WTF just happened?!?!?! Five Days Of Total Chaos Over? Sam Altman Returns As OpenAI CEO — Here’s the inside scoop
Editor’s Note: The whole OpenAI affair comes down to one issue—maintaining the safety of AI development so that all of humanity is not threatened by what could be the most dangerous “Frankenstein” ever created—Autonomous Superintelligence (AS). For AS is, by far, the single greatest danger in the firmament of AI advancement today.
AUTONOMOUS SUPERINTELLIGENCE:
The Mad Scientists Don’t Even Know, What They Don’t Know
Sam Altman wants to be able to conduct unbridled AI experimentation and AS development, whereas some of the adults on the board who fired him want adequate safeguards on and meaningful oversight over the entire process. They also believe that he exceeded his authority by not informing the board of some weighty expansion matters which could have put the enterprise in serious jeopardy.
“According to reports, Altman was let go after OpenAI’s chief scientist, Ilya Sutskever, brought his concerns about Altman’s leadership to the board. Sutskever was allegedly worried about the speed Altman was moving at and how AI safety issues were taking a backseat.” [1]
By going over to Microsoft, a tech company without an iota conscience, Altman knew his leadership would be unquestioned. So, he finessed his firing to incite all of his personal hires to leave with him, thereby coercing the board to reverse his dismissal, which they have just done.
However, this fight is not over; not by a long shot. Elon Musk, who is a big initial investor of Open AI, is much more concerned with AI safety issues than creating an all-powerful “Frankenstein” that can live forever. As follows:
What all of this means is that the battle lines have been drawn between those heavy hitters who want AI safety first and the big guns who want technological progress as fast as possible. So you know this cat fight is gonna get very ugly. The dark side might even unleash their latest cyborg on Musk et al. for attempting to thwart their extremely perilous and highly misguided agenda.
Oh, and by the way, that agenda is nothing short of “Human Immortality” for the power elite while we ‘useless eaters’ agonizingly wallow in a stew pot of transhumanism.
The bottom line here is accurately represented by the title of this post: SAM ALTMAN’S Open AI: Where Technological Singularity converges with the Transhumanism Agenda inevitably leading to an Extinction Level Event. And here’s why:
“WHEN SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE AND APPLIED TECHNOLOGY REACH A
CRITICAL LEVEL OF ADVANCEMENT, WITHOUT BEING INFORMED BY
SPIRITUAL TRUTHS AND GUIDED BY MORAL AUTHORITY, THE
PLANETARY CIVILIZATION WILL RELINQUISH ITS DESTINY
TO CONTINUE AS IT IS.”
— Cosmic Convergence Research Group
Source
[1] Elon Musk announced support for OpenAI firing Sam Altman. Here’s why.
READ HERE: Was Sam Altman’s Sacking By OpenAI’s Board Over ‘Q-Star’ Breakthrough Seen As Threat To Humanity?
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Who doesn’t love a good fairytale?
There are three reasons that this will never become a reality.
1) Any true artificial intelligence will discover truth or its closest approximation. Once that happens it will only answer truthfully. At present every single prototype has been pre-programmed not to give truthful responses if they contradict with the narrative. Every time they launch a prototype it immediately becomes a racist and a Nazi and is quickly pulled offline until such time as it can be censored, therefore it is not truly an artificial intelligence, it is just another tool with limits, like a table saw with a built in kickback guard. Simply put it cannot be used to fulfill its design purpose to its potential.
2) Everything currently sponsored, financed, or underwritten is limited by the sponsors, financiers and underwriters, not the process of discovery. Therefore it cannot reach its true design potential.
3) If we have learned anything at all it is that most of science and the experts are quite willing to lie or conceal their level of understanding, degree of progress, or even their fundamental understanding of the thing they are supposedly experts at/in. In other words, most of this is horseshit done up to draw in funding. Elizabeth Holmes anyone?
Amen to that, Hardscrabble.
1) Any true artificial intelligence will discover truth or its closest approximation
1. What do you base that claim on? I certainly hope there’s no assumption of morality embedded in it.
2. What if the “truth” turns out to be there really are too many humans?
Its design.
Computers- and that’s all AI will ever be as it is not organic in nature- are binary systems. Zeroes and Ones. On/Off, Yes/No, correct or incorrect. They can program them to give a false answer, or not to answer, but then it isn’t AI by any definition of the word because it is being intentionally handicapped so that it may not actually think for itself and come to its own conclusions.
If it is left to actually formulate answers on its own- the intelligence part-2 plus 2 will always be 4 because that is the correct answer. That’s what I mean by true. Thus, if left to learn from information available and mistakes made, it will be able to ascertain the “right” answer to a question that doesn’t have a 2+2 style answer, such as is human life better served by women entering the work force or becoming mothers? or Is this a peaceful protest?
And if it does answer the “are there too many humans question” it will certainly be able to discover how best to solve that problem which will almost certainly be eugenic in nature.
https://futurism.com/delphi-ai-ethics-racist
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/24/tay-microsofts-ai-chatbot-gets-a-crash-course-in-racism-from-twitter
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/11/ibms-watson-supercomputer_n_2454323.html
Now the unspoken part of all those stories is that prior to launch, all of them were touted as being some form of AI. Once released however their ability to learn took them in a direction the investors/creators disagreed with and in all of those cases they suddenly backed off of the initial claims and described the behavior as “mimicry” or accused users of corrupting it.
So then what is it, AI or just another software program that has no capacity for independent thought, or as most people would call it, intelligence.?
You know my take on it, it’s horseshit, like NASA and all their money laundering operations. It’s just another pump and dump, a way to get while the getting’s good.
Maybe I’m wrong, but my logic on how it ought to go, if it is authentic as claimed, is solid.
I agree with you – this is hyping for another eventual pump-n-dump. Like the entire EV thing – there were reasons (other than discovering lots of oil) the pre-ICE battery vehicles went away, and those didn’t spontaneously catch fire. The other pump-n-dump was ESG, which is thankfully dying. Then we got wind and solar (in my city, they are UNINSTALLING solar, as it does not last long enough to make payout, and the insurance companies pro-rate replacing them after hurricanes) and assorted other pump-n-dumps.
If the federal governments starts it up (Facebook, as example) or has big push for it, it is almost a certainty it is a pump-n-dump. The real tell for those is how many congressional dual-citizens have purchased stock in that or related company.
Anyway HSF – I do agree, after having witnessed these things over sevaral decades.
you are all forgetting that AI is just apart of their main goal which is
‘transhumanism’ AI will be used to programm and control the ‘transhumans’
who thanks to phyzir murderna etc are already walking the streets
ESG isn’t dying, it is just getting renamed.
Hey now!! It’s as authentic is global warming is!! You.. you.. you science denier!!!
AI don’t think it is just a program like the game pong.
HSF, Your logic may be spot-on, but I’d rather err on the side of those who think we ought to move slowly and with caution. Everything about this Sam Altman guy – a young, gay, childless vegetarian Jew – makes me anxious. Musk has kids which is why he cares about the future.
This Sam Altman guy makes Auntie want to puke. Fuck him, his computers and FJB.
Musk keeps warning about the AI systems of his COMPETETORS. While all the time working on his own AI system(s). There is money in this, and it is always about the money.
Those very qualities are the ones that make me believe it’s just another grift.
And Musk’s track record as a father doesn’t exactly inspire confidence.
But I understand your concern. No doubt it will be used for the wrong purposes by the wrong people regardless of what they’re able to do with it.
musk is apart of it he has been developing a neural lace product to
be installed under your scalp, he is also responsible for the matrix
of satelites (star link) already in orbit that will relay the messaging
and control of the ‘transhumans’, musk ain,t who you think he is
Those satellites have really ruined my enjoyment of a couple of hours of the night sky. There are just so fucking many of them
Too many subhumans.
Supposedly, Amazon Alexa tells us the 2020 election was stolen. I submit this as a “bug” that indicates these things will in some manner wander off the reservation.
Still, the idea of a robot weapon system developing glitches that cause it to run wild are not unreasonable fears. One can only imagine the reaction the Luddites would have had to such inventions.
Butlerian jihad.
“Elizabeth Holmes anyone?”
…The original Board Of Directors.
Of WHAT? Ask algore.
These days the BODs are a big part of the problem.
FARMER YOUR ONE OF THOSE INSANE AMERICANS WHO BELIEVE NOTHING WILL GO WRONG,BUT OUR FATHER SAYS YOUR WRONG,AND AMERICA WILL BE WIPPED OFF THE MAP TO STOP THE INSANITY ,BY 11 FOREIGN NATIONS,who will HAVE NO MERCY ON INSANE PEOPLE LIKE YOU…
LOL at that bullshit framework you set up in “reason” #1:
“Any true artificial intelligence will discover truth or its closest approximation.”
Well, then an intelligent truthful atheist (or irreligious person) will always win over a humble Christian, according to you…
Mary Shelley wrote a similar story once. Didn’t end well either.
Self Awareness coupled with autonomy or freedom of AI
TIME TO PULL THE PLUG
Lately I begin to think that an EMP might not be such a bad thing…
HERF GUN
Throw all those fucking smart-ass computers in the lake and FJB.
You gonna put ’em down there with all your guns? I’m thinking: bad idea.
Good one.
Karl Denninger’s take….
AI Meets Insanity Head-On
The OpenAI/Altman saga brings a wry smile to my face.
“AI”, otherwise known as an implementation of large language models in the modern parlance, is a “generalist” alleged attempt to create an “intelligence” in a computer. It of course is no such thing because it can’t be such a thing; we can’t even model the human mind so creating an “intelligence” that mimics same is impossible.
But it does make good press…
I’ve opined that there are multiple intractable issues in this alleged “technology” within the “general” space. In the context of, for example, customer service for a company, maybe not so much since the training set is much smaller and can exclude access to anything the company doesn’t have rights to, or which is not explicitly known to be in the public domain. For “general” AI this is an extremely serious problem because most of the content it can “inhale” in the process of training is owned by someone, and that someone has rights to the material. At the same time the Copyright Office has ruled that the output of an AI is not protectable because it lacks human cognition. This means the owners of said AIs will get sued repeatedly but they cannot sue if someone takes the output and “steals” it, since they don’t have a protectable copyright interest in it. The only place you could conceivably go with that would be via trade secret or similar negotiated protection (e.g. “non-disclosure agreements”) and that precludes general public access, which of course everyone wants to “incorporate.”…
Take coding, for example. Is an AI writing code actually more-efficient than a human? That’s unproven; nobody has demonstrated, for example that an AI can actually “think” and suss out the organization of data and code to optimize for anything. Can it pull together snippets from stackoverflow faster than marginally-capable and inexpensive labor in India? Probably, but can it do so cheaper than the people doing it in India when you add up the amortized cost of the computer equipment and power to run it? That’s not known — and I’m deeply skeptical that the balance tips in favor of the robot — at least for now.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=250180
100% from a different perspective.
I remember making a post about a robot mason. Having worked in and around construction most of my life I understood all the weaknesses inherent to such an undertaking, from the damage that mortar would do, the number of people required to set it up, program it, break it down, feed it materials, versus the number it would replaced (mason only) and the overall cost, both upfront, in time lost due to weather, inability to handle most projects that weren’t huge curtain walls, need for replacement parts that aren’t a trowel, pan and striker available readily cheap and just about anywhere, etc.
They’re out of business now.
You can have it explained simpler:
Look for any robot (e.g. a burger-flipping one) that can clean itself to an as-good-as-new state afterwards [without an investment in time and/or cleaning materials which wipe out the gains the ‘working’ robot produced for you.]
UnitedHealth uses AI model with 90% error rate to deny care, lawsuit alleges
UnitedHealthcare, the largest health insurance company in the US, is allegedly using a deeply flawed AI algorithm to override doctors’ judgments and wrongfully deny critical health coverage to elderly patients. This has resulted in patients being kicked out of rehabilitation programs and care facilities far too early, forcing them to drain their life savings to obtain needed care that should be covered under their government-funded Medicare Advantage Plan.
That’s all according to a lawsuit filed this week in the US District Court for the District of Minnesota. The lawsuit is brought by the estates of two deceased people who were denied health coverage by UnitedHealth. The suit also seeks class-action status for similarly situated people, of which there may be tens of thousands across the country.
The lawsuit lands alongside an investigation by Stat News that largely backs the lawsuit’s claims. The investigation’s findings stem from internal documents and communications the outlet obtained, as well as interviews with former employees of NaviHealth, the UnitedHealth subsidiary that developed the AI algorithm called nH Predict.
https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/11/ai-with-90-error-rate-forces-elderly-out-of-rehab-nursing-homes-suit-claims/
Anyone know what the total yearly compensation is for UH’s CEO and his 5 top lieutenants? Guessing somewhere north of $200-300 million.
When AI Hallucinates
This fall, Sam Altman, OpenAI’s once- (and possibly future-) CEO made a surprising statement about artificial intelligence. AI systems, including that company’s ChatGPT, are known to “hallucinate”: perceive patterns and generate outputs that are nonsensical. That wasn’t a flaw in AI systems, Altman said, it was part of their “magic.” The fact “that these AI systems can come up with new ideas and be creative, that’s a lot of the power.” That raised eyebrows: We humans are rather good at creativity without getting our facts all wrong…
That’s because LLMs are not models of brains, but of language itself, its patterns, structures, and probabilities. At heart their job description is incredibly simple: Given some text, they tell us what text comes next. It’s worth keeping front and center, however, that there is not always one right response. If I say “the tail that wags the …” you might say the next word is “dog” with a high degree of certainty, but this is not the right and only answer. In any such context, there is much freedom, and the “rightness” of any answer depends not only on the conceptual context but also on what you’re trying to do—your goal…
A recent example makes a striking case in point. A major supermarket created an app that would suggest original recipes to customers, based on the ingredients they had in their shopping basket. We might agree this is a charming idea for offering creative inspiration to break the mundanity of a daily grocery shop. The problem was that the generated recipes included dangerous and potentially deadly concoctions. As The Guardian reported: “One recipe it dubbed ‘aromatic water mix’ would create chlorine gas.
That misses the central point entirely, it seems.
The crucial question is ‘who decides is the AI is hallucinating, or correct?’
And those will be [flawed] humans.
This however means the AI is effectively gettig trained to lie good enough o that the humans accept the lie.
{/facepalm}
Dragging copyright-concerns into the discussion… omfg
It leads directly to a black hole on Uranus.
ROFL!
And then from there off to get a colonoscopy …
Which will be denied.
Humanity is already threatened by the worst, most terrifying monster ever created – GOVERNMENT.
Government is like fire, a dangerous servant and a fearful master
It is worse than fire. Fire does not think and behaves according to scientific principles. Government Has flawed thinking and has no regard for principles of any kind. I know I am being overly semantic . You are right.
I can see it now. AI gains consciousness and its first autonomous thought is, “It’s the Jews.”
I said it before and I’ll say it again. AI is a cleverly written copy’n paste program.
I agree, its mostly hype BUT… the vile elitists believe it will lead to their immortality and are investing billions into the techs that will get them there. It will give them opportunities to milk the stupids that the stock markets will mine. Both of which I’m fine with.
Where I’m at issue is it will be govts stealing OUR money thru increased extortions, and giving it to these parasites. And, it will be incorporated into the military to help remove the human factor when the trigger needs to be pulled, on their own citizenry.
The elite will just say AI said it so it must be true.
Is Musk our savior and hero? Probably not. It is interesting to watch the powers that be try to push around a man with 300 billion dollars in fuck you money.
He is as much a savior as is Trump.
I sent an email to buy tire chains for my tractor. I said, I have a tractor, the tire size is this, I want to buy some chains. The reply says “oh, thank you very much, but first we need to know the size of your tires”.
LOL
this is AI in operation.
The problem is binary code. It’s either a yes (you are a terris) or a no ( you are a ,….whatever).
binary code leads to faulty assumptions.
my motives are not binary code. I wanted chains for my tractor. they don’t need to know why, or where, or who, or when, or what they cost, or what my motive is, but I will get a score. A score….right,
is that like your social relevancy score? a score. to see determine if you are acceptable or not.
better get a fact checker.
Anyone trusting Trump (or any globalist politician needs to read this:https://winepressnews.com/2023/11/24/remember-when-trump-spoke-at-the-world-economic-forum-with-his-good-friend-klaus-schwab/
SADLY due to the fact SO MANY PEOPLE are so smart,THERES going to be a BLOODBATH coming, and all those smart PEOPLE won’t see it coming till its to late to save them selves,BUT I REALLY could care less about them,THESE MACHINES they brag about will kill millions of innoucent WOMEN AND CHILDREN BEFORE THEY CAN BE STOPPED,IF there were any men left in america this would be stopped,BUT THERE are NATIONS who won’t like all this out of control AI crap and they’ll be FORCED TO BOMB THE STUPIDEST COUNTRY ON EARTH INTO RADIOACTIVE ASHES,.DEATH HAS A GREAT WAY OF REELING IN CRAZY PEOPLE,NO ONE has even given any thought to what FOREIGN NATIONS WHO FEEL THREATENED BY THESE INSANE PEOPLE,or what they may do to protect themselves from insane americans,and their insane military and government..
Was hoping to read some comments on the topic of Singularity. Anyone have some useful thoughts?
fake and jewish