Guest Post by Martin Armstrong
For whatever reason, people have tried to claim that Cleopatra was black. That is the most absurd proposition that distorts history beyond belief. When Alexander the Great died, his empire was split among his generals. Egypt went to General Ptolomey. There was perhaps a sense of prejudice by the Greeks against those that they conquered which did not turn simply on skin color. Adding to this, there was a custom in Egypt among all classes in society that you were very fortunate to have a sister to marry for that was one means of keeping the wealth in the family. A 2015 study of even the royalty of Egypt which predated Ptolemy shows that there was extensive inbreeding among the ancient Egyptian royalty.
The inbreeding among the Pharaohs of Egypt was usually done to emulate the god Osiris who married his sister Isis. Ramses II married his own daughter Meritamen. He did have other wives, who were related and some way, and there was also a wife for political purposes being a foreign royalty. It is also believed that Hatesphut’s mother was possibly her half-sister. Interestingly, inbreeding was also because women carried the royal bloodlines so the man was advantaged to marry the most royal woman he could, often a close relative – hence a man was very fortunate to have a sister. Thus, this inbreeding, consanguinity, was well documented. According to Smithsonian magazine, Egyptian law, and tradition “decreed that pharaohs marry their sisters. Cleopatra married her oldest brother after the death of her father, and she married her youngest brother after the death of her first brother.” When Julius Caesar showed up, Cleopatra VII was married to her younger brother Cleopatra, now married to her brother Ptolemy XIV, was restored to her throne after Ptolemy XIII drowned in the Nile. Ptolemy XIV died in 44 BC and her co-ruler became her infant son, Ptolemy XV Caesar – often known as the son of Caesar called Caesarian.
The whole taboo of inbreeding came from the Romans – not the Greeks. Roman civil law forbade couples from marrying if they were within four degrees of consanguinity. From the mid-9th century AD, the church even raised this limit to the seventh degree and the method of calculating degrees was also changed. Without question, incest in Egyptian culture was in fact (1) mimicking the Greek gods, and (2) among the wealthy, to retain the wealth within the family.
The coinage of the era reflects the portraits of the various rulers and they are highly accurate. The engravers had images of the person to work from. A collector can immediately recognize the person before even reading that caption on the coinage.
We can easily see the resemblance between Cleopatra to the surviving sculpture. We can see from the coinage and the bust of Mark Antony the depiction of his curly hair.
Here is another coin of Marck Antony and Octavian, the heir of Caesar. Once again we see the curly hair. The portraits on the coinage reflect accurate images of the people concerned.
This is a bronze drachm of Egypt depicting Cleopatra VII. We can once more easily see how the portrait reflects the true image of Cleopatra.
JUBA II was King of MAURETANIA and the son of King Juba I of Numidia. His father had supported Pompey against Caesar in Africa and continued to support the Pompeians even after the death of Pompey. Following Caesar’s victory, Juba I fled to Zama after the Battle of Thapsus where he had a slave kill him. But his son, Juba II, was taken to Rome in 46 BC as a child, following the death of his father. There he lived under the protection of both Caesar and Octavian while he was educated in Roman tradition. He was extremely intelligent and quickly gained the reputation for being one of the most learned men in the world. He became an early supporter of Octavian in his war against Marc Antony and Cleopatra. In 30 BC, following Octavian’s conquest of Egypt, Juba was married to Cleopatra, the daughter of Marc Antony and the Egyptian Queen Cleopatra. Here again, is a coin depicting his mother-in-law.
Juba’s marriage to the daughter of Cleopatra and Marc Antony was clearly political in nature. We can see the resemblance in her portrait on this denarius from MAURETANIA. Octavian sought a means by which he could stabilize Africa. Octavian, therefore, sent the prince to rule his own people. In 25 AD, however, Octavian, now known as Augustus (27BC-14AD), traded him Mauretania for Numidia, which had long been a source of gold for the Egyptians. Juba held Mauretania, including Gaetulia, as a loyal client of Rome. His reign was noted for its intellectualism and for Juba’s reliance upon Rome to keep the throne in the face of public unrest.
There are clearly Greek coins depicting black Africans. While everyone asserts that the oldest profession is prostitution, the second oldest is not lawyers to make sure the prostitutes get paid, but soldiers-for-hire are also known as Mercenaries. There were black mercenaries who served in many wars. We know from contemporary accounts that the barbarians of the North were fearsome. These Celtic Mercenaries were hired by Egypt during the reign of the ethnically Greek Ptolemaic dynasty. Celtic Mercenaries became a part of Egypt’s official army. During the reign of Ptolemy III Euergetes, Celtic Mercenaries played a very decisive role in conquering Syria as well as Judea. The Greek historian Polybius tells us that many Celtic Mercenaries actually settled in Egypt and took Egyptian or Greek wives. The Greeks saw them as a mixed race and referred to their offspring as e pigovoi.
We also know from Herodotus that he visited Egypt during the 5th century BC. He made it clear that the Greeks were one of the first groups of foreigners that ever lived there. Egyptian painting show white, brown, and black races. It is amazing that people would distort history to insist that Cleopatra was black when the Ptolemy line was Greek and they certainly did not intermarry with the locals regardless of their color.
There are clearly black empires inside Africa. Northern Africa was colonized by the Greeks for centuries before Alexander showed up. Even the legendary Queen of Sheba was from Ethiopia which depicted people of the black race. In order to even get elephants, they traded with black cultures deeper inside Africa.
This whole WOKEISM is going way too far as NETFLIX is now doing a show with Cleopatra being black. Why don’t we picture Julius Caesar as transgender? Why NETFLIX is even allowing a total distortion of historical facts is damaging to our understanding of the past. History can be confirmed from the coinage. Perhaps people fail to understand that coinage has even survived.
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You know they’re both buried somewhere in the Grand Canyon, right?
Check out “Roden Crater, AZ” on a satellite image.
Has a lot of faith in history. Read the following and get your juices flowing on ancient busts and coins etc.
https://stolenhistory.org/articles/fake-antiquity-the-bust-of-julius-caesar-why.106/
Netflix’s ‘Queen Cleopatra’ adaptation sued by Egyptian lawyer: A ‘forgery’
Egyptian lawyer Mahmoud al-Semary officially filed a lawsuit against Netflix’s documentary “Queen Cleopatra” after its recent trailer revealed that the figure would be depicted as Black.
Netflix’s series inspired controversy after revealing a trailer for the series on Apr. 12. In the trailer, Cleopatra is portrayed by actress Adele James, a Black actress, despite several historians and Egyptian critics pointing out that Cleopatra was likely not Black.
While speaking to Egypt Independent, al-Semary’s legal complaint referred to the series as a “forgery” and attacked Netflix for “this crime” of misleading viewers.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/netflixs-queen-cleopatra-adaptation-sued-egyptian-lawyer-forgery
Remember woke ideology has no ability to enter truth facts or reality !
It’s all socialist utopian horse shit as the LBGQT nonsense engulfs the US and EU and inferior refugees invade destabilizing the great civilized societies and are now inbreeding with white mud sharks assuring the apocalyptic collapse of everything
Define ‘light skinned’. Cleo was Greek, family Mediterranean. Greeks for the most part were not ‘light skinned’ as whites are. Did her family inter breed? We do not know. Concubines, yes. Greek Rulers of Egypt?-we just do not know.
Here is an interesting tidbit:
The greeks (or macedonians) of 300+ BC were definitely white. Only slaves and later greece were considered ‘dark’.
Have a glimpse of one of the world’s most famous faces of all time and tell Auntie this regal lady is a negro:
Massah-donenian
Interesting time period which seems to have not been taught in my school daze. I only came across it by the study of Daniel, in particulart ch. 10 and 11. There is a reason the Pharoic age ceased in Egypt: Persia. By the time Alexander defeated the Persians and the 4 generals succeeded him, it was much later. The Ptolemy’s (from whence came Cleopatra eventually) took over the Egyptian territories along with others, i.e. “The South”, so it does not seem like a shock that Egyptian leadership in her day would have looked Greek / Anatolian. No doubt the population itself was a racial mixture.
What does the Book of Daniel, authorship unknown, have to do with the conquests of Alexander The Great, which happened a few centuries after Daniel happened if the Bible Whackadoodle timeline is correct?
Anyone who downvotes this is only proving that they never actually read what is written in Daniel. All they know is a very select verses whacked off to them in Bible Whackadoodle cult sessions. Odds are they never had an actual reality-based history class because it conflicts with the Bible Whackadoodle Agenda of being unable to cope with reality.
https://bible-studys.org/?page_id=185
Book of Daniel Explained
Select The Chapter you want
The Intro:
Title: The title of the book comes from the name of its chief character and author. Daniel who through the book received revelations from God. Daniel bridges the entire 70 years of the Babylonian captivity from (605 to 536 B.C.; compare 1:1 and 9:1-3).
Nine of the 12 chapters relate revelation through dreams and visions. Daniel was God’s mouthpiece to the Gentile and Jewish world, declaring God’s current and future plans. What Revelation is to the New Testament prophetically and apocalyptically, Daniel is to the Old Testament.
Author – Date: Several verses indicate that the writer is Daniel (8:15, 27; 9:2; 10:2, 7; 12:4-5), whose name means “God is my Judge.” He wrote in the autobiographical first person from (7:2 on), and is to be distinguished from the other 3 Daniels of the Old Testament (compare 1 Chron. 3:1; Ezra 8:2; Neh. 10:6). As a teenager, possibly about 15 years old, Daniel was kidnapped from his noble family in Judah and deported to Babylon to be brainwashed into Babylonian culture for the task of assisting in dealing with the imported Jews. There he spent the remainder of a long life (85 years or more). He made the most of the exile successfully, exalting God by his character and service. He quickly rose to the role of statesman by official royal appointment and served as a confidante of kings as well as a prophet in two world empires, i.e., the Babylonian (2:48), and the Medo-Persian (6:1-2). Christ confirmed Daniel as the author of this book (compare Matt. 24:15).
Daniel lived beyond the time described (in Dan. 10:1; ca. 536 B.C.). It seems most probable that he wrote the book shortly after this date but before (ca. 530 B.C.).
(Daniel 2:4b – 7:28), which prophetically describes the course of Gentile world history, was originally and appropriately written in Aramaic, the contemporary language of international business. Ezekiel, Habakkuk, Jeremiah, and Zephaniah were Daniel’s prophetic contemporaries.
The authenticity of few books in the bible has been more furiously assailed by critics than the Book of Daniel. The primary reasons for this is:
1. The book is said to make several historical blunders.
2. The language of the period.
3. The position of the book in the third part of the threefold division of the Old Testament Canon (laws and writings), shows that it was written too late to be placed in the collection of the Prophets.
4. The book contains many examples of historical events that occurred long after the time of the traditional date for Daniel.
The arguments for the book’s authenticity however are quite convincing and answer well those negative doubts:
1. The charges of historical blunders have proved false in the past (e.g., the mention of Belshazzar, now firmly established by the discovery of the Nabonidus Chronicle, was once thought to be a mistake). Present problematic passages will eventually likewise be solved.
2. Not only do the international contacts of the Neo-Babylonian Empire account for the presence of foreign words, but recent linguistic research has rendered obsolete the argument concerning the supposed lateness of Daniel’s language.
3. Daniel was a statesman as well as a prophet, and could thus easily be included in the writings.
4. Since God is the Sovereign of history, He can inspire men to record accurate predictions of events both near and far.
5. Jesus quoted Daniel as a prophet (Matt. 24:15; Mark 13:14).
6. Daniels contemporaries mention him as a person known for his righteousness and wisdom (Ezek. 14:14, 20; 28:3).
7. Ancient authorities, both Jewish and Christian, accepted the book’s authenticity.
8. Taken at face value, the book purports to be a document (of the sixth century B.C.), written by a prophet of God. There is no good reason to reject Daniel’s authorship of the book.
If the claims of the book are taken at face value, it was written during the lifetime of Daniel at various periods between the time he was captured and the third year of Cyrus (605 to 536 B.C.), or simply (the sixth century B.C.). The dates of the three kings mentioned in the book are well known: Nebuchadnezzar (605 – 562 B.C.), Belshazzar (553-539 B.C.), and Cyrus (559 – 529 B.C.). Cyrus’s reign over Babylon, the scene of the later chapters of Daniel (began in 539 B.C.).
Interpretation – Purpose: The interpretation of the book can be determined only by understanding its historical background. (In 626 B.C.), Nabopolassar of Babylon freed his city from Assyrian control and thus began the Neo-Babylonian Empire. (In 612 B.C.), Babylonia and Media together defeated the Assyrians and destroyed Nineveh, their capital. Nabopolassar was succeeded by his son Nebuchadnezzar (in 605 B.C.), shortly after the latter had defeated the Egyptians at Carchemish. The Babylonians were then the undisputed masters of the ancient Near East. In the first of three campaigns against Judah, Nebuchadnezzar took Daniel and his three friends, among others, captive to Babylon (605 B.C.). Later campaigns resulted in the taking of 10,000 captives, including Ezekiel (597 B.C.) and finally, the destruction of the temple and city itself (586 B.C.).
Four successive Babylonian kings are not mentioned in Daniel: Amel-marduk (the Evil-merodach of the Bible; 562 – 560 B.C.), Nergalsharusur (the Nergal-sharezer (of Jer. 39:3), known to the Greeks as Neriglissar (560 – 556 B.C.), Labashi-marduk (556 B.C.); and Nabonidus (555 – 539 B.C.). However, the final king of the Empire, Belshazzar (553-539 B.C.), is an important figure in Daniel’s account. Belshazzar, although a co-regent with his father Nabonidus, was in fact the reigning monarch for much of his father’s term. During Belshazzar’s rule Daniel had the vision of the four beasts (chapter 7), and the vision of the ram and the male goat (in chapter 8). The famous “handwriting on the wall” (in chapter 5) was a prediction of Belshazzar’s fall, since the city was taken that night (Oct. 12, 539 B.C.) by Cyrus the Persian. Cyrus is the only Persian king mentioned in the book. Darius is clearly identified as a Mede and should not be confused with a later Persian king by the same name.
The writing of this book has several purposes:
1. It presents a divine philosophy of history. God is represented as the Sovereign over all of history. He moves men and nations according to His will (4:35).
2. It provides a prophetic framework for the future, that period called by Jesus as “the times of the Gentiles” (Luke 21:24). The world empires mentioned (in chapters 2 and 7), show the ultimate fortunes of Gentile powers.
3. It explains other portions of Scripture. The Book of Revelation could not be understood apart from the Book of Daniel. (Revelation chapters 4-19), is a commentary on the events of Daniel’s “seventieth week” (Daniel 9:27).
4. It served as a book of encouragement to the Babylonian exiles, whose hearts were no doubt lightened by Daniel’s predictions of the ultimate triumph of Israel over her enemies.
Background – Setting: The book begins (in 605 B.C.), when Babylon conquered Jerusalem and exiled Daniel, his 3 friends, and others. It continues to the eventual demise of Babylonian supremacy (n 539 B.C.), when Medo-Persian besiegers conquered Babylon (5:30-31), and goes even beyond that to (536 B.C.; 10:1). After Daniel was transported to Babylon, the Babylonian victors conquered Jerusalem in two further stages (597 B.C. and 586 B.C.). In both takeovers, they deported more Jewish captives. Daniel passionately remembered his home, particularly the temple at Jerusalem, almost 70 years after having been taken away from it (6:10).
Daniel’s background is alluded to in part by Jeremiah, who names 3 of the last 5 kings in Judah before captivity (compare Jeremiah 1:1-3): Josiah (ca. 641 – 609 B.C.), Jehoiakim (ca. 609 -597 B.C.), and Zedekiah (597 – 586 B.C.). Jehoahaz (ca. 609 B.C.), and Jehoiachin (ca. 598 – 597 B.C.) are not mentioned (compare Jeremiah Introduction: Background – Setting). Daniel is also mentioned by Ezekiel (compare 14:14, 20; 28:3), as being righteous and wise. He is alluded to by the writer of Hebrews as one of “the prophets … who through by faith … stopped the mouths of lions” (Heb. 11:32-33).
The long-continued sin of the Judeans without national repentance eventually led to God’s judgment for which Jeremiah, Habakkuk, and Zephaniah had given fair warning. Earlier, Isaiah and other faithful prophets of God had also trumpeted the danger. When Assyrian power had ebbed by 625 B.C., the Neo-Babylonians conquered:
(1) Assyria with its capital Nineveh (in 612 B.C.);
(2) Egypt in the following years, and
(3) Judah (in 605 B.C.), when they overthrew Jerusalem in the first of 3 steps (also 597 B.C. 586 B.C.).
Daniel was one of the first groups of deportees, and Ezekiel followed (in 597 B.C.).
Israel of the northern kingdom had earlier fallen to Assyria (in 722 B.C.). With Judah’s captivity, the judgment was complete. In Babylon, Daniel received God’s word concerning successive stages of Gentile world domination through the centuries until the greatest Conqueror, Messiah, would put down all Gentile lordship. He then will defeat all foes and raise His covenant people to blessing in His glorious millennial kingdom.
Historical – Theological Themes: Daniel was written to encourage the exiled Jews by revealing God’s program for them, both during and after the time of Gentile power in the world. Prominent above every other theme in the book is God’s sovereign control over the affairs of all rulers and nations, and their final replacement with the True King. The key verses are (2:20-22, 44; compare 2:28, 37; 4:34-35; 6:25-27). God had not suffered defeat in allowing Israel’s fall (Dan. Chapter 1), but was providentially working His sure purposes toward an eventual full display of His King, the exalted Christ. He sovereignly allowed Gentiles to dominate Israel, i.e., Babylon (605-539 B.C.), Medo-Persia (539 – 331 B.C.), Greece (331 – 146 B.C.), Rome (146 B.C. – 476 A.D.), and all the way to the Second Advent of Christ. These stages in Gentile power are set forth (in chapters 2 and 7). This same theme also embraces Israel’s experience both in defeat and finally in her kingdom blessing (in Chapters 8 through 12; compare 2:35, 45; 7:27). A key aspect within the over-arching theme of God’s kingly control is Messiah’s coming to rule the world in glory over all men (2:35, 45; 7:13; 14, 27). He is like a stone (in chapter 2), and like a son of man (in chapter 7). In addition, He is the Anointed One (Messiah; in chapter 9:26). Chapter 9 provides the chronological framework from Daniel’s time to Christ’s kingdom.
A second theme woven into the fabric of Daniel is the display of God’s sovereign power through miracles. Daniel’s era is one of 6 in the Bible with a major focus on miracles by which God accomplished His purposes. Other periods include:
(1) The Creation and Flood (Gen. 1:11);
(2) The patriarchs and Moses (Gen. 12 – Deuteronomy);
(3) Elijah and Elisha (1 Kings 17 – 2 Kings 13);
(4) Jesus and the apostles (Gospels, Acts); and
(5) The time of the Second Advent (Revelation).
God, who has everlasting dominion and ability to work according to His will (4:34-35), is capable of miracles, all of which would be lesser displays of power than was exhibited when He acted as Creator (in Gen. 1:1). Daniel chronicles the God-enabled recounting and interpreting of dreams which God used to reveal His will (Chapters 2, 4, and 7). Other miracles included:
(1) His writing on the wall and Daniel’s interpreting it (chapter 5);
(2) His protection of the 3 men in a blazing furnace (chapter 3);
(3) His provision of safety for Daniel in a lions’ den (chapter 6); and
(4) Supernatural prophecies (chapters 2, 7, 8; 9:24 – 12:13)
lol
God bless you.
BIG milestone when i quit praying for death/destruction of various.
NOT how that works, as i’ve come to realize. Thick Headed?
HAVE been blessed more than i deserve. STILL alive. Must be a reason.
Currently? Pray for everybody. Can NOT hurt.
Cleopatra was neither black nor white. She was actually a small grey alien. It seems Marc Anthony liked his “strange” a little stranger than most.
Only a bone head would give a flying F’k or a simple crap. If you must know, find someone that was there and ask them.
Oh man! If I had a flying fuck, I’d never let it leave my sight! We’d go for rides and have adventures just like Rick and Morty!
And who taught them to behave like animals?
Last time I checked, Tulsa has no socialist agenda driven organizations. But it does have plenty of Bible Whackadoodle Agenda driven organizations who see it has part of their agenda to keep the black people down per the agenda of great fantasies as written in Genesis.
Plus there is the fact that white southern hillbillies want their slaves back. What better way that to set them up for failure and force them to turn to crime so the law can be changed and their “property” returned?
You’re an ass. White hillbillies weren’t slave owners. Blame liberals from the 60’s from Yankee country primarily not southereners. And by the way, southerners don’t want the bastards back.
…in Richmond Va. on my 2 yr. vacation. Can’t remember the actual $, ONE $ or less sticks in my noggin. Impulse buy based on the ‘comedy’ angle.
‘Cause i am one. WAS expecting ‘comedy’ of some sort.
WAS actually a recounting of a
TragedyHistory of the History of…https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Redneck-Manifesto/Jim-Goad/9780684838649
…The World.
Ephesians 6:12
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
King James Version (KJV)
African niggers ARE animals.
ABOUT 31 BLACK-ON-WHITE HOMICIDES (SOME BY BLACK WOMEN!): March 2023—Another Month In the Death of White America
https://www.unz.com/article/about-31-black-on-white-homicides-some-by-black-women-march-2023-another-month-in-the-death-of-white-america/
Perhaps the white parents were complete and total asshole southern hillbillies who are still pissed off at blacks for not being slaves because they are still fighting the Civil War over the fact their great-great-great grandpappy on the plantation had the slaves taken away after Sherman made that detour southeast at Atlanta.
Colin Flaherty
RIP
We know that this is how she looked. Hollywood said so already:
I’ll buy that.
Greeks were Freaks.
Who cares?
Kunta Kinte from Root was white! (yes I know it is a fictional character)
plus an engineering jeenyuss in the 24th century on the starsh1p Enterpr1se.
AROUND BLACKS
There were a few black-ish pharoahs ever, before a collapse IIRC.
For a controversial take, the inbreeding worked out. I believe there was a line of Egyptian head architects that kept it in the family for 20 to 30 generations and built things that are still around today.
Were the Romans actually against it, or Christian Rome? I don’t recall what the Romans ever said about it.
No there were not. All pharaohs were white, usually with blonde or red hair.
What kind of ignoramus would think she wasn’t white?
More people whites have died to niggers since 1968 than died in the entire American “Civil War” which was the bloodiest conflict America ever fought.