QOTD: WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS?

We took my 86 year old mom to Wildwood this weekend to celebrate her birthday.

Woke up at 5:30 this morning to witness a spectacular sunrise over the Atlantic Ocean.

As the sun came out of the sea, there wasn’t a cloud in the sky. Not one.

Took a walk on the beach at 9:30 and there were planes crisscrossing the sky laying down their chemtrails.

The perfectly blue sky now had these man made chemtrails diminishing its beauty.

By 11:00 there was a milky haze engulfing and obscuring the blue skies. All man made.

Why is the government spraying these chemicals into the atmosphere? Is it to stop global warming or is it something more sinister? How much is it costing the taxpayers, and why is it denied by the government when it is plain to anyone with a functioning brain and two eyes?

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AKJohn
AKJohn
May 1, 2022 11:51 am

I never see this in Anchorage Alaska, and we have a military base with plenty of jets which you see all the time.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  AKJohn
May 1, 2022 12:00 pm

You have HAARP taking care of the weather manipulation already. No need for chemtrails too.

BL
BL
  AKJohn
May 1, 2022 12:04 pm
AKJohn
AKJohn
  BL
May 1, 2022 12:17 pm

Yes, you might see a couple. But the sky never gets all hazy from them as mentioned in the article.

Javelin
Javelin
  AKJohn
May 1, 2022 2:24 pm

I was watching out of my work window one day of heavy spraying and pointed it out to some coworkers who brushed it off..a half hour later they had made a giant checkerboard after crisscrossing. Five new believers and a hazy sky horizon to horizon in an hour as they dispersed.

AKJohn
AKJohn
  AKJohn
May 1, 2022 3:16 pm

We had a beautiful April with about 25 sunny days, and I never saw even one, and I go out walking for 2 hours a day. If it happens, it’s definitely and oddity.

AKJohn
AKJohn
  AKJohn
May 1, 2022 7:47 pm

Had another awesome walk under a dep blue sky with no chemtrails insight. I will try to track it every day.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  AKJohn
May 2, 2022 1:00 am

John, I’m up north also. In Anchorage they’ve gone past the more obvious ‘trails’ we used to see when I first noticed them almost a decade ago to a much more sophisticated system. The links to Elana Freeland’s most recent talks are below. I’m listening to Part 2 now and will prob not be able to sleep it’s so upsetting…….

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
May 1, 2022 12:07 pm

At first I was in agreement with the “blocking the sun to prevent global warming” BS (not that I agree that it needs to be prevented, etc. but I agree with that as a possible explanation of their intent). Geoengineering of this kind has been well-documented and has even been openly promoted recently (as something we could try in the future….LOL). As the ingredients of the spray have never been fully documented (aluminum, barium, sulfur all presented as likely candidates), one cannot truly know what other things they intend for this toxification of the atmosphere to accomplish. Now however, given the actions of the past two years, the destruction of food processing plants, the blocking of fertilizer and grain shipments, etc. I would now say that it is part of a long “extermination” plan that is actually blocking the sunlight to reduce crop yields and cause even more starvation, etc. There is of course the possibility that it is all toxic waste and this is the government’s version of “the solution to pollution is dilution.” There was once a plan to do the same thing with the contents of the Stringfellow Acid Pits in Glen Avon, CA (once #1 on the EPA Superfund list), so that is another possibility (yeah, someone seriously proposed that).

BL
BL
  MrLiberty
May 1, 2022 12:17 pm

Liberty- Here’s a new one. Some of the particles are “Smart Dust” which can be used by the 4800 satellites in orbit that will “blanket” the entire Earth in internet signals for tracking purposes. My county is planning “blanket” internet for all soon. There will be no places untouched .

Mostly it is weather modification.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  BL
May 1, 2022 12:27 pm

I no longer dismiss even the more far-fetched, outrageous, or heinous possibilities. These are insane mass murderers with ZERO regard for humanity or the planet for that matter.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
May 1, 2022 1:55 pm

(as something we could try in the future….LOL)

With Gates’ backing, Harvard Geoengineering under Prof. David Keith talked about this for years and then actually got started on testing it in the southwest U.S. The Harvard website is a jumble and many things have simply been memory-holed; but assiduous research (which I don’t have time to do, but which others had already done years ago) will ultimately reveal that that is not only the plan for the future, it is already underway on a limited scale.
The best way to know that this is actually currently happening is that after a couple quasi-mainstream articles about it, all the usual “fact-checkers” (fact-check.org; politifact; etc) came out with “fact-checks” claiming to debunk it.

As for the rest of “chemtrails” I don’t know what they are; but I know that attempts to say that they’ve always been there is 100% gaslighting.
Jets and contrails existed in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s, but never did numerous “exhaust plumes” spread and persist in the sky to create a totally artificial overcast sky. It just did not used to happen.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Anonymous
May 1, 2022 4:45 pm

I remember an article last year about how the government of Sweden had kicked Gates and his climate manipulating application of chemicals to their skies … and, not surprisingly, he’s rumored to have been doing it in the US for decades as well as in other nations more recently.

What a guy … if you’re into sociopaths …

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
May 1, 2022 5:06 pm

“At first I was in agreement with the “blocking the sun to prevent global warming” BS..”

Why?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Anonymous
May 1, 2022 9:55 pm

Because that seemed like the kind of shit they would do and the kind of reasoning they would employ. Note, I did say that I did not agree that it SHOULD be done, or was even necessary…the question of the day was “why” are THEY doing it….and at first I was of the belief that this was the kind of reasoning they would idiotically embrace….and most idiotically because they have NO IDEA what kinds of other impacts it might have….nor do they care obviously.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
May 2, 2022 6:52 am

It Was a direct copy/paste quote, verbatim.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
May 1, 2022 12:13 pm

An 86 year old on the beach? Damn, looking good mom, looking good.

Admin
Admin
  Glock-N-Load
May 1, 2022 12:51 pm

That’s Avalon. My mom can barely walk or hear. She was on the porch.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Admin
May 1, 2022 1:02 pm

I was going to say, wow, I can’t hardly get my 84 year old father out of his chair let along go to the beach. Mom is bedridden at age 84. So, I’d say, even if your mother is sitting on the porch…looking good mom, looking good.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
May 1, 2022 12:54 pm

Funny how the chemtrails went on pause during Covid. Now they’re back in full force! Whatever is in them, you can bet it’s not good for us, and I have zero doubt TPTB are using different methods, including the “gene-therapy vaccines” to kill us all!

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  WestcoastDeplorable
May 1, 2022 4:48 pm

Not sure where you live, but that’s not been true here in the greater PDX/Vancouver, WA area … they’ve been going full-tilt with it the entire time.

It happens easily every other day … on cloudy days, we have no idea what they’re doing, but on clear days you can see the parade of high-altitude jets criss-crossing the sky and laying down their grid pattern.

I used to criticize my mother for her Art Bell hysteria back in the ’90s … now I see that he was onto something …

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  WestcoastDeplorable
May 1, 2022 9:57 pm

They never let up in Atlanta. They always show up right before rain is forecast….I guess to get the rain to wash the shit into the land to pollute it and the rivers.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
May 1, 2022 10:52 pm

We got plastered with it today in N Texas (as usual).

Anonymous
Anonymous
  WestcoastDeplorable
May 2, 2022 6:56 am

Given the rapidity of the spread, it’s almost a given covid was sprayed. Almost a certainty more biologicals will follow. fairly well documented ‘Ethnicity specific’, (as much as possible) is, and has been underway for some time.

And people are ‘concerned’ about Nukes?

Stucky
Stucky
May 1, 2022 12:57 pm

Yo, Admin, I read yesterday in the NJ Shit Ledger that a 2 block portion of the boardwalk is near completion. Hope you had a chance to walk on it. Now get this ….. the total renovation will be somewhere around 15 blocks, take FIVE years to complete, and cost around $30 MILLION dollars. Wow, the Chinks could built 6 complete cities in five years.

Homes within walking distance of the new super duper Boardwalk will increase in value by about $10,000,000 each. You shoulda waited to sell.

Boogieman
Boogieman
May 1, 2022 12:57 pm

Well if your going to sell climate change, you gotta do something to make the weather look and feel different to the pawns. Aluminum boron nitride deflects gamma rays, many useful qualities if used properly.

Stucky
Stucky
May 1, 2022 1:02 pm

Chemtrails have been an item of discussion here since the very beginning. I have always maintained that it is a conspiracy theory, and a silly one at that.

As I sit here and ponder, ponder and sit, I wonder to myself, “Goddamn, how could you have been such a dumbass?”

Why do they do it? Don’t know, except for one thing …. they are doing it to hurt us.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Stucky
May 1, 2022 2:07 pm

How was the movie last night? Do you recommend it?

Stucky
Stucky
  Glock-N-Load
May 1, 2022 10:58 pm

I give it hundred thumbs up. The costuming, the scenery, the music, the plot, the dialogue, the acting ….. EVERY facet of the movie was simply superb. Pretty bloody …however, the violence never felt gratuitous. It felt “just right”. The director went to great lengths to make it as historically accurate as possible (according to many reviewers.)

One critic said it was a combo of Pulp Fiction, 300, and Kill Bill.

I will assure you, if you like “revenge” movies, you will love it.

Voltara
Voltara
  Stucky
May 1, 2022 8:39 pm

I agree, Ol’ Stucky. I used to dismiss it as a highly inefficient way in which to achieve their alleged results. Now I’m not so sure. We recently had major floods here in Australia. In the days prior and while the rain was coming down there were multiple RAAF (Australian air force) tanker planes flying circles for many hours on the edge of the systems. I have asked several people to explain what they were doing. Everyone was shocked when they saw the flight paths and has no explanation

Stucky
Stucky
  Voltara
May 1, 2022 11:04 pm

I’m not even basing my new belief on evidence.

I am basing it on the fact that this government is pure evil, led by evil people, willing to do evil things to normal people, sometimes to fit their agenda, and more often than not simply because to do evil for the sake of being evil …. cuz that is the very nature of evil people.

Peter Horry
Peter Horry
  Stucky
May 2, 2022 9:34 am

I’m coming around to this position too.

Stucky
Stucky
  Stucky
May 1, 2022 10:46 pm

Thanks, AP. I will try to get my hands on it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
May 2, 2022 7:09 am

A Universal Axiom, based on empirical evidence: The less someone knows about a particular subject OR in general, The more firm their convictions…All the way to Cognitive Dissonance.

Craven Warrior
Craven Warrior
May 1, 2022 1:08 pm

I know I feel like crap on the bad skies days.

BL
BL
  Craven Warrior
May 1, 2022 3:25 pm

Me too CW, I know they are spraying before I even get out of bed some days.

ursel doran
ursel doran
May 1, 2022 1:11 pm

Billions to Ukraine, but our own cities are a CATASTROPHE!!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Administrator
May 1, 2022 8:18 pm

She implies, you infer.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 2, 2022 7:17 am

Technically correct, Thank You. Generally feel that if all you have is grammar, spelling, and syntax errors to point out, You are shooting your self in the foot, I’m CERTAIN that was not your intent.

Typically, things devolve to infinite degrees of Formality. You are well prepared. Right before the actual Carnage starts historically.

A sling and a stone laid goliath low.

Ken31
Ken31
  Administrator
May 1, 2022 11:14 pm

It is mostly about joggers.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ken31
May 2, 2022 1:39 am

Don’t discount the bikes.

Red River D
Red River D
  ursel doran
May 1, 2022 6:43 pm

Right around the corner from Biff Tannen’s Pleasure Paradise!!!

Jack Van Snoot
Jack Van Snoot
May 1, 2022 1:39 pm

Your “chemtrails” is actually water vapor caused by the combustion of jet fuel. The vapor turns to ice crystals and leaves the cloud trail. But you can believe whatever you want. There is enough real sinister stuff that you don’t have to make up things.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jack Van Snoot
May 1, 2022 1:57 pm

Hey Jack Shit Gov.Scum.com, do they need to criss cross the skies and make the vapor trails?

Undeniable
Undeniable
  Anonymous
May 1, 2022 6:58 pm

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MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Undeniable
May 1, 2022 9:59 pm

I have a ton of pics from overhead in the Atlanta metro area that look exactly like that. I like to take pics of the chem and con trails in the same frame just to make the point when I show them.

BL
BL
  Jack Van Snoot
May 1, 2022 2:02 pm

Jack- You know not of what you speak. You describe a contrail which dissipates within a few minutes as the jet passes over. CHEMtrails , usually in grids, stay for hour and feather out to form solid haze/cloudlike cover. We know the difference in contrails and CHEMtrails. We don’t need to make things up because these arseholes have scads of ways to kill us off….had your CovAIDS vaxx yet??

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  BL
May 1, 2022 2:08 pm

Has anyone ever taken air samples during these chemtrail events? I’d imaging that could solve the riddle, no? Do we have any private pilots on TBP with a Cessna that could do this? If it is such a big deal, you’d think someone, somewhere would have tested the air by now.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Glock-N-Load
May 1, 2022 2:16 pm

^^^ Yeppers, GNL.

BL
BL
  Abigail Adams
May 1, 2022 5:19 pm

Maybe Glock can write a article about CHEMtrails after he actually researches the subject. We would all be very interested to read it.

BL
BL
  Glock-N-Load
May 1, 2022 2:18 pm

Glock- Air samples were taken and broken down years ago. Most of us have written about it over and over for about ten years now listing the components known. There are many sites dedicated to chemtrail education.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  BL
May 1, 2022 2:24 pm

BL…10 years now?? Must be a slow kill off, huh?

What symptoms should I look out for, in your opinion?

BL
BL
  Abigail Adams
May 1, 2022 2:47 pm

AA- This brand of CHEMtrail spraying started by .Gov admission around 1993. If you don’t believe it is a detrimental thing, ask yourself why they would waste a vast fortune of jet fuel carrying out a farce? What would be the point?

If you spend time observing, you would notice that they usually spray heavy 2-3 days before a storm front comes through from west to east.

Do you believe the respiratory health of Americans is better or worse than 40 or 50 years ago? Be honest…..

Abby- Look up and when you see a huge aerosol grid overtake the sky, come back and tell me if you think that is good for our health.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  BL
May 1, 2022 3:03 pm

I’m pretty observant and haven’t noticed it in the two places I’ve lived. But, I haven’t researched it yet…not enough time in the day! Still working on the flat earth theory…

I don’t know about the respiratory health of those from 40-50 years ago. I DO have asthma though! Damn…explains everything.

Thank you, BL.

BL
BL
  Abigail Adams
May 1, 2022 3:11 pm

I can assure you that you have chemtrails over your head during any given week AA, no problemo. How long have you suffered from asthma? Broncial Asthma or Asthmatic Bronchitis?

Do you consume dairy products?

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  BL
May 1, 2022 3:21 pm

Ok, I have spent a lot of time outside, but next time I will look extra, extra hard.

Bronchial Asthma all my life. Yes to dairy. I know diet can help improve asthma…to some extent.

BL
BL
  Abigail Adams
May 1, 2022 4:21 pm

Give up the dairy and see if that helps, it usually does.

Ken31
Ken31
  BL
May 1, 2022 11:17 pm

What about A2/A2 milk?

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Abigail Adams
May 1, 2022 6:01 pm

Dear Abigail, I would love to have a pint or two with you one day. There is a lot we should talk about. Cheers, SL

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Svarga Loka
May 1, 2022 7:09 pm

Fine by me. We could talk all through the night.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Svarga Loka
May 1, 2022 7:53 pm

Y’all are funny. Isn’t it quite blue in those parts? I have a particular aversion to all things blueish…

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Abigail Adams
May 1, 2022 10:02 pm

Around here they do it either two days before or the day before rain is expected. Typically starts in the early morning. Have never been anywhere in the US that hasn’t had them to some degree since I was made aware of them.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Glock-N-Load
May 2, 2022 7:25 am

Geoengineering Affects You, Your Environment, and Your Loved Ones

Please check the site out. Educate Yourself.

Captain_Obviuos
Captain_Obviuos
  Jack Van Snoot
May 1, 2022 2:06 pm

Jack, I have a .pdf I am looking at right this moment from November 7, 1966, entitled “A Recommended National Program In Weather Modification; A Report to the Interdepartmental Committee for Atmospheric Sciences” by Homer E. Newell, Associate Administrator for Space Science and Application, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Washington, D.C.

Here is a quote from the second paragraph of the introduction:

Over the past twenty years (this article was written in 1966 remember) experiments have been conducted on weather modification, particularly on the effects of seeding clouds with such materials as silver iodide crystals. The results are limited. Under suitable circumstances it has been possible to augment precipitation by ten to twenty percent, and to reduce the frequency of fire-producing lightning strokes. Effects on hail production have been noted, sometimes suppression and sometimes augmentation. These results probably would be of only passing interest were it not for the potential importance to mankind of further progress in this field. Perhaps the most significant result of the experiments to date has been to bring about a change in attitude from one of skepticism to one of cautious optimism.

So, since at least 1946 NASA and other government agencies have been modifying our weather. Given 75-plus years of technology now, there should be no doubts they have systems like HAARP and others like spraying chemicals to get their desired results. However, no matter how many toys they have they will still never be able to completely control the weather, because that is not Man’s to control.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Captain_Obviuos
May 1, 2022 10:05 pm

Cloud seeding isn’t the same. The speculation is that these are about reflecting thermal energy back into space to cool the planet rather than getting it to rain more. And I think HAARP is more about weaponizing the weather, specifically by interceding in the jet stream as it comes into N. America over Alaska.

mark
mark
  Jack Van Snoot
May 1, 2022 2:30 pm

Spend some time here Snooty…

Geoengineering Affects You, Your Environment, and Your Loved Ones

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Climate Engineering Real Cause of Coming Food Shortage – Dane Wigington

Retief
Retief
  Administrator
May 1, 2022 6:02 pm

Oh, so where is the “believe in this test to join TBP”? I thought this was a free speech site, where you can say what you want and believe what you wish. If not, please tell us what we are supposed to believe in to join TBP? All the various theories on here about just about anything are great to read, you cannot learn if you don’t hear from all sides of a story. Or are you trying to take Twitter’s spot?

Red River D
Red River D
  Retief
May 1, 2022 6:47 pm

So, free speech for everyone but the sole proprietor.

Got it.

Asshammer.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Administrator
May 1, 2022 8:00 pm

excellent source

Peter Horry
Peter Horry
  Jack Van Snoot
May 1, 2022 3:56 pm

What none of these “chemtrailers” can ever explain to me is WHO (besides, muh, government) is actually, PHYSICALLY, doing the chemtrails. I spent 27 years working radar in the busiest ATC Center in the world (hint- ZTL). IF the “chemtrails” are real, exactly WHICH aircraft are making them? Airliners? Bizjets? A ghost fleet of Deep State invisible jets flown by Wonder Women?

There are civilian aircraft literally everywhere all over Dixie, criss-crossing routes, various altitudes etc. There are no “unknown” aircraft flying between 18,000 feet and 60,000 feet over the CONUS on a routine, daily basis. I cannot understand whether the chemtrail crowd believes that the 100,000-plus unionized civilian workers at United, Delta, etc, plus all of the controllers, plus all of the airline contractors, plus all of the military peeps etc are “in on it” or what.

In 2022, civilian jet aircraft are routinely flying at altitudes that are thousands of feet higher than the jetliners flew “back in the day”, say the 1970’s, ’80’s and ’90’s. They are using highly efficient jet engine technology that burns less fuel and more importantly is super quiet (compared to say 1980). Comparing a DC-8 0r a B-52 engine noise signature to a 21st century aircraft like a 787 on arrival descent or departure climbout is noticable to any ear. As is the exhaust signature.

Not only are aircraft flying much much higher with far more efficient engine technology than say even 1990, there are literally thousands more aircraft in the sky than there were “back in the day”.

I wish someone, anyone, who believes that chemtrails are a “thing” could explain to me exactly what aircraft are doing the “spraying”, and how the fuck are they not colliding with all of the thousands of civil airliners every week?

Or, if you think that 100,000-plus unionized airline employees with axes to grind against their employers are “in on it” and can keep their mouths shut, you may be a fucking moron. Just because you can see “it” with your own eyes standing on terra firma doesnt mean you have a fucking clue what is actually happening 41,000 feet above you and miles away…

BL
BL
  Peter Horry
May 1, 2022 4:12 pm

Pete- Look at the video Mark put on this thread. These lines/grids are in the sky, do you deny they exist when we all watch them appear over and over and over week after week, year after year. Are we all suffering from a psychotic delusion? You tell me who is doing this if not .Gov?

Would you have ever believed that your own government would push poison vaxxes to off your fellow Americans?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BL
May 2, 2022 8:31 am

I deny no such thing. I can see exactly what you are seeing. I think I am seeing simple physics in action. I may be wrong. That’s why I engage in conversations like this on TBP. My delivery style apparently sucks.

And to your last question- Nope. I wouldn’t have ever believed it until it happened. And it did.

Peter Horry

Captain_Obviuos
Captain_Obviuos
  Peter Horry
May 1, 2022 4:59 pm

Peter, the reason the flights are not known is because they spray at altitudes below the deck, between 10-13,000 ft. They have to, or else whatever they are spraying would disperse too quickly, at high altitudes. Think crop dusters. These jets — and yes, they are jets — are definitely small and swift enough to cover a lot of sky; I have no idea if they are military, but given the fact NASA and other unnamed agencies are involved I would call that a safe bet.

Using your ATC experience as a background, I am sure you saw thousands of jetliners, and are familiar with the scant vapor trails they leave behind; now look at a chemtrail and tell me that’s a jet vapor trail. I spent time on an aircraft carrier, so I am not ignorant of what a jet trail looks like, and there is just no way, chemically, that jet fuel can or would leave a thick, opaque line behind it (unless it had engine problems), especially, you’re right, at 30,000 ft. I also know, from my time on an aircraft carrier, that ATC’s were like CTI’s and RM’s, those who did not have a Top or Eyes Only Clearance never rubbed elbows with them; but even so, there were limits for them as well, mainly that they only knew as much as they were supposed to know, just like everybody else.

I used to be a non-believer in chemtrails too, but just doing some basic research showed me that it is a real program, which may have been started with the best of intentions, but over the years been perverted into something dreadful (sort of like our .gov). If you can tell me what possible use spraying aluminium oxide particles over wide swaths of our skies is, I would appreciate it. What is the purpose?

(Because I’m pretty sure that if I was to go and take a breath of aluminium oxide right now, if I lived through it, once I was done coughing up blood, I would say that was a bad idea.)

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Captain_Obviuos
May 1, 2022 10:10 pm

The planes that spray them over my area are way higher than 13,000 feet. The plane at the front of the typically 4 exhaust trails is only about 1/4 inch long from my perspective. Maybe slightly longer.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Captain_Obviuos
May 1, 2022 10:42 pm

“Peter, the reason the flights are not known is because they spray at altitudes below the deck, between 10-13,000 ft. ”

Bullshit. The planes making the persistent contrails and/or chemtrails are clearly at the same altitude as the other big jets. 10k is a dude farting around around with 4 or 6 cylinders. In fact, I bet if anyone knows what they are looking at, even the low jets they see will almost never have any visible trail.

Peter Horry
Peter Horry
  Captain_Obviuos
May 2, 2022 8:17 am

I wouldn’t say I’m a non-believer. I’d say I’m a sceptic based on my personal experience. I come to TBP every day and discover things that I thought I “knew” might just be bullshit. My POV on chemtrails could be VERY incorrect. I’m not a scientist, and I do have an open mind. And I DO agree that the technology and the idea for some sort of program seems to exist.

But I have personally seen foreign aircraft flying over my farm here in Carolina up at 41,000 feet heading to Europe streaming extremely long trails that hang in the rarified air for long period of time behind them, just like all of the US aircraft flying the same profile on any given day. (But not EVERY day, which to me points to simple physics rather than some big secret squirrel program to kill us all)

I use an app called flight radar on my phone. You just point the phone at the plane and you can see his entire flight profile. Yesterday I could clearly see a British Airways B787’s at FL410. In trail behind him were two freighters registered in Germany, one big parade of “chemtrails”. I cannot imagine that IF this was really a conspiracy thing rather than a physics thing, the Brits and the Krauts are in on it…

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Peter Horry
May 1, 2022 6:00 pm

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Meg
Meg
  hardscrabble farmer
May 1, 2022 6:41 pm

+1000

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Peter Horry
May 1, 2022 6:06 pm

Peekay (before he tore apart the moulage of the Boston marathon) in Australia matched the chemtrails he observed over Melbourne in real time to Qantas flights using online flight tracker websites. I suspect it is a mix of medium altitude spraying using commercial passenger planes unbeknownst to the pilots and higher altitude spraying using drones.

mark
mark
  Peter Horry
May 1, 2022 8:59 pm

Peter, Peter, Peter who thinks he is a Tin Foil Hat eater… I have spent uncounted visits over years on the first link I put up and still haven’t plumbed the depths of it’s massive, indisputable, detailed, and undeniable evidence…the man behind it is a fearless hero…you sir are a fool as all your questions are answered in it…if you spent any real time on it.

There is no way in the time it was posted and in your counter you did any real research…you just shot off what you have long made your mind up about.

We have long been poisoned by these people below in this Organization Chart through our water, food, air, through their pharmakia, endless wars, serf/slave fiat, etc. etc. etc. Most of the human herd are just too stupid to just LOOK UP and spend some real time reading/listening to real research handed to them on a silver platter.

Here Peter…10 minutes of musical truth: LOOK UP!

Here who is behind it Peter…if you don’t know why…do more reading here and less blind denial.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
May 2, 2022 7:31 am

Excellent. Thank You.

You can lead a horse to water…

Peter Horry
Peter Horry
  mark
May 2, 2022 8:24 am

Thanks for sharing that, mark. I may be clueless but I’m not blind and I’m not in denial. I’m just skeptical as hell about this particular topic.

Wouldn’t all of the thousands of people working at various levels of the grand conspiracy in effect be poisoning both themselves and their own children by indiscriminately spraying chemtrails all over the world?

Justice And Golems
Justice And Golems
  Peter Horry
May 2, 2022 2:09 pm

I wish someone, anyone, who believes that chemtrails are a “thing” could explain to me exactly what aircraft are doing the “spraying”, and how the fuck are they not colliding with all of the thousands of civil airliners every week?

First, despite my intense distaste for Don Rumsfeld, I think his quote about knowns/unknowns is extremely insightful.

Remember Peter: You (and I) personally, have more Uknown Uknowns than Known Knowns or Known Unknowns. Essentially, there is a million times more that you DON’T KNOW than what you do know.

With that in mind, here are answers to your questions that have a high probability of being in the ballpark:

The planes are owned by Alphabet Agencies – take your pick: CIA, NSA, NASA, DOD, etc…

They aren’t colliding with anything because they are above the pay grade of you or me or almost anyone. They do not have to run planes in accordance with “law”. You, as an ATC or almost anyone else, don’t know they are there, but they certainly know where every other plane is and are operating equipment that you are unaware of.

The, “too many people will know” argument is complete GARBAGE. There is this thing, called COMPARTMENTALIZATION to DESTROY the argument and potential of, “too many people will know to keep a secret”.

What they are doing, most likely, is creating shields to protect against Scalar Interferometers – The Tesla Weapon/Cannon mentioned by Brezhnev at the ’75 SALT talks where he mentioned limiting weapons that were, “more frightening than the mind of man had imagined”. In 1975, he wasn’t referring to NBC’s.

I know, it sounds like “conspiracy theory”….

Here is what form Defense Secretary William Cohen said in 1997:

“…Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves…So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It’s real, and that’s the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that’s why this is so important.”

The “elecromagnetic waves” he mentions are created by a Scalar Interferometer

Here is a CIA doc from 2003 talking about it (and mentioning a “Tesla Fireball”):

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00788r001900680014-4

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jack Van Snoot
May 1, 2022 5:11 pm

“But you can believe whatever you want.”

😂 So can you. And don’t forget to vote. Harder.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Jack Van Snoot
May 1, 2022 5:50 pm

The folks who post here know the other folks who post here, it’s sort of a small club. When someone shows up with a name like yours, it stands out.

So does the comment.

Ghost
Ghost
  hardscrabble farmer
May 2, 2022 2:38 pm

Are you talking to Peter Horry or Justice and Golems?

Because both are strong contenders for the comment thing.

J&G
J&G
  Ghost
May 2, 2022 10:25 pm

I have been posting here for years.

The name is from EC – on the first day I posted under Just A Guy. It’s J.And G. something ever since.

HSF knows who I am and what I grow.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Jack Van Snoot
May 1, 2022 5:58 pm

High bypass turbofan engines do not create condensation trails.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jack Van Snoot
May 2, 2022 7:21 am

The less you know, the more ‘sure’ of yourself you are. Up to the point of cognitive Dissonance. Not a slam, just an observation.

Peter Horry
Peter Horry
  Anonymous
May 2, 2022 8:19 am

Indeed. And that’s a concept that applies to BOTH sides of this discussion.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 1, 2022 2:08 pm

It’s unknown, and unrecognized by any so called “environmentalist” other than as a ‘conspiracy theory’.
Willful blindness and inborn stupidity, are the only ways for someone claiming to be concerned with “climate change” to be totally uninterested in a readily observable phenomenon that increases albedo over large swaths on a daily basis.
Likewise for “environmentalists” to ignore massive exhaust trails pretty much everywhere, all the time.
Environmentalism and climate change curricula are very, very light on actual hard science and are mostly geared toward learning how to lie with manipulated statistics. They’re purely in the business of “credentialing” adherents so that they can gain employment as part of one of the biggest rackets on earth.
(I have a bachelor’s and a master’s credentials in these very things; this is how I know. However, I could not in good conscience perpetuate the racket, so the credentials are now mostly useless.)

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 1, 2022 2:33 pm

I wonder if these flights are trackable on the flight track site? , there are several. I see them and mention to others who will not acknowledge them at all…they laugh it off. The key is to track these flights and log their tail numbers. I think it is merely a matter of adding the chemicals into the exhaust stream.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 1, 2022 2:38 pm

They do all the sinister things, because they can and no one is going to stop them. They don’t care if everyone knows what they’re doing.

clbrto
clbrto
May 1, 2022 2:57 pm

there used to be this website “chemtrails are demons”

said if you looked at them and prayed in a certain way, the trail would stop

it worked for me, at least a few times

I just tried to find the site again, but no luck – use the name Jesus Christ and banish demon in your prayer

I may sound insane, but occultism in the ruling class is not a conspiracy

Meg
Meg
  clbrto
May 1, 2022 6:44 pm

I have successfully fought off / shut down in real time attacks in Jesus’ name. Faith is key.

Ken31
Ken31
  Meg
May 1, 2022 8:44 pm

Can confirm.

Marky
Marky
  clbrto
May 1, 2022 10:33 pm

Every day dam near in Kansas City area I look up and see those bastards blocking the sun light. Makes me very angry. And everytime I look up and see those bastards I pray to God in the name of Jesus Christ Christ stop those bastards in whatever way you see fit. Fall out of the sky, pilot heart attack, patriot missile or to open the eyes of the pilots. Change their hearts expose and convict these evil doers and their masters. So far my prayers have gone unanswered. I trust God will deal with those bastards on his time line not mine.

Ginger
Ginger
  clbrto
May 2, 2022 7:19 am

I remember that site.

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
May 1, 2022 3:54 pm

They first became very obvious to me in the Louisville, KY area about 2005 or so. All the classic signs, the sky sometimes looked like a giant tick tack toe grid and then the milky haze. Now north of Atlanta and very similar. Very easy to tell the difference between normal contrails (which we see sometimes) and the chemtrails. I’m old enough to remember the sky in the 1960s on up and never noticed the chemtrail type trails until the 2000s as I noted above.

IMO, for weather manipulation and one more addition to the slow poisons assault we have all been under for over 100 years. Just add up all the crap in most “food” these days, the changes to the “medical” system, the conditioning most have fully taken up, etc etc. All part of the plan to make us unhealthy, dependent and kill lots (most?) of us off while extracting what ever value they can out of us (useless eaters we are, remember?)

With all of this, it is still not going to be fully enough as some of us are still alive, kicking and not complying during the events at the end of days, which seem more and more likely to be the times we are in or rapidly approaching.

Russ
Russ
May 1, 2022 4:28 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMQhT6Yi5eI

John Brennan / ex CIA Director speaks about Geoengineering to fight ‘Climate Change’….right

BL
BL
  Russ
May 1, 2022 5:15 pm

After gagging over his comments at the end, I find it in interesting that Brennan thinks that 10 BILLION dollar yearly cost is “inexpensive”. Compared to defense spending, it is down right cheap.

Sure hope Peter Horry watches this admission by the CIA that they are actually spraying us.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Russ
May 1, 2022 7:14 pm

This video is the best evidence that the purpose of this is NOT fighting climate change. Thanks for posting it.

And, by the way, what a magnificent achievement of speechwriting: “we do what we can to keep this country’s security secure.”/s

I am sure that they also keep the population’s health healthy.

ATarese
ATarese
May 1, 2022 5:01 pm

Just like the fake contagion, one factor that any suggestion has to account for is that the perps can’t unleash anything so uncontainable worldwide that would be deadly to themselves or too destructive to their own future.

So with that in mind, what sinister possibilities remain? I still haven’t heard a plausible one despite being fully aware of the ongoing sky whitewashing in even vast unpopulated areas too for decades now.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ATarese
May 1, 2022 8:07 pm

Well, i’m., glad you have convinced yourself. Just another benign anomaly then.

Clearly, it’s all for the greater good. Another booster will surely help.

ATarese
ATarese
  Anonymous
May 2, 2022 12:51 am

Your ego rushed to dismiss and feel superior without really reading carefully.

What did you think the phrase ‘fully aware’ meant? I literally stated I was fully aware of their existence for decades. I was asking for deeper thinking. My main point was asking for possibilities that haven’t been considered yet because the ones being proposed just don’t provide satisfactory answers, and that the satisfactory/real answer can’t include perpetrator demise or unlivable damage in their future either. What else could their existence be for? I think it hasn’t been proposed yet.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
May 1, 2022 5:34 pm

I am curious to read how many here will deny it.

I think it has to be more than to counteract “global warming” (if that is even a thing), given the scope and global distribution, cost, immense effort etc. It could be a sophisticated psycho-modulation scheme to keep us all docile. Or it could be to keep us sickly by reducing sun exposure without telling us that we need 5000-10000 IE of Vitamin D to counteract what they have just done.

By my observation, it is the same in the US as it is in Germany.

I do know that it was much less when Covid first started, but I have not been able to understand why that might have been.

I also know for a fact that this was not happening in the 70s and 80s. I spent most of my youth outdoors, keenly observing clouds and weather patterns, and I would have surely noticed it.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Svarga Loka
May 1, 2022 5:42 pm

I don’t feel docile nor sickly. Do you? I don’t think you do.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Abigail Adams
May 1, 2022 7:18 pm

My tin foil hat protects me.

Maybe my IQ could have been 30 points higher if it wasn’t for their poison? Who knows.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Svarga Loka
May 1, 2022 7:20 pm

😂😂 THAT was funny!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Svarga Loka
May 2, 2022 7:58 am

Your IQ was mostly determined by your parents, their parents, etc. The luck of your birth circumstances largely determined what your station in life is today. EZPZ to go down, infinitely harder to ‘rise’ appreciably.

Everyone is imbued with some range of God given talents, pray to develop yours.

The only alternative? Deny/Drive away the Holy Spirit. The ONLY unpardonable Sin.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Svarga Loka
May 2, 2022 7:43 am

For the greater good, ESPECIALLY if it saves just one child. Look at all the beaming smiles from the industrial toxic waste byproduct, Fluoride, in the water. Rat poison. Documented ‘Docility’ effect.

Thanks to the munificence of algore, you can look it up yourself.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
May 1, 2022 5:54 pm

What the heck do you mean “up in the Climate Change”? Is Climate Change like a corporation with a hierarchy? Or a political party.

As I am sure you know, “activists” are often the most inactive and ignorant about the topic at hand.

Like vaccine activists who legitimately know nothing about side effects.

Speaking of which, rumor has it that hospital CEOs and other higher up administrators and physicians in leadership roles (chairmen etc.) who did not want the vaccines were given fake vaccine records so they would not have to be fired, given that they cannot easily and quickly replaced. We shall see who will come forward. Not holding my breath.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
May 1, 2022 5:55 pm

To answer the question of ‘Why are they doing this’?

Because … they … can … 

Red River D
Red River D
  Anthony Aaron
May 1, 2022 6:54 pm

That’s exactly what O’Brien said to Winston in 1984.

Wait till these fuckers find out who really owns this universe.

Warms my heart, so it does, just thinking about it!!!

SeeBee
SeeBee
May 1, 2022 7:50 pm

I could tell you. But, then you’d probably want to suicide yourself.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 1, 2022 9:32 pm

I live in fuck nowhere up north, and you see them literally do laps. At night when its pitch black, you can see little speckles flutter down like tiny bits of confetti after intense spray days. I have lived in 5 locals in last 15 years and they spray everywhere.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 1, 2022 10:58 pm

I would like to point out two simpler possibilities.

One is that they are just regular contrails, (that have existed even before jets, before ‘geoengineering,’ but probably not before ‘cloud seeding’) that show up in certain atmospheric conditions that are easy to determine.

The other is that they are ‘spraying’ on a constant basis, but you only see them when certain atmospheric conditions exist. That would certainly make it simpler because in that case it could just be an industry-wide fuel additive or the like, no ON/OFF, no programs that determine where and when to spray, no dedicated ‘sprayplanes’.

I think the first is probably true for many other reasons, but I would find the second more plausible than conventional chemtrail theories. It would also be scarier in some ways, but wouldn’t assume superpowers like HAARP.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 2, 2022 8:29 am

“…because in that case it could just be an industry-wide fuel additive or the like, no ON/OFF, no programs that determine where and when to spray, no dedicated ‘sprayplanes’.”

Very plausible for most ‘Additives’. The rest of your espousals? (NOUN
an act of adopting or supporting a cause, belief, or way of life:)

Only You can decide NOT to read/research what many, many people have freely given across the Web.

John Connor II
John Connor II
May 2, 2022 7:05 am

Here we go again with the chemtrail bs..
You have ZERO proof of them.
As I’ve said for years, all it takes is a few air quality samples and some lab tests to put this GLP style nonsense to bed permanently yet NO-ONE has ever done that. I don’t wonder why.
Learn about contrails AND ballast based aircraft test procedures and oh look!
The explanation…
Now off to debunk the flat Earthers again..and again..

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  John Connor II
May 2, 2022 7:41 am

Night At The Museum Film GIF by 20th Century Studios - Find & Share on GIPHY

I’m waiting.

SeeBee
SeeBee
  hardscrabble farmer
May 2, 2022 8:26 am

Tickles me every time.

Rain man
Rain man
May 2, 2022 2:49 pm

Did you know Monsanto has figured out how to grow crops when aluminum oxide is present in the soil and nothing else will grow? Do you know how much hotter forests burn with a fine coating of aluminum oxide covering everything?