Don’t Dismiss the Possibility of Gold Confiscation

Guest Post by Jeff Thomas

If you hold precious metals in your portfolio, there is a good chance you fear hyperinflation and the crash of fiat currencies.

You probably distrust governments in general and believe they are self-serving and have no interest in your economic well-being. It is likely that your holdings in gold are your lifeline – your hope to get you through these times while holding on to your wealth.

But have you ever given any thought to the possibility of having this lifeline confiscated by the authorities?

In my conversations with friends and associates, I have often raised this question. The typical responses:

“They’d never do that.”

“I’ll deal with that if and when it happens.”

“I just wouldn’t give it to them.”

I consider these “wishful thinking” responses.

It’s an interesting thought that the greatest threat to gold and silver investment might not be the possibility of losing on the speculation, but the government taking it away from you. It’s a thought that I’ve found few want to even think about, let alone discuss.

If you fall into this camp, you’re in good company. Some of the forecasters whom I respect most highly also treat it either as unlikely or at best, “something we may need to look at in the future.” To date, in conversing with top advisors worldwide, the two primary reasons they believe gold will not be confiscated are:

  1. “Confiscation would mean the government acknowledges the reality of the value of gold.”

Yes, this is quite so. They would be changing their official view… which, of course, they do all the time. But I submit that all that they need to do is put the proper spin on it.

  1. “They would meet greater resistance than they did back in ’33.”

I expect that this is also true, but that a plan will be put in place to deal with that resistance.

We’ll address both of these assertions in more detail shortly, but first, a bit of history.

In 1933, Franklin Roosevelt came into office and immediately created the Emergency Banking Act, which demanded that all those who held gold (other than personal jewelry) turn it in to approved banks. Holders were given less than a month to do this. The government then paid them $20.67 per ounce – the going rate at the time. Following confiscation, the government declared that the new value of gold was $35.00. In essence, they arbitrarily increased the value of their newly purchased asset by 69%. (This alone is reason enough to confiscate.)

Today, the US government is in much worse shape than it was in 1933, and it has much more to lose. The US dollar is the default currency of the world, but it’s on the ropes, which means the US economic power over the rest of the world is on the ropes.

I think that readers will agree that they will do anything to keep from losing this all-important power.

The US government has essentially run out of options. At some point, the fiat currencies of the First World will collapse, and some other form of payment will be necessary. Yes, the IMF is hoping to create a new default currency, but that, too, is to be a fiat currency. If any country were to produce a gold-backed currency in sufficient supply, that currency would likely become the desired currency worldwide. Fractional backing would be expected.

As most readers will know, the Chinese, Indians, Russians, and others see the opportunity and are building up their gold reserves quickly and substantially. If these countries were to agree to introduce a new gold-backed currency, there can be little doubt that they would succeed in changing the balance of world trade.

That said, the US government is watching these countries just as we are, and they are aware of the threat of gold to them.

The US government ostensibly has approximately 8,200 tonnes of gold in Fort Knox, although this may well be partially or completely missing. Additionally, it ostensibly holds a further 5,000 tonnes of gold in the cellar of the New York Federal Reserve building. Again, there is no certainty that it is there. In general, the authorities don’t seem to like independent audits.

In fact, there are rumors that the above vaults are nearly or completely empty and that the above quoted figures exist only on paper rather than in physical form. While there is no way to know this for sure, it’s not out of the question.

Either way, if the US and the EU could come up with a large volume of gold quickly, they could issue a gold-backed currency themselves. It’s a simple equation: The more gold they have = the more backed notes they can produce = the more power they continue to hold. By seizing upon the private supply of their citizens, they would increase their holdings substantially in short order.

Either that or they could just give up their dominance of world trade and power… What would you guess their choice would be?

It is entirely possible that the US government (and very likely the EU) has already made a decision to confiscate. They may have carefully laid out the plan and have set implementation to coincide with a specific gold price.

So how would this unfold? Let’s imagine a fairly extreme scenario and ask ourselves if it could be pulled off effectively:

  • The evening news programs announce that the economic recovery is being hampered by wealthy private investors who, by hoarding gold, are skewing the value of the dollar and threatening the middle and poorer classes. The little man is being made to suffer while the rich get richer. A press campaign to equate gold ownership with greed ensues.
  • The government announces the Second Emergency Banking Act, advising the public that “the first EBA was instituted by FDR to solve this same problem during the Great Depression. This act was instrumental in helping the little man ‘recover.’” (As the average man on the street doesn’t know his history nor how wrong this statement is, he’ll believe it. Besides, the announcement has a “feel-good” message, and that’s all that matters.)
  • Possessors of gold, who make up a small minority of the population, would become pariahs. It won’t matter that the guy who owns two gold Maple Leafs is not exactly a greedy, rich man. No one will wish to be seen as resisting confiscation. Neither will they wish to go to prison for resisting, no matter how remote the possibility.
  • The US pays for the gold in US dollars, which are rapidly headed south. Yes, the Fed will need to print more fiat dollars in order to pay them off, but this suits their purpose, as it inflates the dollar even more. Those who have turned in their gold will do whatever they can to unload the US dollars as quickly as possible and will need to find another investment at a time when there are very few trustworthy investments other than gold. The stock market would likely rise, showing the public how the gold confiscation program is “working.”
  • One last scary possibility: The government demands that gold is turned in immediately and that settlement will occur following confiscation. After confiscation, it announces that, as there has been such a large number of cases of rich people ripping off the little man, processing them all could take months, possibly even a year or more. A further announcement states that some investors have made an unreasonable profit on the backs of the poor and that they should not be granted this profit. This profit must be returned to the people. (You can almost hear the cheers of the people.) Then it sets about making assessments. The bureaucrats find that most investors do not have formal, acceptable receipts for every coin in their possession. So if you paid $1,200 for a Krugerrand a couple of years ago, you get paid $1,200. If you bought it at $250 in 1999, you get paid $250. But if you have no receipt in an acceptable form, you get a “fair,” median payment, say, $500, regardless of when you bought it.
  • Appeals: Each investor will be allowed up to one year to appeal the decision of the Treasury as to what is owed him. Of course, the investor knows that the dollar is sinking rapidly and that he would be wise to shut up and take what he is being offered.

Again, this hypothetical scenario is an extreme one. The reader is left to consider just how likely or unlikely this scenario is and what that would mean to his wealth.

But bear this in mind: If the above scenario were to take place soon, the average citizen would have mixed feelings. They would be glad that the “evil rich” had been taken down a peg, but they would worry about the idea of the government taking things by force, because they might be next. It would therefore be in the government’s interests to implement confiscation only after the coming panic sets in – after the next crash in the market, after it becomes plain to the average citizen that this really is a depression and he really is in big trouble. Then he will be only too glad to see the “greedy rich” go down, and he won’t care about the details.

As terrible as the thought is, it seems unlikely to me that the government will not confiscate gold, as they have little to lose and so much to gain.

Those who own gold would prefer to think that this cannot happen, but they have quite a lot riding on that hope and precious little evidence to support it.

It is entirely possible that this scenario will not take place, just as it is possible that confiscation will not take place. The purpose of this article is to spark some serious discussion – both for and against the possibility.

Investors are, by their very nature, planners. It may take a community of investors to develop a legal plan to deal with the above eventuality. Time to get started.

The government can’t easily confiscate what’s outside its own borders, which is why it’s working night and day to make it as difficult as possible for you to protect your assets abroad. This sad reality means that you need to take action before it’s too late. Your first step? Learn how to start internationally diversifying your wealth – and your life. From investing in international markets and opening offshore bank accounts to setting up an offshore LLC or annuity.

Editor’s Note: Unfortunately, there’s little any individual can practically do to change the trajectory of broke governments in need of more cash. There are still steps you can take to ensure you survive the turmoil with your money intact.

That’s precisely why bestselling author Doug Casey and his colleagues just released an urgent new PDF report that explains what could come next and what you can do about it. Click here to download it now.

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30 Comments
Paleocon
Paleocon
September 4, 2023 2:36 pm

It is still hard to believe FDR was able to pull off confiscation even back in 1933.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Paleocon
September 4, 2023 5:26 pm

White people still thought they lived in a real country then, and carried a misplaced sense of duty to a government that hated them.

We know better now.

Free Slave
Free Slave
  Anonymous
September 4, 2023 9:30 pm

Well said. Bravo.

Tr4head
Tr4head
  Paleocon
September 4, 2023 8:56 pm

Anything goes when breadlines are 2 blocks long. Many became Socialists and even Communists.

But 1 of 4, TOTALLY legit 'elections'
But 1 of 4, TOTALLY legit 'elections'
September 4, 2023 2:51 pm

“In 1933, Franklin Roosevelt came into office and immediately created the Emergency Banking Act, which demanded that all those who held gold…”

SAME as it EVER was.

Sincerely, Seize the Gold 1st. Worry about due process later.

old dog
old dog
  But 1 of 4, TOTALLY legit 'elections'
September 4, 2023 3:15 pm

They are doing the same thing with our firearms. The question is which will be first. I suggest that when the firearms are confiscated then the gold is a slam dunk.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
September 4, 2023 3:13 pm

How many got locked up for not giving up their gold?

mark
mark
  YourAverageJoe
September 4, 2023 3:45 pm

Salt of the Earth Joe for the bullseye!

FDR choked all the gullible puppies and all the hungry desperate…22% of the American Gold was turned in and most of those submitting were Democrats in big Blue Cities…sound familiar?

The rest went into hiding…and it’s legacy value was tremendous for many read the comments in the vid below.

ROOSEVELT’S GOLD
(Originally posted in 2007)

“Well, suppose they confiscate my gold just like Roosevelt did 75 (90) years ago?” If I have heard that once, I must have heard it a hundred times. Did Roosevelt confiscate everyone’s gold back in 1933? If he did, how come there’s still a lot of it for sale in coin shops and Colorado Gold?

The Bankster Demonic Pawn, FDR, is in the deep dive details:

MOUR: https://www.coloradogold.com/2023/07/24/roosevelts-gold-3/

This is a great historic summary and resource.

HOW MUCH GOLD WAS CONFISCATED IN 1933? – GOLD CONFISCATION HISTORY, EXECUTIVE ORDER 6102

Bullwinkle
Bullwinkle
September 4, 2023 3:22 pm

When the “Government” decides to take your Gold, they will not give you the “Market” price.
You would only get the “Statutory Price” of $42.22, irregardless of Inflation.
That is how the FED value their Gold holdings.
$42.22 has been the “Statutory Price” or “Legal Price” for as long as I can remember.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Bullwinkle
September 4, 2023 3:32 pm

Feds: “Coin has a face value of $50. Here is your $50”

BL
BL
  Anonymous
September 4, 2023 4:02 pm

Bullwinkle and Anon- If that’s true, hammer your gold into bracelets and set some stones in it, a cuff bracelet would not be hard to make, let your wife wear your wealth on her arm. India has been doing this for eons. Problem solved.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BL
September 4, 2023 6:21 pm

Who’s to say they won’t take ALL gold, jewelry and all.

Bullwinkle
Bullwinkle
September 4, 2023 3:25 pm

Has anyone actually read FDRs Gold confiscation order.
I have not read it in a long time but in the Executive Order, you could keep 5 gold Coins.
Few if any actually READ and rely on rumor.

Free Slave
Free Slave
  Bullwinkle
September 4, 2023 3:52 pm

So you just had to surrender your entire retirement nest egg, except for $10k in today’s dollars. That’s all.

Pure theft.

Free Slave
Free Slave
September 4, 2023 3:48 pm

Back in 1933 gold was everyday currency. Everybody had some. The government made a good haul by robbing every citizen of their pocket change and retirement savings.

Who has gold now? How much gold would the government get today? Not much I suspect. Would it be enough to pay their bills for a day? A week?

Why would they bother? Greed that’s why.

BL
BL
September 4, 2023 3:56 pm

Photos of the lines of Americans who SOLD their gold to the government did not look like a confiscation to me. Like Covid vaxx shots Americans willfully lined up and VOLUNTEERED, there is a big difference.

Melty
Melty
September 4, 2023 4:45 pm

Doesn’t make sense. Assuming 5k tons at Ft Knox, at spot it’s only $320B. They spend that much in a month

overthecliff
overthecliff
September 4, 2023 5:31 pm

This may or may not happen. Just know that they will do whatever they think they have to do to stay in power. They will use guns to do it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  overthecliff
September 4, 2023 7:23 pm

Bullshit. Every spineless sociopath working for the feds who knows how to shoot a gun would be wasted inside of 48 hours by the current population of pissed-off, armed to the teeth patriots. The government is going bankrupt, those who caused it will be brought to justice and there’s nothing they can do about it.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Anonymous
September 4, 2023 8:33 pm

Wish you were right.

Tr4head
Tr4head
September 4, 2023 8:54 pm

Casey is BS. He is trying to move people from PMs to Bitc, which is nearly a guaranteed total loss because we know they will make all forms of crypto illegal once they roll out the CB version that is trackable and programmable.
My idea is just to secede and take our PMs with us as we create the absolutely necessary parallel economies.

well_Inever
well_Inever
  Tr4head
September 5, 2023 2:49 am

“My idea is just to secede…” That would be the best and I’ve thought along those lines also. Although without Civil War which would have to include at least some of the military I don’t see how’d it’d be possible.

mark
mark
September 4, 2023 10:09 pm

Hmmm…I wonder what all the none captured owned by the banksters pundits are saying???

https://www.youtube.com/@MoneySenseOfficial/videos

Nord
Nord
  mark
September 5, 2023 1:38 am

There was reputed to be a crap load of gold coins in European banks at the time of the EO, and when they saw what was going down, these banks just shoved it to the back of the vault. Gold is Gold. Deal with it later.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 5, 2023 1:55 am

It would only be a drop in the bucket for the hundreds of Trillions outstanding, the only reason they would do it is to piss off the kind of responsible Americans left moreso than they already have.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 5, 2023 5:11 am

I heard commedian Jimmy Dorr say yesterday that the US needs a revolution. So we had the Ron Paul Revolution, the Bernie Sanders Revolution, then the Donald Trump MAGA Revolution. How many revolutions can we have before we have a revolution?

Obbledy
Obbledy
September 5, 2023 8:23 am

FAFO!……

WilliamtheResolute
WilliamtheResolute
September 5, 2023 2:21 pm

The Central Banks hold most of the gold, the average American only has some jewelry…and damn little bullion.

Jdog
Jdog
September 5, 2023 2:55 pm

The government has no interest in gold confiscation. There is not enough of it in private hands to amount to anything that would interest government. What interests the government is total control over the masses, and they will achieve that through CBDC’s. The universal use of CBDC’s will be accomplished using UBI and free money give away’s.
The coming depression will wipe out any wealth or assets that has debt attached to it, or is subject to market valuations, and put millions out of work.
After that people will happily accept UBI and agree to be paid in CBDC’s… but there will be conditions attached.
Most people have already given up their freedom by taking on debt, to finance a lifestyle they cannot afford. Now the trap is set, and all they need to do is create the economic crisis to spring it.
The economic crisis will wipe out almost all home equity, and the value of retirement accounts, leaving people destitute, but still owing the balance on mortgages, autos, student loans, etc.
After that most people will be living in government subsidized apartments, buying groceries with EBT, accepting UBI and taking whatever employment the government offers them as part of the agreements they digitally sign to get their benefits.
To qualify for government paid healthcare you will obey all mandates including vaccinations, or you will be cut off.
Your CBDC digital wallet will be monitored and restrictions on what and how much you are able to purchase will be in effect. You will not really need a car, because you can order what you need online and have it delivered. If you work, the government will provide you with a car pool service for transportation. Of course due to your enrolment in UBI, you will as a condition, agree to accept whatever pay you receive in the form of CBDC.
Failure to comply with government mandates, will be a violation of your voluntary agreement to receive UBI benefits and therefore cause you to forfeit some or all of your benefits in your digital wallet as the government decides.
You will be able to increase your benefits, by maintaining a high social score, while a low social score will result in your benefits being reduced.