What We’re About to Lose

Guest Post by Eric Peters

When you can walk, it’s easy to take for granted being able to. But when you no longer can, even walking the handful of yards down to the mailbox and back might as well be a transcontinental trek.

We have taken much for granted with regard to driving – including the ease of being able to do it again and whenever we like.

Whenever we need to. Even if we did not plan for it ahead of time.

This was brought home to me the other day when I realized I’d forgotten to gas up the ’23 Dodge Challenger Black Ghost before I parked it for the night the evening prior. There was not enough gas left in its tank to make it very far, particularly given the appetite of the 807 horsepower supercharged V8 engine under the hood.

But, no problem – as I had gas in the shed.


In a jiffy – that is, less than five minutes – I poured five gallons of liquid energy into the Challenger. Enough liquid energy to get even this car – with its very hungry supercharged V8 engine – about 100 miles down the road. If it had been just about any other car – one with say half the appetite of the Black Ghost – those five gallons of liquid energy would have been enough to impart almost as much range as the typical EV has when fully charged.

Remarkable.

Particularly when contrasted with how a similar situation would elaborate with an energy hog EV I’d run close to “empty” – and forgotten to plug in overnight. How long does it take to “pour” the electrical energy equivalent of five gallons of gasoline into an EV at home?

At least a few hours.

That’s best-case, using what is styled a “Level II” charging apparatus. All that means is you’ve had an electrician come out to your place and paid him to wire up a dedicated 240 volt circuit to “double up” the power that can be transmitted to your appliance via a standard 115-120V household outlet. This reduces the time it takes to fully recharge the typical high-voltage battery-powered appliance to 8-11 hours rather than twice as long as that on the standard household outlet.

Assuming you have a house.

If not, you will have to use a public charger. But that requires enough range to make it there – as well as the time to wait there.

What if you haven’t got either?

An interesting thing – one of them – about this EV business is the unspoken presumption of being able to recharge it at home. This assumes the EV owner is a homeowner. Probably because it is assumed that anyone who can afford to spend the $50,000-plus the typical EV sells for already owns a home. And also that he earns enough money to pay enough in taxes to be eligible for the “tax credit” that helps reduce the cost-to-buy of the $50,000-plus Elitist Vehicle.

But what about those who live in an apartment – because they’re not yet able to afford to buy a home? (And who pay full price for the EV – assuming they’re able – because they didn’t earn enough to qualify for the “tax credit” their more affluent, home-owning EV owners used the government to help them pay for?)   

They generally park on the street – or in a parking lot outside the building – where there isn’t even a “Level 1” (that is, household 115/120V) outlet to plug into overnight. There may be some “Level II” or even “Level III” so-called “fast” chargers sprinkled around. But not a sufficiency for everyone to plug in at the same time.

Or probably even a fourth of them.

The rest will have to wait their turn.

Given that each “turn” takes at least 15-30 minutes – at the “Level III” charger – that wait could take hours. As opposed to the less than five minutes it took me to pour five gallons of gas – and 100 miles of range – from a jug into the Challenger.

It’s more than just that, too.

What if the power is out at home? Then you won’t be able to charge at home – even if you do own one. Which means that if you need to get somewhere – or get away from there – you won’t be able to. But it’s no problem to get going – even when the power’s out – if you have a jug of gas out in the shed, as I did.

And don’t have an EV.

Even if the jug’s empty. Because it’s easy enough to fill it. All you need is a friend who’ll drive you down the road to the gas station.

Assuming, of course, your friend doesn’t drive an EV.

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39 Comments
lamont cranston
lamont cranston
August 27, 2023 5:51 pm

This whole EV thing reminds me of an offhand comment made at a cocktail party 30+ years ago in a $1MM+ house in Winston-Salem. The owner had installed a $50K pond, replete w/ koi. $50K then equates to $200K or so today.

My Friend: That’s an IRS pond.
Me: Tax deduction?
Him: No, I’m Rich as Sh•t and you’re not.

EVs are not only virtue signaling but also a waste of $$$. Just like the koi pond.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  lamont cranston
August 27, 2023 11:29 pm

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The True Nolan
The True Nolan
August 27, 2023 6:12 pm

And the first time an EV owner gets caught in some disaster which shuts down the grid, he may or may not be able to evacuate. Wildfires and power lines down? Big earthquake and grid down? Solar CME and grid down? Ice storm and power lines down? Maybe even heat wave and rolling blackouts — but your child broke a leg and you can’t get to hospital.

Someday we may very well have both the battery technology and the grid infrastructure to make EVs practical. But not today.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 27, 2023 6:17 pm

You don’t move into a house being built until it is complete. You don’t transition a nation to electric if you don’t have the infrastructure to support it.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Anonymous
August 28, 2023 12:30 pm

There will never be the infrastructure to support even 30% EVs in the US … and that’s a feature, not a bug.

We’re not meant to go anywhere — 15-minute cities, anyone?

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
August 27, 2023 6:24 pm

Eric bases his article on the faulty assumption that everyone will have EVs rather than gas-powered vehicles.

The concept is to get rid of gas-powered vehicles so people must rely on walking, biking, and public transit. In other words, the 15-minute city. The fact that some people are wealthy enough to replace a gasoline vehicle with an EV and not be tied down to early 20th century transportation modes is a problem they haven’t figured out how to address yet. Although controlling when you can charge your EV at home thru smart meters and blackouts seems to have some promise.

Two if by sea.
Two if by sea.
  Trapped in Portlandia
August 27, 2023 8:41 pm

Floridians are gonna find out real soon what an EVs worth. Or a 15 min city.

Will the Scot
Will the Scot
  Two if by sea.
August 27, 2023 10:46 pm

Someone enlighten me, please; is the width of this insidious 15 minute city measured by walking, bike, car, bus, or aircraft?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Will the Scot
August 28, 2023 12:51 pm

Walking, I’m sure.

VOWG
VOWG
  Two if by sea.
August 28, 2023 5:36 am

The many years I spend wintering in Florida were kind of like a 15 minute city. Outside of the golf course I played at everything needed was within walking distance, restaurants, bars, the beach, well we were on the beach, beer and liquor. The few times we used car was for grocery shopping and shopping that my wife liked to do. I loved Florida, those days are gone.

General
General
August 27, 2023 6:29 pm

Just like a hammer is useful for some situations and sometimes you need a wrench.

EVs are good for certain situations, but they are NOT for everyone. The main problem isn’t EVs per se. It’s the government trying to subsidize EVs and mandate them to everyone.

Disclaimer. I have an EV for the past six years. It has it’s good and bad points, but overall, I prefer it to a gas car by far. I charge it at home, and I never worry about oil changes, transmission fluid changes, and coolant issues, for example. I just don’t have time for it. And like I said, it’s not for everyone.

Mushroom Cloud
Mushroom Cloud
  General
August 28, 2023 5:27 pm

The hammer is always useful, you pussy.

Ginger
Ginger
August 27, 2023 6:48 pm

When I read an article about the electric cars and all I just watch this and the doom hoopla seems to melt away.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
August 27, 2023 6:49 pm

When you can walk, it’s easy to take for granted being able to. But when you no longer can, even walking the handful of yards down to the mailbox and back might as well be a transcontinental trek.

For sure. I have a new respect for the disabled.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Mary Christine
August 28, 2023 12:32 pm

Be well, Mary Christine … we’re all praying for your speedy and complete recovery.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
August 27, 2023 7:42 pm

This article conveyed a great illustration of how our benevolent government wants us to finance our own demise.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
August 27, 2023 7:49 pm

EV’s are good as golf carts and submarines and train locomotives.
Oh wait, the submarine has a nuclear reactor.
Oh wait, the locomotive has a diesel engine powering the electric drive.
Well ok then, golf carts it is…

Yeah Sure
Yeah Sure
  YourAverageJoe
August 27, 2023 10:51 pm

you can charge up a golf cart or use its batteries to power a cabin.

Yeah Sure
Yeah Sure
  YourAverageJoe
August 27, 2023 10:51 pm

you can charge up a golf cart or use its batteries to power a cabin.

Yeah Sure
Yeah Sure
  YourAverageJoe
August 27, 2023 10:52 pm

you can charge up a golf cart or use its batteries to power a cabin.

Leon
Leon
  Yeah Sure
August 28, 2023 1:38 am

Best not drain the deep cycle golf cart battery more than about 50%, and keep in mind those batteries need replacement after about 1,000 cycles. And the cost……

KaD
KaD
August 27, 2023 7:54 pm

Don’t know what this is about but no good certainly and I hate it!

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Arizona Bay
Arizona Bay
  KaD
August 27, 2023 8:47 pm

It’s the Call to Camp just like muslim Call to Prayer.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Arizona Bay
August 28, 2023 1:40 am

Dirty Old Joe will be announcing the replacement of all currency and coin.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
August 27, 2023 8:37 pm

I was behind a Tesla today with vanity plates that read ZROCRBN.

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Simplecarpenter
Simplecarpenter
  hardscrabble farmer
August 27, 2023 9:38 pm

Which is actually bullshit all by itself ….

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  hardscrabble farmer
August 27, 2023 9:46 pm

Did it have a bumper sticker that said virtue signaling douchebag?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  hardscrabble farmer
August 27, 2023 10:17 pm

It should’ve said RETARD.

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  hardscrabble farmer
August 28, 2023 12:09 am

Better to have said….

ZROBRAINS

Two if by sea.
Two if by sea.
August 27, 2023 8:38 pm

Does that tractor till or bushhog?

Arizona Bay
Arizona Bay
August 27, 2023 8:38 pm

I love our diesel vehicles. My wife’s VW went to college with my daughter so we have another european diesel on the way.

Drove my fullsized SUV fully loaded on vacation down the highway at 75-80mph for hundreds of miles and didn’t have to stop for fuel once. Averaged 31MPG and made it to our destination with just under 1/4 tank.

I hate government intervention in markets but they are subsidizing Green Diesel which is not BioDiesel. I had used and made BioD in the past to heat my workshop. Too many issues with gelling in winter. GreenD is physically identical to DinoD and is made with soybeans. Right now it is sold mainly in CA. At the same time government is subsidizing it they are trying to kill the diesel engine. GreenD is 100% renewable unlike an EV that runs on slave labor and coal.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Arizona Bay
August 27, 2023 8:57 pm

Yup, I’ll take my 1 ton 4×4 pre emissions diesel that gets 21 mpg highway. Will haul or tow everything I need it to. 40 gallon factory tank and 60 in a transfer tank I can go A LONG way. Also store 60 gallons in NATO cans just in case.

James the Deplorable Wanderer
James the Deplorable Wanderer
  Arizona Bay
August 28, 2023 9:55 pm

Real BioD can be made from several precursors – sunflower oil, canola oil, nearly any vegetable oil is three side chains on a glycerine backbone. Break off the backbone and what’s left is CnH2n oil fragments – normal hydrocarbons.
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Long enough oil fragments (in the diesel range) become biodiesel. But unless you put some kind of sulfur compound in it, it won’t make any SO2 in the exhaust – which is a GOOD thing, better than most petrodiesel.
Anyway, if you can grow enough of it, sunflower (or other) vegetable oils could make you energy self-sufficient – all on their own. Diesel electrical generators, anyone? Diesel tractors to plant more sunflowers to get biodiesel – a great big multinational conglomerate-free circle of life?

49%mfer
49%mfer
August 27, 2023 9:02 pm
poordude
poordude
August 27, 2023 10:43 pm

We have no intention of buying an EV. I can not see a single reason to buy one. They are expensive. You can’t go very far. Recharging takes a long time. In the winter the range is even less. You are totally dependent on the electric grid being up. Very expensive to fix them if there is a crash. They are not even “green”. I can not think of a single reason to buy one.

Johnno
Johnno
August 27, 2023 11:16 pm

90% of EVs are still on the road. The other 10% made it all the way home.

Anon anon
Anon anon
August 27, 2023 11:52 pm

To all the other evidence presented here marking EV’s as a scam, let me add one:

Many of the EV’s are pushing industrial design way up the ladder, “introducing us to the future” in ways to make it so appealing that you can’t say no. Never mind we’ve been trying to push the envelope for decades in these areas, but constantly thwarted by the auto industry. Who, in my opinion, have mostly kept cars fat and ugly for laziness reasons. Why give us Jetsons when we are happy with Scooby Doo in other words.

They are trying so damn hard to make EV’s cool, it ought to ring more alarm bells.

frozenoutupnorth
frozenoutupnorth
August 28, 2023 2:11 am

In case you missed it ……He was probably just trying to offset his carbon credits!

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TN Patriot
TN Patriot
August 28, 2023 9:15 am

100 miles on 5 gallons is 20mpg which is pretty impressive for 807 hp. My V-6 F-150 gets around 20 under normal driving and does not have nearly as much horsepower as Eric’s “Black Ghost”.