not Slav at all. And very much like St. Petersburg, founded a century earlier by Peter the Great, Odessa never stopped flirting with the west.

Tsar Alexander I, in the early 19th century, decides to turn Odessa into a great trading port – developed by a Frenchman, the Duke of Richelieu. It was from the port of Odessa that Ukrainian wheat started to reach Europe. By the turn of the 20th century, Odessa is truly multinational – after having attracted, among others, the genius of Pushkin.

Odessa is not Ukrainian: it’s an intrinsic part of the Russian soul. And soon the trials and tribulations of history will make it so again: as an independent republic; as part of a Novorossiya confederation; or attached to the Russian Federation. The people of Odessa will decide.

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23 Comments
m
m
May 1, 2022 8:48 am

Christianity, once again, at the heart of a civilizational battle – this time among Christians themselves.

That would be hilarious, if it wouldn’t display a dumbed-down (narrative-forming?) interpretation of current events, by Pepe.

Maybe Pepe should start with asking the question:
What remains of Latin Europe [which, long ago, was] preaching a Christianity which only refers to St. Augustine?

I would say close to nothing.
How it then can be a battle among Christians themselves, escapes me.

A battle between the last strong holdout of Christians against irreligious people, yes.

Two if by sea.
Two if by sea.
  m
May 1, 2022 10:15 am

Thank you M.
You nailed the articles faulty cornerstone.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
May 1, 2022 9:19 am

Wow.

So retarded.

Yes, indeed, it’s Christians against Christians, who can’t see it?

Boogieman
Boogieman
  hardscrabble farmer
May 1, 2022 11:28 am

Correction- One side may be Christian (Spoiler Alert- it’s no the West). This fight is not about Christianity vs Christianity. This fight is about God vs Satan. We should all choose wisely. Could become a fight for all the marbles really fast.

RiNS
RiNS
  hardscrabble farmer
May 1, 2022 11:49 am

Reading book now AP! Interesting clash of civilizations. A fella gets to wondering if the old traditions coulda been kept the West wouldn’t be in the mess that it is…

RiNS
RiNS
  RiNS
May 1, 2022 11:53 am

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PSBindy
PSBindy
May 1, 2022 10:42 am

I have an idea.

To show that Christians can get along and resolve doctrinal differences with an amical, even prayerful, discussion, let’s settle the Rapture differences here at TBP.

You start.

m
m
  PSBindy
May 1, 2022 11:09 am

Contentious, but meaningless.

Why don’t you start instead with the true meaning of ‘Original Sin.’

PSBindy
PSBindy
  m
May 1, 2022 1:47 pm

“Contentious but meaningless.”

I can feel the love in that response.

Ginger
Ginger
  PSBindy
May 1, 2022 11:16 am

2 Timothy 2:23-26
Amplified Bible
” But have nothing to do with foolish and ignorant speculations [useless disputes over unedifying, stupid controversies], since you know that they produce strife and give birth to quarrels. The servant of the Lord must not participate in quarrels, but must be kind to everyone [even-tempered, preserving peace, and he must be], skilled in teaching, patient and tolerant when wronged. He must correct those who are in opposition with courtesy and gentleness in the hope that God may grant that they will repent and be led to the knowledge of the truth [accurately understanding and welcoming it], and that they may come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will.”

First the whole definition of what a Christian is, or isn’t, should examined and agreed upon. The first mention of the word ‘Christian’ is Acts 11:26.

Toujours Pret
Toujours Pret
  Ginger
May 1, 2022 12:01 pm

“First the whole definition of what a Christian is, or isn’t, should (be) examined…”. Agreed. Calling yourself a Christian does not mean that you are actually a Christian. Like the khazars calling themselves jews when, for the most part, they are as semitic as the potted plant in the corner of this room.

Ginger
Ginger
  Toujours Pret
May 1, 2022 12:05 pm

Thanks for adding the (be). Always odd how when proofreading one’s own writing it is so easy to miss something.
Edit: had to go back and fix something just then, dang it is bad getting old.

Known Associate
Known Associate
  Toujours Pret
May 1, 2022 6:17 pm

The Khazars are not Jews, as in Semitic People. They are the usurpers of the name. The native peoples of Palestine are all of one blood, though through the corruption of Satan have been separated. The people of Christ and the people of Moses are of one blood but have been separated by the Zionists of Breton Woods to create the false nation of Israel.

Ghost
Ghost
  Known Associate
May 2, 2022 10:15 pm

Cued to a very important question about denazification process ongoing now…

RiNS
RiNS
  PSBindy
May 1, 2022 12:00 pm

Odin is Lord and will smite all those who pretend to be interlocutors between this world and the next.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  RiNS
May 1, 2022 11:36 pm

Well, pretty much everyone is going to get smited except Vidharr and a few others. But at least we get to go out with a bang.

Ghost
Ghost
May 1, 2022 12:44 pm

This young journalist (recently censored by the daily beast?) had an most excellent interview and discussion with Pepe Escobar.

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KV
KV
May 1, 2022 2:45 pm

Imagine blaming Christians for this conflict when jews run both sides of it like they always have. What a fucking joke.

Ken31
Ken31
  KV
May 2, 2022 9:38 pm

It confirms my suspicion of just who (((Pepe Escobar))) is.

Known Associate
Known Associate
May 1, 2022 5:33 pm

“This fracture, significantly, also trespassed Kiev. The west was Catholic – 15% of Greek Catholics and 3% of Latins – and in the center and the east, 70% Orthodox, who became hegemonic in the 20th century after the elimination of Jewish minorities by mainly the Waffen-SS of the Galicia division, the precursors of Ukraine’s Azov batallion.”

That’s some funny shit right there: Azov Nazism is a false flag, as is most Nazism. The origin of the label lies with the Khazars, who needed an “enemy” in order to deflect the revulsion of the Old World from their assault on Orthodox Christianity. The original teaching of Jesus was peace through self-possession in the face of tyranny, and that could no longer be tolerated by Satan and his minions, since their goal is to OWN EVERYTHING.

Zelensky and his US/UN/NATO {{handlers}} are all Khazarian puppets of Zion, hell-bent on immanentizing the Eschaton.

So today, every heart felt connection with the Prince of Peace is actively being severed and replaced by hate and digital distraction. The Pope is the left hand of this Satanic assault on peace and harmony. For reference, see a book called “Hitler’s Pope”, about Pius XII. You need to understand that Jesus never intended a CHURCH, just another implementation of control, but rather a separation from BROKERS TO SALVATION. Rome started the whole distraction by appointing the FIRST BROKER FOR CONNECTION WITH OUR SAVIOR.

The Old Testament was an Abrahamic/Mosaic false flag, and the New Testament, though it contains some shreds of TRUTH, was simply another, intended to defenestrate the new idea that peace is a state of mind with great rewards.

The crusaders were the original Khazarian Nazis and they are both responsible for the historical destruction of the Silk Road, as well as the current suicidal attempts to prohibit the re-building thereof. Where are we today, the fucking 21st Crusade?

The only solution is active, loud and persistent withdrawal of consent to the final enslavement. If we fail, Satan wins, though only for a time, until more worthy opponents appear.

Ken31
Ken31
  Known Associate
May 2, 2022 1:28 am

They will continue to drive the elect to Orthodox Christianity with their wickedness. I like that phrase “peace through self-possession”. This is my own experience too. The Christ opens the way to being my own master and therefore I pray to serve the Lord.

I can not recognize the Word in many whom I should expect to find it and I have ceased judging.

I do not know what you mean about the NT, but I have been through enough pitfalls to know where I stand. The OT never had the same legitimacy as the Gospels, because that religion died.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 1, 2022 11:59 pm

“Western Europeans see the Orthodox and eastern Christians as satraps and a bunch of smugglers”
It’s such a universal view that I’ve never heard it before or known anyone who said any such thing. I don’t think I’ve even heard anyone say ‘satrap’ out loud.

“Odessa is not Ukrainian: it’s an intrinsic part of the Russian soul”
Let’s just check that, Pepe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Odessa
“The history of the Jews in Odesa [Odessa:Odesa, Kiev:KEEEEEEEEEEEEV] dates to 16th century. Since the city’s founding in 1795, Odesa has been home to one of the largest population of Jews in Ukraine. They comprised the largest ethno-religious group in the region throughout most of the 19th century and until the mid-20th century. ”
“From 1880 to 1920, Odesa had the second largest Jewish population in the Russian Empire.”

“The people of Odessa will decide.”
Yes they will, Pepe.

m
m
  Anonymous
May 2, 2022 4:30 am

Interesting.
Shall I give you an up-vote for your first paragraph calling out Pepe’s bullshit,
or a down-vote for your own cherry-picked bullshit in the second paragraph?