Bakhmut, Strategic Or Not, Is Falling

Guest Post by Moon of Alabama

‘Western’ media can not decide if Bakhmut is a strategic city or has little strategic value. They claim both is the case.

Bakhmut is of course of strategic value. It is covering the crossing of three major train lines and four major roads (M-03, M-32, T-13-02, T-05-13). As such it is the linchpin of the whole Donbas region. Besides that it also has some valuable mineral mines.


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That is why the Ukrainian government has send ten thousands of its troops to fight and die for that city.

People who claim otherwise are simply coping.

Some examples:

This DW piece, originally written in Russian, is probably the best on the issue:

Bakhmut: What will be the outcome of the battle?DW – Mar 3, 2023

Bakhmut is of great strategic importance to both the Ukrainian and the Russian forces, says Marina Miron, a research fellow at the Centre for Military Ethics at King’s College London. Miron believes that, if Russian troops capture the city, they will advance further, perhaps toward Kramatorsk.“They would control important roads, cutting off the Ukrainian armed forces and making the defense much harder for them,” says Miron. She warns that this would also undermine the morale of the Ukrainian troops, and could lead to Western partners losing confidence in the capabilities of the Ukrainian army.

Ralph Thiele, a retired German colonel who has served on the personal staff of NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander Europe, agrees. “The Ukrainian side is basically compelled — also by its Western partners — to deliver successes. There has to be some sort of constant public justification for the huge amount of support being given to Ukraine,” says Thiele.

Mike Martin, a researcher at King’s College London, says Russia is persisting in its efforts to capture Bakhmut because it corresponds to Putin’s stated war aim of, in his words, “liberating the Donbas.” Martin explains: “If you look at the way the roads and the rail networks are arranged, there are two bigger settlements to the west of Bakhmut, but still in the Donbas: Sloviansk and Kramatorsk. And in order to take those bigger cities, which he needs to do to complete his strategic goal, he needs to take Bakhmut first.”

The Ukrainians in Bakhmut and elsewhere are outgunned 10 to 1:

The Ukraine war has become a ferocious battle dominated by artillery and Ukrainian forces are operating at a huge disadvantage: Russia has numerical superiority of 10 heavy guns to every one at the disposal of Kyiv. Furthermore, Ukraine is running low on ammunition and requires urgent supplies of shells, Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s government has warned.

According to data from the European Commission to which EL PAÍS has had access, Russia fires between 40,000 and 50,000 artillery shells per day, compared to 5,000-6,000 Ukrainian forces expend. The Estonian government, which has been one of largest contributors to Kyiv’s war effort, puts the average use of artillery at between 20,000 and 60,000 Russian shells per day, and 2,000 to 7,000 Ukrainian rounds, according to a document sent to EU Member States by Tallinn, to which this newspaper has had access. These numbers equate to between 600,000 and 1.8 million Russian shells fired per month, compared to between 60,000 and 210,000 by Ukrainian artillery.

Over the last six weeks the Russian counter-battery campaign destroyed some additional 500 Ukrainian howitzers and multiple rocket launchers. The Russian Lancet suicide drones (videos) have done a lot of that work. Russia has thereby increased its own artillery advantage even more.

As artillery is the major killer in any modern war this also means that casualties on both sides will follow a similar ratio as the number of guns and rounds fired by each side.

For the last several weeks the daily ‘clobber report’ by the Russian Defense Ministry reported some 350-400 Ukrainian soldiers killed per day along the whole frontline. On Thursday that number increased to 640, stayed at 640 in Friday’s report and increased to 880 in today’s report. 490 of those were reported in the Bakhmut area.

BBC cooperates with other organization to count every announcement of a dead soldier in the Russian local media. Since the start of the war it has identified a total of 16,000:

Throughout 2022, Russian sources typically reported about 250–300 deaths each week, doubling in January and continuing to grow again in February.

Russian source report death per week at a lower rate than Ukrainian death per day. The ratio is again about 10 Ukrainians for 1 Russian. That number of Russian dead has doubled in January and further increased in February says the BBC. But the 10 to 1 ratio between Ukrainian and Russian dead will still have been the same.

I have said for a while that Bakhmut was in operational encirclement. Russian artillery could reach its last roads in and out. Since three days ago Bakhmut is in tactical encirclement. Russian direct fire, i.e. tank guns and hand held anti-tank missiles, can now cover all of Bakhmut’s supply routes. They will shot at any car that attempts to drive there. Its one reason why the reported deaths have harshly increased.

Should the Ukraine decide to order its soldiers to stay in Bakhmut the city will be physically encircled. All roads will be blocked not only by fire but by heavily armed Russian checkpoints. The Ukrainian soldiers in Bakhmut, several thousands still seem to be there, will then be left with only two options: surrender or die.

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17 Comments
B_MC
B_MC
March 4, 2023 2:21 pm

Bakhmut is of course of strategic value…That is why the Ukrainian government has send ten thousands of its troops to fight and die for that city.

Larry Johnson agrees….

The Fall of Bakhmut, A Prelude to the Fall of Ukraine?

Russia’s long grind to take the strategically vital city of Bakhmut is nearing it ends, with the clean up and capture of abandoned Ukrainian units still inside the city as the priority tasks for the Russian military. Bakhmut is not as economically important as Mariupol, which fell to the Russians last May, but it is geographically significant. That is why Ukraine fought so desperately to hang on to it and expended the lives of tens of thousands of its soldiers in a vain effort.

But worries….

The fall of Bakhmut is a major blow, not just to Ukraine, but to the United States and NATO. This sets the stage for the West doing something desperate while Russia is content to continue to pulverize what is left of the Ukrainian military.

The Fall of Bakhmut, A Prelude to the Fall of Ukraine?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
March 4, 2023 2:30 pm

That’s how you know they’re winning.

Ken31
Ken31
  hardscrabble farmer
March 4, 2023 9:53 pm

Who is winning?

Meremortal
Meremortal
March 4, 2023 2:43 pm

Funny how Bakhmut was of ultimate importance until it became obvious it will be lost. Now, it’s not so important. How much longer will the USA waste resources and lives on this losing proposition? All this loss over Russia vs Russia Jr.

Euddie
Euddie
  Meremortal
March 4, 2023 4:24 pm

Bakhmut eh?

Let’s stretch this word Bakhmut out a bit eh?

Bakhmut.

Bak hm ut,

Back hm ut,

Back him ut,

Back Him Out.

If Bakhmut means “back him out”, and Putin sees this war as important for restoring order…..then this ‘war’ is just Putin following orders….to back him (Zelensky) out of Ukraine;
This, after TeamuSA pushed Zelensky into office to replace a duly elected Ukraine president who refused laundering requests from the crime family oligarchs.
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Logic provided by SNL:
“Simmer Down Now™” skit.

Dan
Dan
March 4, 2023 3:29 pm

I’ve no military experience whatsoever, but for what it’s worth, my impression is that Russia appears to be trying to maximize Ukie casualties, not just take territory. That is, they could be taking Bakhmut much more quickly if that was the goal, but instead are letting Ukie cannon fodder keep feeding the “meat grinder” we keep hearing about. Gruesome, but fits their stated goal of eliminating Ukraine’s military capability.

Ye Olden Toad
Ye Olden Toad
  Dan
March 4, 2023 3:55 pm

Also demilitarizing NATO and USSA.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Dan
March 6, 2023 12:26 am

Also killing the goyim

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
March 4, 2023 5:16 pm

If there was an referendum election on this tomorrow, I’d vote for more dead Nazis.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  YourAverageJoe
March 6, 2023 12:28 am

Voting and pretending people are nazis, truly the boomer mindset.

zappalives
zappalives
March 4, 2023 5:16 pm

Sounds like bone-o needs to do another cool subway concert over there…..no should turn the tide.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
March 4, 2023 5:27 pm

My sister was upset with me because I told her I was on Russia’s side in this shit.
I told her Russia was a Christian country and it was no longer communist as they themselves outlawed it in 1991, and that she should do a little research on the Minsk Accords.
She said “well they treat their own people like shit, haven’t you read Solzenytzins novels?”
I said sure, but Solzenytzin was mostly referring to Stalins rule…
She says We’ll, what about the Cuban missile crises when Kruschev sent nukes to Cuba and pointed them at us?”
I asked her what nationality Kruschev was, and she said “You know he was a Russian!”
I said “No, he was a Ukrainian”
She ended it all in a huff…saying I was stupid and just trying to pick a fight, just like a typical Russia lover…
I told her that she should stick to being an arts and crafts teacher.

B_MC
B_MC
  YourAverageJoe
March 4, 2023 6:13 pm

If only you could get her to watch the video Ghost posted yesterday with Col. Douglas Macgregor….

(https://youtu.be/nlDLGQadxLk)

Anonymous
Anonymous
  YourAverageJoe
March 4, 2023 9:10 pm

Why do women have such a say?

A CS Lewis once said. ” if the neighbors baseball went through your window” who would be going over to to talk about it?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  YourAverageJoe
March 6, 2023 1:04 am

I fucked up and lost my rant. A screed perhaps. So I’ll keep it short.

The Communist party is #2 in Russia and is not outlawed (also the factions they supported in donetsk and luhansk a decade ago should have clued you in). And 15 upvoters are too dumb to realize this.
Ukraine is technically more christian than Russia despite jews at the top, for whatever that is worth.
Hey, guess what else about kruschev? He let Solzhenitsyn (also half-ukrainian!) publish one of his books.

And be nice to your sister. She may glue popsicle sticks for a living, but she can never care less about you than putin 🙂

It’s time to take a deep breath and stop buying into either side of this shitshow.

Jdog
Jdog
March 4, 2023 7:37 pm

Bakhmut has become a macrocosm for the entire war. A hopeless situation, where assets are pouring in just to be destroyed as fast as they arrive. In the past week, casualties have doubled, not just in Bakhmut, but along the entire front. Now there is idiotic talk about putting the US and Europe on a war time economy to provide ammunition to Ukraine. Of course the idiots proposing this do not seem to realize it would take 2-3 years to get these factories built, equipped, manned, and actually producing ammunition. They do not seem to realize that artillery’s ammunition is not easy to make, and requires a lot of R&D to get right. Every artillery’s piece is designed to work under specific pressures, and unless you have the specifications of the equipment, it has to be pretty much be done by trial and error. Because it is necessary to produce these shells in such quantity the costs are a huge factor. Who is going to pay for these factories? No private firms are going to invest the money to build these factories just to produce shell for a year or two. Even if they did, by the time these factories began producing shells the war will most likely be over.
Military analysts are now estimating the Ukraine army is down to about 200K troops, which means they have less than 100K that can be sent to the lines to actually fight. They are down to conscripting old men, boys, and women.
Once Bakhmut has fallen, the rest of the front line has very serious logistical problems because Bakhmut was the logistical hub for the entire front line. The truth is Ukraine is militarily bankrupt. It is running out of troops, equipment, ammunition, and options. The US and NATO seriously underestimated Russia, and they have found out they cannot support a war on this scale. Now the panic is setting in, and you are hearing all kinds of crazy talk about things that have no chance of happening. I am not sure who the US and NATO think they are fooling, because it certainly is not the Russians…..

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  Jdog
March 5, 2023 6:20 pm

Bakhmut has become a macrocosm for the entire war.

Ya sure about that?
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Or this?

Of course the idiots proposing this do not seem to realize it would take 2-3 years to get these factories built, equipped, manned, and actually producing ammunition
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I mean, you may be right J, but I’m gonna go ahead and assume all the facilities that are needed to manufacture ammunition are not only up and running, but are also looking to expand operations.