Goldilocks Vehicles

Guest Post by Eric Peters

An interesting thing about electric vehicles is that they are also Goldilocks Vehicles – in that they need conditions to be just right in order for them to work right.

Or at least, as well as they are able.

If it’s cold out – and especially if it is very cold – EVs shed range faster than any “gas hog” drains its tank. Even when the EV is parked – if it is left unplugged. In the very cold, it is not unusual to lose 10-20 miles of range overnight that way – just from sitting in the cold.

And it takes forever to refill the energy hog’s “tank” – because the colder it is, the longer it takes to recharge its batteries. Especially at home, where the electricity burned keeping the battery warm in the cold eats up the electricity being “pumped” into the battery via the house.

It’s kind of like trying to fill up a sieve.

Word about all of this got out to the general public last winter – which was the first winter during which more than a relative handful of EVs (which even now are only about 6 percent of all new cars sold) were in use in places other than places where it doesn’t get very cold, such as Los Angeles, CA. Most people – having never owned or even driven an EV – did not know about the cold weather-variability of charge (and range) because people were only told about how EVs perform under optimum conditions, in the goldilocks zone.

They now know how the effect of cold weather on EV battery performance – many of them from first-hand experience.

This may be part of the reason why EV sales after last winter took a dive. Inventories of unsold new EVs have been stacking up all summer – and now word is getting out about the effect of warm (and very hot) weather on EV performance.

“Significant declines” in range have been reported – as much as 31 percent when the EV was subjected to 100 degree heat. And that loss is more than it sounds like it is, when it comes to EVs – whether it’s very hot or very cold outside – because most EVs come standard with less than 300 miles of range when driven in goldilocks conditions. Not too cold – and not too hot.

This includes even high-end luxury EVs such as the ’23 Mercedes EQE recently test-driven by this writer. The base ($79,050) EQE 350 comes standard with just 253 miles of best-case range, under goldilocks conditions.

The loss of 31 percent of that range in less-than-ideal conditions (because the heat is drawing power from the battery to keep it – and you – cool) would leave the owner with only about 175 miles of range, about a quarter of a tank for a typical non-electric car. And that is less than it sounds like it is, because if you run out of range in an EV, you cannot just roll into the nearest gas station to fill ‘er up. You’ll be stuck waiting at a “fast” charger, which you may not have time for.

Assuming you make it there.

So, it’s necessary to always keep enough charge in reserve to make sure you can make it to where you have the time to recharge – whether at home or on the way there. If that means never letting the remaining charge drop below say 10 percent – especially when conditions are less-than-ideal and that 10 percent may get burned through 31 percent faster. Thus, even a putative “300 mile range” is functionally 10 percent less than that – or 270 miles. And that latter might be 31 percent optimistic, in which case you’ve only got about 190 miles of realistic range in less-than-ideal conditions.

This assumes, of course, that you had 300 miles of range under best-case conditions.

Most EVs with MSRPs under $50,000 don’t. They have best-case ranges in the range of 230-280 miles. For example, the ’23 Ford Mustang Mach E – which lists for $42,995 – comes standard with just 247 miles of range (224, if you opt for the available dual-motor set-up and all-wheel-drive). You have to spend $7,000 extra to get the “extended range” battery – which gives you 303 miles of range.

Maybe. If it’s not too cold – or too hot. If you don’t use the AC – or the heat – much. Even the soyest of boys are acknowledging this, while also apologizing for this.

Well, what is 31 percent less than a fully-charged 247 miles? It is 171 miles. Now subtract another 10 percent from that, so you’ll have enough range (hopefully) to make it to a place where you can charge – and have the time to wait. That’s about 154 miles of range – which is not very far when you have places to go and don’t have time to wait.

And if you only started out with 50 percent charge – because you didn’t have time to wait for a full charge – you might only be able to go 85 miles, if you shed 31 percent of the 123 putative, best-case miles you thought you had with a 50 percent charge. Less the 10 percent of that you’d probably want to not burn through and keep in reserve.

Is it any wonder there aren’t people waiting to get EVs?

This column – and even the “mainstream” – media have noted that EV inventories are piling up like boxes of unused Face Diapers. The reason for this – in both cases – is essentially the same. People are cluing in to the fraud – and are no longer buying into what they’ve been lied to about.

What is the point of wearing a “mask” that doesn’t work? Assuming the point isn’t to trick people into believing that it “works”? And what is the point of tryin to trick people into believing that an EV will work just like the vehicles they’re used to . . . ?

Unless of course that is the point.

The good news is more and more people are cluing in to these tricks – and a point arrives after which it becomes much harder to trick them again, for they have shed their trust and now assume they’re being lied to.

This is salutary. It is healthy. When people are more careful, they’re less likely to be taken for a ride.

Or left to walk.

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22 Comments
YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
July 27, 2023 6:59 pm

I understand it takes special carcinogenic foam to extinguish them when they self-immolate

Jocko
Jocko
  YourAverageJoe
July 28, 2023 8:13 am

Look, a coward with a down vote, but no comment on why? They have no case to disagree!

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Jocko
July 28, 2023 12:21 pm

another one.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 27, 2023 7:57 pm

I just read the Portland Press Herald online a story about Maine spending money on increasing EV infrastructure. I read the comments. All raves about EVs of course . Even with all the liberal weirdos there , the comments seem fake. Not one against EVs.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Anonymous
July 27, 2023 9:15 pm

And a never mentioned fact.
There isn’t enough lithium and cobalt on earth to do any of this scam.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
July 28, 2023 8:14 am

With Maine’s climate that must include a lot of indoor, heated parking areas!

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Anonymous
July 28, 2023 12:23 pm

Wait till it gets cold and those electric cars don’t go very far and even discharge up to 10% over night.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
July 27, 2023 9:13 pm

A guy here in CO bought an electric full sized pickup and decided to tour the state
and document the trip last winter. He gave up after 3 weeks and about 200 miles.
The manufacturers lied through their teeth about the milage per charge. There are few places to recharge
and it takes about 7 hours of charging for each our of use. He spent a fortune on motels, meals, and
charging fees to find out electric cars are a scam.

Eud
Eud
  Colorado Artist
July 27, 2023 10:18 pm

Shhhhh! I have Tesla stock…

Not!
Lol

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 27, 2023 11:30 pm

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Two if by sea.
Two if by sea.
July 27, 2023 11:34 pm

All vehicles after the turn of the century are pure CAD shit!

crawdad
crawdad
  Two if by sea.
July 28, 2023 3:30 am

And are “dog” crap!

Daddy Joe
Daddy Joe
July 27, 2023 11:37 pm

It’s a great problem. Less trust for all the media and government lying whores, and therefore less trust for the next series of scams they will be rolling out. The realities of physics will eventually expose the climate hoax, fiat money hoax, fake food hoax, diversity hoax, and all the other features of our present clown world. Everything is working itself out—it just takes a long time to work through all the delusion and stupidity. Third law of stupid states: the stupid must suffer. Multiple scams must be undone. I know it hurts to watch, but get popcorn and be patient. It is happening.

Two if by sea.
Two if by sea.
  Daddy Joe
July 27, 2023 11:39 pm

Lots of popcorn.

FarmerChet
FarmerChet
  Daddy Joe
July 28, 2023 2:08 pm

Thought the 3rd law was: Stop that stupid and they will just make a better one.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 28, 2023 1:06 am

Storage batteries have always been subject to temperature fluctuations since the development by Edison .
Certainly the technology is better and more dependable but the laws of physics are still enforced regardless what a salesman says !
One huge down fall is full battery replacement after approximately 70,000 miles average cost close to $20,000.00 otherwise you own a $50 to $80 thousand dollar lawn ornament .
I would never own a vehicle that requires such a huge maintenance expense like that with such low mileage
It’s ridiculous and not ready for prime time !
We are not at the point where the EV can replace the gas or diesel for the majority
Keep an eye on the leftist idiots in Delaware because they are pushing an all EV agenda ! Funny it’s idiot Biden’s home State

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Anonymous
July 28, 2023 12:25 pm

What about the Corvette?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
July 28, 2023 2:14 am

My car showed the temp outside to be 101F today. It was also humid as hell. Coincidentally I didn’t see any Teslas today. I also never see Teslas when it’s -10F. So EV owners also need to have a gasoline car for when it’s too hot or too cold to use their EV.

Michelle Obama's nuts
Michelle Obama's nuts
July 28, 2023 4:19 am

‘Formerly The one and only Caitlyn Jenner’s testicles’ here. All of this is moot to me; I wouldn’t purchase one of these things regardless. Regardless whether I won the Powerball, regardless whether Elon gave me a 100% on any model of my choosing, regardless whether he also paid my electric bill and finally, regardless if my wife let me have one.

So welcome to my new user name. Just like women and their hair, I need a refreshing change every so often. I’d thought given some new developments of acquired trolls on here and others that might just be trying to unnerve the rest of us, okay only me probably. I’d change it to Synonymous. But that one may or may not come later. But now I’m Michelle Obama’s nuts. It has a double meaning. She/he literally has nuts and he/she is literally nuts.

Trumpeter
Trumpeter
July 28, 2023 9:51 am

One small point, that final ten percent reserve is really of the whole capacity. If you need 10% reserve, what you are saying is that you need 25 miles of reserve. Kind of like having a gallon reserve in your gas tank (had a motorcycle back in the day.) But if you only have half a charge, you still need the 25 mile reserve. Which is now 20%.

awoke
awoke
July 28, 2023 12:43 pm

Thanks Elmo.

Eud
Eud
July 28, 2023 1:38 pm

The Goldilocks analogy is spot on!

Kudos Eric Peters!