IS ANYONE TELLING THE TRUTH?

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zappalives
zappalives
October 15, 2023 8:14 am

Is this the “rules based international order” I keep hearing democrats bleating about ?

Obbledy
Obbledy
  zappalives
October 15, 2023 9:26 am

Yup,whatever they say it is,oh Grand Wazooo!….

zappalives
zappalives
  Obbledy
October 15, 2023 9:48 am

Who you jivin with that cosmic debris ?
Little known Zappa quote……….
“To me,a cigarette is food.I live my life smoking these things and drinking the “black water” in this cup here” !

kiwi
kiwi
  zappalives
October 15, 2023 6:44 pm

the UN approved the jewish state in 1947, it is obvious to all the jews will never accept the arabs
it is time the UN forcefully removed the jews from palestine and restored the rightful owners,
the UN is responsible for whats happening its up to them to admit they made a mistake and fix it

Maty
Maty
  kiwi
October 15, 2023 11:47 pm

In actual UN 181 was not ratified because Israel wouldn’t define its borders.

javelin
javelin
October 15, 2023 8:22 am

Nope- nobody is telling the truth, all of these folks have an agenda ( one side or the other) and lie in some way–exaggeration, obfuscation, statistical manipulation, fake images, crisis actors, false narratives or blatant lying through their teeth.

Like the famous quote about repeat/repeat/repeat the lie often enough and it becomes accepted as fact- the masses generally pick a side and then believe any lie that supports their belief. Confirmation bias on steroids.

I fully believe Israel knew about the “planned attack”- I won’t go so far as asserting it was a false flag because I haven’t seen proof ( although motive and opportunity are both established).

However I have also visited both Gaza and the West Bank ( the church of the nativity/Bethlehem are both in Palestinian land). Gaza has some beautiful Mediterranean resorts, a gold district, large open air markets where I strolled unaffected and unaccosted. Most of Gaza and the West Bank areas we drove through and visited were very similar to the decaying inner cities of America–but with far less violence, drugs and murders. Israel neighborhoods are like the suburbs with well maintained bldgs, painted, repaired and clean–Gaza has muslim graffiti on any bldg surface, they throw their garbage on the ground, litter is the norm–looks like Baltimore, Detroit, any NJ town over 100,000 people, St Louis, New Orleans etc.

The military patrols are evident– just as we see security guards and police strolling/driving around with guns, they use the conscripted and they are uniformed and have machine guns. The old city of Jerusalem have groups of 3-4 machine gun holding men every few blocks and it actually feels safer than walking through Chicago, much less death there too.

Take this for what it’s worth– Gaza conditions aren’t as bad as told but it is impoverished and they produce nothing– total dependents on UN/international/Israeli handouts. Israel is illegally building all over the West Bank- not unlike how Chinese keep acquiring a chunk here and a chunk there of US farmlands and businesses. Tens of thousands of Palestinians work in Israel, crossing checkpoints daily– the process of traveling between is less invasive than a TSA screening, simply provide the ID/document.

Enough from me, the point is that it sucks for the Palestinians but the exaggeration of a giant prison camp is a form of lie– they have food, they have free medical care and housing, much like our hoods in the USA.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  javelin
October 15, 2023 9:35 am

I’m with you. This Karen is telling HALF the story and demanding you take her side WHILE lying, omitting and exaggerating facts surrounding events.

And frankly, I still don’t understand how a putz like Joe Rogan enjoys such notoriety. He is not a smart man at all. Just another Joey Bog O Donuts sellin’ an agenda of his own…get rich quick.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  javelin
October 15, 2023 10:02 am

She lost me when she said America was controlled by evangelical Christians. More complete and utter nonsense was never spewed from a very biased mouth. I have no use for any group in the Middle East. They are two sides of the same coin when it comes to lies and pushing agendas…

bidenTouchesKids
bidenTouchesKids
  Mygirl....maybe
October 15, 2023 10:04 am

Same here. Last I checked those in power celebrated arsonists who burn down churches, not to mention them making going to church illegal during the covid crazy.

aka.attrition
aka.attrition
  Mygirl....maybe
October 15, 2023 11:58 am

She lost me when she said “like” for, like, the 94th time, like …

fujigm
fujigm
  aka.attrition
October 15, 2023 2:16 pm

That’s some attrition.
I drop anything after the 3rd “like”…

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  fujigm
October 15, 2023 8:12 pm

You now have 7 likes so I guess I will have to drop you. 😉

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TN Patriot
October 15, 2023 11:04 pm
Anonymous
Anonymous
  aka.attrition
October 16, 2023 5:48 am

Like I don’t like like it when like people say like like?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl....maybe
October 16, 2023 5:45 am

Yes those darn evangelicals pushing the LGBTQ+ agenda and abortion are the problem!!!
(do I really need a sarc? Probably, some people never get it)

Anonymous
Anonymous
  javelin
October 15, 2023 10:52 am

the exaggeration of a giant prison camp is a form of lie– they have food, they have free medical care and housing

Not disagreeing with what you say overall, but those are things provided in prison. Three hots and a cot, so to speak.

Javelin
Javelin
  Anonymous
October 15, 2023 11:37 am

Also provided to about 25 percent of the US population. Plus the gazans can leave if they have the means or anyone willing to take them.

Gadsden flag
Gadsden flag
October 15, 2023 11:09 am

It is said “the first casualty of war is the truth”.

The dogs of war sniff their way through the fog.

But what is truth? What purpose did it serve if it delivers war and then suffers a “casualty”.

The first casualty of truth is forgetfulness.

thetruthonly
thetruthonly
October 15, 2023 11:25 am

I believe the line where she says Israel hates Palestinians. Maybe it’s because they (“they” meaning Hamas) teach little kids to grow up to be suicide bombers ?

aka.attrition
aka.attrition
  thetruthonly
October 15, 2023 12:30 pm

Yes, yes, that makes sense and explains everything. They breed children for the purpose of making suicide bombers. Sounds legit.

Djames
Djames
  thetruthonly
October 15, 2023 3:31 pm

Let me help you out! Hamas is an Israeli Mossad creation. Used to counter the PLO and Fatah. Israel wants most of the Middle East in order to expand the Greater Israel project. Look it up if you dare to learn the truth!

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 15, 2023 2:06 pm

I am:

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 16, 2023 5:44 am

IS ANYONE TELLING THE TRUTH?
Does anyone fully and truly know the truth?