Since the beginning of Covid, employees have gained a lot of leverage, benefiting from remote work options and higher wage demands. However, this favorable period may be coming to an end. Some corporate executives now call workers “lazy,” with one exec suggesting that economic pain will be needed to “remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around.”
At an investor conference hosted by Morgan Stanley on Wednesday, Barry Biffle, CEO of budget airlines Frontier Group Holdings Inc., said, “We got lazy in Covid. I mean, seriously, people are still allowing people to work from home. All this silliness, right?”
Biffle’s comments highlight the push by corporate America to impose more strict in-office mandates after productivity declines materialized shortly after the proliferation of remote work.
“When we look at overhead versus 2019 adjusted for capacity, it’s up dramatically,” he said, adding, “Why do I have more people per plane in overhead than I had in 2019? It’s because they’re not as productive.”
“Look, we’re not alone in this. You hear every company out there talking about productivity challenges,” Biffle said.
Just before billionaire businessman Sam Zell passed away in late May, he called remote work “One of the biggest lies in the world is that people working from home are more productive than people working in the office.” He noted, “You have much less productivity if you’re working from home in your pajamas with three little kids running around than if you’re in an office.”
Others have voiced their concerns about lazy workers and a slide in productivity, and the next executive isn’t from the US but Australia.
According to The Sydney Morning Herald, property developer Tim Gurner called employees arrogant and warned unemployment must surge to revive productivity.
At a business event earlier this week, Gurner said Covid had a “massive effect” on productivity. He said, “The problem that we’ve had is that people decided they didn’t really want to work so much any more through COVID.”
Gurner offers a solution that no worker wants to hear:
“We need to see pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around. There’s been a systematic change where employees feel the employer is extremely lucky to have them, as opposed to the other way around. It’s a dynamic that has to change.”
These are very harsh comments from corporate elites who are angered by the shift in leverage workers have received. They now want revenge, which might be in the form of a downturn — where they can reduce wages and cut workers. Recall Walmart already kicked off the reduction in wages for new employees.
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Oh, the ego on these people.
Seems to me we need to see pain in the economy to remind these CEOs we’re not their slaves. Labor is a business expense. People have the freedom to chose not to work for you or half-ass their work if the job only pays the bare minimum. Increase in wages and promotions went away 20-30 years ago when businesses decided to offshore and hire illegal immigrants.
You’d have to be a fool to be loyal to these people or care about their bottom line.
And I’m sure the multi-ethnic stew they have already hired have not contributed in any way to the decline in productivity, it’s everybody and everything else but that. Like always.
Plus, it’s just so much harder to spy on workers when they’re not confined to their cubicles.
It’s also much harder to hassle workers over irrelevant bullshit too.
I LOVE that scene.
What she said, you assholes. GFY. You ain’t seen nothin’ yet. You fat cats have had it too good for too long, selling out your fellow Americans. If we had actual free markets, instead of Federal Reserve IV drip and cronyist “regulatory” agencies favoring the connected, a lot of you would never have made it to, or managed to stay, in the C-suites. You oughta see what work is, you whiny faggots. What, you can only afford half a grand Scotch now? Fuck off.
Oh, and P.S.: Anheuser, Disney, the razor guys, big sports, etc., who have woked themselves out of market share – fuck you too, suckers. What total spineless whores.. Die. Our last few dollars, pre-CBDC, will go to producers who deserve them. Like Goya’s CEO, for example.
The C-suites have created a Neo-feudalist system with their corporate titles being a new pseudo peerage system. They need to be reminded the USA doesn’t recognized their made up corporate titles of nobility.
Right on. And unlike ballots, our dollars will be counted.
And fuck your moronic downvoters above. What could their argument be?
They’re the same bootlickers who wore their masks in their cars while driving alone and said, “Jab me harder, Daddy” a couple years ago. Some people love their invisible cages.
A big Amen, SS.
I have said for decades why work and go broke when you can set on your ass and go broke?
that is the primary characteristic third world attitude.
Well said!
Great choice of the Gary Hoey video – I met him a few years ago at a meet & greet – total class act – wish he had greater success!
Too many women in high positions whose outlook on life is socialistic. My experience is that when women are not included in high level meetings they get bitter rather than more dedicated to their work, which is what men do. Furthermore, in high level meetings where women are present the dynamic changes for the worse. Men are far more energetic about making money-making decisions for the company rather than fairness, equality and you-name-it. I love women. I don’t want them in meetings where manly decisions are to be made. And I particularly don’t like “manly women” in any case. Men are men and women are women and fuck a bunch of equality. They are not equal and each has a role to play in life to which they are best suited, naturally. Look at the Nineteenth Amendment and where we are today because of it.
I give you this: “You’d have to be a fool to be loyal to these people or care about their bottom line.”
If you want to be a corporate bootlicker and foolhardily lead other men down that road in the name of “real masculinity” you’re welcome to do so. It’ll be your tax money that’s subsidizing your corporate slave masters. Oops, I mean… your alpha males.
If I want to be a “corporate boolicker.” What the hell are you saying? But there it is, a bitter woman wanting to make things better by being antagonized and in an uproar about masculinity. Sure things have gone to hell in many areas of life in America, yet do we look at real reasons or just the ones where Congress, full of women, and voters, more women than men, have made of society? What has this done to masculinity, by laws and societal movement instigated by women, the very species men who are masculine are born to protect? Well, you bitter women are reaping what you have sown, but everyone under the sun is going to suffer hardily. Socialism has never ever led to good, only bad. Wake the fuck up.
Enjoy your slavery dude. Good luck exiting that mental prison you’ve constructed for yourself. So Alpha male! Grrr…
Women are welcome to power once they show they can consistently put down the seat for themselves without complaining, insulting, virtue signalling, or shaming men.
There are no employees because women have decided that riding the cock carousel and having status as a “career” woman is more important than having babies
Spoken like a bitter and busted up carnival ride. Women can’t ride the cock carousel without willing man whores. Maybe men should commit themselves to abstinence. You know… for the benefit of society and to keep the economy going.
SS
You are absolutely right why would any man want to associate with a career slut whore and catch an incurable STI from her Petri dish pussy.
There are no employees because the good ones were killed off with the clotshot or sent out to pasture for being over 50. Only the best and brightest coming across the border so the CEOs can enjoy training functional retards.
No, not my Life Partner. Retired as Board Secretariat & Chief Compliance Officer of ING Americas. (Now VOYA®).
She got fired in Hendricks Co. IN. No divorced people could teach K-5, in 1986! Wound up in Dunwoody/ATL in 1990. ING put her through MBA/JD at GA State. Cum laude.
She’s rather succulent. And, Beaufort SC is the best plce to live in the US. Unless you can afford to live South Of Broad (SOB) in Charleston, which goes for $1,000+/sq ft).
Another soulless mba suit. The worst type of scumbags around. Created nothing except to try to manipulate the people who actually make things. No matter the money, still a nothing. He’ll a gangster has lots of money too.
Listened to this last night. I knew they were lying about inflation but this guy includes things like taxes. Very eye opening. Everyone should listen to this.
I read this on ZH this morning, my heart soared to hear that the CEO’s have their panties in a wad over low production. WHO made the workers mask up , get the vax, and lockdown? Coroporate America doing the biding of the NWO and their depop plandemic. Prices have risen and not commuting saves money, big money better used for the family. Nothing would make me happier than to see these asshats go belly up for being the henchmen in lockstep without so much as a peep of dissent. Karma bitchez, eat that big fat karma shit sammich and choke.
BL here…..
I wonder how many households have become single earner households since the pandemic and high inflation have increased the incentive to have someone stay home managing the household. Affordable childcare and the expense of owning a second car has probably affected a lot of families.
And put people on the STREETS,oh,but those are just poor planners and don’t deserve compassion!,particularly from people like yourself…..I have seen NEW HOMES where people up and left because they couldn’t afford it anymore
Good people,regular people,people with kids……GOD knows where they went…..
Yeah honey shits REAL and your a little late to the party…..
Fuck off. You don’t know me.
You’re right,I don’t …………or do I?..let me guess “don’t put you in a box”?…..right?….
“…not commuting saves money”
Big money. And besides, by not commuting, not making a full change of office clothing dirty, not buying lunch or making plasticware dirty taking leftovers to work, and, truth be told, sometimes not showering on wfh days, think of all the planet-killing energy and water I’m not using.
And as for the “your lives were saved to serve this ship; row well and live” crowd: fuck you. Fuck you five times. I deal with some rich people in my job, and they are noticing working people aren’t willing to take their narcissistic shit anymore. And they’re very observably not liking it.
“wish economic misery to remind them who’s boss”
who has more control over production/access to necessary goods – execs or rank-and-file?
proletarians of all countries unite!
/s ?
of course ceo’s have big egos. they’re successful. complaints come from people who are not successful like them.
The article is a list of complaints BY those CEOs.
Reading comprehension.
Also, where the fuck do these ceo assholes live? Heard that bud light bitch lives in a 8 million dollar apt in NYC. I’m sure she has so many connections to her product and customers. Mbas are the scum of the earth. Fuck em and their complaints.
they would say you’re envious.
Then that bitch and the other MBA fucks can get off their fat asses and make a product that they have no connection. Good luck like those mba bitches in detroit.
I’m sure that see you necmxt Tuesday loves her wome light beer while swallowing preppy goodness at Princeton. Mbas are the soulless suits of america. The worst people around.
Jealousy is temporary……being and “educated idiot” seems to be FOREVER!
I have yet to meet one that can be nudged from something some freakin professor told him forty years ago…….
Oh, she has connections, all right, does Ms.
HeinerscheidHorseface, and she did her mitzvah, by getting people to notice that Dylan tranny and making her shitty beer be promoted by any means (bad press is still press). The whole thing was a targeted marketing event that was pulled off to further two agendas, the globohomos and the Madison Avenue Irregulars.That it was for the globos is obvious; but the MAIs are devious: they took a product whose demographic was getting older, and they know how the kids are indoctrinated nowadays towards all this fag nonsense, so they figured, “How do we get the kids to drink this?”
Well, by making the older ones look like they are a bunch of stupid bigots for boycotting their vile concoction because of the homo crap, that’s how. So now, youngsters will think they are being all hip and edgy by drinking that whatever-it-is, to really show those racist rednecks how much better they are because of their enlightenment, encouraged by the press.
Their strategy worked, didn’t it? Horseface got the credit because she was head of the marketing team; nobody lost any money, they killed two birds with one stone; they did the same thing they did with CONVID: sacrificed the old to get to the young.
Enjoy your 3 minutes of hate.
I just wonder what the propaganda purpose is. Maybe just for people to blow off steam…or, ‘eat the rich’ feelings, or take your mind off the UN/WHO/WEC and, of course Covid. I mean really they can just reinstate the online people if they want.
Some doctors etc. are still only on zoom (especially Medicare related). Talk about ridiculous.
zoom is very efficient, on their end.
Of course it works for them. All they do nowadays is feed your symptoms into the computer and it spits out the drugs to prescribe. At least by Zoom you won’t get brow beat to take the vaxxes.
But really fuck all the doctors- you can heal most things wrong with you by cleaning up your diet and even moderate exercise. Carnivore diet is best
Works for me.
It depends on what you perceive the job to be.
Efficiency = doing the job right
Effectiveness = doing the right job
Hope you don’t get sick.
As the economy weakens, I assume employers will gain more leverage. It is what it is. My feeling about working from home is that it’s fine as long as the worker doesn’t use their remote status as a way to avoid communication. Answer the phone. Reply to emails quickly.
“employers will gain more leverage”
so employers own/control/direct the economy more than the laborers?
Of course- they are higher on the food chain- who gets laid off first- the lower ranks. The big boys all have nest eggs built up so even if they get canned they are better off than average Joe who works pay check to pay check. Be your own boss- there are thousands of ways to make money without working for the man.
Funny how it never occurs to them that the office being a hellhole already is WHY they don’t want to return.
What he really means is why aren’t these slaves toiling like they used to.
Everyone in America should be lazy. These corporations hate us and are just salivating to replace us all with AI.
1. “Work from home” is inefficient because most people are not self-directed.
2. Large corporations are like standing armies. They deviate inevitably from their initial purpose into self-promoting, self-protecting, power-gathering activities. Though they may have begun as liberators, they end as oppressors.
3. People employed by these large entities as ever seek to adapt so as to mitigate the oppression. Ironically, it is the power of these large entities that enables inefficiencies like “work from home.”
4. Nothing is new under the sun.
These CEOs who couldn’t make themselves a cup of coffee or do their own laundry without help are sh*tting their pants with fear. Who will fly their private jets??? Who will serve them their wagyu beef with gold sprinkles in restaurants??? Who will clean their mansions??? Who will fix their cars, washing machines, clean their swimming pools??? Oh, the trauma.
It should be fun watching AI fly the private jets. It works out just great with the driverless cars. Or maybe they can rely on one of those high value migrants to fly them?
The Constitution is NOT to provide ANY particular group MORE RIGHTS than anybody else….PARTICULARLY businesses and corporations!…..this usurps the RIGHTS of The People!….don’t tell me what kind of society we live in……we went from agrarian self sufficiency to DOLLAR SLAVE.and this was called progress….
Lots of people worked from home before CONvid. My husband has worked from home since 2015. I went to work for Fedex in 2006 and they already had customer service agents working from home and had a goal to close all of their customer service offices and all agents working from home.
It’s not for everyone. Some people will inevitably slack off, usually the same people who would be slackers in the office. One can slack just as easily in the office it just takes a little creativity. Personally, I would not have liked to work from home as an agent. I would have quit.
If these corporate execs hate their workers so much then replace them with AI and see how that goes. I think it will not work out like they would like it to. AI is a big scam. It is useful for some tasks but you can’t replace everyone with AI. I think they know that and they are pissed.
I think these corporate execs would like to go back to the feudal system.
Maybe we need to give them the bad economy they are pining for. As someone commented, most of them can do nothing for themselves.
Did the CEO of Frontier airlines not get the memo? Our overlords plan to try to lock us down again. They want to destroy small business and eliminate many mid-level corporations. People will work from home so they can be more easily controlled. Think 15-minute cities. He probably didn’t get the memo because his crap ass airline is probably slated for elimination by our overlords.
And how productive are these C-suite level bastards? Corporate management has been a disaster for at least the last few decades. Corporate debt is at an all time high, service quality at an all time low. The only reason these companies remain profitable is because they are the winners of the oligopoly sweepstakes.
That, and a decade of free money (which is ending).