“The Dresden atrocity, tremendously expensive and meticulously planned, was so meaningless, finally, that only one person on the entire planet got any benefit from it. I am that person. I wrote this book, which earned a lot of money for me and made my reputation, such as it is. One way or another, I got two or three dollars for every person killed. Some business I’m in.” – Kurt Vonnegut
So it goes.
Whenever they tell you it can’t be done in the modern age, show them Dresden. What’s been achieved in Dresden is the most inspiring architectural feat for decades. Everything you see in the bottom image was built, from scratch, in the last 20 years. The city was a gem of German Baroque architecture, completely leveled by Allied bombings during WW2 – more than 80% of the buildings in the historic city center were either damaged or totally destroyed.
Heartbreakingly, the wonderful Frauenkirche (Church of Our Lady) lay in rubble for decades, under the East German communist regime which refused to rebuild it. It was left in a pile as a “memorial against war” for 50 years. When the Berlin Wall finally fell, the people endeavored to bring it back.
Work began in 1993 to piece the church back together, brick by brick; every stone in the pile was sorted and carried off to be analyzed. Except for the brand new dome, it was reconstructed using as much original stone as possible, to the exact specifications of the original (as much as could be pieced together from old photographs).
The work took 11 years, and in 2005, the Frauenkirche was reconsecrated – rising like a phoenix from the ashes. It was finished one year ahead of schedule and just in time for the city’s 800-year anniversary celebrations. In a remarkable gesture, the gilded orb and cross atop the new dome were crafted by an English goldsmith – whose father partook in the bombing of the city in 1945.
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I once spoke to a German lady who fled the city on foot as it burned. She was 15 miles from it and couldn’t turn to face the flames lest her face got burned. She lost her husband whose body, never found was likely incinerated to smoldering ash. What a friggen waste.
Unconscionable punishment upon Germany after war had essentially determined the ones who would write its historical account of What happened, and Why.
Who> is clouded.
Coming up on almost 80 years later, we are witnessing history repeat in Gaza.
Same perpetrators, or different? Too few have time to explore that rabbit hole. Sad.
And, how will the Gaza story be told to those fortunate kids yet to be born?
Accurately, or will it be crafted by those who bombed and burned the condemned?
Cycles.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Unconscionable because Dresden was not a military target, and it wasn’t ‘leveled’, it was fire-bombed, not to destroy the city but to cause as much pain, suffering and death to the German people as possible, just as the fire-bombing of Tokyo did not long after, not to achieve a military goal, but to cause mass death and horror. Gaza is no different.
Give a German a pile of bricks and…
Give an African a city..?
What one man can do, another man can do. If niggers can’t do it, what is that telling us?
That what one man can do, another can’t do.
Or that niggers aren’t men?
It’s really time to clear up this very mistaken all inclusive claim.
Overwhelmingly lopsidedly, it’s not ‘humanity’ that’s capable of ‘unspeakable horror’.
It’s MEN.
I’m tired of being included, my gender isn’t the overwhelmingly guilty perpetrator through all history.
The non-participant ‘good’ men? Most all ‘good’ men refuse to stand up to their fellow perps, turn their backs, let evil happen and let themselves be dominated by all the evil men.
Overwhelmingly lopsidedly….
MEN start all wars.
MEN are obsessed with obtaining power over others, but moreso, some joy in the ABUSE of that power.
MEN consider it an accomplishment to be able to effortlessly ignore their conscience.
MEN need to fight, kill, start conflict.
MEN abuse the vulnerable children, women and animals and are completely subservient to their dicks.
MEN love to see violence and blood.
MEN love to make laws for others they don’t have to abide by.
MEN are the equivalent of immature animals.
The exceptions are insignificant.
Overwhelmingly lopsidedly….All world’s unspeakable horrors are created by heartless, animalistic MALE creatures who see no need whatsoever to grow their soul.
Methinks you’re overlooking some obvious flaws in your attempt to establish a false premise. Let’s start with Hildabeast Clinton, a certified evil witch of the first order. And let’s examine the power mad ilk that make up many of the psychopathic governors, i.e., Michigan, New Mexico, New York, etc. Don’t think for a moment that these evil hags wouldn’t strike the match that would burn a decent society to the ground. And don’t forget their poster hag for gun confiscation; Dianne “alright Mr. and Mrs. America, turn’em all in” Feinstein. You will know them by their fruits.
Preventing the spread of evil was to be the duty of decent, White, Christian males, but, they have to date, failed miserably. The burden falls upon their shoulders, for through their willful ignorance of history, they’ve allowed the satanic Khazarian tribe to capture the world. May God have mercy upon our miserable souls.
how ’bout Victoria Nuland? That bitch has killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians alone. Or that horse-faced cunt from New Zealand, or Frelund in Canada. If women were the sole politicians, there wouldn’t be a person left alive.
Waves, get over hating all men just because no one wants to be with you
I expected a few shallow defensive types to leap to name a prominent few female exceptions who are VASTLY outnumbered historically by the millions and millions of men far, far, far more responsible for blood and power thirstiness.
The lopsided facts speak for themselves. Prove me wrong….FAIRLY.
Hillary,
Nuland, and
Albright were 3 of the most evil broads mentioned right out of the gate as rebuttals in this thread.
Further, I’ll nominate
-Nancy Pelosi;
-Diane Feinstein;
-Liz Cheney;
-Maxine Waters;
-Elizabeth Warren;
-Jacinda Ardern;
-Gretchen Whitmer;
-Kathy Hochil;
-Dana Nessel;
-Stacey Abrams; and
-Alexandria Occasional Cortex
as eleven more less-than-peaceful, cooperative women who toe the party line,
when more funding to Ukraine was voted upon, and surely to Israel. They all do what ZOG loyalists want them to do.
So, it seems you’re waving your hands hysterically, while grinding an axe
for men in general, Karen.
Call it a hunch, but, we wouldn’t be surprised if you are single, live alone,
have short hairstyle with some neon color dyed in, own a slew of cats, a size 48 waistline, and support progressive feminist causes, besides supporting SJW’s,
the transgender movement, illegal immigrants, and curtailing 2A rights.
You’ll wish more men with balls & guns be around when 2 or 3 migrants come and target you.
Here’s one more, to make it a dozen, Karen.
Great expose of your mind and how wrong it can be. If you read my history of posts here you will find that I don’t have one molecule of leftist Karen. All your other projections about me are so dead dead dead dead dead wrong to be laughable… a clue to your mind/lack thereof. It thinks making a list has any value of proof whatsoever despite completely leaving out what it’s being compared to.
I still say a REAL COMPARATIVE LIST would easily show that history is overwhelmingly lopsided with men INSTIGATING the preponderance of bloody, conscienceless and cruel violence of every kind. We now have centuries of documentation.
How about:
Golda Meir
Margaret Thatcher
Indira Ghandi
Elizabeth I
Mavia Of Arabia
Queen Victoria
Catherine The Great
Mary I
Empress Wu Zetian
And the list can go on.
The issue I tried hard to highlight was in the phrase ‘overwhelmingly lopsidedly’ – I did not ever imply the absence of female tyrants.
Your lists of notorious female names mean nothing, the point remains of their having been vastly outnumbered in any world time period by notorious males. All Current and Historical Statistics still stand.
My point is that it is PRIMARILY the males in the world, in politics, in mafias, in the cabals, in the drug cartels, in ALL POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY……who are attracted to violent pursuits, abuses of power and perpetuate the most violence in the world and always have.
I could have gone on and on and on finding overwhelmingly lopsided numbers of males dominating the percentage of anything violent in this world… just starters that imply a lot…..
In US Military 2021
Men: 82.7
Women: 17.3
In US prison:
Men: 93.2%
Women: 6.8%
Murderers in US 2022:
Men: 87.75%
Women: 13.25%
Arrested for Violent crime 2022:
Men: 80.4%
Women: 19.6%
Pedophile Offenders – Nearly 70% have 1-9 victims, at LEAST 20% 10-40 victims
Men: 96%
Women: 4%
World Leaders
Men: 93%
Women: 7%
World Lawmakers
Men: 76%
Women: 24%
Of those addicted to video games (adolescent to adult)
Males: 75-90% Mostly VIOLENT games
Females: 10-25% Mostly SOCIAL games
There are an alarming amount of violent crimes occuring (and have occurred) that are not reported, documented or investigated, as well as covered in official immunity offers. Males and Females of all classes are skating free today. Females are high up in the who is who in security where violent crimes are devised and executed.
This list is a keeper for you, for sure.
Violent men and women who have positions in powers of authority are threatened by violent men and women ready to take over.
I can clearly observe this. You have not factored in the roles violent women use to partner with or topple those who have positions in powers of authority.
Ignoring violence by women and falsely accusing men repeatedly is an attention seeking tart aim. Stay away from those who need leaders to locate violent offenders of humanity. You will never provide proper healing to those who have been afflicted with torture at the hands of women. As you act to cover up maliciously cruel violence by women, you assert you are seriously a part of the problem. You are in the maasive rank of those who are unwilling to face monsters of humanity.
Not covering up anything. ALL crime and coverup statistics are rampant with the unreported. To argue against my point by saying the statistics are only skewed to cover up additional female violence has zero basis in any reality you can verify.
My responses have been directed to this quote and two additional comments made by you. You put the whole record of ‘unspeakable horror’ on the shoulders of men. For what purpose?
I am stating women are capable of violence in the ‘unspeakable horror’ category. Again, the Baby Boomer Generation barely shed light on the roles women will obtain to promote, protect and execute violence.
My assertion is you are covering up violence by women (and children) by making statements such as “It’s not humanity that is capable of ‘unspeakable horror’…” This is a lie. My second assertion covers the silliness of using so-called official stats. If you are comfortable with your so-called silly official stats, then who benefits besides you? I am not willing to rely on your so-called silly stats. Those stats barely, barely cover the sadistic violence occurring in my lifetime. You are comfortable asserting stats is all folks. I will follow investigative journalists, writers, my own curious research patterns, and the seriously courageous.
Waves, violent men and violent women have too much freedom. There are plenty of violent women ready to take over every position of authority.
I have a willingness to Encourage the Rescue of the Innocents. Solid leaders target violent offenders, not men. The on-going cartograph of humanity’s violent offenders covers violence moreso than finger-pointing at men.
It is petty and it is a lie to say “It’s Men”. For the Innocents, such a suggestion excludes their Voice. For humanity, such a suggestion is a lie.
This statement sells itself as Silly Stats for a Dramatic Mindgame.
Humanity v Men for real in-depth Collective Guilt. No. No. No.
It says a lot that you chose to exclude the violence of abortion when you first pointed out you stood out from humanity the most.
Have a warm and cozy Thanksgiving.
What’s your point?
What’s your point?
All of those except Ardern and Pelosi are YENTAS. Even Arde4n and Pelosi could be as well, but I’m not certain.
You’re a “jew”™®© infiltrator doing what your Tribe does best (eg. Book of Esther)…….Sow Divisions between your enemies (united) so that you can Conquer them (divided; at each other’s throats).
Women are astonishing hypocrites. They bully and emasculate men into being ashamed of being men. Then, when women are too afraid
(incapable) of protecting themselves, they SHAME MEN AGAIN, by labeling men as cowards when men have been bullied into being emasculated in the first place!
Our societal problems began when women were listened to and taken seriously.
Shut up and get back in the kitchen.
“….All world’s unspeakable horrors are created by heartless, animalistic MALE creatures . . .”
. . . she crooned softly and lovingly, trying to provoke a war.
That you are not aware of how you have falsely accused a portion of humanity is on you.
Those who commit actions of ‘unspeakable horror’ are people. A major portion of humanity commit sinister actions against humanity and creation. The 2003 investigative work of Victor Malarek The Natashas: The New Global Sex Trade directs attention to those who were willing to protect sex trafficking organizations from abolishment. Women in the UN slept well at night protecting sex trafficking organizations. The complicity of these women and the UN as a whole permitted genocide of Eastern European white females. Investigative journalist Lydia Cacho Riberio explores the roots of sex trafficking organizations. Daniel Walker, too. Investigative journalists are not known to throw their hands up in the air and falsely accuse, moan, spit and rail against men. What occurs within eex trafficking is 1000x worse than reported. There are numerous, violent forms. There are wealthy 80-year-old female perverts out there (that Never are exposed in mass media). A portion of women CEOs protect sex trafficking organizations. There are female mob bosses in certain cultures. There are numerous U.S. women who will not protect their own children from exposure to digital trafficking.
The violence occuring against humanity and creation is exponentially high. The baby boomer generation has barely brought to light the roles women obtain to promote and protect violence in Every industry.
I am not interested in falsely accusing men.
Ahhh ha haa ha ha! And dear person, women are the cause of it all. See, honey, what I did there? I know, I know, you don’t and that’s not surprising, deliberate blindness in thought is yawningly common. Let me explain in words you’ll likely be familiar with, look them up if you’re not. Men are only necessary to inseminate women. The woman, or female, then gestates her fertilized egg. She then gives issue to the offspring such as it may be. If that offspring is to live or die is then entirely the choice of the dam, the sire has no voice in the matter beyond forcing the dam to provide involuntary service to her issue if he so chooses and is able.
Thus, all living mammals are the choice of the dam, a very few may exist as coerced choice, but that number is insignificant.
This is the classic stereotype brought to reality. The woman is the cause yet refuses to take responsibility for the result. She casts that responsibility on the man, or anything, God, for a biblical example, who did nothing more than toss her a requested or demanded load of sperm.
How is the restoration of Notre Dame Cathedral going?
It’s nice they rebuilt it so the they can fill it with Turks and niggers.
Well they burned it down, so fitting.
And 20 years later, the Catholic church is pissing away it’s last remnants of moral values it once stood for.
“The Dresden atrocity, tremendously expensive and meticulously planned, was so meaningless . . .”
. . . that reparations were actually offered to the victims after the war. Vonnegut applied for and received them, which provided the nest egg he needed to become a novelist writing his fictionalized account.
So he made his money from the before and after the writing.
I don’t know the truth of it, but at one point Vonnegut wrote that he, an American Soldier, was the only person to have actually received the reparation payment.
Yep. Dresden was a horror. So was Lahaina, if you were there. Dresden was a mistake, not an innocent one, the purpose was twofold, breaking the remaining civil spirit in Germany and punishing the civilian society for supporting the Nazi regime. The mistake was due to new technology, there had never before been so much incendiary ordnance applied to a modern built up urban environment. The firestorms were intentional but enormously larger than expected. The next similar big experiments went off in Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
The true war criminals of WW2 never suffered any consequences…unless you count becoming filthy rich, becoming president, etc.
What is the problem? The Germans were white and mostly Christian.
yep the true holocaust (a burnt offering)
You mean that people ACTUALLY die in war?!?!?! I’m shocked I tell you, shocked!!!!!!!!
Ethnically-Cleansed (aka Exterminated, Genocided)
I love how Libtards start wars and then are shocked when people die in them.
I wish the same Navel-analizing self-hating Libtards who wring their hands over Dresden, would do the same for the 13 Million Jews, Gypsies, Clergy, POW’s, Political Prisoner’s, Ethnic Minorities the German People tortured and murdered in the German Death Camps.
What’s your proof? I too can state that cows are purple and oranges resemble pineapples, but I couldn’t prove it.
That is the point of war, to level the old so the tribe can build the new, sell it to you and finance to boot. That’s how it works Gomer. Real estate has always been their best money maker and they like to get if free or almost free.