Guest Post by Martin Armstrong
I do not think that we will be in civil war, but we do have to understand if any state tries to secede, it could turn to violence based on precedent. Everything will depend on the military. If they turn on the people, then yes. If they support the people, it can be a bloodless event like Yeltsin standing on the tank in 1991.
The computer shows that the nation is deeply divided, and we will see civil unrest post-2024 because this is spinning out of control. The Democrats are not unified, and neither are the Republicans, for that matter. We need reform, and that is what Washington is fighting against. The party is over. They have to realize it is time to clean the garbage in DC. This whole nonsense with Trump is trying to block him to maintain the status quo. It only divides the country.
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Our future will be determined by the military, as in just about every situation throughout history.
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And the managers have been at work blackmailing as many generals as possible since 2016.
IMHO The cohort of military generals have supported the uniparty since then early days of Afghanistan and Iraq wars.
They went along to get along and promoted. Milley is an excellent example. I am aware from some ex military friends there were a few generals and admirals that pushed back, and retired afterwards.
A big part of the chocolate jesus’ plan was to get rid of patriotic members of the general staff. You know, a hidden part of the hope and change bullshit. My computer finds that about the only hope is with the National Guard units whose members are less likely to be woke and-when push comes to shove-less likely to follow orders of woke command. A force to be reckoned with? Maybe. Keep your powder dry.
“I do not think that we will be in civil war, but we do have to understand if any state tries to secede, it could turn to violence based on precedent.”
The past precedent had very different factors involved. This time I believe the north and south will divide relatively peacefully (as these things go), because this time they will both be glad to see the other off.
The civil wars won’t be US civil wars, they will be wars of founding the new countries. East of the Mississippi there will be cohesion of tradition and culture, New England is New England and Dixie is Dixie, but to the west will be a complete shit show.
appalachiastan is not going along with either new england (as it is in the past hundred years at least) or dixie (as it has been the past hundred years at least)…
The key may be which side has the best snipers.
What would all of the red states banding together and announcing they reserve the right to ignore any federal law with which the disagree be called?
ridiculous
Trumpville??
The “blue”states are already doing that!….I would call that a proper response. …..so which particular brand of glowie are you?
Translation: We’re all fooked.
No different than the fools errand of expecting to Police to quickly restore order when civil unrest is ordered into your neighborhood.
Truly so. They’ll get the same response from me either way or all at once. Decisions aren’t hard when you’ve prepared in advance.
That would be cool, if most of the .mil said F’ off and they had to roll out their BLaMtifa fodder boys,….that would be a fun couple of days
That’s what all the illegals are for
Take it a step further for a moment. Suppose a big state like FL or TX does leave. OK, then what?
Immediately the bankers set to work destroying them and making them subservient to their former master. Any assets locked in fUSA will be gone. Are their olds ready to forfeit their promises from the broken Social Security system?
What about new money, where will it come from? Foreign trade you say. Well, most of that is run through the export/import bank. If Texas wants to export oil to India the transaction is run through the EXIM bank which lowers the risk for both parties. Access to institutions like that will be cut off immediately.
In short, Secession only happens if it somehow benefits the bankers.
I would prefer this not be true.
Why destroy them financially or take their assets? Let them prosper for a bit and build up a military, maybe let some atrocity porn build up, too. Later you can have a big beautiful brother war, thin out the goyim, and make your money coming and going.
BRICS&T???
The military will be engaged in shooting it out among themselves and various national/state guard units. Divided loyalty knows no bounds.
There will probably be a civil war in the next couple of years, but it won’t be just red v. blue states. There will be race wars, and several other factors to complicate matters to make it more than just red v. blue. Urban gangs can fan out from the cities to try & conquer, but the numbers will thin out the further away they are from their cities, and the rural folk will be picking them off fairly easily.
The military? The generals/senior officers really need to pay attention to what their own troops are thinking – they may be not so obedient as they think.
A mix of Rwanda & Spain? Sounds exciting!
Bullshit! The military will be far more obedient than you think! They will have no problem shooting you in the fucking face. You need to wake the fuck up, things have changed.
Dear Martin,
I have complete confidence in Lloyd Austin.
Sincerely’
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Forget the /sarc?
A good assumption is this: People know on which side their bread is buttered. A corollary might be, concerning rice bowls, mine is most important. A related thought: People interested enough in hierarchical authoritarian organizations (military and police come to mind) to join and maintain employment within can be counted on to do the bidding of their masters as their economic and spiritual rice bowl would be jeopardized otherwise. Further, to round out the argument, the whole purpose of the bread is to be a vehicle for transporting the butter into one’s mouth. Capisci?
IOW, grow your own and you will be better able to stand up for what is right.
The fact is, the US is a dictatorship. It has been a dictatorship since 1865.
The Federal Government was constructed as a group of sovereign States, uniting under a contract called the Constitution, which limited the powers of the Federal Government.
There was no enforcement mechanism built into the Constitution to force the Federal Government to obey the Constitution, because the States were sovereign, and could simply succeed if the Federal Government failed to obey the restrictions placed on it by the Constitution.
When the Federal Government placed tariffs upon trade with Europe ( The Morrill Tariff ) it violated its duty under the Constitution to protect the welfare of all States evenly with regard to the implementation of trade policies.
The Morrill Tariff benefited the manufacturing States in the North while causing damage to the Agricultural States in the South. Because the Federal Government was not following either the letter or the intention of the Commerce Clause under the Constitution, it broke the Contract between the sovereign States and the Federal Government and justified the secession of the States it failed to protect.
By declaring war on these States, it nullified the Constitution in full, and the US devolved from a Republic to a dictatorship of the Federal Government.
I believe the Whiskey Rebellion was the first sign of the federal government’s potential to be dictatorial. It has only gotten worse as time goes by.
Not really, when it comes to taxation, you have to distinguish between voluntary and involuntary taxes.
A voluntarily tax is an excise tax, or a sales tax, in which you have a choice to pay or not. An involuntary tax is a tax such as property tax or income tax which is force upon everyone in some manor without your consent.
The Whiskey Tax was an excise tax which taxed Whiskey producers by the gallon per mile it was transported for sale. The Whiskey Tax did not effect any alcohol produced for private consumption, which was tax free.
It was the Governments position at the time that excise taxes being voluntary and commercial in nature were a moral tax in that the whiskey producers were profiting from the roads, ports and infrastructure provided by the Federal Government to transport their products.
I would go back to that system in a heartbeat.
Secede, not succeed. Good thoughts.
The military will collapse, and then divide based on different interests groups.
Our national military is Israel’s mercenary force.
What happens when mercenaries disband, have no profit, or lose a war?
They go back home.
You would think so, but it doesn’t seem to work that way. It seems to work in reverse, we pay them for the privilege, and go incurably in debt (to them) at that.
Problem is… when they go back home, they historically have used their skills against their own people to extort income….
The whole country is waiting, so as Not to be the one who blew up the world. But eager to join in once the party has started.
50 million guns added to the pile every four years. No new gun ranges, skeet and trap fields, or places to plink in the woods. So what ARE the intentions of those last 150 million purchasers?
They figured that somebody is going to need to be shot and they are planning to be the shooter, not the shot.
Go ahead, set the military lose, I can’t think of a better way to light it up, that is right up there with Blue helmets and gun confiscation for hot, hot, hot ideas.
Ps, it won’t end until the money train ends.
The political officer cadet corps is being built as we speak-
USAFA has a “Cadet Wing Diversity and Inclusion Program” now in its second year. Cadets who join “act as advisors to cadet squadron commanders and promote fair and equitable treatment for all cadets. They educate fellow cadets on the positive outcomes of D&I, advertise/manage cultural-awareness activities, facilitate unit climate conversations, and work with cadet leadership to inspire/encourage a culture of dignity and respect.”
Those who go through the program are given a purple rope to wear across their left shoulder “symbolizing their position as a diversity representative” so that they can “advise students on diversity,” according to an Academy press release.
https://www.usafa.af.mil/News/Art/igphoto/2002882132/
I wonder what his stage name is?
That’s a gay guy 100%.
That was MY first (2nd and 3rd) thought as well. The yellow toothed cock holster really sells it.
USAFA cadets are mostly spoiled, rich kids whose daddy has the political connections to get them appointed in the first place. How will it all work out? Keep in mind the not so infrequent fragging incidents in Vietnam.
CIA recruiting pool. The losers get to join the FBI.
most of them are just internet police
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For those of us old enough to remember the 60’s & 70’s, I see a very similar situation. After the Johnson and Nixon administrations, and Viet Nam, the American public was deeply demoralized, and had no faith in government or belief in leadership.
I never understood personally why anyone ever looked up to people in government to begin with, but I suppose some people are hardwired to worship authority.
At any rate, by the end of the 1970’s the country was so demoralized that it effected every aspect of society. No one respected or supported government, the military was a joke, the economy was in the toilet, crime was out of control, and drug and alcohol use was rampant.
The numbers of people intoxicated at their jobs was so high it had a huge effect on both productivity and quality of everything produced. No one would vote for police funding, and so the people were forced to do armed patrols their own neighborhoods in what were called Neighborhood Watch Programs.
If anything I see the trust in government being even lower now than it was then, the difference being it is the older demographic that is demoralized.
This however I think is changing with the situation in Gaza. The younger generation has finally seen for themselves that the government is acting immorally, and that may just be the trigger for more rebellion in the future. Just like in the 1960’s once you find out for sure the government has been lying and acting as criminals, you begin to look for and find the other crimes of government which then begin become a pattern. The more you find, the more demoralized and jaded you become.
If the younger people turn on government to the same degree the older people already have, the government is going to have a real problem on its hands….