Submitted by Keith M.
A prominent gun safe company has come under fire after admitting that it voluntarily provided the access code for a customer’s safe to the FBI.
Liberty Safe’s attempt to explain why the company readily surrendered a January 6 protester’s code has not gone over well, prompting critics to threaten giving the company “the Bud Light treatment.”
What’s the background?
Nathan Earl Hughes, 34, was arrested on Aug. 30 in Fayetteville, Arkansas, on felony and misdemeanor charges.
According to the Biden Department of Justice, Hughes, spotted wearing an “Infowars”-branded Space Force shirt in the vicinity of the Lower West Terrace tunnel at the Capitol on Jan. 6, allegedly “helped other rioters physically fight police in an attempt to breach the line and enter the U.S. Capitol building.”
Extra to his social media posts, the Arkansas Times indicated that the FBI was able to identify Hughes on the basis of the “distinct notches at the top of his ears.”
Hughes is apparently known to the twin conservative commentators Keith and Kevin Hodge, who claimed on X, “Last week, a friend of ours was raided by the feds over J6.”
“Nate was raided by the FBI and arrested at gun point. His girlfriend (who just had a miscarriage) was held at gun point and put in handcuffs. The FBI turned off his security cameras, unplugged his internet, and flipped his house upside down in a search,” stated the Hodgetwins account. “The feds called the manufacturer of his Liberty Gun Safe and got the passcode to get into it too. All for protesting at the Capitol over 2 1/2 years ago.”
Video of Hughes’ arrest shows at least five armed federal agents taking him into custody.
A second video shows a cavalcade of cars pulling up to what is apparently Hughes’ property ahead of a raid made easier by Liberty Safe’s compliance.
Not so safe
Just over 24 hours after the Hodgetwins detailed what had happened on X, Liberty Safe confirmed in social media posts on Instagram, Facebook, and X that the company provided the FBI with the pass code.
“On August 30, 2023, Liberty Safe was contacted by the FBI requesting the access code to the safe of an individual for whom they had a warrant to search their property. Our company protocol is to provide access codes to law enforcement if a warrant grants them access to a property,” said the statement. “After receiving the request, we received proof of the valid warrant, and only then did we provide them with an access code. Liberty Safe had no knowledge of any of the details surrounding the investigation at the time.”
Notwithstanding its apparent eagerness to crack its own safe for the benefit of the state, the company noted, “Liberty Safe is devoted to protecting the personal property and 2nd amendment rights of our customers and has repeatedly denied requests for access codes without a warrant in the past. We do not give out combinations without proper legal documentation being provided by authorities.”
The company, whose safes in many cases cost several thousands of dollars, concluded by reiterating, “Liberty Safe is committed to preserving our customers’ rights, and we will remain unwavering in those values.”
As its name would suggest, Liberty Safe specializes in gun safes.
On its website, the company states, “We understand the importance of safeguarding what matters to you — and with our collection of gun safes, you can enjoy peace of mind that comes with knowing that you’re protected by the very best America has to offer.”
That Hughes’ peace of mind was disturbed by the company’s uncoerced help prompted outrage online.
Kyle Seraphin, a whistleblower who was an FBI special agent for six years until his suspension in June 2022, suggested, “The irony of the name [of the company] PLUS total cooperation with the government is rich.”
The Hodgetwins replied to the company’s statement, “And you call yourself ‘Liberty’?? Bout to get the Bud Light treatment.”
Turning Point Action COO Tyler Bowyer similarly seized upon the Bud Light parallel, writing, “New slogan: ‘The Bud Light of Safes!'”
“Absent a court order, you weren’t required to give them anything. You voluntarily gave out a combination over a warrant, per your own release, that didn’t apply to you or your property,” wrote Sean Davis, CEO of the Federalist. “Maybe start marketing your stuff as Bud Light storage.”
While many critics took issue with the company’s provision of its customer’s code, podcaster Tim Pool noted the issue that the company “had the codes in the first place,” stressing that “Liberty [S]afes are completely worthless.”
Others similarly puzzled over what good it was having a “wildly expensive *safe* if the manufacturer maintains secret back door access they can share with others without your consent.”
Since being slammed over its apparent betrayal of a customer’s trust, the company has disabled replies on its X posts.
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Two thoughts.
Why would anyone buy a safe, that is not safe?
The FBI is clearly out of control and needs to be defunded.
Bought on the assumption they were safe, only not safe from betrayal is the part the company left out.
“The cat’s out of the bag, Mr. Turner!” – Davy Jones, Dead Man’s Chest
This is why you use dial combo safes. The safe companies all have lockout codes for digital safes. I helped someone a few years ago with a Winchester safe they didn’t have combo to. We had to fill out a form with the safe serial # and provide bill of sale. They sent a code and instructions how to reset.
If the dial safes are fixes combos then it is guaranteed the manufacturer has the original combo matched to the serial. I supposed you could remove the serial.
Lots of resources expended with high tech methods to identify this guy for what exactly? J6 was theater.
That was among my first thoughts on the topic as well.
I’ll stick with a traditional safe with manual Sargent and Greenleaf locks, just like the ones at the bank I used to work at.
It would seem Liberty Safe does not believe in liberty for their customers, and the fact they can open one of their safes at any time, means their products are not safe at all.
I understand that they keep the combinations of the “safes” that they sell, in case a customer loses or forgets their combination, it’s a nice side hustle for them because they charge $25.00 a pop to send out that information which is most likely in a database that they can access in seconds.
That there’s apparently a backdoor code for electronic locks is disturbing, especially if it’s a universal code. Which would mean that no matter the fact that you can change a combination the “safe” will never be safe, because now the F̶B̶I̶ DNC has that code, they could open any liberty “safe” with an electric lock anytime they want. And how long before that code becomes widely disbursed among the criminal element of society?
Many safes can be defeated with a strong magnet.
Or pry bars. In 2.5 minutes:
About the best you can do is a jewelry grade safe. Probably $10K or more today. 6,000 lbs. Hardened steel everything. Angled plates inside to break drill bits etc. Of course if they have the combination and will give it to the VoPo’s, if that’s who you want kept out, you’re screwed.
I guess it was bought out by some ESG firm some years ago, so that explains why they didn’t so much as demand a specific warrant.
Still think you’re free?
If you have any inkling the Feds are coming, you fill up your safe with Biden/Harris signs, rainbow flags and “I ❤️ Merrick Garland” signs.
That is an option, sure. But something else would be funnier.
Lawn ornaments are a must, as well.
Awesome!!! Now I know why those things always creeped me out. Pink flamingos too.
When my inheritance comes in I’m investing heavily in both! It’s gonna look like nightmare disneyland up in my yard!
Ooops.
Liberty safe apparently retains the liberty to allow third parties into your safe.
Not very safe.
Seems like a short sighted business model, eh? But what do corporate vultures care? They are agents of the system.
There is a Sargent and Greenleaf replacement mechanical lock to replace the electronic Liberty locks. The Sargent and Greenleaf also lets you set your combination.
Is there a replacement if you already have the manual dial?
I’d be very interested in getting one.
LMGTFU
A safe?, not in my house. How can I show them off if they’re locked in a safe? Besides, if they get that far in your house, they’ll just confiscate the safe anyway. Teach your children to respect fire arms early in life.
And by the way, fuck Liberty Safe.
They are GUNS. It doesn’t get any safer than that! Why would I EVER want to impede my own access to them by even seconds?
Also? Fuck Liberty Safe Co.
The safe is where one stores all of their old broken guns waiting for buybacks or Fag Bureau raids.
Really I always found the concept ridiculous except maybe if you gotta be gone for a spell. All the pro’s I know did what you suggested.
Good idea to have mechanical access rather than electrical. EMP locks you out precisely when truly needed. Perhaps a Faraday cage is a solution.
Liberty claims that their electrical locks are hardened against an EMP.
Maybe they are, and maybe they aren’t. But I wouldn’t take their word for it. Better Safe than sorry, IMHO a mechanical lock would seem to be better.
https://www.libertysafe.com/blogs/the-vault/are-there-emp-resistant-safe-locks
It would be a cool show (if I still watched TV or had it) to test that out. How many people are going to rig up an EMP on their property to test it? “Hey guys, wanna help me move this 7,000 lb safe so I can try something?” “I have to do my hair that day, dude.”
Nothing is safe especially if you are white and protest in America NOTHING
Take note the majority of charged tried convicted and sentenced regarding the J6 protest deliberately falsely called an insurrection to promote and propagandize a lie are white males !
However BLM loot burn and destroy private and government property and many blacks who were arrested have been compensated with millions in payouts !
Obviously the attack by government against white men is untouched by media as we are now in a position of servitude and compliance OR ELSE !
The left has created a race war in America and all white men are their targets !
They didn’t have to create anything. It just happens when demographics get to certain levels. It is a well known pattern, except to the ignorant.
The FBI did not need the combo to the safe. They usually just cut the top off the safes they want to get into. By providing the combo, Liberty Safe prevented damage to the safe and to the room it is in. The typical safe can be cracked in less than 5 mins, with a long prybar, better safes, 15 mins. Look at the YouTubes of safes being opened with simple tools.
Even concealed safes can be located by using trained dogs. They alert on the odors of the oils and cleaners used on firearms.
That’s probably why they gave up the combo so fast.
Think how much brand damage Liberty “Safe” Co. would suffer if, in such a prominent case, the DNC’s thugs, commonly referred to as the FBI, were to have opened up the “Safe” as easily as a can of spam.
What if everything smells like gun oil?
Liberty Safe’s do not believe in liberty. LIBERTY SAFES is an oxymoron.
They are liberal with the combinations.
Thanks for the post Keith M.
Just sent a refund request to them.
BudLight it is…
Hmmmm….,wonder if liberty has a govt. contract that needs protecting?
They were unless more info. becomes available under NO legal obligation to help out the feebs.
Here is their contact info. if you have ?’s/comments you would like to direct at them yourself:
[email protected]
Gee.. I wonder which equity firm owns Liberty Safe & whose politics they support?
See here. 2nd bullet point.
Grew up in a beer brewing town.
Bud light is now being packaged in Busch lite cans
If I wanted to drink rice, I’d buy Saki. Their entire product line is shit.
Heineken, please.