A Third World War Seems a Certainty

Guest Post by Paul Craig Roberts

Putin’s “limited military operation” is turning out to be a disaster for Putin, for Russia, and for the world as it seems to be leading to a major war.

Recently I listed some of the serious consequences for Russia of the limited operation: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/07/18/does-putin-understand-that-russia-is-at-war/  and  https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/07/22/another-consequence-of-putins-never-ending-war/

Another is Putin’s failure to take Odessa and close Ukraine from the Black Sea.  As long as Ukraine has Odessa, attacks can be mounted from sea on Crimea, such as the recent attack by 28 drones. What is the value of a limited military operation that leaves the enemy every opportunity to continue its attacks on Russian territory?

Putin’s failure to quickly knock Ukraine out of the war gives the US and NATO the opportunity to establish Black Sea bases in Romania, Bulgaria, Georgia, and possibly Turkey.  In other words, Putin is allowing the possibility of the US and NATO to challenge Russia’s natural dominance of the Black Sea.  It is difficult to imagine a more fatal error.

The US 101st Airborne Division is sitting in Romania. Why?  Is it to cut off Russian forces in Transnistria and achieve the victory of a Russian surrender, or is it to provide “trip-wire” protection for US/NATO to complete the encirclement of the Russian Navy that has been achieved in the North and Baltic Seas as the result of Putin’s limited operation that sent Sweden and Finland into NATO?

What Putin and his pro-Western Atlanticist Integrationist advisors thought would be a reassuring-to-the- West “limited operation” confined to Donbass in fact gave the anti-Russian West the opportunity to turn the tables against Putin.  He is now in a war for which he hasn’t sufficient conventional forces as he has not committed the necessary funds for a real army.

And he still refuses to abandon his goody two shoes posture that places the lives of Ukrainian civilians and their water, electric power, public transportation and every day convenience, all of which facilitates the fighting ability of Ukraine,  above the survival of Russia and her troops in the trenches.

Putin after waiting eight years while Washington built up a Ukrainian Army that was about to slaughter the inhabitants of rebellious Russian provinces in Ukraine, people put into the Ukrainian Republic of the Soviet Union without their consent by Communist officials.  This forced Putin’s reluctant hand, but he remained reluctant and limited his intervention to ineffectiveness that encouraged Washington’s neoconservatives who hate Russia to involve the West against Russia in a conflict that Washington cannot afford to lose.  The two American presidential candidates capable of ending the conflict with Russia–Donald Trump and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., are both under fierce attack from the Democrat Party, the military/security complex, the US media, and fake prosecutorial charges. In my opinion, there is no prospect of either being permitted to become President of the United States.  

Putin, the Kremlin, and the Chinese leadership do not understand that the West is no longer the West.  20th century Western principles possibly never existed in practice, but they did in principle.  In Soviet Russia the propaganda of a free West played well.  In the minds of the Russian intelligentsia, America became a potential liberator. When the Soviet Union collapsed when hardline Communists arrested Gorbavhev, Russians suffered loss of self-belief because of the economic hardships and political humiliations that followed. America’s shining light became a sign of liberation.  The success of American propaganda in Russia might seal Russia’s doom.

Here is analysis from an Indian. https://www.indianpunchline.com/storm-clouds-gathering-in-the-black-sea/

Notice that it is not from an American or a Russian.  India is a key determinant of how the future develops.  Is India going to align with Russia and China, stay out of the conflict, or align with the West?  India’s decision will have much to do with the stability of the world.

Do Putin and China understand the importance of India?  Will we witness another Putin goody two shoes role in which the decision is left to Indian democracy, which means, of course, Washington’s money, or will China and Russia make the accommodations with India to avoid a CIA agent within the Silk Road?

In my view, perhaps mistaken, Russia and China are babes in the woods. Both governments think they are dealing with democracies whose governments are responsible to the people.  Therefore, Russia and China defend themselves against accusations and act to show that they only want peaceful economic engagement.

But this is not what American Hegemony wants.  The neoconservatives who have controlled US foreign policy for 30 years want the destruction of Russia and China, because both countries serve as constraints on US unilateralism.

It is extraordinary that neither the Russian nor the Chinese governments can comprehend this.

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33 Comments
TCS
TCS
July 24, 2023 8:13 am

Quite a turn around from “NATO will not get involved in a Ukraine ground war” ain’t it?

If you’d listened to ME, you’d be 3YEARS AHEAD of where you currently are in your “thinking”.

So, you’ll pardon me if I completely disregard anything you have to say on the matter currently.

Trumpeter
Trumpeter
July 24, 2023 10:18 am

What if Russia and China didn’t make a mistake? What if Putin’s long slow grind is ment to; discredit western arms and power projection, use existing western stockpiles and highlight the west’s lack of industrial capacity, push western central banks into trying to control inflation while paying for everything via the printing press, while watching the US score own goals through immigration, fentanyl, DIE, wasting infrastructure . . .

Did Russia get it just right? I don’t know but things seem pretty late at the Jenga party here. Which tower will topple first? Read Michael Hudson to find out

KJ
KJ
  Trumpeter
July 24, 2023 10:46 am

You’re overthinking this. Russia fucked up. Allowing Finland and Sweden to join NUTSO is just as big of a fuck-up as not blitzkrieging Ukulele.

Maybe Russia wants WW3?

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  KJ
July 24, 2023 12:08 pm

You think tiny Finland and Sweden would be a plus for NATO??… completely wrong….Just more baggage when NATO collapses…

KJ
KJ
  pyrrhus
July 24, 2023 12:47 pm

NUTSO isn’t going to “collapse” any time soon. By allowing Finland and Sweden to join, Russia has effectively been boxed in in the Baltic. I agree with PCR. Did you even read the post?

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  KJ
July 25, 2023 7:20 am

Jeebus! I wouldn’t follow you to a pay toilet if I had diarrhea and a pocket full of quarters!

KJ
KJ
  The Central Scrutinizer
July 25, 2023 9:44 am

So go shit in the street with the rest of the bums.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Trumpeter
July 24, 2023 1:35 pm

Wishful thinking. Russia has doubled down on not fighting to win in Ukraine.

Dying Sun
Dying Sun
July 24, 2023 11:20 am

Putin, the Kremlin, and the Chinese leadership do not understand that the West is no longer the West.

They both understand this very well, thank you. That is why Russia is the bulwark against Western depravity and corruption.

Do Putin and China understand the importance of India?

Why do you think Russia supplies tanks and oil to India? It’s the U.S. that does not seem to understand the importance of India.

Therefore, Russia and China defend themselves against accusations and act to show that they only want peaceful economic engagement.

This may be true of Russia, but it sure as hell is not true of China. China is doing the same thing as the U.S. in terms of establishing a hegemony.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Dying Sun
July 24, 2023 1:37 pm

Russia’s government is corrupt as fuck, their country is run by oligarchs. The only difference is they’re not pushing the fag and tranny shit.

Why does Russia supply oil to Europe?

FJB
FJB
  Anonymous
July 24, 2023 2:13 pm

Our Government is just as corrupt.

Briagette
Briagette
  Anonymous
July 24, 2023 3:10 pm

Russia is corrupt. And Ukraine is even more corrupt.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Briagette
July 25, 2023 7:22 am

ALL have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.

In that, we ARE all equal.

duke
duke
  Briagette
July 25, 2023 12:10 pm

The most corrupt of all is the US govt. and our fake president and congress still think they can push other nations around with our empty pockets. Russia and China have currencies backed by gold. Ours is backed by the “full faith and credit of the US govt. “What a laughable joke.

m
m
July 24, 2023 11:25 am

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

Putin:
The demilitarization NAKO is going along better than ever hoped for.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  m
July 24, 2023 12:10 pm

And so it is…NATO is running out of ammo and equipment…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  m
July 24, 2023 1:39 pm

In what wars have there ever been less arms and equipment at the end than at the beginning? It might be possible, but I can’t think of a case off the top of my head.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
July 24, 2023 12:06 pm

Total Baloney….Russia has taken control of the Black Sea, and Putin’s slow rolling of the Ukraine has reaped immense political gains, via BRICS and SCO, and given the Russian military time to modernize and gain strength….. and Putin’s personal popularity has increased….

Anonymous
Anonymous
  pyrrhus
July 24, 2023 1:48 pm

If the military has gotten stronger and more up to date, then why have they been fighting using illegal contractors? What was the point of Wagner marching if their military leadership acted in a functional manner?

Free Slave
Free Slave
July 24, 2023 1:08 pm

While PCR criticizes Putin’s moves in this chess game, he does not see what is about to happen in Poland and possibly Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia.

The Wagner group, now publicly alienated from Russia, resides in Belarus. Men and equipment are equipped and ready to attack.

Cleverly, it will be difficult to claim NATO mutual self defense against these “rogue” military units.

Suddenly Russia has its own proxy army.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Free Slave
July 24, 2023 2:08 pm

Masterful 8th-dan judo-chess on the part of Putin. It takes a genius to even be aware of his moves, which are so good that all the predictions about them turn out wrong. He’s probably ‘arresting’ Russian patriots right now so that he can put them in charge, as he currently has the cronies he has pretended to be friends with all these years secretly imprisoned.

lol

m
m
  Anonymous
July 24, 2023 11:58 pm

Now tell us ‘Russia is losing’!

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Free Slave
July 25, 2023 7:26 am

Reciprocity in global fuckery should always be a foregone conclusion.

“…and if you take something from me, then you will pay the price.” – The Machiavellian, The Matrix: Reloaded

D3F1ANT
D3F1ANT
July 24, 2023 1:23 pm

A third world War seems like a certainty because FJB is trying even harder to start it than are Putin and Zelenskyyyy y.

tuesdayisotlentgreenday
tuesdayisotlentgreenday
July 24, 2023 1:53 pm

put all your assets in Europe. drain your oil reserve. That leaves us a setting duck for Russia coming 54 miles across to Alaska. Imagine what will happen in America when Russia is in Alaska and Canada. Where is your military to stop it? They were sent to Europe. By Design????

FJB
FJB
  tuesdayisotlentgreenday
July 24, 2023 2:15 pm

And they are ran by queers.

FJB
FJB
July 24, 2023 2:12 pm

So does a second civil war FJB

Chiral
Chiral
July 24, 2023 2:38 pm

Hide or refuge to central America if you are a male and live here natively or legally.

Steven
Steven
July 24, 2023 3:45 pm

Paul Craig Roberts is really angry that “goody two shoes” Putin hasn’t utterly destroyed Ukraine, it’s cities, people, infrastructure and everything about Ukraine.
He seems to be really angry that the West is providing support to Ukraine and that Ukraine still has a port on the Black Sea.
I can’t agree with Roberts, since he appears to believe that Russia should own Ukraine, that it doesn’t have any business defending itself, and that the West shouldn’t support Ukraine.
He doesn’t appear to respect or believe in common defense.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 24, 2023 5:21 pm

What a weird, screwy, garbled article–especially for anybody who knows any Ukrainians or Russians who’ve lived in the Ukraine. You’d think Putin was some sort of tragic hero instead of a commie creep who vows to nuke everyone every coupla days and who started out saying he wanted to be Peter the Great. Reminiscent of the Americans who supported Hitler before he turned on them, too.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
July 24, 2023 10:27 pm

Hitler didn’t turn on Americans.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
July 25, 2023 7:31 am

Really?

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/american-nazism-and-madison-square-garden

And these cocksuckers still walk among us…breeding and conducting business as usual.

We call them “Democrats” these days.

Steve Z.
Steve Z.
July 24, 2023 7:15 pm

WW3?
Just what the globalist want. Hey, it kills even more than the “jabs”.
What’s not to love “they” say.
So, can we expect it?