Authored by Mike Shedlock via MishTalk.com,
In an effort to get Republicans to commit hundreds of billions of dollars for Ukraine and Israel, Biden trots out the Domino Theory. Anyone remember that?
“Don’t Let Putin Win”
Reuters reports Biden Pleads for More Money
President Joe Biden pleaded with Republicans on Wednesday for a fresh infusion of military aid for Ukraine, warning that a victory for Russia over Ukraine would leave Moscow in position to attack NATO allies and could draw U.S. troops into a war.
Biden spoke as the United States planned to announce $175 million in additional Ukraine aid from its dwindling supply of money for Kyiv. He signaled a willingness to make significant changes to U.S. migration policy along the border with Mexico to try to draw Republican support.
“If Putin takes Ukraine, he won’t stop there,” Biden said. Putin will attack a NATO ally, he predicted, and then “we’ll have something that we don’t seek and that we don’t have today: American troops fighting Russian troops,” Biden said.
“We can’t let Putin win,” he said.
Overestimating Putin
Eurointelligence notes we have gone From Complacency to Panic About Putin
Western analysts went straight from complacency to panic in their assessment of Vladimir Putin. When Ukraine pushed back, western commentators went as far as to fantasise about regime change in Russia; now the same commentators are warning that Putin is about to occupy Kiev, and then go on to attack Nato.
This is utter nonsense. We have warned against under-estimating him. Now we warn against over-estimating him. It takes more than a ban on sales of iPhones and Mercedes cars to deprive him of the technology needed to wage war. At the same time, Putin does not have the means, nor is he unlikely to acquire them, to wage war against Nato – not even a Nato with Donald Trump as US leader.
Nato has rightly started to take the defence of its eastern borders more seriously. Finland has just concluded a military deal with the US. So did Sweden. Germany is planning to dispatch an entire brigade to Lithuania. The west is not helpless.
Putin has troops he can burn, but the rate at which he is burning them now is unsustainable for him, both militarily and politically. The unsustainable can be sustained for a period, sometimes a long period, but it ends eventually. We heard of a three-year battle plan into 2026. In the end, he will go along with a truce that would secure him some territory in eastern Ukraine and expose the west’s grandstanding rhetoric. Such an outcome would be perceived in Russia as a political victory for him.
After the war, we would expect his priority to shift towards infrastructure. Russia has a lot to offer given its geographical location at the centre of the Eurasian continent. The most important strategic project for Russia would be the development of the Northern sea route, from the Baring Sea in the east to the North Sea in the west. The melting of the Arctic ice is making this route viable for large transport. But it would require huge investment into port infrastructure along the way. Post-war Eurasia will be a different place.
The Domino Theory Revisited
Younger readers may not even be aware of the Domino Theory. The theory stated we need to fight them “over there” or we would be fighting them here.
The result was US involvement in Vietnam, initially in a limited fashion, but ultimately in a major war, with overall involvement lasting nearly 20 years.
LAST SECOND DEALS
About 8.7 million served during the Vietnam era between 1964-1973, about 3.1 million in Vietnam. 2.2 million people were drafted. 58,279 US military died for nothing and total deaths in North and South Vietnam were about 1.4 million.
The US lost the war, dominos did not fall, and Vietnam is now a trading partner.
The Veterans Breakfast Club has an excellent refresher course on The Domino Theory in Retrospect
The Domino Theory stated simply that Communist victory in one country or region would spark neighboring regions to rise up against pro-American governments, which would lead to more victories and further insurgencies. By keeping the first domino upright—in this case Vietnam—the US could prevent Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, and even India from succumbing to Communist takeovers.
It’s striking that the biggest proponent of the Domino Theory during the war, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, later confessed, “I think we were wrong. I do not believe that Vietnam was that important to the communists. I don’t believe that its loss would have lead – it didn’t lead – to Communist control of Asia.”
In retrospect, said McNamara, “we should have begun our withdrawal from South Vietnam [in 1965]. There was a high probability we could have done so on terms no less advantageous than those accepted nearly six years later–without any greater danger to U.S. national security and at much less human, political, and social cost to America and Vietnam.”
In Retrospect
In retrospect, we had no business in Vietnam first place.
In retrospect, I would have spit on McNamara then and would spit in his face now if he was still alive.
In retrospect, US meddling in Ukraine led by John McCain fomented the mess we see today. I strongly advised against US meddling at the time.
In retrospect, US support for Israel, no matter what Israel did, contributed to the setup we have today.
In retrospect, the war in Iraq and the killing of Hussein led to the formation of ISIS. I vehemently opposed US actions at the time.
In retrospect, the US killing of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi led to ISIS taking over the country.
In retrospect, the US wasted trillions of dollars in Afghanistan, also leaving in defeat. Once again, I said so ahead of time.
Please don’t make a fool of yourself comparing Putin to Hitler, or Mideast events to WWII. Israel has proven it can defend itself. And US support for Israel for decades, no matter what, has at a minimum, increased tensions. This post does not support Hamas which Israel has a right to destroy.
No Change
I was against US meddling in 1966 and have been against meddling ever since. And I have been on the right side of history.
The US cannot afford to be the world’s policeman and the results of trying have backfired every time (assuming perpetual war is not the desired goal).
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Didn’t the Rosenfeld administration present fake maps of a planned German invasion of the uSA to the public as real?
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At a press conference the day after the address, a reporter asked the President for a copy of the “secret map” document. Roosevelt declined, but insisted that it had come from “a source which is undoubtedly reliable.”
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/61714/astounding-counterfeit-nazi-invasion-map-youve-never-heard
Roosevelt’s ‘Secret Map’ Speech
By Mark Weber
President Franklin Roosevelt was a master of deceit. On at least one occasion, he candidly admitted his readiness to lie to further his goals. During a conversation in May 1942 with Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau, Jr., who was also a trusted adviser, the President remarked: “You know I am a juggler, and I never let my right hand know what my left hand does ... I may have one policy for Europe and one diametrically opposite for North and South America. I may be entirely inconsistent, and furthermore, I am perfectly willing to mislead and tell untruths if it will help win the war.”
Roosevelt was not the first or the last American president to lie to the people. But rarely has a major American political figure given a speech of such brazen falsehood as he did in his “Navy Day” address of October 27, 1941, made at a large gathering at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington, DC, and broadcast live over nationwide radio.
This was part of the President’s ongoing effort to persuade the American public that Hitler’s Germany was a grave and imminent threat to the United States, which therefore required large-scale U.S. military support to Britain and Soviet Russia. The campaign was not working as well as intended. Most Americans still opposed direct involvement in the European conflict.
Continues:
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v06/v06p125_Weber.html
Excellent share!
Thankyou!
Fear, it’s always fear…well, TPTB jumped the shark this time, when patriots realize they are marked for elimination and have nothing to lose but their freedom and ultimately their lives I hope to see the the collective anger begin to rise that results in action…non believers should just renew their Mother Jones subscription and lurk quietly.
I don’t think people are really aware of what’s going on outside.
If it doesn’t have to do with Mountain Dew, chips , mindless sports and TV shows, they aren’t aware of it.
I live outside the US and have for 11 years. The majority of US sheep have no idea what is happening. All they know is what is force fed to them from the Main Slime Media. I am aghast at how little the populace knows.
What kind of chips ?
Tracking, extra spicy!
The domino theory for Russia is quite absurd, but it’s also implied by the ‘Russia is winning by destroying all of NATO’s equipment’ crowd.
“This post does not support Hamas which Israel has a right to destroy.”
just wait till we get the ‘in retrospect’ on that shitshow
unpossible as the msm has stated from the beginning that Russia is hopelessly losing and will soon cease to exist.
But somehow the gas station posing as a country armed with only shovels while using washing machines for their missile parts is now going to over run NATO?
These guys cant remember their lies it seems
Same country we supposedly had to bum a ride up to the space station from ? Same country that supposedly achieved orbit before us ?Same country that has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world ? Same country that tipped our intelligence and security services off to the Tsarnev bro’s ? Same country that sold us the majority of our fertilizer and uranium ? Nah , couldn’t be that country .
The US has less than 200,000 teeth in the military. You know, the guys up front fighting vs the tail loading trucks and stirring barrels of burning shit. The military think tank expected 25,000 dead US solders a month in a ground fight in Ukraine! (And 20,000 a month fighting China.) You do the math.
If Empower Poopy Pants the First wants to be able to fight Russia he better start the draft now. But he won’t because, well – it wouldn’t work, most of the country is 4F already. Plus where are we going to get the equipment, guns, ammo, artillery, drones, drone defences, integrated systems of air defense and reconnaissance strike systems, 5th generation fighters and tanks that work. We have no industry, our money is fake and getting more so by the minute and China is where we buy all our stuff.
The true display of our awe inspiring military prowess is now taking place in the Red Sea. Watch how fast individual destroyers are forced to retreat to reload at some distant port. And even more important, watch for the point the USA has to decide to use their last AD missle in the Red Sea vs retreating in shame and trying to save some missiles to “scare” China.
Sing along with me and Willie,
Momma’s, don’t let you babies grow up to be solders.
They run far from home and get blow to bits . . .
All hail emperor Poopy pants of New Rome.
I for one, Hail our new Supreme Leader Emperor Poopy Pants of Neocon Rome. I can only hope he squeezes out a rein of ruin of Depends Diapers filled to the brim with red hot diarrhea onto our enemies both foreign and domestic.
Domino’s theory is getting the two large pepperoni pizzas and 2liter soda special for $19.99. A great deal for some tasty pie and it keeps most of the kids very happy.
USSA “Domino theory” geo-political military doctrine is to waste as much money as possible and not only get nothing in return but to induce hatred all over the globe for ‘Murka; ruin functioning societies and slaughter plenty of civilians while “Bringing Them Democracy”, central banking (controlled by U No Hu) and Hyper-finance Crony-Capitalism.
How to destroy the Cabal that has a chokehold on the U.S.A. is the bottom line question, and to be able to do it before the Techno-Hell being constructed is completed. Urgent and grave is the situation, friends.
The government lies, because the citizens are idiots, who believe their lies.
“This post does not support Hamas which Israel has a right to destroy.”
Of course, Mish had to throw that in there.
Israel is pure fucking evil, and must be destroyed. Too bad TBP does not have the courage to stand up to the Jews…..
but you hate racists and tell them to kys. I take it you think jews aren’t a race.
Not all Jews are Zionists, but every Zionist is evil and deserves to be held accountable, and no Jews are not a separate race, they originated in the area today called Romania, and are closely related to Gypsies…. Do you think Romanian’s are a different race than other Europeans?
what in the world genetics are you reading that you came up with that theory?
nvm, if I want to talk to someone who thinks jews and gypsies and all Europeans are the same race, I’ll just talk to some vaping muzzled zoomer.
OK dipshit, name the different races…….. Crickets……. Stupid shit.
wait wait wait
are you saying there are NO races?
Should I be Vutin for Putin?
Save America From the Dumpster
Vote for Donald Trumpster!
because LOCKING-FUCKING-DOWN the USSA and being the proud father of “Big Beautiful Vaxxines” isn’t enough for most masochists and retards.
You concluded that rhyming Trump with dumpster indicates support of Trump.
Nice.
You were on the right side of history. Like forced vaccination. Go fuck yourself.
It’s not a theory. Putin has openly stated his goal of recreating the USSR of old, the tyrannical regime he was part of as a KGB agent decades ago. With HIM as the “premier”. Doing this will require using FORCE to make all the old “satellite” countries subservient. So yes….Ukraine IS just the first domino. If successful in Ukraine he will move on to other countries in his goal of conquest. It’s a story as old as history. Anyone believing otherwise. Is an abject moron.
Abject moron it is, then.
Why don’t you go fight and die for Ukraine’s borders, culture and way of life? Get over there and save us. I’ll take my chances that you are wrong but you shouldn’t be as cavalier. The stakes are much too high.
Ukraine is desperate for manpower.
Walk it like you talk it. Save us. Go die for Ukraine, NATO and Biden.
Funny, my first thought was the same as yours. I’m ok with it too.
Dan, you are an ass. Send YOUR sons, you neocon prick. Your days are over.
Putin 2024!
Putin doesn’t want to try to govern the average western schizoid nutcase . Hell ,we cant even govern ourselves . Putin wants to” Make Russia great Again” , sell lots of gas and rake in the rubles . You insult the mans intelligence . meanwhile the west is actually turning into the Soviet Union 2.0 right in front of your eyes and you cant see it . Russians have living memory of the long collective totalitarian nightmare they went thru and somehow managed to escape . They have no desire to revisit it . They now promote orthodox Christianity not collective athiesm , we now promote collective athiesm not Christianity . I aint lyin . Trying to “conquer “Europe or even re conquer the eastern parts of it would be a bloody effing nightmare and result even if they were initially successful in endless counter insugency . The Russian people are unified in their vision for a greater Russia . We are on our way down and they are on there way up , both as a result of our own choices . Deal with it , or continue to lie to yourself .
And all they would ‘conquer’ are a bunch of euro trash queers and tubs of waddling grease. Whom needs that?
The Neocon Warmonger whores in Deep Capture of the country will never stop pushing max fear porn.
yeah but because of all the shit theyve stirred up from here to the far reaches of the earth and all points in between over the last 60 years we do have some serious Karmic commupances coming our way sooner or later ,, Call that fear porn if you want .Maybe they’ll just nuke DC if we are lucky but I doubt it , theyd probably want to hit our military industrial complexes as well, from Norfolk to San Diego to Bremerton and Bangor Wa and so on .
Two hundred quite modest-sized nukes will take out every major hydropower and nuclear generating plant in the USA.
No mo electricity, no mo Hegemony.
Yet there is not even one functional nuke. Anywhere.
The northwest coast of SayWA will be very nicely incinerated, my place is out of the blast range of all the currently known warhead sizes but the radiation’s probably going to be fatal.
That fucking domino theory shit got 57,000 American GI’s killed in Viet Nam…for what? I have no idea how many Vietnamese were killed.
The same thing has gotten 500,000 Ukrainians killed and another 500,000 wounded…….and for what?
that shit has no tracti0n any longer, having been proven to be the rumination of warmongers.
If Putin really wants to recreate the old Soviet Union, why hasn’t the Russian military invaded and conquered Georgia, Armenia, Khazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Chechnya, Turkmenistan, Belarus Kyrgyzstan and Azerbaijan?
biden is a moron and a thief/criminal who was in bed with ukraine before the fabricated war…they squeeze money and throw it into a waste-basket(fruitless military hardware), spending which only enriches their criminal relationships and the military establishment companies…biden could have stopped this war early, through diplomacy…this war is horsesh!t!….
The Domino theory has been proven to be bullshit time and time again, but the Neo Con psychopaths’ keep dredging it up and using it to make fools out the hopelessly stupid people……