World’s Most Dangerous Combination: China And Russia

Authored by Gordon Chang via The Gatestone Institute,

Republican presidential hopeful Vivek Ramaswamy knows how to end the greatest threat to American national security.

That threat would be the combination of the world’s two most dangerous states: China and Russia.

“I would freeze the current lines of control,” the candidate told Fox News’s Jesse Watters during his prime time show, referring to the battlefields in Ukraine.

“I would further make a hard commitment that NATO will not admit Ukraine to NATO. That’s enough to get Putin to do the deal.”

“But I would require something even greater in return, Jesse,” Ramaswamy said. “Russia has to exit its military alliance with China.”

Putin will take the deal, the charismatic candidate assured Watters:

“He’s gonna say, ‘Ok’ because I’m going to say, ‘We’ll reopen our economic relations with Russia and further, we’ll end the Ukraine war and also make sure NATO never admits Ukraine.’ “

The interview occurred in late August, but these themes are often heard, in America and elsewhere. Is Ramaswamy on the right track?

In theory, it should be possible to separate Moscow from Beijing. After all, China and Russia have for centuries been competitors, adversaries, and even enemies. Take something as fundamental as their common border. After border skirmishes, they finally settled the boundary only in 2008, when Moscow formally transferred various parcels to China.

Vladimir Putin knows, however, that no border is ever finally fixed, and Chinese migrants are pouring into the sparsely populated Russian Far East. There, many of them hope to “retake” lands ceded by the Qing dynasty to Moscow in the 1850s and 1860s in what Chinese officials now call “unequal treaties.” Beijing has made no formal claim to Vladivostok and surrounding areas, but it has been continually pushing the idea nonetheless.

In short, China poses the greatest threat to Russia, at least over the long term.

The Ramaswamy proposal, however, ignores the reality that as long as Putin and Xi Jinping rule, there is no realistic possibility of breaking up the two states. Both dictators view the world in similar terms; believe that their short-term interests coincide; and identify the same adversary, the United States of America. As Xi said on December 20 as he welcomed Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin to Beijing, “Maintaining and developing China-Russia relations well is a strategic choice made by both sides based on the fundamental interests of the two peoples.”

The two regimes, Xi’s words reveal, have been on the same page for some time. They declared their closeness with the 5,300-word joint statement issued after Putin met Xi in Beijing on February 4 of last year, just 20 days before Russia’s attack on Ukraine. That is when they declared their “no-limits” partnership.

China and Russia are more than just working together. They are forming the core of a new axis. Around this core are proxies and proxies of proxies, such as Iran, North Korea, Algeria, and a host of terrorist groups.

The Chinese and Russian leaders are forming this grouping because they believe the United States, the final guarantor of the international system that frustrates them both, must be taken down. Xi, by, among other things, declaring a “people’s war” on America, has made it clear that the U.S. must be destroyed and Americans exterminated. Putin is less ambitious, only wanting the U.S. out of his way as he recreates the Russian Empire at its greatest extent.

Moreover, Xi and Putin believe that the United States is in terminal decline. “Change is coming that hasn’t happened in 100 years,” the Chinese dictator said on March 22 to the Russian dictator in Moscow while bidding farewell after their 40th in-person meeting. “And we are driving this change together.”

Even if Xi and Putin were not so confident there are reasons for the Russian leader to reject the overtures of a President Ramaswamy. “Washington has little leverage over Russia,” Rebekah Koffler, the author of Putin’s Playbook and former Defense Intelligence Agency analyst, told Gatestone. “There are no carrots to offer to Putin, and the sticks haven’t worked.”

Yes, the Biden administration could drop sanctions and abandon Ukraine, but even those actions, which would be deeply injurious to the U.S. and the international system, would not be enough to break Putin’s bond with Beijing. “Russia does not trust the U.S. and Europe,” Koffler says. “Russia believes the West will continue to try to weaken it economically and militarily. Moscow believes that regardless of who occupies the White House, a Democrat or a Republican, the U.S. will pursue an anti-Russia policy.”

Democrats and Republicans should pursue “anti-Russia” policies: Russia has refused to abide by the rules and norms of the international system. Russia is not only an aggressor state, but it is also engaging in barbaric acts in Ukraine, some of which constitute “genocide” as defined in Article II of the 1948 Genocide Convention.

Ramaswamy says “we have wrongfully cut off Russia from the West.” It is true that Americans and Western actions, as Koffler remarked, “hit the key revenue drivers of the Russian economy,” but how could any nation allow Putin to, among other things, use its banks and financial system while his soldiers were torturing, raping, and killing Ukrainian women and children; committing acts of mass murder in town after town; and abducting hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian children to Russia in an apparent attempt to eliminate Ukrainian identity?

To finance acts of aggression and barbarism in the face of sanctions, Putin has found support from China. By November, China-Russia trade hit $218.2 billion in 2023, exceeding their announced target of $200 billion by the end of 2024. Trade during the first 11 months of 2023 was double the volume in 2018 of $108.3 billion, which itself represented an increase of 24.5% over 2017. Putin will not break this established and fast-growing trade relationship for mere promises from a West he neither likes nor trusts.

China does not, as Ramaswamy tells us, have a “military alliance” with Russia—China has no formal alliances except the one with the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea—but the Chinese and Russian militaries are nonetheless close.

The two forces are worrying the commander of the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, Admiral John Aquilino. This month in Tokyo, he publicly stated that he was “very concerned” about their joint exercises: “I view it as far beyond the marriage of convenience at this point in time.”

In other words, China and Russia are preparing to go to war together. As no country threatens either of them, they are undoubtedly thinking of perpetrating more acts of aggression.

Would Putin join Xi if China were to invade some neighbor? That is not clear, but it is highly likely that the Russian leader will help China. “Russia could conduct shows of force to stretch U.S. and allied surveillance,” Rebecca Grant of defense consultant IRIS Independent Research told Gatestone. “Posturing military moves by Russia could also make U.S. leadership balk.” She points out there could be, for instance, Russian bomber flights or even nuclear weapons exercises.

Russia could also help China by trying to grab even more of the Kuril Islands chain from Japan or moving against a NATO member, such as one of the three Baltic republics, engulfing the Eurasian landmass in conflict, from one end to the other.

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30 Comments
VOWG
VOWG
December 26, 2023 7:26 am

Dare I suggest Biden and Obama as the world’s most dangerous combination.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
December 26, 2023 7:26 am

“Never” is an impossibly long time.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
December 26, 2023 7:32 am

Gordon Chang claimed that China was going to collapse in 2011.

His entire academic career was Ivy and then right into spook central with occasional sinecures around the K-Street law firms. But if he’s advising Vivek, then, well, you know.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  hardscrabble farmer
December 26, 2023 8:25 am

Yeah. And PCR told us the US would never get involved in Ukraine too. Trump told us the “vaccines” were wonderful and beautiful…and SAFE.

People talk shit like it was free every day. This is not news to anyone.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
December 26, 2023 1:41 pm

Eggsperts!

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
December 26, 2023 8:21 am

World’s Most Dangerous Combination: morons and knowledge

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  The Central Scrutinizer
December 26, 2023 8:26 am

honorable mention: drunks and coffee (cofefe).

OK
OK
December 26, 2023 8:24 am

Dangerous for whom? The ones who aren’t done with their looting yet?
“Moreover, Xi and Putin believe that the United States is in terminal decline.”
Yes, the truth is dangerous, the United States is not supposed to realize this…
The PR people have descended into madness.

Dangerous Variant
Dangerous Variant
December 26, 2023 10:04 am

Seems like Xi and Putin have a pretty good read on FUSA. That pharmashwarma and his chinkblot pimp, however…

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
December 26, 2023 10:27 am

So Vivek’s big idea is that Russia will ditch China because the U.S. will promise (again) not to allow the Ukraine into NATO and to end the sanctions that haven’t hurt Russia at all.

Well that’s fucking retarded.

Russia won’t do any deals with the U.S. because the U.S. is full of shit.

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  Iska Waran
December 26, 2023 10:49 am

“Democrats and Republicans should pursue “anti-Russia” policies: Russia has refused to abide by the rules and norms of the international system.”
– GOrdon Chang

Just like the USSA abides by the “rules based order” – Bringing Them Democracy TM and muh Hyper-finance Crony-capitalism” with Pentagram outlets in 800 places around the world.

CHina and Russia are done believing and trusting America.

The True Nolan
The True Nolan
  Iska Waran
December 26, 2023 1:22 pm

“Russia won’t do any deals with the U.S. because the U.S. is full of shit.”

There are no US adults in positions of political authority with whom Russia can make a deal. God knows they tried to make deals — but every time it turned out that the US politicians were liars and thieves.

Jdog
Jdog
  The True Nolan
December 26, 2023 3:11 pm

Putin has come out publicly and stated that he was a fool to believe the West, and that that he would never make that mistake again.
Both Russia and China now understand without a doubt that the West views them as inferior races, and that they will never accept them, or deal with them honestly. The people of the Middle East, South America, and the rest of the non Anglo world are reluctantly coming to the same conclusion.
WW1 was all about making sure that Germany and Russia would never form a strategic trade relationship, which would challenge the UK empire, the West now sees the strategic partnership of Russia and China in the same context, only much worse.
Prior to the 1st and 2nd world wars, the US was a manufacturing giant, and that made it a military giant.
Today, the US has squandered whatever strength it once had, by becoming a third rate manufacturing power, and by allowing corruption to overtake the entire military / Congressional complex.
Russia and China know their future survival depends on their alliance, and that if they stand united the West can never defeat them. The West is threatening to burn the whole world to the ground if Russia and China do not bend to their will, and allow them to dominate the entire planet.
Over the past year I have listened to many former high ranking ex military officers and intelligence operatives who have reluctantly admitted that they are very pessimistic about the future, and the possibility of world war. Seeing as they have spent their entire lives in the company of the people in charge in Washington, that is a very disturbing revelation.
I wish I could say that I thought the people running our country were sane and rational, but their words and actions indicate just the opposite….

Tlate
Tlate
December 26, 2023 10:52 am

in military parlance “very concerned” means scared shatless. China has a formidable military they are no longer a paper tiger. Combined with Russia they would be a military juggernaut. Plan is to move more military assets to the
Indo-Pacific area. Problem is we do not have as many military assets as we once did, and they are already spread throughout the world. Not an easy problem to fix.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Tlate
December 26, 2023 12:20 pm

The US sails ships through the Taiwan Straight and flies warplanes at the edge of China’s airspace and worries about China’s militarily capability being a “problem to fix”. The US has – what – 900 bases around the world and we need to “fix” a theorized China-Russia juggernaut? Even if it were a good idea, the US doesn’t have the ability to perpetually hobble any peer country that starts to climb up off its knees. China graduates 20 times the number of engineers that we do. We have a crumbling infrastructure, an overweight woke military led by ass-kissing political generals and an economy in relative decline. We have a record number of homeless and a population of drug-addled idiots. We have bigger problems than whether China restores control over its province of Taiwan, which is 2% of China’s population.

2% ? 2%?
2% ? 2%?
  Iska Waran
December 26, 2023 3:06 pm

Now, Just WHERE have i heard THAT % being an Issue before?

Jdog
Jdog
  Iska Waran
December 26, 2023 7:12 pm

Those 900 bases are lightly manned, and lightly defended, and easily taken out. They are no different than the bases in Syria and Iraq who have their hands full trying to defend themselves against a bunch of flip flop insurgents with AK’s and improvised warfare. Drone warfare now makes very effective warfare available to poor people, meaning the US in now in a world of shit….

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
December 26, 2023 11:14 am

Time for him to go back home …

As the past 75 years have shown all of US, the world’s most dangerous combination is the US and its controller — israel …

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 26, 2023 11:21 am

“But I would require something even greater in return, Jesse,” Ramaswamy said. “Russia has to exit its military alliance with China.”

For all his smooth talk, that one statement shows you just how full of shit he is.

m
m
December 26, 2023 12:44 pm

“Russia has to exit its military alliance with China.”

Holy shit.
Is this Ramaswamy guy as retarded as the Gatestoned writers?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
December 26, 2023 2:41 pm

Government and power is the worst of all combinations…in ALL countries.

Jdog
Jdog
December 26, 2023 2:46 pm

The entire US government is a collection of assholes and idiots incapable of telling the truth about anything with the possible exception of how incompetent and untrustworthy each other are. Ramaswamy is no exception so far as I can see….

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jdog
December 26, 2023 8:37 pm

Little asshats and idiots.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 26, 2023 3:19 pm

Ghost Chili Pepper Brand Eyedrops

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Anonymous
December 26, 2023 5:21 pm

Makes me blink and scream in pain just reading about it …

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
December 26, 2023 8:31 pm

Sounds more dangerous than Russia and China.

Jackie Puppet
Jackie Puppet
December 26, 2023 6:19 pm

Nice try, kid…

BRICS only got stronger after sanctions against Russia failed, and numerous countries want to be a part of the BRICS alliance.

That will take quite some time for the world to trust America again, if it ever gets to that point.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jackie Puppet
December 26, 2023 8:34 pm

It’s a trap.
They are luring a bunch of dupes into BRICS, and then the Rothschilds are gonna give the Saddam Qaddafi treatment to everyone who tried to brick them out of their cut.

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
December 26, 2023 8:54 pm

After some serious consideration with a few cocktails, Auntie has come to the conclusion that the most dangerous combination that exists is Artificial General (or Super)Intelligence with the whole damned I.T./computer everything civilization that we’ve (actually the B3RG*) emplaced for the world and the malignant-malevolent forces of Hyper-finance Crony-capitalism who have managed to co-opt governments across the globe.

Look what They were able to do just with the CoVid-19(84) (which is the story of the millenium at this juncture.)

m
m
  Aunt Acid
December 27, 2023 5:40 am

>story of the millenium

Ahem.
Covid just fell off the back of the desk, pushed away by the Gaza Genocide. The only way left to top that is all-out nuclear war, me thinks.