The Goading

Guest Post by Eric Peters

What are they up to?

It is obvious that the Left is doing its damndest to goad the not-Left (it isn’t the Right, at least not uniformly – as opposed to the uniformity of Left) into doing something about what the Left is doing to “our democracy,” as the Left likes to style its one-party dominion over politics and acceptable thought.

How else to explain the Left’s obviously political persecution of the Orange pinata? It is clear the Left isn’t whacking him so much as goading us to do something useful to the Left. Something like the “insurrection”- as the Left refers to the unarmed protest  that took place after the Orange pinata was removed from office by the Left.

It was far too peaceful an “insurrection” to suit the Left. It needs a real one – and in time to assure “our democracy” does not fall into the hands of the not-Left.

As the character in The Empire Strikes Back warned, it’s a trap!

Just the same as January 6 – only worse – because if the not-Left allows itself to be maneuvered into committing the first overt act, as Franklin Delano Roosevelt put it, the Left will have everything it needs to wage the war it wants to preserve “our democracy.”

FDR wanted a war like that, too.

AFTER CHRISTMAS DEALS

Or – rather – an excuse to get America into the war. And so he goaded the Japanese, first by provocatively stationing most of the Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor, in Hawaii – which was (and is) halfway to Japan. Then he applied economic pressure by cutting off Japan’s supply of the oil it had to have in order to fuel its ships (and so on).

The American public – prior to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor – wanted nothing to do with the war, to the tune of 80-plus percent opposed to America getting into the war. By goading the Japanese to commit the first overt act, FDR also goaded Adolf Hitler into declaring war on the United States and thereby goaded Americans into being overwhelming in favor of going to war with Germany and Japan.

Similarly, the Southern Confederacy allowed itself to be maneuvered into committing the first overt act by Abraham Lincoln, who was a creature very much like the Biden Thing in that he was a tyrannical consolidator (consolidation without consent entailing violence to achieve it being definitionally tyrannical; and by violence is just exactly how Lincoln “preserved the Union,” which meant the cementing of the absolute power of the consolidated federal government over all the states, not just the Southern ones).

The psychology of the thing is not only important, it is arguably determinative. Most people instinctively dislike/disapprove of the man who throws the first punch – for they regard him as the aggressor – and understand, amen and defend the man who punches back. It does not matter that the man who throws the first punch may have been goaded so badly that his throwing it is both understandable and even necessary, in the moment it was thrown.

The throwing of the first punch by the South – at Fort Sumter in South Carolina – was tactically justifiable but politically (psychologically) foolish.

It was thrown because the fort guarded the South’s most important port; the reasoning (of the Southern leadership) was that if the Northern forces were left in control of the fort, they would be able to control what entered the port. More precisely, what would be unable to enter the port – thus depriving the South of the resources it badly needed and would need more of. It was reasonable reasoning very much of a piece, when you think about it, with the reasoning of the Japanese leadership to throw a punch (which they hoped would be a knockout blow) at the American Pacific Fleet stationed at Pearl Harbor.

They both reasoned wrongly.

In both cases – as well as in our case – it would be better if the aggressor threw the first punch. It would make it clear who the aggressor is, for starters – and that’s no small thing. It might be the most important thing. It certainly might have been that, in the case of what is absurdly styled (for obvious psychological reasons) the American “Civil War.” Which was no such thing since it was never the aim of the Southern Confederacy to take control of the country but rather to form their own, new one. That was an aim approved of by an interestingly large percentage of Northern public opinion, which wanted no part of a war to force the Southern states back into “union” at bayonet-point.

And at the cost of hundreds of thousands of Northern as well as Southern lives.

Had Lincoln been obliged to commit the first overt act – to pursue the course he always intended – it would have been seen by public opinion in the North as just exactly that, rather than a necessary response to an attack.

The Left is doing its best – that is, its worst – to goad the not-Left into doing just exactly what will serve to justify the course the Left already intends to pursue and is pursuing. Only it will be more so if we allow ourselves to be maneuvered into throwing it.

So let’s not be goaded into throwing it.

Vivek Ramaswamy – the unlikely presidential aspirant – showed how not to be goaded the other day. An aggressively Leftist LBGTQ+ (and probably xyzpdq, too) “activist” attempted to goad the candidate into saying something “hateful” or “homophobic.” Instead of reacting in a way that would have amped up the tension, Vivek refused to be goaded. Instead, he very deftly, very calmly, responded – with reason rather than a counterpunch.

It diffused the tension. It showed that we don’t need to be throwing punches at one another. The lesson being it will be much more difficult – psychologically (and so otherwise) for the Left to say we threw the first punch if we refuse to be goaded into throwing it. And that will make it much less tenable for the Left, if it decides to go ahead and throw the first punch our way.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
December 28, 2023 1:10 pm

I suggest the French Resistance approach from WWII with a slight variation…instead of enticing the Democrats/Nazi’s with women use children…and then a quick head shot.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
December 28, 2023 3:45 pm

I’ve written about this for a while. Fear they’ll throw in the towel and facilitate a “domestic terrorist” incident, seeings how well we’re behaving.
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A common sense update on Global-Communism versus Sovereign Nations (senior editor at Ronin’s Revelations). December 31, 2023 edition:
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https://roninhardjan.substack.com/p/americas-shadow-government-behind

ICE-9
ICE-9
December 28, 2023 1:36 pm

It’s not left versus right like they want us to believe. It’s the productive class versus the non-productive class.

The non-productive class is dependent upon the productive class so they have to grab the means of power or their gravy train ends. The productive class is too busy producing and doesn’t have the time to pursue power and the non-productive class knows this and uses it to their full advantage. Non-productive people are congregate into cities thus the urban / rural divide. Most national endeavor including tech and war industries produces nothing of utility.

Its class warfare hiding behind ideology perpetrated by conjuring magicians. And its coming to a head.

IQ Test is over. Test of Resolve coming. Prepare accordingly.

m
m
  ICE-9
December 28, 2023 2:00 pm

The whole “class” concept in philosophy is [modernist] bullshit.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  m
December 28, 2023 2:23 pm

It might be bullshit in philosophy but it is true in reality on the ground.

Obbledy
Obbledy
  m
December 29, 2023 12:04 pm

Also antithetical the the American ideal,were supposed to be a CLASSLESS society…….

WAS
WAS
  ICE-9
December 28, 2023 2:12 pm

Be careful what you wish for, AI may make lots more people unproductive.

America is a Tijuana Donkey Show
America is a Tijuana Donkey Show
  WAS
December 28, 2023 2:51 pm

I’ll say AI and all manner or tech/software is going to make an enormous number of people unproductive. Fact.

Goat!
Goat!
  America is a Tijuana Donkey Show
December 28, 2023 3:36 pm

Yep. That was my post BTW, and when I used AI that was the intent as you expressed. Not sure how my byline got changed to WAS, lol.

flash
flash
  ICE-9
December 28, 2023 5:49 pm

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Goat!
Goat!
  flash
December 28, 2023 10:03 pm

Yeah, that’s how slaves are rated.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
December 28, 2023 10:28 pm

Your self-worth may not be measured by what and how much you produce, but your worth to others in a society that practices division of labor certainly is. You can produce things, you can produce knowledge, empathy, comedy or any of a hundred other things. But, if you produce nothing at all, why should anyone else care if you’re alive?

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  flash
December 29, 2023 7:30 am

By their fruits you shall know them.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Hardscrabble Farmer
December 29, 2023 9:40 am

You said a mouth full!

Simplicus Carpenteria
Simplicus Carpenteria
  ICE-9
December 28, 2023 8:44 pm

Well I must’ve passed with high marks because that has been my summation for quite some time . I have simplified it down to makers and takers , but it is essentially the same explanation . I think it does however get a bit dicey trying to figure out exactly where the line of demarcation might be as a lot of people work really hard at not really producing anything that is a net positive in terms of real commodity . Of course they don’t see it that way but it is nevertheless the case . A.I. might actually be a golden opportunity to shed a lot of these types of jobs.
A lot of people who spent quite a bit of time jumping thru academic hoops so that they’d know how to essentially fill out paperwork or do tedious bean counting activities and so on . They think A.I. is going to render a skilled tradesman like myself obsolete while in reality that’s a long way off while their job’s not s will actually be the first to go .

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Simplicus Carpenteria
December 28, 2023 10:31 pm

True story. Many white-collar jobs are much more amenable to “outsourcing” to automation than blue-collar jobs are. AI will be able to write excellent software long before it will be able to troubleshoot and then rebuild an automatic transmission or an injector pump.

Goat!
Goat!
  Anonymous
December 28, 2023 10:43 pm

Do electric cars have transmissions and injector pumps?

Will
Will
  Anonymous
December 29, 2023 2:32 am

“troubleshoot and then rebuild” is an archaic concept-it is a throw away world we live in. We no longer train people to troubleshoot anything, let along repair it. Toss the old one in a landfill and buy a new one.

Electric cars may not have transmissions or injector pumps, but they do have gadgets of similar complexity.

Goat!
Goat!
  Will
December 29, 2023 3:02 am

Really? I should think that it would be hard to make a glorified (electric) golf cart to complex. Certainly most the complexity would come from the human interface and control systems. Much of that complexity can be very much simplified when there is no human in the equating. How much complexity is built into the back of a good old fashioned taxi cab where the passengers sit?
Is the simplicity the reason they want to go to EV? Easier for AI / cyborgs to troubleshoot and repair when humans need not be part of the equation?

Will
Will
  ICE-9
December 29, 2023 2:25 am

Just like drip, drip, drip, the productive class is being thinned. More people sucking tit, even entire generations being brought up to do just that. There will come a point where the fruits of the productive class are no longer sufficient to keep our country upright. And don’t think the other side doesn’t know that. All the Al Gores, John Kerrys, EPAs, and OSHAs of the world are in on the plan and hold status in the non-productive class.

Obbledy
Obbledy
  ICE-9
December 29, 2023 12:02 pm

Just like the civil war eh?…..

monger
monger
December 28, 2023 1:50 pm

I don’t know, Rittenhouse had his showdown and antifa, BLM wound down quickly after that. Maybe peoples lights started to turn on. on both sides.

Next time they want to light up a city, 10 Rittenhouses a day every day ? Not that i’m hoping for it. Praise God for peace but i could see things taking off rather quickly, under certain circumstances.

While we are still in more civilized times make damn sure you’re in the right under the law and in a community of like minded people who won’t convict you.

A jury weighed two counts of homicide, one count of attempted homicide, and two counts of reckless endangerment, and found Rittenhouse not guilty on all charges.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  monger
December 28, 2023 2:29 pm

It also helps if the people you shoot have all done time for raping children and beating women, have illegal firearms and there is an abundance of video evidence including infrared video from an FBI surveillance plane.
Seems the left has been throwing lots of punches without result. The time to hit back hard will be when they have become so used to doing whatever they want that they grievously jump the shark and reap the whirlwind they have sown.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Harrington Richardson
December 28, 2023 8:52 pm

H R – I will be keeping an eye out on your state to see what Gov Blob orders his gestapo to do to those who have failed to register their firearms. I’m guessing, he will pick a high profile target to take down very publicly with a large SWAT team. They will drag the gun owner out and then show his arsenal.

Gun confiscation is a bright red line for a lot of folks.

Swrichmond
Swrichmond
  monger
December 28, 2023 5:21 pm

Jurisdiction is now the only thing that matters. Truth doesn’t matter anymore.

You will know the not-left is sufficiently pissed when low-, mid-, and high level lefties start disappearing (“shoot, shovel, and shut up”) or being killed and left to be found.

It’s not above the command-level lefties to sacrifice some number of their national pols in a false flag built around this.

It’s actually amazing the FBI hasn’t yet managed to fund, train and implement such a plan using patsies like hutari militia or whatever, given the apparent desperation of the left.

Will
Will
  Swrichmond
December 29, 2023 2:41 am

It won’t be long before the next wave of BLM/Antifa/non-English speaking immigrant armies start using identity change tactics-just like a chameleon does. Just like the eff-bee-eye does from time to time with their plants. Dress like a Trumpie and wear a MAGA hat; get a thousand to do the same-they run wild and do what they did in the summer of Saint George. Few if any-least of all the corrupt media-will recognize who is behind the “terrorist right wing conspirators”. Hell, democrats do that all the time by running as a republican and getting elected. Fooling most of the people all the time is becoming pretty easy.

Goat!
Goat!
  Will
December 29, 2023 3:08 am

I was under the impression they already have been using those tactics (changing profiles. good one to know / implement personally too). Though it does at times take some doing knowing if the players are private actors or gov.

old geezer
old geezer
  Will
December 29, 2023 11:29 am

you seem to be describing a black swan event

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 28, 2023 2:19 pm

One could conclude that the left is trying to provoke a fight. But, it would be one they would probably lose unless only a small group action allowed them to take massive retaliation. That is a real risk given the left will use any excuse to acquire more power. In addition, or perhaps instead, the left may simply be rubbing our noses in it as a way to enjoy their power, and also wear us down with indignities to which we cannot respond. Finally, this article may be an attempt to convince us to keep eating the manure sandwich by making us afraid to retaliate so as not to be viewed as the aggressor. If a bully punches his victim often enough trying to provoke a fight, he may knock the victim out before he reaches the ignition point.

WAS
WAS
  Anonymous
December 28, 2023 3:10 pm

By goat!
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Anonymous
Anonymous
  WAS
December 28, 2023 4:16 pm

Exactly.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  WAS
December 28, 2023 7:51 pm

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
December 28, 2023 7:52 pm

On the other hand:

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The takeaway, I think, being that discernment will continue to be necessary in order to not fall prey to goading of the second meme while keeping in mind that a line can easily be crossed that will subject you to the circumstances of the first meme. Where is that line? How will you recognize it? What will you do when it is crossed?

Remember, when the goading and provoking fail to elicit the “first punch”, TPTB have no compunction about going full Khmer Rouge at the drop of a hat and later just telling survivors that you DID throw that first punch.

Goat!
Goat!
  Anonymous
December 28, 2023 9:59 pm

What’s stopping them then?

Will
Will
  Goat!
December 29, 2023 2:45 am

Another couple million illegals should be adequate to move the gear selector from “N” to “D”.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Goat!
December 29, 2023 9:45 am

There is currently a restraining Spirit at work in this world holding unbridled evil in check. Perhaps you’ve heard of it?

Now imagine what it’s going to look like when that restraint is removed.

We get a little closer every day.

Obbledy
Obbledy
  Goat!
December 29, 2023 12:19 pm

Right?we will KNOW what they are going do when they START doing it,once they start shooting,they reveal their position(s)also have hard target infra-structure to protect

We surround them
A statement not an instruction.

The True Nolan
The True Nolan
  Anonymous
December 28, 2023 6:34 pm

The left started throwing REAL punches years ago. Remember BLM? ANTIFA? The problem is that even if the left throws a thousand punches without the right hitting back, most people only see what the MSM tells them. The MSM refuses to accurately or meaningfully report on how the left is ALREADY attacking the right, but we know that any punch back from the right (Rittenhouse?) will be magnified into a violent right wing first strike.

Barring a miraculous change of heart from the MSM, any right wing defensive act will ALWAYS be presented as an aggressive act, an attack on poor defenseless liberals.

Will
Will
  The True Nolan
December 29, 2023 2:47 am

Case in point: the Covington Kids and the Fake Indian. And they did not have bullets like Kyle did.

VOWG
VOWG
  The True Nolan
December 29, 2023 8:51 am

You would not kill them then and you will not kill them when they are killing you.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  The True Nolan
December 29, 2023 9:48 am

You’re gonna have to get past that mind fuck if you want to live.

Obbledy
Obbledy
  The True Nolan
December 29, 2023 12:23 pm

The media IS them!a cancer so imbedded as not to be removed
The patient must die…………..
sorry….

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
December 28, 2023 8:29 pm

the left, the left……………

Call it what IT IS, EVIL!

Obbledy
Obbledy
  Anonymous
December 29, 2023 12:11 pm

Cannot respond?,please see above comment

Tom MacGyver
Tom MacGyver
December 28, 2023 3:23 pm

And so, the left will continue doing what it’s been doing, eliminating our freedoms and liberties, while at the same time allowing its useful idiots to “peacefully protest” across the country…

Pardon me, but it seems the Left threw the first punch a LONG time ago…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Tom MacGyver
December 28, 2023 4:20 pm

In the context of a huge country, what the left has done is like continuing to give someone the stink eye. It is irritating but not enough to justify throwing a punch. The game for them is to literally kill us with a thousand micro-cuts. When we finally get fed up, we will already be in chains with a gun at the back of our heads.

ray
ray
December 28, 2023 3:50 pm

The Left has been doing nothing but throwing punches for four decades.

Clearly, however, their tactic is to persecute, mock and belittle us in order to goad a response. Even the mildest response will, of course, result in Maximum Punishment by the Regime. As the J6 ‘insurrectionists’ discovered.

Goat!
Goat!
  ray
December 28, 2023 10:07 pm

“If this be treason, make the most of it.”-Patrick Henry

Will
Will
  ray
December 29, 2023 2:54 am

The protest movement during the Vietnam War set the stage for the left’s increasing attacks on our country. A game changer was the ability of the media to capture war scenes and quickly spread them with little regard to accuracy in what they were “reporting”. Not saying that the Vietnam War was legit and should have been defended; in hindsight it seemed more like flawed foreign relations giving way to MIC interests.

flash
flash
December 28, 2023 5:15 pm

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mark
mark
  flash
December 28, 2023 7:13 pm

1,000 +

Bullwinkle
Bullwinkle
  flash
December 28, 2023 7:26 pm

Good “Law abiding” White Americans would never even think about disobeying any of the millions of arbitrary Laws.
Liberty and Gods Natural Laws take a far back seat (as in a long bus) to “Mans” arbitrary and immoral Laws

Will
Will
  flash
December 29, 2023 2:56 am

Looks a trip to Hobby Lobby and Ace Hardware might be in order.

flash
flash
December 28, 2023 5:41 pm

I’m crowd funding my climate friendly cricket farm now. First 50 investors gets 100 pounds of non-gmo prime cricket carcass and their very own, gender neutral, blue tooth enabled butt plug.
Message me @FinanceTheBugsAndGetThePlug plus Bill Gates will like you on FB.

Will
Will
  flash
December 29, 2023 2:57 am

and he will be trying to fuck fourteen year old local girls with his limp dick.

Old Guest
Old Guest
December 28, 2023 5:48 pm

Lend/Lease was in full swing, FDR wanted in. France and England declared war after Poland was attacked and Germany reciprocated. Then we were ‘in’. That ain’t goading .

k31
k31
December 28, 2023 5:48 pm

I think Peters offers a Christian perspective without naming Jesus here. He does serious as well as humor, it seems.

FJB
FJB
December 28, 2023 6:20 pm

Today, unlike the times at the beginning of the last Civil War here, we can expect another false flag operation to make it look as if the not-left is the aggressor. Look at what happened in isreal. Look at what happened Jan6 here.
The left will create an attack if it serves their purpose of creating a martial law state so as to prevent the election of the People’s President.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
December 28, 2023 8:56 pm

The best way to fight back is to put sand in the gearbox

Juan
Juan
December 29, 2023 12:47 am

fwiw- i would contend that “they” have been throwing the “first punch” going back before lincoln tyrant (President Jackson vs central bank and the evil behind all that), on to the reature from jekyll island, wilson, eff dr. look what they did to Senator McCarthy ( was he incorrect in his allegations?). they punched Nixon in the “debate”. they punched j/rfk, mlk,et al. they Punched The Holy Bible out of schools, courts… they debased the constituional coinage. they imposed reverse racism, followed by destroying homes/families with “choice/rights” like anti-male thinking, career over family, killing their unborn children, immidest dress/behavior, on to lesbianism and other unspeakable perversions. they pushed- what one does in their bedroom is no one else’s concern. now they all but freely claim all children as “theirs” and do unimaginable insults to even infants. they made the military pervy. they all buy destroyed all “Christian” practices. how many local, state, national elections have they stolen these few decades? was jsix not a sucker punch? djt has something like 91 outstanding legal charges. while the sun cunter continues unabated.

I believe in turning the cheek 7 times 70. I’ve read Mr Peters’ site daily for years and periodically support him. I listen to him on David Knight’s show.
I am a fan!

i just wanna point out, in my opinion, that “we”, the true americans, have been taking ALL the punches. Name the big name demonrats punished in your lifetime. killry? fake black hussein? pedo zhou? when was the last time anyone was executed for treason? 🧐

Not saying anyone needs do anything. merely providing, i hope, a larger “picture”. a gentle reminder.

G-d’s hedge of protection and guidance for us all.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Juan
January 1, 2024 2:12 am

G-d…………….

VOWG
VOWG
December 29, 2023 8:49 am

Kill the commies, stop talking.

Obbledy
Obbledy
December 29, 2023 12:01 pm

That all sounds nice but……they will set up the nonleft, blame us anyway and be done…..at some point,knowing they are liars anyway,you HAVE to stop worrying about what they say and FIGHT!!! we’ll clean up the bs later……