DeSantis’s Campaign Is Irrelevant if the GOP Voters Want Trump

Guest Post by Kurt Schlichter

The GOP primaries and caucuses have not actually started, but Donald Trump appears from the polling to be way ahead. I prefer Ron DeSantis, but if you are betting, you would probably put your money on Donald Trump being nominated again. So be it. That’s what primaries are for—to find out what the base wants and to do that. And if that’s what the base wants, that’s what it should get. I’m going to support the nominee whether it is Ron DeSantis or Donald Trump or… well, it’s going to be one of those two. And I am still going to continue to support the nominee even if it is Donald Trump and he picks Nikki Haley as his vice presidential running mate, which I totally see him doing. I am a Republican, and my party winning is what matters first.

An upset victory by Ron DeSantis in Iowa would probably end all the ridiculous commentary about how Ron DeSantis is somehow running a terrible campaign. The idea his campaign is somehow bad is nonsense. Ron DeSantis is running the only campaign he could possibly run in this situation, and he’s running it just fine. Is it perfect? No. Every campaign has ups and downs and problems. But the breathless critiques of his campaign accusing it of somehow being terrible are just plain silly. This is especially prevalent on social media, where you have people announcing that they have never seen a campaign so bad, which might be true since they only got into politics about one or two cycles ago. His campaign is not bad. His path to the nomination is just incredibly narrow and difficult. Plus, Democrat election interference in the form of disgraceful, bogus lawfare rallies Trump’s supporters and focuses attention on Trump.

The reality is that Ron DeSantis has a real challenge in this election in the form of a popular, at least among Republican voters, ex-president who is running again. Republicans like Donald Trump. No one else does. Independents don’t like him, and Democrats positively loathe him to the extent that he would generate huge turnout numbers even for the senile, desiccated old pervert he will be running against (unless they trade Crusty out for Governor Hairstyle). The only path for Ron DeSantis is to somehow get around the fact that Republicans still like Donald Trump. And they should still like Donald Trump. He can be very annoying, but he was also a pretty good president overall and would probably be perfectly acceptable if he won reelection.

Still, a challenger has to get around the voters (many of them new voters) who will never vote for anyone else and those who are open to it in theory but will stick with Trump in practice. You’re either going to overcome the Trump obstacle or you’re not, and a lot of that’s out of your control if you’re challenging him. The only way to do that is to win the argument on electability—the case is that Donald Trump is going to have a very difficult time winning in November because about 53 percent of Americans unreasonably hate him. You’re not going to change the voters’ minds on policy because the two are very similar, though I think Ron DeSantis would be stronger on policy because he’s more ideological and a more focused leader. The only differentiator is electability. Ron DeSantis essentially has to win with the argument that you should go with him because he is more likely to win in November than Donald Trump for a variety of reasons. Of course, the risk is that the voters shrug and say, “We like this guy enough that we’re going to take our chances.”

Which is what the polls, if you believe them, appear to say.

But that’s not the fault of the campaign. Nor does it have much to do with Ron DeSantis. First of all, it’s not necessarily a reflection of the voters’ feelings toward RDS. The polling shows that they like Ron DeSantis just fine, but they prefer Donald Trump this year for various reasons. None of those reasons have anything to do with Ron DeSantis. He remains the second choice of most voters.

The theory that Ron DeSantis is running a bad campaign fails because no one can actually point to something that Ron DeSantis did or did not do that made voters prefer Donald Trump. There’s no “one weird trick” that he could have made people who are inclined to support Donald Trump stop supporting Donald Trump. What RDS always had to do was demonstrate that he is a viable and effective potential president, which he has done – he keeps winning the debates. And then he has to show that he can beat Donald Trump by beating him in Iowa, which he is still looking to do, and maybe he will pull off. But he’s got to pull it off.

The hits on Ron DeSantis’s campaign are incoherent and kind of ridiculous—most of them sound like talking points from the Trump campaign. That’s not a criticism – if your talking points are out there, you are doing your job, but do not confuse the narrative with objective reality. You can’t blame Donald Trump for running a primary and trying to win. You can blame someone for accepting talking points uncritically.

The talking points serve less to convince people to vote for Trump than to provide a rationale for pretending to be mad at the most successful conservative governor in America. There is the disloyalty claim that somehow Ron DeSantis owed it to Donald Trump not to run in 2024. Leaving aside that no one owes a politician anything, this argument is never going to switch a single vote. Anyone buying it is already going to vote for Donald Trump come hell or high water.

Then there are the claims that somehow Ron DeSantis is weird or off-putting. That’s just silly. He’s perfectly fine. Again, no one is going to look at Ron DeSantis and his track record of achievement and say, “Well, his posture’s a little wacky, so I’m going to go with Donald Trump,” unless that person was always going to go with Donald Trump.

Next, there are the people who accuse Ron DeSantis of being some sort of Soros/Ryan/Rove plant, but this is so stupid that you almost have to be willfully dumb or disingenuous to buy it. Hell, Trump’s likely to select as VP the lady Paul Ryan backs. Again, someone who believes this nonsense was never going to vote for him anyway.

Another hit is that DeSantis has failed to spend his time and effort focused on election shenanigans and the unjust prosecution of Trump. RDS actually fixed his state’s election system and has regularly criticized the fascist persecutions. The argument is that he did not do so enough, somehow. But who is the voter who is so mad at DeSantis for not sufficiently addressing these injustices who would have switched to DeSantis if DeSantis had made those grievances the centerpiece of his campaign? None. No one. It’s crazy talk to think that his campaign has made a mistake by not making its central message “My opponent is getting jerked around. Vote for me.”

My new favorite is that somehow Ron DeSantis’s online influencers – by which they mean people who like Ron DeSantis and talk about him positively on Twitter – are so horrible and evil that they have driven away scores of potential Ron DeSantis voters. Boloney. First, maybe 5 percent of the electorate cares what happens on Twitter, and most of them are unlikely to be influenced in any way by the social media fireworks between @GatorRonFan2024 and @FatMAGADeadbeatDad69. Second, it’s kind of difficult to believe that if you were a Trump fan, you are somehow so scandalized by mean tweets that it is going to determine who you vote for in an election. Who is the person who says, “Yeah, I was totally going to vote for Ron DeSantis, but some people who support him had some mean tweets, so I’m going to vote for… Donald Trump instead?”

Now, there are plenty of people who are quite reasonable about why they support Trump. They think Donald Trump did a good job. They think Donald Trump is likely to win next year. They think it’s important to vote for Donald Trump to show the damn Communists that they don’t get to win. You can agree or disagree with those positions, but those are rational positions. There’s no need for mental gymnastics to try to justify not voting for a great candidate like Ron DeSantis. You have the right to vote for who you want and why. But it’s just silly to make up excuses for it.

AFTER CHRISTMAS DEALS

Ron DeSantis has run about the best campaign you could run in this situation. I am sure he would change some things if he has to do it over in 2028; no campaign is perfect, and the key is to learn and improve. He had no choice but to run in 2024 – this was his time to strike. Some people disagree with that but regardless, if he was going to run this year, he needed to run the way he did. He could not and did not make his whole campaign about trashing Donald Trump. That would be intellectually incoherent because he agrees with almost everything Donald Trump did with some differences that he has pointed out. He had to make it about electability, and at some point, the voters have to decide whether they want to roll the dice with Trump 2.0 or go with what I and many others believe is the more likely candidate to win. We will know soon, starting in Iowa, what the voters choose. And then we should all support the winner.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
December 28, 2023 7:47 am

And Trump’s campaign is irrelevant, if the black boxes “count” the “votes” again.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
December 28, 2023 9:04 am

correct!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
December 28, 2023 3:54 pm

They are all irrelevant. Everyone must end Federal Reserve, and cease paying Federal taxes. As is we’re supporting our government inciting a war in Ukraine. A genocide in Gaza etc. WE must stop endorsing the USSA (UN) government before their next false flag attack coming sometime very soon…
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A common sense update on Global-Communism versus Sovereign Nations (senior editor at Ronin’s Revelations). December 31, 2023 edition:
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https://roninhardjan.substack.com/p/americas-shadow-government-behind

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Anonymous
December 28, 2023 10:52 pm

” And I am still going to continue to support the nominee even if it is Donald Trump and he picks Nikki Haley as his vice presidential running mate, which I totally see him doing. I am a Republican, and my party winning is what matters first.”

For fuck’s fucking fucked-up sake……

This is fuck wad idiot fuckery is why we are well and truly fucked.

Fuck that.

A9racer
A9racer
December 28, 2023 7:56 am

War, WEF cyber attack, Biden, looting of the Treasury and economic chaos.
They have already put the election theft in our face and said ” yeah, so what?”.
I have a hard time thinking there will be a 2024 “election”.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  A9racer
December 28, 2023 9:34 am

I have a hard time thinking there will be a 2024 “election”.

The show must go on…

There will be an ‘election’, but we already know it’ll be a farce.

But vote moar harderer… for the children… and democracy

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  anon a moos
December 28, 2023 11:18 am

Stalin had elections too…

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 28, 2023 7:59 am

Kamala has a lie of her own to contribute:

Kwanzaa Means Kamala
https://www.unz.com/isteve/kwanzaa-2/

I’m dreaming of a black Christmas
Just like the ones I never knew . . .

(D’oh! Wrong TBP article. This belongs with the column on the Biden misadministration’s biggest lie.)

A9racer
A9racer
  Anonymous
December 28, 2023 8:03 am

Is it Friday already?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  A9racer
December 28, 2023 9:52 am

I dunno . . . is it?
.

BL
BL
  Anonymous
December 28, 2023 3:00 pm

Almost.

flash
flash
December 28, 2023 8:07 am

“That’s what primaries are for—to find out what the base wants “… I did not knw…The base wanted Bob Dole, Mitt Romney and John McCain… muh democracy…reeee

Tex
Tex
  flash
December 28, 2023 1:46 pm

This is “different”. There are two factions of GOPhers. The standard bearer base and then the TrumpRepubicons ones.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
December 28, 2023 8:18 am

Nikki is a war mongering NEOCON… Chip

invisible
invisible
  SmallerGovNow
December 28, 2023 8:23 am

Will Trump EVER learn? He is considering her for veep.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  invisible
December 28, 2023 9:53 am

But only as assassination insurance.

Scot
Scot
  invisible
December 28, 2023 10:52 am

He’s not. That’s a GOP lie put out to attack Trump.
His son, Don Jr., has publicly said that will never happen.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  invisible
December 28, 2023 11:21 am

No, he said he isn’t….

Arizona Bay
Arizona Bay
  pyrrhus
December 28, 2023 12:27 pm

Looks like President Trump just buried those “Nikki Haley for veep” rumors…

flash
flash
  SmallerGovNow
December 28, 2023 10:36 am

You heard it from Kucky Kirk first, bruh.

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pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  flash
December 28, 2023 11:21 am

Not a chance…

flash
flash
  pyrrhus
December 28, 2023 1:01 pm

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris , bruh…..reeeee

BL
BL
  flash
December 28, 2023 3:04 pm

How can you tell India is soon to be the next China and brought into the first world? Street shitters are on the ballot and in high position in most of the already first world countries. Otherwise, faggettabouddit.

Scot
Scot
  SmallerGovNow
December 28, 2023 10:53 am

And, like Harris and 0bama before her, not a Natural Born Citizen.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  SmallerGovNow
December 28, 2023 11:20 am

Yes, deport her to India….if they’ll take her

Ed
Ed
December 28, 2023 8:54 am

This is funny. Kurtsy thinks that the handful of party fatboys who control the RNC are “The Base”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ed
December 28, 2023 9:55 am

Isn’t he adorable? Full employment for the differently-abled is charity at its best. And he tries so hard. His mother and I are so proud of our little zipperhead, Kurt.

make benefit glorious people's republic
make benefit glorious people's republic
December 28, 2023 9:19 am

“I am a Republican, and my party winning is what matters first.”

i’m an american. america winning is what matters first.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
December 28, 2023 9:47 am

my party winning is what matters first.

You motherfucker! THIS IS WHY we can’t have nice things!

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
December 28, 2023 10:01 am

The “base” never wanted Dole, Romney, or McCain. That is why they lost. They were picked by the same slimeball RINO’s like Paul Ryan who would vote for a Democrat over Trump. I live in Florida and DeSantis has been a good governor, perhaps great. I would like him to be president some day.

Right now, Trump is who we need. Trump 2024 is not Trump 2016. The Democrats and RINO’s rolled him in 2016-2020. It will not happen again. Believe me, he is now surrounded by people who know who the enemy is and who intend to do something about it. And you better believe the Democrat “leaders” understand that. They know that a goodly number of them will be arrested very soon after the inauguration, and the rest later. If I was that vicious scumbag Jack Smith I would not be on U.S. territory after Trump takes the oath.

There are large numbers of loyal Americans quietly preparing for that day, and they are making little lists. And I am not talking about weirdos sitting around the basement of their mother’s house in their underwear. This time, Trump means what he says. This time, no more RINO’s need apply for jobs in the White House.

Yeah, yeah. Why vote? Trump is a jerk. Nikki Haley appeals to wine-guzzling, bitter, “college-educated suburban women” so vote for her. All bullshit. Nikki Haley will not be the VP pick, she is on a road to nowhere, which is where she belongs. The sight of her makes me gag.

Nobody knows who Trump will pick and, knowing it will not be Haley, I will vote for him (or DeSantis, for that matter).

For those of you who think elections don’t matter, I can only say this: Joe Biden. He is destroying this country, a compromised, perverted, corrupt old hack in thrall to the Communists and nutjobs running his party. That he obviously stole the election is irrelevant. If they try it again, it will result in total chaos and they know it. You can’t reheat a soufflé. If Trump clearly wins but they try to rig it, the shit will hit the fan.

History shows many similar events, in which a corrupt ruling party rigs an election and sparks a violent response, or an otherwise minor violent incident lights the powder trail of something huge..

Maybe we will be different, but I doubt it. There is too much economic desperation, anger, and sheer lunacy on the part of the Democrats.

The murderous lunatic John Brown’s raid on Harper’s Ferry, supported by several wealthy New England Abolitionist fanatics, is what made civil war inevitable in the United States. By itself hardly a skirmish carried out by a gang of idiots, the reaction of a small minority in the North made Southerners realize that (or think) that their fellow countrymen wanted them murdered in their beds. That hardly any of the blacks in the South had any intention of doing this was, again irrelevant. Paranoid people in the South believed it and acted on it. These same fearful folks must have felt a bit sheepish when during the entire Civil War there were hardly any instances of revolt or even bad manners on the part of the blacks. They wanted to be free but had not been raised as murdering John Brown’s.

Rational people on both sides knew this was not true and the actions of a few did not implicate the vast majority, but in tense times rational thinking is in short supply. The rest, as they say, is history.

We are all just waiting for John Brown and his gang to arrive.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Southern Sage
December 28, 2023 11:36 am

That’s a lot of typing just to give Trump a reach around.

Tex
Tex
  The Central Scrutinizer
December 28, 2023 1:50 pm

Reality indicator as Sage the ones “touched”.

Arizona Bay
Arizona Bay
  Southern Sage
December 28, 2023 12:33 pm

+1 for the John Brown reference.

Nimrata also got the ball rolling on the monument desecrations that the closet Communists are using to get us to Year Zero.

Claude
Claude
December 28, 2023 10:05 am

Trump is a sucker for a pretty face. He might just pick Nimrod. Then we will know for sure he’s fake and controlled opposition.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Claude
December 28, 2023 10:23 am

Or just being dumb again, like when he hired the swamp in 2016, instead of draining it. Trump is used to succeeding in business, by issuing memos. The monkeybusiness called gummint, well, he’s out of his depth. There, no one issues orders – they just take ’em – as JFK learned in his last breath. The prez is the logo on the .gov train, not the engineer.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Claude
December 28, 2023 11:57 am

Trump is a sucker for a pretty face. He might just pick Nimrod. Then we will know for sure he’s fake and controlled opposition.

Lemme FIFY…

Trump is a sucker for a pretty face. He might just pick Nimrod. Then we will know for sure he’s fake and controlled opposition.

All better now!

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Claude
December 28, 2023 12:56 pm

Nikki Haley has a pretty face?

Tex
Tex
  Iska Waran
December 28, 2023 1:54 pm

I pulled into the auto parts store yesterday and someone had upchucked in one of the store front parking spaces.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Tex
December 28, 2023 8:50 pm

Please continue?

Tex
Tex
  Claude
December 28, 2023 1:52 pm

Although he might select King Cyrus if Cyrus is willing to take a back seat.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 28, 2023 10:06 am

Too bad Trump would never pick DeSantis as his VP just because RDS said some mean things about him.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Anonymous
December 28, 2023 12:12 pm

DeSantis is another zionist shill … who needs him in any position of Federal power when we’ve got 535 of those already?

Tex
Tex
  Anthony Aaron
December 28, 2023 1:58 pm

No kidding! And Trump. Wow, they would make the “Duel Dou” for the Christian Zionist dupe. I bet John Hagee is licking his chops in anticipation. Robert Jeffers too. Kenneth Kopeland too. Paula White too.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  Anthony Aaron
December 28, 2023 2:07 pm

Shill Squared.

Happy New Year
Happy New Year
December 28, 2023 10:28 am

First, DeSantis is owned by Soros. He is an actor to build hope in the right. Trump is the same.
They are all on the same team, reading prepared scripts, pretending that they will save you.
They are evil beings that have sold their souls. They will not save anyone but themselves.
Quit believing all politicians and the truth will be obvious.

Tex
Tex
  Happy New Year
December 28, 2023 1:59 pm

So Soros owns Trump. I don’t think I’ll disagree! lol

B_MC
B_MC
December 28, 2023 10:40 am
B_MC
B_MC
December 28, 2023 10:41 am

His “War Room” put him in this chair and then posted the video. The only thing worse was Dukakis in a tank. https://t.co/OcMt9HjuVu pic.twitter.com/LJph82HRY6

— Bad Fox Graphics (@BadFoxGraphics) December 27, 2023

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Scot
Scot
December 28, 2023 10:51 am

“I prefer Ron DeSantis” is no different than saying “I prefer the GOP” or “I like big government”.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Scot
December 28, 2023 11:59 am

And “I like Trump” is like saying “I like sodomy”. What is your point?

Tex
Tex
  The Central Scrutinizer
December 28, 2023 2:04 pm

LOL, the human race is so “screwed”. I do not doubt someone would like to whip my ass in any type of discussion about Trump for POTUS when I pop the LGBT question. It could really piss some folks off. Either that or just too stupid to believe the event took place and then go sit in their pews Sunday morning.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Tex
December 29, 2023 10:33 am

It’s why my 1911 stays by my side 24 x 7 x 365.

Tr4head
Tr4head
December 28, 2023 11:05 am

You assume we have a GOP? Major LOL. Trump is now a waste of time and no longer a viable alternative for a myriad of reasons, all stemming from his insane ego and pride, putting us at great danger. He doesnt deserve his dissident treatment by Police State but he is certainly not my “GOP” choice because I have no “GOP”. My article below describes what I believe is our only answer, even with nose pinched.

https://worldyturnings.wordpress.com/2023/11/15/the-inevitability-of-tyranny-is-not-inevitable-part-1-2/

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Tr4head
December 28, 2023 1:11 pm

Only mass resistance and decoupling from entangling alliances will save us. RFK is down with the climate scam.

Two if by sea.
Two if by sea.
  Tr4head
December 29, 2023 2:30 am

Holy shit TR4…I’d have never ever pegged you for leaning in this direction.
(Must read your article for clues)
Well written and sincere article, TR4
I don’t see RFK Jr as the push-over TBPers see him as.
Actually, I have great hopes in him being extremely nuanced. We’ll see.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Two if by sea.
December 29, 2023 10:36 am

Perhaps if you stopped immediately ridiculing everyone who disagrees with you, you’d hear more truth.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
December 28, 2023 11:17 am

Trump has said that the horrific Nikki will not be VP…good thing, as I would vote for RFK if that warmonger were on the ticket…

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  pyrrhus
December 29, 2023 10:37 am

And you believed him. Jesus wept.

Arizona Bay
Arizona Bay
December 28, 2023 12:25 pm

“I am a Republican, and my party winning is what matters first.”

And that, in a nutshell, is why we are fucked. For decades normies have voted team red or team blue without looking at individuals. It has filled the halls of congress and the white house with the most loathsome individuals wrapped in red or blue campaign dollars.

What substantive difference is there really between Mitch McConnell and Chuck Shumer except the lobbyists paying their bills? Heck, some give money to both just to be safe. You could go down the list and find they are all scum, including the ones you like. A few just throw out better sound bites than others depending on if you are team red or team blue.

Fuck you Kurt, you are part of the problem and proud of it.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  Arizona Bay
December 28, 2023 12:32 pm

Its help a friend day today, so…

Fuck you Kurt, you are part of the problem and proud of it.

Fuck you Kurt, you are part of the problem.

Much better

Tex
Tex
  Arizona Bay
December 28, 2023 2:07 pm

Yes sir, the “political parties” suck! All of them! They are all subscribers to “free will” in deciding what gender one would like to be. I.E., all is ok with the LGBT. All the parties have LGBT office holders now.

BL
BL
December 28, 2023 3:08 pm

DeSanta is as good as any other wall kisser! ‘Sept maybe Trump the wall kisser and expert Vaxxmeister.

Organized crime only gives you the best of the bestest choices.

Obbledy
Obbledy
December 28, 2023 8:14 pm

Party first eh???do not call yourself an American in my presence!
Your part of problem Kurt,the parties care about their money$!!,and nothing more…….c’mon man!!

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 28, 2023 10:08 pm

Maine just became the second state to have disqualified Trump:

Comer ‘not surprised’ by Maine ballot ruling on Trump, expects more states to follow

.
It’s weird, because the woman who ordered it holds several sensible positions on political issues, as well as many that are awful:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenna_Bellows

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 29, 2023 3:40 am

Methinks the author doth protest too much. Mr. DeSantis campaign is dull, a charge which is usually toxic to a political campaign. President Trump and Mr. DeSantis have a big difference on foreign policy. One suspects that is why the author prefers Mr. DeSantis over President Trump!

Alex Rife
Alex Rife
December 29, 2023 2:24 pm

I won’t vote for any zionist tools.