Why Renewables Can’t Save The Planet

Michael Shellenberger | TEDxDanubia

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Iska Waran
Iska Waran
June 20, 2022 7:58 pm

He’s running for governor of CA.
https://www.shellenbergerforgovernor.com/

So of course he has zero chance.

Boogieman
Boogieman
June 20, 2022 8:23 pm

The Planet doesn’t need saving.

Melty
Melty
June 20, 2022 8:23 pm

Wow such a revelation. Nuclear has had a target on it since the 70s econazis started in on it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 20, 2022 8:45 pm

Another frigging dumbshit. Thanks for wasting my time.

pyrrhuis
pyrrhuis
June 20, 2022 9:39 pm

Why renewables can’t work?—Physics…1.There is a tremendous amount of dense energy locked in fossil fuels, and there isn’t in sunlight or wind..2. Fossil fuels can provide a steady and consistent flow of energy, 24/7..sunlight and wind only work 7-10 hours a day, then you need fossil fuels to keep the system running

scott henson
scott henson
  pyrrhuis
June 20, 2022 10:07 pm

And oil doesn’t actually come from dinosaurs and plants and bullshit like that. That was the cover story to make us think that it was rare, and so, willing to pay a bunch of money out the ass to buy it. I think most people on here are smart enough to know that it’s abiotic oil – totally renewable. Fuk John D(ick) Rockefeller

bucknp
bucknp
  scott henson
June 20, 2022 10:25 pm

May not interest folks here. I’m slowly reading The Tyranny Of Oil. 1st Edition, 2008. It’s one of those books people that were talking about Liberty back then recommended.

Long Time Lurker
Long Time Lurker
  bucknp
June 21, 2022 12:25 am

“Production at the oil field, deep in the Gulf of Mexico off the coast of Louisiana, was supposed to have declined years ago. And for a while. it behaved like any normal field: Following its 1973 discovery, Eugene Island 330’s output peaked at about 15,000 barrels a day. By 1989, production had slowed to about 4,000 barrels a day.

Then suddenly — some say almost inexplicably — Eugene Island’s fortunes reversed. The field, operated by PennzEnergy Co., is now producing 13,000 barrels a day, and probable reserves have rocketed to more than 400 million barrels from 60 million. Stranger still, scientists studying the field say the crude coming out of the pipe is of a geological age quite different from the oil that gushed 10 years ago.

All of which has led some scientists to a radical theory: Eugene Island is rapidly refilling itself, perhaps from some continuous source miles below the Earth’s surface. That, they say, raises the tantalizing possibility that oil may not be the limited resource it is assumed to be. …

Jean Whelan, a geochemist and senior researcher from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts … says, “I believe there is a huge system of oil just migrating” deep underground. … About 80 miles off the Louisiana coast, the underwater landscape surrounding Eugene Island is otherworldly, cut with deep fissures and faults that spontaneously belch gas and oil.”

https://educate-yourself.org/cn/davemcgowanstalinandabioticoil05mar05.shtml

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
  scott henson
June 20, 2022 10:32 pm

No, no, no, oil comes from Leprechaun shit. Everyone knows that!

Chris
Chris
  scott henson
June 20, 2022 10:41 pm

Yup, thanks Scott. I am trying to educate by always calling it ‘natural’ fuels, which it is. Of course whenever an article/paper is written to prove ‘natural’ fuels it is censored.

Long Time Lurker
Long Time Lurker
  scott henson
June 21, 2022 12:19 am

Yep Scott. But diamonds, they come from dinosaurs lol

Sam Fox
Sam Fox
  scott henson
June 21, 2022 1:02 am

Scott–What you said is what helped Russia become a big oil producer. In the 50’s Russian & Ukrainian scientists discovered that oil did not come from fossils. Oil is a natural occurring substance that forms deep in the earth.

https://canadafreepress.com/article/oil-is-not-a-fossil-fuel-and-agw-is-non-science

Oil is not a vanishing commodity that needs to be replaced, as the ‘peak oil’ propagandists claim. Nothing wrong with using oil, nothing wrong with making it burn clean. Let’s just use it & flip the New World Order’s plan for a one world government that they would control into the trash pile of history.

The NWO ‘people’ want us regular citizens herded into living areas they control. Few if any of us would have personal private transportation. We would have to get around on their public transportation.

To ensure their total control, they would also stick us with a ‘social credit score’ similar to the Chinese Communists model. If the people don’t toe the party line, they get restrictions.

Research the Chinese Social Credit Score. No freedom allowed!!

The man in the video offered up some good info. Nuclear sounds good…

SamFox

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
June 20, 2022 10:44 pm

I’ve read two of Shellenberger’s books. He is a smart guy with a good handle on the truth. In Apocalypse Never he called out the global warming zealots as bullshit artists. In San Fransicko he did a great analysis on why the West Coast has a homeless problem.

His only immersion in stupidity is thinking he has a chance running for governor of California.

bucknp
bucknp
  Trapped in Portlandia
June 20, 2022 11:36 pm

Saw the vid some time ago.

Here’s a thought concerning electric cars. Like most things political, there was at one time technology and development of the NiMH battery for electric vehicles whose patent and development was locked away by General Motors. As we know, GM has always been at the front and center with the tyranny of oil. We make gasoline engines that depend on oil. GM later sold the patent to Texaco-Chevron where it remains inaccessible for further use or development. It is said the NiMH rechargeable is more practical than current lithium technology which is more expensive with no recycle value. And NiMH supposedly has longer range on a charge. Not that an electric will enable a person to drive from New York to Los Angeles, but perhaps useful utility none the less.

So, Agenda 2030 or Agenda 21, whatever these hair brained agendas, supposedly want to pack people into big cities like rats with electric cars. Seems to me people are already packed in big cities like rats and for a long time with gasoline cars. Big cities are where the jobs are. My point, if people want electric cars, the technology is locked away that could make them more viable and for big city commuting why not?

Hey, don’t mess with Zionist international bankers that ultimately are the benefactors of oil profits. We got a bargain around here, regular is around $4.69-$4.89.

Captain_Obviuos
Captain_Obviuos
  bucknp
June 21, 2022 1:20 am

I will never call any gas price a bargain. It is an artifically-controlled racket by huge multinational conglomerates.

My thoughts on owning an electric car tends to the practical side: if your gas-powered engine runs out of gas, you can simply go fill up a gas can, lug it back to the car and put the gas in, BAM, off you go; if your EV runs out of battery charge, try going and filling up a can with electricity (or dragging one of those batteries back to the car).

bucknp
bucknp
  Captain_Obviuos
June 21, 2022 10:53 am

I recall years ago talk of gasoline prices in political forums. Some said gas should only be $1.25 gal. My comment on the bargain was /s of course. So how much “should” gas be? I thought it was still too high at $1.80.

On the electrics, I’ll probably never own one. The thing is , don’t let it run out of juice just like don’t let the gas tank run empty. Possibly the application of electric travel by those in the big cities will be no different than remembering to plug in the cell phone at night. Who knows. Just saying they probably have utility for some folks.

Toyotas hybrid Prius actually made sense. No plug in required that I know of. I know people that moved to Texas from California driving Prius. Here we are in Texas with big diesel PUs , what the hell you doing here, boy! Get out my way in that squirrel car. It seems the Prius is reliable and these California peeps had a lot of miles on them.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 21, 2022 12:43 am

First you promote energy policies that anyone with mechanical and electrical know how said sure wind and solar power works but there is not enough bang for the buck plus the cost in building the equipment and the energy needed to produce it no gain for the pain .
So here we are circling the drain energy wise and economically bankrupt !
Oh and your leftist greenies want it to be worse !
For the last 50 years you leftist elites have destroyed American industrial might rather than strengthen and improve and now it to damn late .
We are a weak nation mentally , physically , morally and economically bankrupt FUBAR

bucknp
bucknp
  Anonymous
June 21, 2022 11:05 am

It’s interesting in the redneck part of the world in which I live that my electric co-op electricity provider has invested in a proposed solar farm in this area. No update as to whether construction has begun. The solar seems to make some sense especially during hot summer months. I’m not on the board of directors for the co-op. I know they are freaking out at the cost of current resources in order to provide electric service to customers. That being said I cannot imagine them putting a pencil to a plan that will result on an enormous increase in their cost for a resource. I’m no solar guru so what do I know, only what my service provider relays but being redneck here I’m sort of surprised. And for the most part, peeps that run the co-op and their employees are locally born and raised so it’s not some bunch of libtards moving in and changing the whole thing.