More Weapons Go To Ukraine But What Will It Do With Those?

Guest Post by Moon of Alabama

Ukraine’s counter-offensive has failed and it has no chance of a victory in the war.

Its best possibility to still sustain for a while is to now build several new defense lines and to pull back to those. Instead it is continuing to attack on too many fronts with little gains and large losses.

Yesterday the Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed the situation with his Security Council.

Nikolai Patrushev, the Secretary of the Council, reported on Ukrainian losses:

As of today, we have the following statistics. From June 4 to 21, we destroyed 246 tanks, including 13 Western tanks, as well as 595 armoured combat vehicles and armoured cars. Of this number, we have destroyed 152 infantry fighting vehicles, including 59 Western models, as well as 443 other armoured combat vehicles. We have destroyed 279 field artillery systems and mortars, including 48 Western systems. We have also destroyed 42 multiple launch rocket systems, 2 surface-to-air missile systems, 10 tactical fighters, 4 helicopters, 264 drones and 424 motor vehicles.

Those numbers are a bit below the sums in my spreadsheet as given by the daily report of the Russian Ministry of Defense. I believe that Patrushev’s sums are probably four or five days old. Patrushev gives the number of dead Ukrainians as 13,000 along all fronts. That is again a bit below my sums and likely behind in time.

Putin then asks his Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu:

Vladimir Putin: I see.Mr Shoigu, we know that the enemy is to receive additional Western equipment. What does the Defence Ministry think about threats in this connection?

Sergei Shoigu: Regarding current and planned military equipment deliveries, there are plans to supply 250 tanks, including about 120 Leopards and 31 Abrams tanks, throughout 2023. There are also 95 T-72 tanks that they have scraped together from all over the world. This is what we know about the planned deliveries.

There are plans to deliver 983 armoured combat vehicles throughout 2023. In all, 822 vehicles, the bulk of the shipment, including 740 Western models, is set to arrive during the third and fourth quarters.

In effect, we can also see that all arsenals, accumulated by the Soviet Union and countries of the former socialist bloc, have now been virtually depleted. We can say the same about former Ukrainian resources.

The intention is to deliver 273 155-mm artillery systems throughout 2023. This is more than two times less than had been delivered so far.

That sounds like a lot but Shoigu then makes this assessment:

In the context of the losses, listed by Mr Patrushev, and taking into account earlier developments, we now realise that the amount, due to be delivered throughout 2023, as well as those weapons that have already been delivered, will not seriously affect the course of hostilities. Additionally, most of the armoured vehicles and fighting vehicles belong to the previous generation, or even to an earlier generation. On the one hand, their armour is weak and ineffective, compared to modern equipment. Mr President, we do not see any threats here, all the more so as we are actively accumulating reserve equipment and service personnel.

That is good news. For the Russians. For the Ukraine military it means that it will again get as much as it has lost over the last three weeks except for artillery which is already scarce and will in future be even more so. But how long will that last if the Ukrainian army continues to attack?

Russia is still expanding its military and is creating new military units. According to Shoigu those have already receive 3,786 pieces of military hardware and are daily receiving 112 more units. I presume that to mean ‘stuff that shoots or drives’, i.e. cannons and armored vehicles of all kind. This is not all new stuff but also refurbished and upgraded depot equipment. But compared to what Ukraine will still get the numbers are just huge.

The Russian side now has two choices. It can go on attack, as it currently does near Kupiansk, or it can wait at the current lines until the Ukraine has thrown all that new stuff against those.

We will most likely see a mix of both. Russia may stay quiet in the south where it has good positions and attack in the north where Ukrainian militia attempt to make boarder raids on Russia. A wide security zone there would end that nonsense.

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16 Comments
Anonymous
Anonymous
June 23, 2023 4:02 pm

They’ll be used to help old ladies cross the street?

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 23, 2023 4:27 pm

This is some weird shit.

Wagner Chief Declares Full-On ‘Coup’ Against Russian Defense Ministry – zerohedge

Todd Packer's Mentor
Todd Packer's Mentor
June 23, 2023 4:31 pm

Let’s hope that Shoigu records his calls with Western defense chiefs, and has drones and cameras recording the nuclear power plant non-stop 24/7.
When Ukraine attacks the nuclear power plant, Russia must provide the recordings of Shoigu’s calls threatening overwhelming reprisals. Russia must publish video proof of Ukraine attacking the power plant as they destroy American and European military targets across Europe.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Todd Packer's Mentor
June 23, 2023 4:41 pm

russia ought to go in hard & put a huge security perimeter around the nuclear power plant & then turn the plant operations over to a neutral rd party under the conditions that russia may reassert control at any time —

Ginger
Ginger
  TampaRed
June 23, 2023 6:08 pm

North Korea would be a good choice as a good peace keeping force. Seriously, nobody would want to screw around with them. Either them or the Vietnamese. Both of them remind me a fireant hill, kick one and a million come pouring out with one thought, and that is to cause some harm to the kicker.

k31
k31
  Ginger
June 24, 2023 10:45 pm

Best Korea is an excellent choice.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 23, 2023 6:05 pm

They’ll sell all that crap to fund Zelenskyyyyyy’s coke habit.

tsquared
tsquared
  Anonymous
June 23, 2023 7:33 pm

Don’t forget the kickbacks to the people in DC.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 23, 2023 9:08 pm

Sen. Lindsay Graham and Stolen Valor sidekick wring hands warning about use of Nukes in Ukraine and NATO troop deployment.

Setup has begun. Listen.

The Neocons are determined to get the USA directly involved in a war with Russia.

Idiots like Sen Lindsey Graham would go so far as to create a false flag nuclear event to achieve that goal.

Wall Street Silver
@WallStreetSilv

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Anonymous
June 23, 2023 10:09 pm

Back in the fifties it was understood that closeted gays were a danger to the nation.

Eud
Eud
June 23, 2023 9:23 pm

That Indian tribe that burned all their clothes to stay warm must be guiding TeamuSA military doctrine in Ukie Acres.

Thunder
Thunder
June 23, 2023 10:25 pm

Well the rifles can be used as grave markers and the shell casings for the cremated tank corpses

TampaRed
TampaRed
June 23, 2023 11:13 pm

are you guys keeping up w/the news tonight?
there is allegedly an attempted coup going on & the wagner group & it’s leader are traveling towards moscow —

fujigm
fujigm
  TampaRed
June 24, 2023 12:49 am

On it.
Got more popcorn popping.

Putin it where it counts
Putin it where it counts
  TampaRed
June 24, 2023 1:21 am

Pooty’s getting what’s coming its way

m
m
  TampaRed
June 24, 2023 2:13 am

Totally. A confused fifth column’ist will unseat Putin, and everybody else will stand by idly or even cheer.