QOTD: HOW WILL THIS FOURTH TURNING END?

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What is your best guess on how this Fourth Turning will unfold and end?

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ken
ken
June 3, 2022 11:27 am

The “American crisis” will not lost until 2030 because America will not last until 2030. —ken

pyrrhuis
pyrrhuis
  ken
June 3, 2022 6:22 pm

Make that 2032, when the US begins dividing up…about the same time that the energy crisis peaks and the population starts to collapse…

Jingoism And Generalities
Jingoism And Generalities
  ken
June 3, 2022 7:50 pm

OK – I understand your timeline is pre 2030….but HOW does it end?

To me that’s easy.

The Game is Risk. The Goal is World Domination. Someone will try to run the board shortly.

HOWEVER, in this game of real-life Risk, we are in a Mexican Standoff with NUKES.

To believe all parties will refrain from pulling the trigger is unrealistic.

The end of this 4th turning WILL involve the use of Nukes or destructive equivalents of nukes (or worse).

KaD
KaD
June 3, 2022 11:33 am

We will be growing our own food again.

KaD
KaD
  KaD
June 3, 2022 12:18 pm

Don’t know if you’ve ever seen it, but if not search “map of future North America”. I’ve known about it for a while but never understood why this would be until recently. Now scientists believe that the Pacific plate is not subducting below the North American plate property, at a 45 degree angle, but at a much more shallow angle.comment image

Harrington Richardson: Gimme Sachwerte!
Harrington Richardson: Gimme Sachwerte!
  KaD
June 3, 2022 12:21 pm

Hurry up so I can get some of that Illinois ocean front property. Good things come to he who waits. LOL!

The Duke of New York
The Duke of New York
  KaD
June 3, 2022 1:37 pm

We’ve got some Lemurian beachfront condos ready to go, you can contact our sales rep Hunter B.

august
august
  The Duke of New York
June 5, 2022 5:39 pm

Doug Casey has a lock on Lemurian beachfront acreage; he got in early, and partnered with the local governor.

rhs jr
rhs jr
  KaD
June 3, 2022 2:12 pm

A large part of the western plate may sink below sea level (San Francisco, LA etc) on the west side and rise 1,000 ft on the east side (the Sierra Nevada). A fault will expand from N.O. to Labrador creating a seaway from the Gulf to the Atlantic; the eastern land mass will rotate slightly clockwise as seen in the map above. Not shown but I believe the east-west pressure on the US plate will decrease and the middle of the US plate will sink enough to form an inland sea. Florida may be pushed down (towards Cuba) and become flooded. A Hudson Valley earthquake will destroy NYC and its’ ZOG bankers.

smooth brain
smooth brain
  KaD
June 3, 2022 3:41 pm

surf’s up!

Herc
Herc
  KaD
June 3, 2022 4:56 pm

Is that why bill gates bought all that land in Arizona?

Remember reading article on Forbes years ago, had where all the billionaires own the most land through out the united states , everyone had their territory sort of but New Mexico was the one state they all had a piece in…I always wondered if it was coincidence they all chose the same state, like if they knew something we didn’t

Anonymous
Anonymous
  KaD
June 3, 2022 5:00 pm

One can hope. From the map it looks like this would douche out just about all of the blue smeg.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  KaD
June 3, 2022 7:53 pm

So the ocean rises, submerging a good portion of North America…but wait!….two gigantic islands appear, one named Atlantis!
WTF?
Where in the hell did you find this bullshit map?

KaD
KaD
  Anonymous
June 4, 2022 11:18 am

Similar maps have come from several sources independently over the last 100 years or so.
And the ocean doesn’t rise, western America sinks after California has the big one and the pressure is released off the fault line.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  KaD
June 3, 2022 8:21 pm

Don’t think any of us will be around to see it. Gonna take a long time.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  KaD
June 3, 2022 9:44 pm

Eastern Canada looks like a Scottish Terrier.

Marky
Marky
  KaD
June 3, 2022 12:35 pm

Not sure you can count on growing food. The poisoning of the soil and water with chemtrail chemicals, weather manipulation causing drought and extreme weather events, nuclear winter or God’s weapons of judgment , volcanoes, earthquakes, massive solar flare, asteroid strikes. Good luck growing food.

Anon
Anon
June 3, 2022 11:37 am

As my grandfather used to say “Fuck around, fuck around – go home crying”

This can only end in tears for all of us.

PSBindy
PSBindy
  Anon
June 3, 2022 12:51 pm

You had (have?) a cool grandpa, nonny. Never heard it put quite that way before.

GNL
GNL
June 3, 2022 11:40 am

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ICE-9
ICE-9
June 3, 2022 11:42 am

For a very good historical series on how 4th Turnings really did end I would suggest the 14 videos produced by the young British historian Paul Cook – Fall of Civilizations. The guy does an excellent job at setting the geographic, climate, and political contexts leading up to the fall and extinction of each civilization featured. They are long – sometimes 3-1/2 hours – so there is an investment of time involved.

Here is the Youtube search query link –
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fall+of+civilization+podcast

ursel doran
ursel doran
June 3, 2022 11:42 am

Intense review of the condition our condition is in.
“”This can’t last. The hatreds are intense, the guns everywhere, anger growing at crime, something akin to economic desperation appearing.
Washington will leave nowhere alone, will not address national problems, will always give priority to its military, its wars and its empire over domestic needs.
The hostility that fueled the Floyd riots, the burning cities, the looting and vengeful vandalism, are still there. She’s going to blow. Watch.””
https://thesaker.is/shes-gonna-blow-its-weimar-but-where-is-our-adolf/

Harrington Richardson: Gimme Sachwerte!
Harrington Richardson: Gimme Sachwerte!
  ursel doran
June 3, 2022 12:30 pm

Very unfair overview from the Saker. Dementia Joe is withholding school lunch funding from any school that won’t teach faggotry and let boys use the girl’s restrooms. FOR REAL. How could we ever reject such brilliance and decency? s/
Judging from what I am seeing and hearing compared to a couple of years ago the folks have had it with these fuqueres and as most of us know, the real shitshow is still a few months down the road. Dementia Joe, Kamalto Hoass and all the other enablers and destructors could very well be decorating lamp posts sooner than later. I think it accurate to say that while I always considered myself pretty hard right and I haven’t changed I seem to have a lot more company and have a growing number to the right of me.

Chris
Chris

Re: let boys use the girl’s restrooms
It’s then up to the future real men in these schools not to let it happen. Our HS tried a similar thing, and one wack-job tried to exploit it, until about 10 future real men stopped it. Never a problem again. Proud of those boys and they all are turning into quite solid men.

Arthur
Arthur

No lunch money? That’s like sanctions against Russia. School lunch is poison.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot

Who exactly gets the free breakfast, lunch and snack? It’s the moocher class of course, so the corrupt old pedophile will hurt his base?

Tony
Tony
  TN Patriot
June 4, 2022 1:58 pm

“Who exactly gets the free breakfast, lunch and snack? ”

Anyone that wants it of course, anything else would be wacist.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Tony
June 4, 2022 2:24 pm

Around here the family has to fall under 150% of the poverty level. I guess the EBT card is not enough to cover the kids lunches and breakfasts as well as mom’s beer, wine and smokes.

CCRider
CCRider
June 3, 2022 11:46 am

I’ll take the optimistic track. After a long period of unbelievable death and privation humans will finally come to understand that rule by coercion, force, and intimidation is evil. Governance will evolve into local and separate voluntary associations with like-minded individuals. Perhaps Europe from the end of the Napoleonic wars until WW1 is the correct model. Separate city-states were formed that provided peace and prosperity for that entire century. All the currencies were interchangeable precious metals, goods, and people flowed unhampered. If it happened then it can happen again.

The constant doom and gloom make us all defeatist and cowardly. Life on earth has always been dangerous and frightening. It’s just our turn in the barrel. Suck it up and be determined.

Harrington Richardson: Gimme Sachwerte!
Harrington Richardson: Gimme Sachwerte!
  CCRider
June 3, 2022 12:32 pm

You left out the Revolutions of 1848 and the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.

CCRider
CCRider

There were wars to be sure and murder, theft, etc. Humans are very defective beings. But those wars were isolated and very much less lethal than the slaughter pens to come once the separated entities united into countries. For more detail read Hans H Hoppe’s masterpiece; Democracy. The God That Failed.

CCRider
CCRider
June 3, 2022 11:48 am

I’ll take the optimistic track. After a long period of unbelievable death and privation humans will finally come to understand that rule by coercion, force, and intimidation is evil. Governance will evolve into local and separate voluntary associations with like-minded individuals. Perhaps Europe from the end of the Napoleonic wars until WW1 is the correct model. Separate city-states were formed that provided peace and prosperity for that entire century. All the currencies were interchangeable precious metals, goods, and people flowed unhampered. If it happened then it can happen again.

The constant doom and gloom make us all defeatist and cowardly. Life on earth has always been dangerous and frightening. It’s just our turn in the barrel. Suck it up and be determined.

CCRider
CCRider
  CCRider
June 3, 2022 11:49 am

Not sure how that happened.

Hollow man
Hollow man
June 3, 2022 11:52 am

Not sure who comes out ahead ,China? But we will be sucking the tit closest to the asshole.

Marky
Marky
  Hollow man
June 3, 2022 11:25 pm

One of my theories is the NWO elitist bastards in alliance with the Dragon/China using the retard in chief and the souless ruling class to provoke a nuclear war between USA/Russia. They kill 2 birds with one nuclear stone. Its a genius plan and the winner is China the template for the beast system. The Dragon in bible prophecy is called the Devil but I believe it saying something in relation to the China as well. If USA/Russia destroy each other, China easily annexes all of Russia.

Nelson Muntz
Nelson Muntz
June 3, 2022 11:55 am

After 50 years riding dirtbikes I can tell you that if you focus on a rock, a rut or some other obstacle that you hope to avoid you will without fail run smack dab right into whatever you are focused on, whether you wish to avoid it or not. The first lesson in off-road riding (or any riding) is to #1 look as far ahead as you can practically see, which gives you time to react to the changing trail, and #2 be aware of hazards, but always always always focus on where you want to go and not on what you want to avoid.

We manifest into our lives whatever it is that we are focused on. Which is why the doom narrative is so thick and so deep.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Nelson Muntz
June 3, 2022 4:39 pm

Sounds like what were taught as tractor trailer drivers … called ‘defensive driving’ … always worked well for me …

Arthur
Arthur
  Nelson Muntz
June 3, 2022 5:08 pm

Correct. We decide what happens to us. No need to follow the demons into the pit.

fujigm
fujigm
  Nelson Muntz
June 4, 2022 1:36 am

Just like racing.
Focus as far out as possible.
Your body follows your focus.
If you see a wreck and want to avoid it, aim for that spot.
It is the one place the wreck will not be when you get there…

zappalives
zappalives
June 3, 2022 12:12 pm

Its not going to end in 2030 !
It ends when the people rise up and kill all parasites in fed/corp/gov.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
June 3, 2022 12:14 pm

The “United” States as we know it will not exist and the country will be Balkanized. The gulf between those who depend on government and those who see government as the primary problem is too big to be bridged. There will probably be bloodshed, as the government dependent will not like what is happening in their region when the people take control. It will be an interesting time for all of us who are still here to witness/partake.

fujigm
fujigm
  TN Patriot
June 4, 2022 1:40 am

Interesting?
It will be epic.
Awesome.
My life has never disappointed me the epic shit.
No reason to believe it will this time…

realestatepup
realestatepup
June 3, 2022 12:39 pm

The pendulum never stops in the middle. So while we are on the wide swing to the crazy left, it is entirely possible we can end up on the wide swing to the crazy right. Think Handmaid’s Tale + Children of Men crazy.
Every action has an equal, opposite reaction. It won’t happen overnight, but when people are oppressed by one side, the unfortunately look to the exact opposite side to “solve the problem”.
Humans are ever reactionary and irrational creatures. Our emotions make us what and who we are, but they also make us vulnerable to charismatic, dangerous people with “ideas”.
Can we be sensible this time? We had a period of sensibility that brought us through the Revolutionary war. It was a blip in the stream of time and then we forgot all about our ideals and started acting like idiots again, or letting idiots act for us. Whatever the case may be, human sensibility is pretty much not a guarantee no matter how bad the decisions were that got us to crazy town in the first place.
One thing IS pretty much guaranteed though. Nature abhors both a vacuum and central planning, so all the Mordor dwellers may think they got this in the bag…but Law of Unintended Consequences tends to throw its lot in with Ma Nature and together they can wreak havoc on the best laid plans.
Evil tends to be such a caricature I find it amusing how anyone can take them seriously. So they carry all the guns and swagger around with the full force of the military and police behind them. Until suddenly they don’t. The White Russians learned that the hard way for sure. Marie and her minions also minced around for quite a while until it was decided their bodies would be sans heads.
Anyone can try and Alinsky the whole thing into some gender-neutral blender of pink hair and pregnant men with a giant “woman” on a swim team, but eventually it all becomes so absolutely ridiculous that no one will even pay attention anymore.
The coming Hunger Games may be the final straw and push the populace into waking up. Mass starvation+ people with guns generally do not tolerate said starvation for very long. Hey Bill, good luck holding onto all that farmland.

Winchester
Winchester
June 3, 2022 1:06 pm

Hard to predict…but war will be inevitable. Many tend to think World War, but I look closer to home with a sort of Civil War. Perhaps both will occur as one can feed the other. The mood of Americans is changing. We are sick of trying to vote our way out of shit. The government knows it and deems anyone who speaks out a “domestic terrorist”. It is coming to blows sooner than we think. We can no longer go on like this…

Souplady
Souplady
June 3, 2022 1:32 pm

The world is ripe for the antichrist to make his entrance into the world just after the born-again Christians are raptured into heaven which I believe will be very soon (as in probably this year before the end of September and it won’t be by outer space beings). The antichrist will make a seven year treaty with Israel and the Jews will rebuild their temple and three and a half years later he will renege on the treaty and will go into the temple and proclaim himself to be God. At that point the Jews and any new post-rapture Christian believers will be persecuted like never before. God’s wrath will be poured out on all the wickedness of the world in ever more intense events until Jesus comes back at the end of the seven year Tribulation. Jesus will bind Satan from influencing the world and establish His worldwide kingdom with Jerusalem as the capitol city and will clean up the world administering true justice for all of mankind during the 1000 year Millennium Kingdom age. Satan will be released at the end of 1000 years and will rally an army to fight against Jesus, but Christ destroys the antichrist and his army sending Satan into the Lake of Fire. This is a fight between good and evil and in the end God wins. We are now living in the days that were like Noah (genetic manipulation of human DNA) and Lot (sexual perversion and immorality) so we know the Rapture is imminent especially given the current technology which will enable a one-world government dictator to control the people. Be sure you are on the winning side and get to know God’s son, Jesus Christ, before it is too late. There is no human savior to fix this corrupt world and we must focus on God in order to be saved.

Phantom lurking
Phantom lurking
  Souplady
June 3, 2022 9:46 pm

The Book of Revelation is mostly talking about the destruction of the Jewish Temple in 70 AD. John wrote it about 68 AD, not 95 AD, and it soon came to pass. The temple will not be rebuilt…the New Jerusalem is in Heaven. There will be no rapture.

Stucky
Stucky
  Phantom lurking
June 3, 2022 10:40 pm

” … John wrote it about 68 AD, “

Total bullshit.

NO ONE knows the exact year that ANY book in the bible was
written.

Yes, scholars say they have evidence that Revelation was written before the temple was destroyed in 70AD. But, imho, it is rather weak.

Far better evidence exists for a date after 70AD.

But, again, no one knows for certain. So, stop bullshitting people and pretending that you do.

Marky
Marky
  Phantom lurking
June 3, 2022 11:38 pm

A rapture event is clearly written about in Rev Ch. 11:11
“And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.”
This is exactly what is described in I Thes 4:15-17. Cant say exactly who else will be raptured probably very few believers left alive at that appointed time but there will certainly be a rapture according to scripture.
https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/mark-renne/the-mystery-of-revelation-107/ebook/product-d76wwd.html?page=1&pageSize=4

daniel bjorndahl
daniel bjorndahl
  Souplady
June 3, 2022 9:57 pm

no pre-trib rapture

Stucky
Stucky
  Souplady
June 3, 2022 10:41 pm

Hal Lindsey wrote the above post.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Stucky
June 3, 2022 11:04 pm

He made a comfy living off of it too at the expense of those who want the too good to be true story to be true anyway.

CrossingTheRubicon
CrossingTheRubicon
June 3, 2022 1:35 pm

Fake vaccine die-off (per Deagle numbers), followed by ethnic-cleansing, and finally the splitting of the nation into multiple autocratic states. These chain of events will not be isolated to the United States. They will occur in every country in the world.

The Duke of New York
The Duke of New York
June 3, 2022 1:36 pm

Garbage people eating bug burgers in a cubicle down by the train tracks while the US Army chases good ol’ boys all around Appalachia and elsewhere

In short, nothing good

Tony
Tony
June 3, 2022 1:45 pm

Another state of emergency will be declared for some asinine reason and the midterm elections will be “postponed” until further notice. Lockdowns will commence followed by round ups and gun confiscation efforts, probably with blue helmets. It will not go well and the real shooting will start. The gooberment will go underground and hide out for the duration. It very easily could last until 2030…

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
June 3, 2022 1:46 pm

It started 5 years ago, when there was almost no food left on the shelves that one week before Thanksgiving. On TV, they said that it was the rich people who had bought up all of it for their family feasts. With horror, we saw on TV how an angry mob of 200 mostly black people stormed Johns Hopkins hospital, killed 31 cafeteria staff, security personnel and random bystanders, ransacked the cafeteria and destroyed much of the first and second floor of the hospital because there was not enough food.

Three days later, the same had happened in over 50 hospitals in the US. Since then, all of the hospitals in the US were on permanent lockdown, stopped treating patients other than emergencies, but many nurses and doctors still refused to show up to work. At that time, I took our kids and left our mostly white affluent suburban home. We had plans A, B and C in place, and even plans A1, A2, A3, B1, B2, B3, C1, C2 and C3. We went with plan B2, and not a day too early, because that is when the violence spread from hospitals to urban and suburban neighborhoods. Two years ago they had made possession of guns illegal and about 30 million guns had been turned in. Every day, there were new reports of hungry mobs of people heading toward the areas that they perceived to be “the rich people’s towns”. They looted, burned down the homes and brutally murdered the homeowners if they did not have enough food.

A friend texted us that our own house had been looted and the contents destroyed or taken, but at least it wasn’t burnt down. The neighbors next door had fled to their vacation home in the Berkshires. The neighbors across the street, whose cat we used to feed when they went on vacation and who always had a BLM sign on the lawn had been murdered and their bodies left on the front lawn.

In the last 6 months or so, things have calmed down. You have to understand how life changed in the last 5 years: it only started as I described above. Within just a few days, armed militias formed in every affluent neighborhood, where people lived who had homes they did not want to leave or lose. Any intruder who did not belong there was asked to leave, and was killed on the spot if he caused trouble. Over time, these neighborhoods were fortified and became more organized, with patrols, fences, leaders and rules. They also grew in size. If you were on the outside, socially or geographically, you could not get in unless you brought something that was needed. You were vetted carefully and someone had to vouch for you if you wanted to become part of it.

Once you became part of the neighborhood/village, if you broke any of the rules or betrayed anybody, you were publicly executed for even the most minor infraction such as stealing a tomato out of the community provisions.

Many perished, mostly those that were outside of a neighborhood when they fought with each other. Some killed themselves. Relatively few died when the roaming mobs confronted the neighborhoods in order to gain access to their supplies. Overall, about 200 million died in the United States alone.

Since the fighting has died down over the last 6 months, our leaders are seeking out other neighborhood leaders in order to combine resources and collaborate. We think that we might form an alliance with a group of people 1500 miles east, because they have a different topography of land and also have a lot of masons in their midst, while we have more nurses and woodworkers.

49%mfer
49%mfer
  Svarga Loka
June 3, 2022 2:03 pm

Very well written, thank you.

“The neighbors across the street, whose cat we used to feed when they went on vacation and who always had a BLM sign on the lawn had been murdered and their bodies left on the front lawn.”

That’s how they know your unarmed.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  49%mfer
June 3, 2022 2:33 pm

Those ARE our neighbors for real. In their defense, she said she will watch out for our lost cat today.

Mountainrat
Mountainrat
  Svarga Loka
June 3, 2022 3:19 pm

I pray you find your feline friend. I love my four legged family more than most of my fellow humans, so I know how worried you must be.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Svarga Loka
June 3, 2022 2:57 pm

And this is why I say, eventually, your skin color will be your uniform.

rhs jr
rhs jr
June 3, 2022 1:56 pm

By Chinese troops invading the Left Coast and the incompetent & spent US Military being unable to stop them. They will advance into the midwest when but their homeland collapses and cannot supply them; Americans who still have their guns slaughter the Chinese Troops. The pagan population will be decimated and cities destroyed. PS: Prior to the invasion, we had already been severely weakened by famine, Cultural Communism, the NWO Plans implemented by American Traitors supporting The UN Beast’s Systems (Universal IDs & Passports, CBDC, Social Credits, Gun Control Laws, Mandatory Vaccinations, etc). The Gospels say Jesus will return about then and that should be the restart.

David
David
June 3, 2022 2:47 pm

I can’t even imagine what is going to happen. Every time I try to predict I am mostly wrong. I have been stunned how quickly the left, once they seized power in 2020, have been able to mess up America and the world. A minority trying to suppress a majority never works. Especially when the majority is armed. The fact the constitution exists is really upsetting the left. They have jacked up the economy pretty bad with energy prices and other stuff leading to inflation. They face a devastating election in 2022 except they are going to cheat again. That may be the end. Another blatantly stolen election may be enough to force normal people to take action. The level of fraud that will be required in 2022 for the left to remain in power will just be too much to tolerate. 2000 Mules blew the 2020 election wide open. A lot of people are watching the movie. If Yuma AZ is able to verify the movie results there will be more action taken. I am waiting to see what happens there.

Todd Packer's Mentor
Todd Packer's Mentor
June 3, 2022 3:01 pm

Just look to history as your guide.
Whenever the left has totally taken over, they centralize power, eliminate opposition parties, steal your property, commence with mass starvation, set up gulags and send out the death squads.
This is not hyperbole. This is what they do. Literally.
To effectively resist, and stave off the Left’s takeover, focus on your:
Faith (in Jesus Christ)
Family (nuclear)
Finances (stop spending and get out of debt!)
Firearms (whatever you fancy).
Spread the word.

DS
DS
  Todd Packer's Mentor
June 3, 2022 10:44 pm

Succinct and well-stated

Most leftists and “progressives” don’t know shit about history

TwatWaffle
TwatWaffle
June 3, 2022 3:15 pm

“….to thunderous applause.”

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 3, 2022 4:35 pm

“HOW WILL THIS FOURTH TURNING END?”

Far fucking worse than anyone has imagined so far…. Would be my bet.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
June 3, 2022 4:42 pm

Unless and until we do 2 really critical things, our ass is grass and someone else has the lawnmower: we must secure our borders — end any and all immigration and visas for any and all purposes; clean house in our government — end all of the various alphabet agencies and those that push any agendas in alignment with the UN, the WHO, the IMF or any of the banking establishment … 

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 3, 2022 5:40 pm

IMO the globalists are losing in the U.S and they need the U.S for their plan to work. They stole 2016 but more and more people are waking up to that. They’re failing with vaccines, they’re failing with grooming in schools, they’re failing with the economy, they’re failing with crime, they’re failing with twitter.

People are waking up everyday and no one wants the world they’re creating.

Oldtoad of Green Acres
Oldtoad of Green Acres
June 3, 2022 6:07 pm

USA will break into pieces.
There was a Russian KGB’er earlier than this guy https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/06/map-of-the-day-ex-kgb-analyst-predicts-balkanization-of-us/58945/
He suggested that DC would nuke the US west and that Russia would eventually nuke DC.
Maine would go with Canada as Canada will fracture as well. The Southwest will go with Mexico.
2/3 of USA will die.
I am an optimist, looking at the bright side of life.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
June 3, 2022 8:18 pm

The more time the rat spends cornered, the worse the prospects for the species. Not to say that they shouldn’t be cornered, but the action must be swift. They might just choose to pull the plug on everything…if that is actually possible.

Stucky
Stucky
June 3, 2022 10:22 pm

We …. Christians only, ahem!!! …. will be raptured before the 4th turning ends. I am a pre-Turnerite.

Marky
Marky
June 3, 2022 11:06 pm

HOW WILL THIS FOURTH TURNING END?
With a big BANG