Riddle me this

Why are you a Christian, if your savior a Jew?

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Author: Glock-N-Load

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Anonymous
Anonymous
May 21, 2022 6:47 am

First one has to figure out what a ‘Jew’ actually is; when the word first actually appeared and to whom it applies.

Ken31
Ken31
  Anonymous
May 21, 2022 7:21 am

But that would defeat this jewish propaganda. In the NT a Jew is from Judea and Jesus was not a Jew. Neither are modern day heathens who call themselves jews.

jack
jack
  Ken31
May 21, 2022 8:48 am

Can you tell me what Jesus was? You are aware of something I’m not or have information I have not yet seen

Marky
Marky
  jack
May 21, 2022 11:41 am

Jesus was a Nazarene, if ya wanna get specific on ethnic origins. Obviously a Hebrew from the lineage of David tribe of Judah. He IS the son of God. Thats the biblical record.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  jack
May 21, 2022 12:06 pm

Judea and Galilee were two separate states and political entities, as illustrated on the map of Palestine in the time of our Saviour in your Bible. Jesus Himself was not a Jew (Judean) or resident of Judea,

He was a Galilean or resident of Galilee (Matthew 26:69; John 7:41), and a Judahite or descendent of the Tribe of Judah. The Judeans of prominence were not of the Tribe of Judah, but of Edomites. Pilate was being ironic when he wrote the sign “Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Judeans” for the Cross (John 19:19). That is, “the Galilean who was King of the Judeans,” as in “Queen Victoria of England, Empress of India.”

Jesus grew up in Nazareth in Galilee. His disciples were fishermen from the Sea of Galilee. And although He visited Jerusalem, he spent most of His life in his home country of Galilee. John 7:1, “After this Jesus stayed in Galilee; for He could not walk in Judea, because the Jews sought to kill him.” His followers were constrained “for fear of the Jews” (John 7:13, 19:38, 20:19).

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Fleabaggs
May 21, 2022 12:13 pm

Flea,

That is the most informative answer I have ever received to this question. Thank you for taking the time.

The Cold Hard Truth
The Cold Hard Truth
  Glock-N-Load
May 21, 2022 6:14 pm

Jesus descended through the tribe of Judah. He was a Torah observant high priest Jew. Anyone claiming otherwise is Bible illiterate or worse.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ken31
May 21, 2022 10:08 am

Luke 3:23 – 38
Rev 5:5

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ken31
May 21, 2022 10:17 am

hymeis proskyneite ho ouk oidate hēmeis proskynoumen ho oidamen hoti hē sōtēria ek tōn Ioudaiōn estin

The Cold Hard Truth
The Cold Hard Truth
  Ken31
May 21, 2022 10:46 am

They called him Rabbi, dumbfuck.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  The Cold Hard Truth
May 21, 2022 12:44 pm

Your statement is what’s dumb.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  The Cold Hard Truth
May 21, 2022 2:47 pm

“Rabbi” in Aramaic, the language of the area means “revered” or “great”.

The Cold Hard Truth
The Cold Hard Truth
  Colorado Artist
May 21, 2022 6:26 pm

Rabbi in hebrew means teacher of the torah stupid.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  The Cold Hard Truth
May 21, 2022 7:56 pm

No it doesn’t stupid. Are you Stephanie in shallow cover? As opposed to deep cover for your benefit.

Jesus the Rabbi

The term rabbi in the time of Jesus did not necessarily refer to a specific office or occupation. That would be true only after the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed (70 AD). Rather, it was a word meaning “great one” or “my master” which was applied to many kinds of people in everyday speech. It clearly was used as a term of respect for one’s teacher as well even though the formal position of rabbi would come later. In one sense then, calling Jesus “Rabbi” is an anachronism. In another sense the use of this term for him by the people his day is a measure of their great respect for him as a person and as a teacher and not just a reference to the activity of teaching he was engaged in.

Many people referred to Jesus as Rabbi. His disciples (Luke 7:40), lawyers (Matt. 22:35-36), ordinary people (Luke 12:13), the rich (Matt. 19:16), Pharisees (Luke 19:39), and Sadducees (Luke 20:27-28).

https://www.thattheworldmayknow.com/rabbi-and-talmidim

Stucky
Stucky
  Colorado Artist
May 21, 2022 7:50 pm

Joo child: “Mamma, what is the meaning of Torah?”

Joo parent: “I don’t know Moishe. Lets ask the rabbit.”

Yes, rabbit. But the Joos don’t have the letter “t”. Anybody who tells you otherwise is a damned liar.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 21, 2022 7:25 am

There are some interesting people who characterize Christianity as controlled opposition for Jewish Supremacy. Europeans could probably use their own religion.

jewnonymous
jewnonymous
  Anonymous
May 21, 2022 10:50 am

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Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
May 21, 2022 7:35 am

What does one’s ethnicity have to do with one’s idealogy?

m
m

…or one’s theology.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  m
May 21, 2022 11:58 am

They should be related. Different races think and feel and experience religion differently.

Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
  Anonymous
May 21, 2022 2:06 pm

So an atheist from China can’t become a Christian?
An Arab muslim can’t convert to kabbalism?
A Buddist who develops an apathetic agnostic attitude?
Why should they be related?

Anonymous
Anonymous

If you’ve ever known asian christians, they are very different. Just like sub-saharan africans become very different types of christians. And arab converting to kabbalistic shit is not much of a difference. Buddhists are basically the religion of apathy already.

Because races are different.

Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
  m
May 21, 2022 2:00 pm

same thing for this

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yes, a couple people get it.
Ethnicity relates to heredity, so of course, Jesus WAS a Jew in that respect.

From the perspective of those in power, Jesus was an ideological heretic who didn’t share the moral, religious, and political values of his rivals, the Pharisees and Sadducees. For this He was killed and betrayed by one of His own, a known zealot.

“All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.”
~John 6:37~

Notice the word “all”. There is no discrimination with the Gospel when it comes to ethnicity.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Anonymous
May 21, 2022 12:15 pm

This seems to be another great answer.

Jesus was the son of Jews?

motley
motley
May 21, 2022 8:39 am

Old Testament ….. New Testament. Next question.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
May 21, 2022 8:52 am

6 non answers so far.

Hmm, Jesus was not a Jew?

Jew is a nationality/race not a religion?

What is the Jewish religion called?

I dont claim to know the answer to the question and I’ve never heard it answered either.

Boogiman
Boogiman
  Glock-N-Load
May 21, 2022 8:59 am

It’s a rough translation “Jewish” is yehudi descendants of the tribe of Judah

jack
jack
  Boogiman
May 21, 2022 9:04 am

jack
jack
  Glock-N-Load
May 21, 2022 9:10 am

A – Hebrew
The word Jew only appears in the entire bible a couple times in the NT. It’s used in the derogatory.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  jack
May 21, 2022 10:10 am

John 4:22

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Glock-N-Load
May 21, 2022 10:55 am

I would suggest you didn’t want to hear or read it answered. Myself and others have posted videos and print dozens of times right here explaining that Jesus was not a Jew and why.

Here are two such items.
The text version covers every angle in simple language. The video is only 5 minutes for the attention span challenged.

Jesus Was Not A Jew

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Fleabaggs
May 21, 2022 11:15 am

And another one.

Jesus was a ‘Judean’, not a Jew.

During His lifetime, no persons were described as “Jews” anywhere. That fact is supported by theology, history and science. When Jesus was in Judea, it was not the “homeland” of the ancestors of those who today style themselves “Jews”. Their ancestors never set a foot in Judea. They existed at that time in Asia, their “homeland”, and were known as Khazars. In none of the manuscripts of the original Old or New Testament was Jesus described or referred to as a “Jew”. The term originated in the late eighteenth century as an abbreviation of the term Judean and refers to a resident of Judea without regard to race or religion, just as the term “Texan” signifies a person living in Texas.

In spite of the powerful propaganda effort of the so-called “Jews”, they have been unable to prove in recorded history that there is one record, prior to that period, of a race religion or nationality, referred to as “Jew”. The religious sect in Judea, in the time of Jesus, to which self-styled “Jews” today refer to as “Jews”, were known as “Pharisees”. “Judaism” today and “Pharisaism” in the time of Jesus are the same.

Jesus abhorred and denounced “Pharisaism”; hence the words, “Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites, Ye Serpents, Ye Generation of Vipers”.

Many denominational Christians and even church leaders are under the mistaken belief that Jesus was a Jew. But nothing could be further from the truth.

Judea and Galilee were two separate states and political entities, as illustrated on the map of Palestine in the time of our Saviour in your Bible. Jesus Himself was not a Jew (Judean) or resident of Judea, He was a Galilean or resident of Galilee (Matthew 26:69; John 7:41), and a Judahite or descendent of the Tribe of Judah. The Judeans of prominence were not of the Tribe of Judah, but of Edomites. Pilate was being ironic when he wrote the sign “Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Judeans” for the Cross (John 19:19). That is, “the Galilean who was King of the Judeans,” as in “Queen Victoria of England, Empress of India.” Jesus grew up in Nazareth in Galilee. His disciples were fishermen from the Sea of Galilee. And although He visited Jerusalem, he spent most of His life in his home country of Galilee. John 7:1, “After this Jesus stayed in Galilee; for He could not walk in Judea, because the Jews sought to kill him.” His followers were constrained “for fear of the Jews” (John 7:13, 19:38, 20:19).

Why was this?

https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/08/jesus-christ-was-not-a-jew-why-many-christians-believe-the-contrary-2448808.html

BL
BL
  Fleabaggs
May 21, 2022 11:27 am

Sorry Flea, didn’t see your post before I posted.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Fleabaggs
May 21, 2022 12:02 pm

This link got lost in the above comment.

Jesus Was Not A Jew

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Glock-N-Load
May 21, 2022 11:48 am

What is the Jewish religion called? Judaism

Boogieman
Boogieman
May 21, 2022 9:15 am

The word Jew is used in the crucifixion of Christ nowhere else I’m aware of. the Plaque above is head was said to read “The King of the Jews”

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Boogieman
May 21, 2022 9:53 am

I.N.R.I – No “j” in Latin. Translated, Jesus of Nazareth, Rex(king) Judea.

Boogieman
Boogieman
  MrLiberty
May 21, 2022 10:50 am

I stand corrected. ^ That sounds right.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Boogieman
May 21, 2022 10:16 am

John 4:22

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 21, 2022 2:15 pm

The Jew haters here will walk ten miles to avoid actually reading any scripture that might question their Jew-hate.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 21, 2022 3:14 pm

only if they are christians

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Boogieman
May 21, 2022 11:40 am

The “King of the Jews” is an Anglicized definition of abbreviated Roman Latin.

i forget
i forget
May 21, 2022 10:59 am

Nothing is saved. Nothing is lost. But among those who need saviors lostness is saved. And among those who need to be saviors lostness is saved. It’s all an ocd type makework.

Blanche DuBois, mentioned here recently, always relied upon the kindness of strange saviors. RP McMurphy relied upon the strangeness of self-sacrificial martyring kindness in pursuit of saviordom.

“Who am I…who do I think I am…little ol insignificant me,” that I can afford not to join forces with some saving we/us, so that we may all go forth together for to save Private Ryan (from his own savioring), thereby adding to the lore of the savior, & the lucre of Steven Spielberg?

The best part of waking up may be that ya don’t need a barista to start, let alone save, the day:

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  i forget
May 21, 2022 11:49 am

… and beer, wine, and cider, too.

Brewing was once seen as a woman’s art. Holistic herbal medicine as practiced by women during some periods of European history was associated with witchcraft, something that persists to this day. Even now, brewing is considered by THE IGNANT as some form of illegal arcane art.

If you don’t buy beer off the shelf, THE IGNANT who watches the brewing process might mistake you for cooking meth.
Seriously.

BL
BL
May 21, 2022 11:24 am

The word jew did not exist back in Jesus’ time. The word Judean existed to denote someone from Judea.

Jew is a mostly a modern term. Since everybody and their brother from WHITE eastern Europe can call themselves jew, I guess it doesn’t really have anything to do with Judeans.

KaD
KaD
May 21, 2022 12:04 pm

Why did the jews kill Jesus? Because he was trying to make them better people, not just worshippers of money.

BL
BL
  KaD
May 21, 2022 12:11 pm

Some things never change KaD.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  KaD
May 21, 2022 12:27 pm

He was a rabblerouser and threatened TPTB of the day with losing their credibility and tithing income, something that was the very foundation of their power. Turning over the moneychangers tables within the confines of the Temple was a very brazen challenge to the Temple elites who took the wages of the commoners.
Jesus offered an alternative spiritual wealth that couldn’t be paid for with donations, so the TPTB of His day conspired to have Him eliminated.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 21, 2022 12:28 pm

That is one of the reasons I am not a christian. It is an inversion of our natural values. It was sold to us as a lie (Jesus as a warrior king). What did white men need with ‘salvation?’ It’s based on a mythical figure and bunch of jewish texts.

You can always tell a confused christian because they have to double-think everything like a Q-tard explaining chess. jews were hebrews, iudaeans, we wuz the real hebrews, khazar theory, lost tribes, etc. Face it, if you aren’t from the Levant or speak a Semitic language, none of it has anything to do with you. Your lands didn’t flood. Most of the bible is a list of jewish pedigrees and rules, or things that are anti-white.

You can read Indo-European stories and myths and learn models of how to behave or how not to behave. If you read the OT you will learn is how to take over countries with usury and how to ingratiate yourself with rulers by pimping your women, and in the NT how to be a good meek little sheep and the brotherhood of man.

Stucky
Stucky
May 21, 2022 12:31 pm

Glock-N-Load,

Q1) — Why are you interested in whether or not Jesus was a Jew? Mere intellectual curiosity? Are you on a spiritual quest? Something else?

Q2) — How will the answer affect your life and/or beliefs?

Stucky
Stucky
  Stucky
May 21, 2022 12:44 pm

Was Jesus a Jew? Can’t you find the answer on your own? It’s not hard to do. Here’s how I would tackle it.

Step 1: First and foremost I would first seek to fully understand “what does it mean to be a Jew?”. What is the essence of Jewishness, the core beliefs?

Step 2: Compare the above to the actual life of Jesus as portrayed in the Gospels.

Step 3: DO the analysis. Did Jesus comply 100% with the essence of Judaism? 50% Not at all?

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Step 4 Optional: Present your findings on TBP. Be prepared to be called a fucking moran heretic for believing the shit you wrote and for not rightly dividing the word.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
May 21, 2022 1:16 pm

Stucky- I looked all that info up and I have the definitive answer. Jesus was not in “The Club”.

Did you read my post in the “Towards Theory” thread?

(BL) here.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
May 21, 2022 1:29 pm

Matthew 15:21-28
Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you

GNL
GNL
  Stucky
May 21, 2022 4:18 pm

Stucky,

Geeze, what if everyone said, “Can’t you find the answer on your own?” to every QOTD?

My goal is to expose the fact that so much of the Bible is interpretative dependent. How can there be so much mystery to faith? Is the Bible REALLY helpful if so many can’t figure out the truth of so many things? I’ve been told, “you have to be a student of the Bible to understand”. I don’t think religion is that, or is meant to be that, difficult to understand. It causes to much bickering, many messages get lost?

Stucky
Stucky
  GNL
May 21, 2022 7:35 pm

“Geeze, what if everyone said, “Can’t you find the answer on your own?” to every QOTD?”

Good point. I intended no disrespect.

My suggestion to find out the answer on your own should be viewed in context with my other question —-> “How will the answer affect your life and/or beliefs?”

Most QOTD are silly, or just for fun, or whatever ….. but very few of the answers to the questions can actually affect one’s life.

Big huge difference between “who is your favorite comedian” and “was Jesus a Jew”.

Really big important questions are, imho, best answered by the seeker.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Stucky
May 21, 2022 7:49 pm

Stuck,

I know you didn’t. I forgot to add the smiley face 🙃.

Yes, you’re right, the answers to this question certainly could have an affect on one’s life.

I’ve asked others who “know everything” about Christianity but even they have a hard time answering this question. That’s why I asked TBP members. Plenty of differing opinions.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
May 21, 2022 10:16 pm

Really big important question:
Is your favorite comedian a jew?

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 21, 2022 12:33 pm

I wonder who the Pharisees were?

Lol, rhetorical question. Lol.

Stucky
Stucky
May 21, 2022 12:46 pm

.

Ghost
Ghost
  Stucky
May 21, 2022 12:48 pm

I suspect you posted this on the wrong thread.

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Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
May 21, 2022 1:21 pm

Something to always keep in mind when discussing these kinds of questions..

Modern Hebrew, (1800 AD?) is a construct. Cut from whole cloth. A fabrication by the Khazrian/Askenazi imposters who are also the Jew imposters who are also the Hebrew imposters who are also the Adamic imposters. Hybrid Kenite(of Cain)/Angel beings or offspring of Nephilim and human women also known later as Tares and Name Stealers. Writers of the Masoretic Texts were Edomite imposters and yes I have links and have posted them here often. This is the basis for the KJV and most other modern “Bibles”. You should proceed with at least two good concordances and a Lexicon.

Ancient Hebrew and Paleo Hebrew are lost. Ancient Hebrew is sometimes claimed to be Phoenician or similar to it. I have no experience in this area to even offer links. Problems arise when trying to define the Phoenicians themselves.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 21, 2022 1:41 pm

Another question for everyone:

If you didn’t think Jesus was an actual, historical person, would you still be a Christian?

BL
BL
  Anonymous
May 21, 2022 2:10 pm

Anon- Most likely a Mithraic practicioner as it was the previous offering of the Son/Sun of God out of many. Those darn Mithrians…..

BL
BL
  BL
May 21, 2022 2:24 pm

Born on December 25th

Died and rose three days later

To whom am I referring to with these two statements?

BL
BL
  BL
May 21, 2022 2:31 pm

Anyone?? Bueller….Bueller?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BL
May 21, 2022 3:12 pm

You notice that people don’t get butthurt if you say mithras never existed?

BL
BL
  Anonymous
May 21, 2022 3:34 pm

The answer to the 2:24 question is Mithra. I could give about a dozen other names to answer the 2:24 question as there have been many other than Jesus and Mithra. I don’t have any problem with Christianity/Jesus as I feel society is a better place with Jesus in their hearts and minds. We are free to go down many paths.

Aardvark-Gnosis
Aardvark-Gnosis
May 22, 2022 8:04 am

“Repeat Say”, Say Repeat, Repeat Say… Mental conditioning is the propagated lie that is considered truth! Loook at mythology and turn it into something concrete with printed words… Now repeat after me! The all say, is the main say, and all say the same thing even though they have no idea what rationale of logic preceeds its deliverance as realistic truth!???