If You Believe They Put a Man on the Meme

Submitted by CZ

Via The Secret Sun

My recent post on 2001: A Space Odyssey got me back riding one of my OCD hobbyhorses. And that’s the persistent claims that Stanley Kubrick filmed and photographed the Apollo missions. I think that’s a slander against a great artist’s memory.
Why? Because the Apollo crap is so obviously cheap, flimsy and slapdash that a consummate perfectionist like Kubrick would never have signed off on it. 
Compare the obvious soundstage void that we see in the Apollo astronaughts floating in with Kubrick’s breathtaking lunar vistas. It’s just absurd.

I honestly believe that most sensible people realize it was all a sham but are either too afraid or embarrassed to say so out loud. There are also folks who can’t bring themselves to admit they were fooled, because that invites the question, “what else was I deceived by?”
There’s no shame in being deceived when dealing with a multibillion dollar enterprise stocked with the very best deceivers money can buy. The same goes for Apollo as it does for any other hoax or psyop.
The shame only comes when the truth is pointed out time and again and you continue to buy into weaponized lies concocted by people who hate you and literally want you dead.
With all that in mind, let that beautiful meme footage roll…
IN DEFIANCE OF LOGIC

IT IS TO LAUGH

 

 

 

 

Remember this whole operation was concocted by Nixon and his cronies – along with literal Nazis and Scottish Rite Freemasons – in order to boost patriotism, and more importantly, to take attention away from the ongoing genocide in Vietnam and Indochina in general.
Let it go. Take my word as a former longtime Apollo-gist, you’ll feel a lot better when you do.
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Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
April 2, 2023 3:16 pm

Never in my life did I question the moon landing until this conversation started up on TBP. There is NO DOUBT TBP has attracted many brilliant people. I now question the moon landing.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Glock-N-Load
April 2, 2023 3:16 pm

Flat earth? Not so much.

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  Glock-N-Load
April 2, 2023 3:40 pm

Hollow Earth moar believable, no?

mark
mark
  Glock-N-Load
April 2, 2023 4:16 pm

Donkey,

That’s because you are still confused in the Cosmos…

IF YOU PROMISE TO READ IT I WILL SEND YOU A COPY and end your confusion.

You have my e-mail.

GCP amd BL have read it.

It covers the 666 globe deception from all angles…and many other deceptions as well.

A page turner book.

A scriptural review of Cosmology and Deception unlike anything you’ve ever read. Do you struggle with the complexity of a Most-High Creator, Angels, Demons, Earth and Space? This book will be an eye-opener by enhancing your worldview regarding our true Cosmology and the things that are intentionally hidden from us today. We will rebuild the Cosmos as described from all Biblical references describing the Creation of the Universe, and reveal a new understanding of how it all comes to an end. A great book for the curious and anyone interested in learning the misunderstood aspects of the Bible and other ancient texts!

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  mark
April 2, 2023 5:10 pm

Am I making progress by questioning to landing?

mark
mark
  Glock-N-Load
April 2, 2023 6:05 pm

Well ole buddy at least you are not whistling past the soundstage.

brewer55
brewer55
  Glock-N-Load
April 2, 2023 6:22 pm

I fully understand how you feel. About 11-12 years ago I stumbled upon a Joe Rogan radio program where he was saying the moon landing was fake. I thought he was out in left field. That was then…now I know it was faked.

After being red-pilled, one can never place their head in the sand again.

I read the book Mark linked in his reply. It definitely had me thinking AND, I do not discount the idea any longer. However, and maybe my childhood programming is too ingrained but, I’m not sold on the flat earth theory either.

mark
mark
  brewer55
April 2, 2023 6:33 pm

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Point…counter point…the Truman show was a big tell…just saying guys.

Isaiah 40:22
It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;

Psalm 104:5
He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved.

Revelation 7:1
After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow on earth or sea or against any tree.

Job 26:7
He stretches out the north over the void and hangs the earth on nothing.

Matthew 4:8
Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.

Proverbs 8:27
When he established the heavens, I was there; when he drew a circle on the face of the deep,

Job 26:10
He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness.

Job 37:18
Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a cast metal mirror?

Psalm 93:1
The Lord reigns; he is robed in majesty; the Lord is robed; he has put on strength as his belt. Yes, the world is established; it shall never be moved.

Job 37:3
Under the whole heaven he lets it go, and his lightning to the corners of the earth.

Isaiah 11:12
He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

1 Chronicles 16:30
Tremble before him, all the earth; yes, the world is established; it shall never be moved.

Psalm 102:25
Of old you laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands.

Job 28:24
For he looks to the ends of the earth and sees everything under the heavens.

Job 22:14
Thick clouds veil him, so that he does not see, and he walks on the vault of heaven.’

1 Samuel 2:8
He raises up the poor from the dust; he lifts the needy from the ash heap to make them sit with princes and inherit a seat of honor. For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them he has set the world.

Psalm 75:3
When the earth totters, and all its inhabitants, it is I who keep steady its pillars. Selah

Psalm 19:4-6
Their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy. Its rising is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the end of them, and there is nothing hidden from its heat.

Psalm 19:1
To the choirmaster. A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork.

Isaiah 48:13
My hand laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand spread out the heavens; when I call to them, they stand forth together.

Isaiah 4
I made the earth and created man on it; it was my hands that stretched out the heavens, and I commanded all their host.

Psalm 96:10
Say among the nations, “The Lord reigns! Yes, the world is established; it shall never be moved; he will judge the peoples with equity.”

Job 9:8
Who alone stretched out the heavens and trampled the waves of the sea;

Genesis 1:1-31
In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day. …

Revelation 1:7
Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen.

Isaiah 40:21-22
Do you not know? Do you not hear? Has it not been told you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;

Job 38:13
That it might take hold of the skirts of the earth, and the wicked be shaken out of it?

Joshua 10:12
At that time Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the sons of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, “Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and moon, in the Valley of Aijalon.”

Psalm 136:6
To him who spread out the earth above the waters, for his steadfast love endures forever;

Amos 9:6
Who builds his upper chambers in the heavens and founds his vault upon the earth; who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out upon the surface of the earth— the Lord is his name.

Genesis 1:6
And God said, “Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.”

Daniel 4:10-11
The visions of my head as I lay in bed were these: I saw, and behold, a tree in the midst of the earth, and its height was great. The tree grew and became strong, and its top reached to heaven, and it was visible to the end of the whole earth.

Psalm 18:15
Then the channels of the sea were seen, and the foundations of the world were laid bare at your rebuke, O Lord, at the blast of the breath of your nostrils.

Job 38:4
“Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding.

2 Samuel 22:16
Then the channels of the sea were seen; the foundations of the world were laid bare, at the rebuke of the Lord, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.

Ecclesiastes 1:5
The sun rises, and the sun goes down, and hastens to the place where it rises.

Isaiah 44:24
Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, who formed you from the womb: “I am the Lord, who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself,

Ezekiel 10:1
Then I looked, and behold, on the expanse that was over the heads of the cherubim there appeared above them something like a sapphire, in appearance like a throne.

Genesis 1:2
The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

Isaiah 45:18
For thus says the Lord, who created the heavens (he is God!), who formed the earth and made it (he established it; he did not create it empty, he formed it to be inhabited!): “I am the Lord, and there is no other.

Job 9:6
Who shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble;

Genesis 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the windows of the heavens were opened.

Revelation 20:8
And will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea.

Ezekiel 1:22-26
Over the heads of the living creatures there was the likeness of an expanse, shining like awe-inspiring crystal, spread out above their heads. And under the expanse their wings were stretched out straight, one toward another. And each creature had two wings covering its body. And when they went, I heard the sound of their wings like the sound of many waters, like the sound of the Almighty, a sound of tumult like the sound of an army. When they stood still, they let down their wings. And there came a voice from above the expanse over their heads. When they stood still, they let down their wings. And above the expanse over their heads there was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like sapphire; and seated above the likeness of a throne was a likeness with a human appearance.

Isaiah 2
He who flees at the sound of the terror shall fall into the pit, and he who climbs out of the pit shall be caught in the snare. For the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble.

Genesis 1:14
And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years,

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

Psalm 19:4
Their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun,

Job 22:12
“Is not God high in the heavens? See the highest stars, how lofty they are!

Job 11:9
Its measure is longer than the earth and broader than the sea.

Joshua 10:13
And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.

Matthew 24:29
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

Daniel 4:11
The tree grew and became strong, and its top reached to heaven, and it was visible to the end of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:1
Thus says the Lord: “Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool; what is the house that you would build for me, and what is the place of my rest?

Psalm 65:5
By awesome deeds you answer us with righteousness, O God of our salvation, the hope of all the ends of the earth and of the farthest seas;

Genesis 1:9
And God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear.” And it was so.

Hebrews 1:10
And, “You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of your hands;

Isaiah 42:5
Thus says God, the Lord, who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and what comes from it, who gives breath to the people on it and spirit to those who walk in it:

Luke 4:5
And the devil took him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time,

Daniel 8:10
It grew great, even to the host of heaven. And some of the host and some of the stars it threw down to the ground and trampled on them.

Isaiah 22:18
And whirl you around and around, and throw you like a ball into a wide land. There you shall die, and there shall be your glorious chariots, you shame of your master’s house.

Deuteronomy 4:15-19
“Therefore watch yourselves very carefully. Since you saw no form on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, beware lest you act corruptly by making a carved image for yourselves, in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any animal that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the air, the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the water under the earth. And beware lest you raise your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, you be drawn away and bow down to them and serve them, things that the Lord your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven.

Isaiah 43:6
I will say to the north, Give up, and to the south, Do not withhold; bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the end of the earth,

1 Samuel 2:10
The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken to pieces; against them he will thunder in heaven. The Lord will judge the ends of the earth; he will give strength to his king and exalt the power of his anointed.”

Genesis 1:20
And God said, “Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the heavens.”

Ezekiel 1:26
And above the expanse over their heads there was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like sapphire; and seated above the likeness of a throne was a likeness with a human appearance.

Proverbs 30:4
Who has ascended to heaven and come down? Who has gathered the wind in his fists? Who has wrapped up the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and what is his son’s name? Surely you know!

Psalm 61:2
From the end of the earth I call to you when my heart is faint. Lead me to the rock that is higher than I,

John 17:24
Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world.

Matthew 24:31
And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Habakkuk 3:11
The sun and moon stood still in their place at the light of your arrows as they sped, at the flash of your glittering spear.

Isaiah 38:8
Behold, I will make the shadow cast by the declining sun on the dial of Ahaz turn back ten steps.” So the sun turned back on the dial the ten steps by which it had declined.

Psalm 148:4
Praise him, you highest heavens, and you waters above the heavens!

Joshua 10:12-13
At that time Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the sons of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, “Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and moon, in the Valley of Aijalon.” And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.

Revelation 6:13
And the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale.

Malachi 3:10
Bring the full tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. And thereby put me to the test, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour down for you a blessing until there is no more need.

Isaiah 14:13-14
You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far reaches of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’

Psalm 103:12
As far as the east is from the west, so far does he remove our transgressions from us.

Psalm 59:13
Consume them in wrath; consume them till they are no more, that they may know that God rules over Jacob to the ends of the earth. Selah

Genesis 8:2
The fountains of the deep and the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained,

Psalm 136:7
To him who made the great lights, for his steadfast love endures forever;

Job 38:12-13
“Have you commanded the morning since your days began, and caused the dawn to know its place, that it might take hold of the skirts of the earth, and the wicked be shaken out of it?

Genesis 11:4
Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be dispersed over the face of the whole earth.”

Genesis 1:10
God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:8
And God called the expanse Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, the second day.

Revelation 6:13-16
And the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale. The sky vanished like a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb,

Proverbs 8:29
When he assigned to the sea its limit, so that the waters might not transgress his command, when he marked out the foundations of the earth,

Psalm 22:27
All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the Lord, and all the families of the nations shall worship before you.

Psalm 104:1
Bless the Lord, O my soul! O Lord my God, you are very great! You are clothed with splendor and majesty,

Jonah 2:6
At the roots of the mountains. I went down to the land whose bars closed upon me forever; yet you brought up my life from the pit, O Lord my God.

Jeremiah 51:16
When he utters his voice there is a tumult of waters in the heavens, and he makes the mist rise from the ends of the earth. He makes lightning for the rain, and he brings forth the wind from his storehouses.

Deuteronomy 33:17
A firstborn bull—he has majesty, and his horns are the horns of a wild ox; with them he shall gore the peoples, all of them, to the ends of the earth; they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.”

1 Corinthians 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.

Isaiah 13:13
Therefore I will make the heavens tremble, and the earth will be shaken out of its place, at the wrath of the Lord of hosts in the day of his fierce anger.

Psalm 96:9
Worship the Lord in the splendor of holiness; tremble before him, all the earth!

Psalm 33:13
The Lord looks down from heaven; he sees all the children of man;

Psalm 2:8
Ask of me, and I will make the nations your heritage, and the ends of the earth your possession.

Deuteronomy 28:64
“And the Lord will scatter you among all peoples, from one end of the earth to the other, and there you shall serve other gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your fathers have known.

Psalm 72:8
May he have dominion from sea to sea, and from the River to the ends of the earth!

Luke 17:31
On that day, let the one who is on the housetop, with his goods in the house, not come down to take them away, and likewise let the one who is in the field not turn back.

Even more here: 800 Bible verses say Flat Earth

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  mark
April 2, 2023 7:07 pm

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth

Doesn’t that imply the earth is square?

mark
mark
  Mary Christine
April 2, 2023 8:39 pm

Mary,

What does Revelation 7:1 mean?

NASB
“After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth so that no wind would blow on the earth, or on the sea, or on any tree”.

In this verse the apostle John reports that he saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth (now this is future for us). Just as it is used today, the phrase “four corners of the earth” is not meant to suggest the earth is literally square. It means the angels had taken up positions at the POINTS OF THE COMPASS.

They stood at the north, south, east, and west. They exercised authority to hold back the four winds.

Deeper into contex:

The four winds represent God’s judgment. In His pledge to destroy Elam—another name for Persia—God said, “I will bring upon Elam the four winds from the four quarters of heaven. And I will scatter them to all those winds, and there shall be no nation to which those driven out of Elam shall not come” (Jeremiah 49:36).

Like John, Daniel also saw in a vision the four winds of heaven. He states in Daniel 7:2 that they were “stirring up the great sea,” which meant the Mediterranean Sea. During the four angels’ delay of judgment no wind would arise to shake a tree.

They stood at the north, south, east, and west. They exercised authority to hold back the four winds.

Flat would have north, south, east, and west.

That is my best answer…now I’m not a theologian…but I have snoozed in a lot of Holiday Inns with those pesky Gideon Bibles taking up drawer space.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  mark
April 2, 2023 8:45 pm

(now this is future for us)

It was future for John. I believe most of Revelation is past. It’s all symbolism, Mark. But I will have to dig out the 7 page transcript from that teaching. It might be more than 7. I can’t remember if it was one or more weeks of Sundays. It could be 14 pages.

BL
BL
  Mary Christine
April 2, 2023 8:50 pm

Mark, me and the orange jesus say it is a concave circle within a square. The “rounding the square” Freemason style.

BL
BL
  BL
April 2, 2023 10:53 pm

I was serious, the Bible says it is a square. I don’t care if folks downvote but that is what it says and Freemason esoteric writings back it up.

mark
mark
  BL
April 2, 2023 11:03 pm

Here ya go BL,

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mark
mark
  Mary Christine
April 2, 2023 10:45 pm

Mary,

I’m familar with that view…just don’t hold it.

But that’s all fine I enjoy a good debate and hearning/learning different views.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
April 3, 2023 4:45 pm

For gullible minds only.

Marky
Marky
  Mary Christine
April 2, 2023 9:55 pm

Exactly, He is twisting scripture to support his irrational delusional belief. Wanting it to say something that just isnt there. The bible also says

” there is no God” Psalm 53:1

12 times. The bible says there is no God so it must be true.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
April 3, 2023 4:43 pm

THE BIBLE IS NOT GOD’S WORD. You can quote all the scriptures you want but that doesn’t make it the word of god. The Bible has been used as a tool to deceive and enslave humanity. It’s nothing but a source of religious propaganda to indoctrinate the masses so they can be easily controlled and manipulated.

Paleocon
Paleocon
  mark
April 2, 2023 8:19 pm

I bought the book. Now I am regretting it. The ancients knew the earth was a sphere through simple observations everyone here can make today. I hope there is more to the book than flat earth nonsense.

mark
mark
  Paleocon
April 2, 2023 8:41 pm

Good for you Palecon! Appreciate that good ‘faith’ response.

Look forward to you reading it and a respectfull honest discussion!

Trust me the book more than covers the ‘ANCIENTS’ and their Scientism.

Best to you buddy.

Kerry
Kerry
  Paleocon
April 3, 2023 9:49 am

No Parallax, no spinning, flying globe…

Marky
Marky
  mark
April 2, 2023 9:46 pm

Not one of the 800 say any such thing. Absurd.
Please explain to me how the sun rises and sets over a flat earth. Please show me a diagram depicting the sun rising and setting on a flat earth. Please explain to me why at any given time half the earth is in nighttime and the other half daytime.Its basic logic. If the earth is flat then the whole surface should be daytime at the same time. How can you be so delusional?

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Marky
April 2, 2023 9:48 pm

All been discussed ad nauseam…

Do you internet?

Voltara
Voltara
  mark
April 2, 2023 10:30 pm

The quotes say nothing about the shape of the earth.

Even if they did, who’d have guessed a book written 4,000 years ago when people thought the earth was flat and the centre of the universe would write about the earth being flat the centre of the universe? Amazing stuff!

The Egyptians knew the world was round through observation of the position of shadows in different locations at the same time. The circumference of the earth was used to calculate the dimensions of the great pyramid.

The incredibly well financed and promoted stupidity of the flat earth is clearly a psy-op of the usual suspects to discredit all conspiracy theories.

anonymous
anonymous
  mark
April 3, 2023 6:34 am

Has this dude ever been in an airplane? lol.
The flat earth cake cover belief is quite inventive. I suppose the inquisitions were rightly done and Galileo was an idiot too.
Hint: we have telescopes now…very good ones too.

“He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.” Doesn’t mean the earth is flat.
Job 26:7
Oops….all old ancient maps were flat and …’here there be dragons?’ (rolling eyes here)

From: PSCF 53 (September 2001): 159-169.
A number of young-earth creationists purport to find in Isa. 40:22 and Job 26:7 evidence that the Bible teaches that the earth is spherical. A detailed analysis of key Hebrew words and their translations in ancient and modern versions shows that there is no substantive evidence and thus no warrant for this claim. This analysis is framed in the context of teaching a course in religion and science, and addresses the fundamental question, also explored in the course, of how one should interpret the Bible in the light of scientific knowledge.
Does the Bible Teach a Spherical Earth? (Or a flat one ?)
https://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2001/PSCF9-01Schneider.html

GrungeVet
GrungeVet
  anonymous
April 3, 2023 12:39 pm

“ how one should interpret the Bible in the light of scientific knowledge”

First of all that hermeneutical approach is entirely ass backwards and exactly why we are here as a culture. I’m not trying to interpret God’s Word through man’s fallible knowledge. For the believer, all things are to be tested against the Word of God, not the other way around.

I’ve flown over 1,000 hours at altitudes up to 70,000 ft, well above civilian air traffic. I have flown in a variety of landscapes and environments, from mountain ranges to deserts. I have never seen a demonstrable curvature. Other pilots and aviators will confirm this.

I thought shit like this was kooky a couple years ago too, then I started actually paying attention to my environment.

Goozaaam...
Goozaaam...
  mark
April 3, 2023 8:49 am

Jeezz, if ur gonna publish a book of quotes on here you should be paying admin by the word count for publishing it for you…

KJ
KJ
  mark
April 3, 2023 11:43 am

You’re dumb, mark.

jimmy torpedo
jimmy torpedo
  mark
April 3, 2023 9:24 pm

oh gawd….

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  mark
April 10, 2023 5:17 pm

You are correct, that is exactly why I can’t believe the Bible and more. Not just the whole Mathew 16 issue where Jesus didn’t return in his desciples lifetimes with an Army and his Kingdom. It’s a nice bed time story, definitely interesting , and entertaining, but that’s all it is.

Nevermind evil having won over most the earth for the last two millennia, makes the notion of an all powerful, all knowing , overbearing God, giving out justice to the wicked rather than a vengeful bullet alittle far fetched. If there is a God , they leave us alone, and we are children in a sandbox learning to behave or not to.

mark
mark
  brewer55
April 2, 2023 6:54 pm

But, I guess the globe MAFF be believable…

EXAMPLES of “666” NASA (so called) 666 Science and Globe Model

33: The Earth’s Axis, it’s Orbital Inclination around the Sun is 66.6 Degrees

32: The Earth Orbits the Sun at 66,600 Miles Per Hour

31: The Earth’s Circumference is 600x6x6 Nautical Miles

30: The Speed of Sound is 666 Knots Per Second

29: The Force of Gravity on Earth is 666 Newtons

28: The Curvature of A Square Mile is .666 Feet… in 10 Miles: 66.6 Ft… in 20 Miles:

266.6 Ft… 40M: 1,066.6 Ft… 50M: 1,666 Ft… 70M: 3,266.6 Ft… 80M: 4,266.6 Ft…
100M: 6,666.6Ft… The Heliocentric Curvature Math is Based on 666

27: The Arctic & Antarctic Circles are at exactly 66.6°

26: Astro-Not Peggy Whitson Spent 666 Days in Space

25: The Distance to the Moon is 6 x 60 x 666 Miles

24: The Diameter of the Moon is 6 x 6 x 60 Miles

23: Sunset is Divided by 3 Degrees (6° + 6° + 6°) aka: “Civil, Nautical, and Astronomical Twilight”

22: From Mercury, the Sun is 666 Times Brighter, Using the Inverse Square Law

21: Venus is 464° Celsius or 867° Fahrenheit (The Median of These Two Numbers: 666)

20: Mars is at 1.666 AU (Astronomical Units) from the sun at Aphelion

19: Ceres (Classified as a Dwarf Planet in the Asteroid Belt) Has a 466.6 Day Synodic Period

18: The Comet Shoemaker Levy Collided with Jupiter, Traveling at 6 x 6 x 6 x 1000 Kilometers Per Hour

17: Saturn’s Orbital Distance is 1,426,666,422 Kilometers or 9.54 AU

16: The Surface Temperature of Uranus is: -6x6x6°

15: The Surface Temperature of Neptune is: -6x6x6°

14: Pluto’s Orbital Velocity is 4.666 Kilometers Per Second

13: NASA’s Budget is $18 Billion (6+6+6)

12: The Speed of Light is 670,616,`629 MPH. The Middle Number 616, Some have Claimed Is the Accurate Number of the Beast, instead of 666. The Common Rounded Form… 670,000,000 x .6 x .6 x .6 is also interesting… 144,720,000, because 144 and 72 are Important Biblical Numbers (144,000 Elect and 72 Steps of Jacob’s Ladder to Heaven aka the Stars) 144 Cubits is 216 Feet (6 x 6 x 6)

11: Saturn’s Hexagonal Pole is a 6 sided, 6 pointed Polygon Representing a Cube Containing 6 Triangles (A Hex), and it is the 6th planet

10: A Day is 23 Hours and 56 Minutes, but We Round it to 60 Seconds, 60 Minutes, and 24 Hours (& 2+4 in Numerology is 6), Because Father Time is Saturn aka Cronos (or Crono-logy) the Greco-Roman God of Time, Chaos, and Death

09: Kepler’s 3rd Law Calculates a Planet’s Mean Distance From the Sun, giving the Planet’s Orbital Period Raised to the Power of .666666

08: On the Globe model, the Distance From the Tip of South America, to the Tip of Africa, is 6,660 Kilometers

07: North America is 66.66° Wide on a Globe – from The Furthest Tip to the Other (Key Largo, Florida, to Yesterday Island, Alaska)

06: Eurasia On the Globe Model, From the Lighthouse in Cape St. Vincent, Portugal, Straight Across to the other side of the land mass at the Haicang Bridge in China, 6,066 Nautical Miles

05: South America, on the Globular Map, From the Northern Most Point to the Southern Most Point, is 66.6° Long, and the Line Passes directly Through the continent’s Highest Peak, Mt. Aconcagua

04: On The Globular Map, Africa is 66.6° Wide From its Western Most Point in Dakar to the Easternmost Projection of Somalia. Forming a perfect cross, it is 66.6° High From its Southernmost Point to the Place Where the Line Running due North Hits the Mediterranean, near Benghazi

03: The Logos of Both Google’s GPS system through Chrome and CERN, Both of Which Work With NASA, We Find 666 hidden in plain sight

02: Switzerland Company Maxon Motors Provided the Electrodrives that Power NASA’s Spirit and Opportunity Rovers on Mars. You can contact them at +41 (41) 666 15 00 by phone or +41 (41) 666 16 16 by Fax

01: Earthlings and Life Itself are Made of Carbon, Which has 6 Protons, 6 Neutrons, and 6 Electrons. Revelations 13:16 “And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead.”

(NASA: Number of man, Bible: Number of A man).

All of these point that modern science is lie to HIDE GOD.

Brewer55
Brewer55
  mark
April 2, 2023 7:11 pm

10-4, Mark. It’s why I stated that the book was compelling and thought provoking. Scripture could certainly be interpreted to support the flat earth theory. But, it is still interpretation. I do not see a smoking gun, at least for me so, for now at least, that’s where I stand on the subject.

mark
mark
  Brewer55
April 2, 2023 8:49 pm

I disagree with you buddy on the interpretation fudge…I see smoking M’60’s.

What do you think about all the Globe Maff…funny how the opposite of God’s word leads into in your face maff deception.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  mark
April 3, 2023 10:12 am

Get in a plane and fly from S America to Australia. Either you can or can’t in an easily calculated time frame.

I find it amazing that the flat earthers REFUSE to even try to dispel this by an actual test THEY can do. But then its easier to quote some wingnuts books and claim its true and make copious excuses for not getting on a plane.

This flat earth proven by the bible is pure BS, its in the same category of nasa proving Joshua’s longest day by their computer simulations. But believe what you want.

Zero rationale in any of the flat earth rubbish.

KJ
KJ
  mark
April 3, 2023 11:45 am

You’re even dumber than I thought, mark.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
April 3, 2023 11:50 am

Arrogance, ignorant certainty, self delusion and comprehension issues.

God I hate religotards. So sure THEY are correct and everyone else is wrong.

Jim
Jim
  mark
April 3, 2023 9:26 pm

Mark, you live in a bizarre world where you read into the scripture to suit your purpose. Those numbers are all made up to fit the formula. Get some education, buddy. Self education using one book leads to ignorance as is evident in your citations.

ken31
ken31
  mark
April 2, 2023 5:31 pm

By Miguel Stephano? If I don’t struggle with those things, is this book still for me?

mark
mark
  ken31
April 2, 2023 6:03 pm

Ken,

YES!

The Subtitle is ‘Decoding the Deception’.

This is from the first page:

A Scriptural Review of Cosmology and Deception

“If I told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?
John 3:12 NASB

Do you think you know what the Bible teaches when describing the Cosmos?

CONFUSION: Lack of understanding, uncertainty. The state of being bewildered or unclear in one’s mind about something.

COSMOS: The universe seen as a well ordered whole.

COSMOLOGY: The philosophy dealing with the origin and general structure of the universe. The theory or doctrine describing its natural order.

DEDICATION
This book is dedicated to every person that has been deceived regarding the entire Cosmos since birth. Yes, it’s true; we have all been punked. NOW is the time to start waking each other up in order to see the reality of our Cosmos as it was literally created and to find out what the elites have been trying to hide by doing so…

I have read it 3 times…it is a powerful book as it confirmed all my suspicions on this subject …but goes much deeper on Creation…but most important on the CREATOR.

This book ended my quest to find the truth on this subject. It put the long laughable moon landing deception it is proper perspective.

The author and I are having a second e-mail exchange at this time…I have sent him this link…I hope he pops in?

ken31
ken31
  mark
April 2, 2023 8:43 pm

It sounds interesting but I may be content to let the Lord reveal it all after I die.

mark
mark
  ken31
April 2, 2023 11:26 pm

Gotcha ken,

Until then…check this out buddy…

THE BIBLICAL FLAT EARTH & FOUR CORNERS OF CREATION
by Noel Joshua Hadley | Mar 27, 2017
Flat Earth | Uncategorized

THE BIBLE IS THE MOST ACCURATE HISTORICAL and geographical document ever written, so why is its worldwide congregation of subscribers plagued with cognitive dissonance when it comes to what we can read for ourselves contrasted with what our pastors and church leaders are telling us from the pulpit? I’m going to draw a line in the sand. Either the Bible is true or it’s not. I’m not anyone’s judge. God alone is judge. But the Scripture states it plainly. If any of you claim the Bible is the inspired and breathed revelation of God Almighty and you advertise yourself as a man of God; I’m looking specifically at you church leadership and Pastors, then pick and choose what you’ll take literally at your own peril.

“Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.” James 3:1

The Spirit of the LORD is calling to his beloved. He knows who his children are, and he’s waking them up in droves. Again, I’m not anyone’s judge. God knows who His children are, and I don’t. But I do know the blinders are being lifted. This is a world-wide movement of the Spirit. He’s revealing to his children the lie that now is, perhaps because our time is short. And all I can do is gently nudge. However, if I sound feverishly fundamental about this, it’s because I see no other truth.

Laugh if you will, but this is another reformation. We’re not only reading and re-discovering the Bible for what it really says of God’s creation, but we’re observing with our very eyes that the earth is clearly not, and never has been, globe-shaped. Or as NASA now calls it, pear-shaped. Please, show me the curve. Go to Kansas and explain away the fact that an entire state is literally flat as a pancake. Show me one example where the surface of water can defy all observable tests and become arched with that curve. No, not on a chalkboard, not in some mathematical equation that only a handful of insider Elites claim to understand. We’re being tripped up by biologists, geologists, astronomers, PhD’s, and even the theologians. Please do your research and see for yourself that, for roughly four-hundred years, the church has been deceived, and in order to please the institutions of men we’ve willingly lapped it up. God is not a liar, and even now in the 21st century, His word remains true.

“But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.” 1 Corinthians 1:27

I once watched a Christian Darwinist sitting down in front of his Bible and repeating, almost as a mantra: “This can’t be what it’s really saying! This can’t be what it’s really saying!”

I’m sorry to break the news. But it’s really saying that.

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THE BIBLICAL FLAT EARTH

Does the Bible actually say the Earth is flat? I think so, sort of. Maybe. In Revelation 20:9, when speaking of Satan’s final assault on the people of God, it says: “They (Satan and the deceived) marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.”

In the Greek, the actual word used for breadth is “platos.” Think plateau in French. The NAS Bible actually translates this as: “And they came up on the broad plain of the earth.” Either way, pick this apart all you want, I’m confident you’ll find in the whole of scripture that there’s one common theme, as the breadth of the earth is concerned, a geocentric one.

If you’ve been following my series so-far on THE BIBLICAL FLAT EARTH, I’ve been going to scripture to help illustrate how the scribes and the prophets who wrote our Bible, starting with Moses and ending with John, saw creation, as revealed to them by their creator. It’s geocentric. There is not one justifiable passage of scripture that gives credence to the Darwinian or Copernican gods of science. Rather, the Hebrews saw creation as an enclosed system: fixed in place, set on pillars, with a solid firmament over our heads. The sun, moon, and stars were below the firmament, with water above it, – heaven too. You can read about them here.

1. The Biblical Flat Earth & the Firmament

2. The Biblical Flat Earth & Heaven’s Place Above the Firmament

3. The Biblical Flat Earth & Waters Above the Firmament

In today’s entry, The Biblical Flat Earth & the Four Corners of Creation, I’ll be outlining scripture that reaffirm the Hebrew’s belief in an earth that was immovable, set in place, fixed on its foundations, and with four literal corners, not endless directions on a globe. I’m simply going to lay out the scripture, because I believe it’s self-explanatory. I can’t stress this enough. God is not a relativist when it comes to our perspective, and He does not lie.

“But Noel….But the scientific method, but human wisdom, but the degree I’ve proudly framed on my wall, but you’re not a PhD, but you need scientists to interpret the Bible for you, but, but, but, but…..”

No more buts. I’m tired of your buts. They smell. As a church, and as individual disciples, who are we putting our faith in, man or God?

The LORD will not bring His servants to shame. Stand upon His Word as your foundation. And though the world will most certainly mock you, and though you may stand alone in your church congregation, He will lift you up.

CLICK ON TO ENLARGE

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THE EARTH HAS PILLARS, AND IS SET ON FOUNDATIONS. IT IS FIXED IN PLACE, AND CANNOT BE MOVED

“And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.” Joshua 10:13

“He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and he hath set the world upon them.” 1 Samuel 2:8

“And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the Lord, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.” 2 Samuel 22:16

“Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.” 1 Chronicles 16:30

“Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.” Isaiah 38:8

“For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.” Isaiah 45:18
“Then the channels of waters were seen, and the foundations of the world were discovered at thy rebuke, O Lord, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils.” Psalm 18:15

“The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved: I bear up the pillars of it. Selah.” Psalm 75:3

“The Lord reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the Lord is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is established, that it cannot be moved.” Psalm 93:1

“9 O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness: fear before him, all the earth. 10 Say among the heathen that the Lord reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously. 11 Let the heavens rejoice, and let the earth be glad; let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof.” Psalm 96: 9-11

5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed forever. 6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains. 7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away. 8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them. 9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.” Psalm 104: 5-9

“27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: 28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: 29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth.” Proverbs 8: 27-29

“Father, I desire that they also, whom thou hast given me, may be with me where I am, to behold my glory which thou hast given me in thy love for me before the foundation of the world.” John 17:24

Its been a Flat Earth/Bo Polny or Baloney kinda evening…I’m exhausted, time to lay down on my flat bed and and saw some flat logs…

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  mark
April 10, 2023 5:12 pm

There is no flat earth.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Glock-N-Load
April 2, 2023 5:22 pm

yet

ken31
ken31
  Glock-N-Load
April 2, 2023 5:27 pm

I honestly don’t even care anymore.

brewer55
brewer55
  ken31
April 2, 2023 6:24 pm

The reality is; it is not a salvation issue and I’m not straining my brain to either accept, or deny, the world is flat. With the Lord, anything is possible. I’ll leave it up to Him and, I’ll find out when I get to the other side.

Guest
Guest
  brewer55
April 2, 2023 8:02 pm

It is a salvation issue.

Brewer55
Brewer55
  Guest
April 2, 2023 8:29 pm

You need to re-read your Bible, specifically the gospels.

Guest
Guest
  Guest
April 3, 2023 8:46 am

When an agnostic etc. start to realize that the sun may move, and not the earth and further there is probably an actual firmament above they really begin to think of a creator. Many have become Christians through this.

Additionally evolution drew many, many away.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Guest
April 3, 2023 5:37 pm

Godly creation and evolution are both frauds. We’re the product of an advanced race of beings called the Elohim (plural) in the bible, falsely translated as God by the church. In other ancient civilizations they go by different names, according to their languages. They made all life forms in the world through genetic engineering. They made us in their image and likeness but as a slave class. They live in the wholeness of reality, but relegated us to a very narrow band of the spectrum of reality. We were made to be exploited, nothing else. This is why we only come here to work for their system our entire lives, and very importantly, produce a new generation of slaves for the farm. The only reason for sex. As soon as you raise the new slaves, the process of self destruction genetically programmed into our cells, kicks into high gear because you’re no longer needed. That’s it. Generation after generation. This has been going on for who knows how many thousands of years.

In the mean time, since we were made in their image and likeness with the capacity to think, they’ve had no resort but to deceive us in many different ways. Just like a magician does, they hide stuff from us and also indoctrinate us with all kinds of false teachings and religious propaganda. Since ancient times they have used an elite class of humans to help them manage the herd. In the past they were the priestly and royal classes. In our modern day, the political and corporate classes have been added to their arsenal.

That’s why everything of importance in this world is a lie. All the institutions of society are corrupt to the core and exist for the sole purpose of keeping humanity enslaved. Like Charles Fort used to say, the earth is a farm. We’re someone else’s property. This is backed up by thousands of years of human history and our own lives today. Everything else is pure BS to deceive, distract, and most important of all, divide. For they know better than anyone else, that united we stand but divided we fall.

ken31
ken31
  brewer55
April 2, 2023 8:44 pm

I agree, Brewer55.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  brewer55
April 3, 2023 5:01 pm

Sorry to burst your bubble but there’s no other side. Even the bible says that when you die your thoughts do perish. (Psa 146:4, Eccl 9:6).

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Glock-N-Load
April 2, 2023 9:00 pm

grasshopper, when you can take the pebble from my hand, it will be time for you to leave.

the erf looked round from the moon photos, right?

i am still a round erf guy – its the champagne that is flat

PSBindy
PSBindy
  Glock-N-Load
April 2, 2023 10:08 pm

Glock, many flat earthers came to that position by doing research to disprove the flattards.

After all EVERYBODY KNOWS the Earth is a rotating sphere, orbiting the sun, which itself is a mediocre yellow hydrogen ball of no distinction in a vast universe of other stars and clusters of stars that poofed into existence thirteen billion years ago.

The scientific theories and pencil on paper calculations prove it’s so!

And if the three and a half billion years of Earth’s existence does not allow enough time for the mathematical insanity of non living material to just flop into life, we add “pan spermia” ie ‘we came from an older elsewhere’ and now our pencil and paper calculations are correct!

Until they aren’t.

Well then, we must have ‘multiverse’ wherein many, perhaps an infinity of universes allow enough time for mud to become living. Apparantly the multiverse can be somewhat proven by putting a cat in a box. I don’t understand all that, but it IS scientifical.

Hooray! ‘We’re back to being scientifical!

Until we’re not.

It seems there isn’t enough matter in the universe to provide the gravity needed to describe what is observable.

Oh wait! There MUST be ‘dark matter’ and ‘dark energy’ and now, by inserting these elements into our pencil and paper calculations we once again solve the equation and we’re back to being scientifical.

Boy! That’s a relief!

You DO want to be scientifical don’t you? I mean everybody KNOWS. And we also know “they” would never lead us wrong. We can trust the X spurts. It’s not as if they have an agenda or a position of high status to protect. No one has less status than a flattard.

There’s plenty more. And it turns up all hole and no doughnut.

Uturn
Uturn
  Glock-N-Load
April 2, 2023 10:33 pm

If you can read these sites for 1/2 hour and not have your eyes opened to the Flat Earth possibility you are truly asleep. No one really knows if it’s a plane or how big it is- maybe it’s Turdles all the way down. But it sure ain’t a ball.

For the Christians out there:

No ball earth speeding in space is why they can’t go to the moon or anywhere else in space.

I’ve read TBP everyday for years and while there is some interesting articles here they mostly just touch one or two layers deep of the deception. Few even break through the Uniparty deception let alone the deep deceptions. You might as well tackle the FE deception because most others are built on that one.

But be warned- you really won’t be able to relate to the normies after you open that door. No going back.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  Glock-N-Load
April 2, 2023 5:21 pm

Ahh grasshopper, you have done well.

The Apollo program was the happy face that the MIC put on its trillion dollar intercontinental ballistic missile system. ISS is the same thing as before but to deploy nukes orbiting the planet to deliver an EMPs first strike that will knock out all “enemy” ICBM capability.

I can only imagine the Dr. Strangelove kind of shit their gonna cook up with the “manned mission to Mars”. Still counting on Mankind’s ignorance of geophysics and that van Allen Belt.

World War Zero
World War Zero
  ICE-9
April 2, 2023 6:38 pm

Wasted some years at Redstone Arsenal, open secret there. Now S.D.I., that was epic GDP suck and GS flim-flammery.

Apollo, at least, built some tourist worthy souvenirs 🙂

ken31
ken31
  Glock-N-Load
April 2, 2023 5:27 pm

I remember at least believing in it when that Depeche Mode song came out, because Depeche Mode are faggots. Turns out that so are NASA.

Cricket
Cricket
  ken31
April 2, 2023 6:35 pm

Do you mean REM’s ‘Man on the Moon’ ?

Depeche Mode is totally straight 🙂

ken31
ken31
  Cricket
April 2, 2023 8:45 pm

Yes. Sorry about naming the wrong faggots, but that’s who I was thinking of.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 2, 2023 3:31 pm

” NASA Mooned America ” by Rene’

The lander foot sits on the Moon ‘ soil ‘ nice and clean, even though it should be covered with dust from landing due to engine exhaust.
Even before I really questioned the landing, my mind somehow knew that they could never get out of the hatch with that giant backpack on. Same on 9 / 11. My eyes and brain knew the pictures of ground zero looked off somehow. The lower external walls & beams were splayed out but still standing. A man in the picture gives scale.

The debris pile should have been a hundred feet high or more.

” Where Did The Towers Go ” by Dr Judy Wood

CCRider
CCRider
April 2, 2023 3:33 pm

Just think of the normal advancement of technology. Fifty years after Bell invented the phone there was a phone hanging on the wall of almost every kitchen in America. Fifty years after The Wrights took their 1st flight jet planes were breaking the sound barrier. Besides beyond inventing killing machines when did government ever do anything that groundbreaking?

Boogie
Boogie
April 2, 2023 3:33 pm

So, your saying they’ve been lying to us? I’m shocked I tell ya, just shocked.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 2, 2023 3:34 pm

The next question is , where did all that money go ?

brewer55
brewer55
  Anonymous
April 2, 2023 6:26 pm

All those D.U.M.B. military bases all over the continent and I guess, the world.

Anon
Anon
April 2, 2023 3:36 pm

But “muh diversity” will be tramping around on the lunar surface in no time soon.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11920921/NASA-unveil-moon-crew-50-years-tomorrow.html

Voltara
Voltara
  Anon
April 2, 2023 4:31 pm

Where it usually goes… into killing people, in this case in Vietnam

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
April 2, 2023 3:44 pm

Auntie insists, again, and also not wanting to sound redundant or anything, but Rammstein still sez it best:

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 2, 2023 3:44 pm

Hubble and Earth telescopes can see billions of miles into space. But we can’t see the lander parts left on the Moon because , reasons.

anonymous
anonymous
  Anonymous
April 2, 2023 4:09 pm

National Security.
lol.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
April 2, 2023 7:55 pm

You can already see a lot more than “billions of miles” into space with your naked eye. It has nothing to do with distance and everything to do with magnification. I take it you didn’t take any college physics or you would know that there is a resolution limit (Rayleigh criterion) for any telescope based on the diameter of the aperture.

PSBindy
PSBindy
  Anonymous
April 3, 2023 11:03 am

Nony, how do you know those points of light we see are billions of miles away?

CT Ginger
CT Ginger
April 2, 2023 3:56 pm

If it was faked why didn’t the Russians fake one? Or the Chinese?

anonymous
anonymous
  CT Ginger
April 2, 2023 4:09 pm

They were all to busy rofl their asses off at the American hoax, too stupid to be believed….but people did.

mark
mark
  CT Ginger
April 2, 2023 4:09 pm

Simple…The Whore of Babylon Bankster Fake Jews who controlled/control us and West then and now are much bigger fakes then those two emerging Beasts….

ken31
ken31
  CT Ginger
April 2, 2023 5:34 pm

There are certain lies none of them want revealed, so they appear to accept some lies so that they may possibly capitalize on them in the future – is the best I have come up with.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  CT Ginger
April 10, 2023 5:33 pm

Those with the balls to do it first win the day. They’d just get called copycats or fakers. Russians still claim they were the fitst to put a man in space, can we verify that they did?

Bill
Bill
April 2, 2023 4:09 pm

I will never buy your syrup because of you promulgating this stupidity. For example the rover folded, duh, you can find videos and engineering drawings if you got off your duff. Do you think rockets are real?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Bill
April 2, 2023 4:09 pm

If you made syrup.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Bill
April 2, 2023 4:22 pm

Your powers of observation have been duly noted, Bill.

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  hardscrabble farmer
April 2, 2023 5:05 pm

Bill still likes Aunt Jemyma’s ersatz maple syrup made with high-fructose corn syrup, Aspartame and other chemical shyte. Yum yum and the neurotoxins are swell.

ken31
ken31
  hardscrabble farmer
April 2, 2023 5:36 pm

Are you sold out yet?

PSBindy
PSBindy
  hardscrabble farmer
April 2, 2023 11:30 pm

I try to be a peace bringer here, Hardscrabble.

I think the man is just concerned that maybe you didn’t wash your feet before you stomped the juice out of your maples.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Bill
April 2, 2023 5:11 pm

Too bad, Bill. Best syrup I’ve ever had.

cz
cz
  Bill
April 2, 2023 6:55 pm

dear Bill,
i submitted this article to admin, not HF.
i buy his syrup, i don’t make it.
not sure why you or anyone for that matter takes these things personally. these events are not ours to defend.
there is much to learn/re-learn.

mark
mark
  Bill
April 3, 2023 12:04 pm

So I investigated, researched and found I was taught complete and total lies about:

1. Pearl Harbor

2. The JFK hit

3. The RFK hit

4. The MLK hit

5. The CIA

6. The Tolkien Gulf Incident

7. The Vietnam War

8. The US Liberty attack and act of war by Israel

9. The fake moon landing

10. Evolution

11. The FED (that is not Federal and has no reserves) and its fiat slavery system I live under

12. 911

13. The Media

14. The Iraq War

15. The Afghanistan War

16. The War on Drugs

17. The War on Poverty

18. Everything about NASA including the Space Station

19. The Covid Con

20. The Bio Weapon Jabs

21. The Yada, Yada, Yada

But I’m supposed to believe NASA has all this 666 maff and CGI pictures to prove the earth is a globe!!!

A MUST SEE!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
April 3, 2023 12:13 pm

And yet you believe what some holy cross dressers tell you about how to interpret what some ancient barely literate, probably stoned on Ergot, goat herders wrote down, 100+ years after the supposed fact?

Interesting. And bizarre.

Undeniable
Undeniable
April 2, 2023 4:18 pm

Kubrick would never have signed off on it.

He never did. That’s the point. Why would he? And yet he left between 911 and 2001 shining revelations of secret alchemy for those with eyes wide shut.

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Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Undeniable
April 2, 2023 5:25 pm

Gorgeous photo of the twin towers.

Pate Ree Itact
Pate Ree Itact
  Svarga Loka
April 2, 2023 7:54 pm

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  Svarga Loka
April 2, 2023 9:10 pm

So, is the lil’ dude screaming down the hotel hallways on a Bigwheel while uttering “redruM” the icon for Building 7?

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Anonymous
April 3, 2023 6:02 am

No idea. But did you know that the girls were not twins in the book, but sisters, about 2 years apart in age?

There must be a reason to change the plot for the movie, right? Or is it all a coincidence and Kubrick really couldn’t care less about those minute details. I bet he was the kind of guy that would just let his production interns decide while he was busy flirting with the makeup artist. So the intern also came up with that Apollo moon sweater.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
April 2, 2023 4:28 pm

How many times have you been forced in the corporate world to sign off on something or hand something in before it was ready (not meeting your own high standards) because there was a deadline or some other reason. That can easily explain Kubricks poor quality workmanship.

brewer55
brewer55
  Svarga Loka
April 2, 2023 6:29 pm

Exactly. They made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
April 2, 2023 4:32 pm

And I’m over here waiting for people to realize nuclear weapons don’t exist either.

Kerry
Kerry
  Stephanie Shepard
April 3, 2023 10:14 am

Where did all that scary radiation go after the bomb? Chernobyl looks like normal today…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Kerry
April 3, 2023 5:55 pm

And so do Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Turns out they were firebombed not nuked.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 2, 2023 4:34 pm

incomplete, without at least one of these…

ken31
ken31
April 2, 2023 5:37 pm

That was lol.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
April 2, 2023 5:40 pm

Please post a pic of the thighs otherwise I’m calling bullshit.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Abigail Adams
April 2, 2023 6:06 pm

Funniest person in the room – check

Now, how can we check off the other items? Probably falls under the traditional heading too, I suppose.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Abigail Adams
April 2, 2023 6:14 pm

You sound like a fabulist.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Abigail Adams
April 2, 2023 6:15 pm

You wouldn’t be catfishing us now, would you??

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Abigail Adams
April 2, 2023 6:50 pm

Busted.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Abigail Adams
April 2, 2023 8:17 pm

This is a family-friendly site, my dear.

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Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Abigail Adams
April 2, 2023 9:22 pm

I once researched my ancestry and made a family tree to 1620.

It was very interesting to see how modern transportation led to mingling of a society. Up until my parents’ generation, all the ones before that (1600s to 1950s), they all married within their small village of less than 500. Also, I tried to record their birthdays, dates of death and occupation: farm hand, farm hand farm hand etc for hundreds of years. No land ownership until 1912. Our family still talks about what an unbelievable accomplishment it was for them to buy a piece of land, build a house on it and thus lay the foundation for our prosperity before wars destroyed everything including the currency.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Svarga Loka
April 2, 2023 9:36 pm

No land until 1912?? Sorry, Svarga. Archie’s family would have nothing to do with you.

No worries, though. I’m in the same boat as you.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Abigail Adams
April 2, 2023 9:40 pm

Nope. Poor as a church mouse and “farm hand” is basically short for “indentured servant”.

He doesn’t need us anyway. Has photos of waitress thighs who is probably a flat earther. And what “dinner” means…I don’t even want to know.

cz
cz
April 2, 2023 7:05 pm

April 1st marked the deadline to be part of the current crop of nasa astro-superexplorers:

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
April 2, 2023 9:15 pm

Back when I used to go on business trips, I liked to chat with taxi drivers, since they sometimes have interesting stories and at the very least they know the good restaurants where the locals go.

In Florida circa 2005, one of them told me that he was a hobby pilot and he asked me whether I thought the weather was odd, and that he thought they were spraying stuff. I thought he was crazy then.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Svarga Loka
April 2, 2023 9:28 pm

I chat with no one. I prefer to be left alone. I can sense stupid from a mile away.

goat
goat
  Svarga Loka
April 3, 2023 12:48 am

Yeah, they can’t have peasants getting to uppity thinking they are beyond their station. What gets me is here most people have giving all that freedom up of owning property so they can show they have a pretty yard.
“Yeah man, we are going to America so we can own our own property so we can mow the grass 3 times a week.”
Don’t worry though, they think even that is to uppity.

BillRI
BillRI
April 3, 2023 12:20 am
Anonymous
Anonymous
April 3, 2023 10:51 am

Yet, no actual evidence. Just more photo-shopped images and CGI provided by those who still believe the Moon is like the Sun, planets and stars. Suspended by wires from the Sky Dome, which rests on the North Pole and on the Great Ice Wall of Antarctica, protected by the US Navy from the public, as described in Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Job, Isaiah, Ezekiel, and a few other places. All because their book of fantasies says it must be so.

Thank you for proving beyond all doubt that those who believe Apollo/Saturn never went to the Moon are definitely in need of brain replacement surgery. Thankfully, Elon Musk has a system in place where they will be the first to have entire nano-SBC units installed inside their heads while they sleep, completely unaware of what happened. The best part is they will believe they don’t have any additional electronics inside their heads because the programming will not allow them to have this awareness. They will believe any brain surgery that happened was just a screw-ball dream or their gods were speaking to them directly. In fact, many of them will eventually start to believe that the nano-SBC inside their defective brain is one or more of their gods speaking to them directly.

mark
mark
April 3, 2023 12:31 pm

WARNING DEEP DIVE!!!

Random63
Random63
April 4, 2023 11:43 am

Worked as a technician in the space program for several years. All I can say, seriously dude? It happened. Deal with it.

cz
cz
  Random63
April 4, 2023 12:19 pm

wow, great argument. i guess that settles it. you should’ve chimed in earlier to set everyone straight.

bauls
bauls
  Random63
April 4, 2023 5:53 pm

not concerned about flat earth vs sphere, but quite certain we never went to the moon, at least the 1st”time” mayby later to drop stuff off if someone else went, but we will find out soon once china gets there

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
April 10, 2023 5:11 pm

I love the memes, they explain it so much better than I could before being rudely interrupted midsentence by the numsculls of today . Truth my brother.