A doctor at Cedars-Sinai posted a TikTok video saying “it is okay to be fat,” and that being fat “needs to be normalized,” despite obesity-related diseases being the biggest killer in America.
Yes, really.
“Here’s my hot take as a doctor, I totally agree, it is okay to be fat, we don’t say that enough, but it needs to be normalized,” remarked Dr. Nicole Vangroningen.
Internal medicine doctor at @CedarsSinai says it’s totally ok to be fat and unhealthy.
According to the CDC, obesity related disease is the leading cause of death in America. https://t.co/r2aClqIZO0. pic.twitter.com/1R888AQIld
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2024
Vangroningen went on to claim that being fat is “typically not a problem that requires immediate solving.”
Presumably, it only needs “solving” once an obese person has developed numerous fat-related diseases that greatly increase their risk of dying.
Perhaps even more ludicrously, the doctor said “it is okay to not be healthy,” suggesting that people who suggest otherwise are engaging in “healthism,” adding “a good doctor will not judge you for being fat, they will not judge you for being unhealthy.”
Vangroningen completely removes any responsibility from the equation, telling potential patients, “We are also here to help you if you decide to not make any changes at all”.
God forbid anyone end up under her “care”.
According to the CDC, “In the United States and worldwide, obesity is also associated with the leading causes of death, including deaths from diabetes, heart disease, stroke, and some types of cancer.”
We now have doctors speaking out against “healthism.”
The medical field is determined to kill whatever shred of credibility it still has left. And it is succeeding. https://t.co/uOKWUmiAbO
— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) January 8, 2024
“We now have doctors speaking out against “healthism,” commented Matt Walsh.
“The medical field is determined to kill whatever shred of credibility it still has left. And it is succeeding.”
As we document in the video below, the ‘body positivity’ movement has been triumphed by the culture and the establishment despite literally killing some of its leading advocates.
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“Oink, oink, oink”
“It’s OK to drink as much alcohol as you want every day as long as you can until….. whatever”
“It’s OK to take methamphetamine as long as you can until….. whatever.”
“It’s OK to take Fentanyl as much as you can until …….whatever.”
“It’s OK to take all of our deadly drugs as we kill as many of you we can as long as we can make infinite money until…..whatever.”
-All drug dealers both legal and illegal.
Lol kinda self serving. Keep those unhealthy customers, patients, coming in.
Eat like a pig! We have pills to treat your ills, and the ills caused by our pills!
Welcome to your obesity health care merry go round. The end of the ride is when you run out of money or die.
Skip the pills.
Tobacco makes you skinny and it’s cheaper. It’s easy to grow in your own backyard.
Cigars are for men.
Cigarettes are pussys.
Vaping is for……..
The end of the ride is usually more miserable for longer if you are fat.
Or she is on the WEF population reduction payroll.
Right there. THAT’S the fucking attitude that MAKES fat people!!!
This guy is a 3 tard!
You tell ’em Langley!
I think it’s great they’re pushing this. It’s just another arrow in their quiver for thinning the dumb asses out there.
I bet she rocks to that disgusting Jardiance commercial.
This fucking commercial triggers my trigger finger in so many ways.
Yeah.
Don’t stop stuffing garbage into your fat face. Take another pill.
Simple, gauranteed diet plan:
Eat less than the amount that will maintain or increase your present weight.
That’s it.
If this is a problem?
Then you must examine your eating habits.
Somewhere, you are eating out of habit, not need.
There is an uncanny valley feel to that thing. Its shape and the way it “moves” doesn’t seem right. Disturbing.
The YouTube comments are hilarious
Comedy gold in those comments, you’re right.
She was gasping for breath for 1/2 hr after that take.
I showed this to my mom and she is p8ssed off. She won’t do anything cus her doctor said yes. Clown.
The face of fetal alcohol syndrome.
Say it with me again, physiognomy is key.
I was thinking it was the eyes and this broad is batshit crazy
That is quite amazing HSF. You can tell the syndrome by simply looking at someone? LOL
You one of these people who says “I see someone I don’t see race”?
Yes, it is possible to look at a human being and determine all kinds of things about the genetic makeup, health, fitness, etc.
She has five strong indicators of FAS. She’s also had lip filler and she’s using mascara. Those are observable data points and put together with her brilliant medical analysis I’d guess she’s a clear candidate for that diagnosis.
YMMV
I can determine FAS exists around here by reading the comments. The indicators are obvious.
I haven’t seen looked for FAS in person since I started studying people’s faces. But looking at the indicators, and looking at her, I’m not seeing it. I watched it just to see if she turned her head sideways.
Her face screams ‘problematic’ though.
seen looked? I’m not sure what I was even shooting for there.
…and she’s using mascara.
Huh??? Mascara indicates FAS?? Oh, Lord, I’m in trouble. 😂
I wear light makeup day to day, but when I go out I do enjoy wearing mascara. In fact, I love playing around with makeup to create different looks…just for fun.
What does that say about me? Curious.
“I love playing around with makeup to create different looks…just for fun.”
just means you’re a girl
“I wear light makeup day to day”
it means you are just as susceptible to training and propaganda as other women, despite what you have said
it means you are just as susceptible to training and propaganda as other women, despite what you have said
Hmmm…I don’t know. I don’t think so. I like getting fixed up; it makes me feel good. I don’t like bumming around and not taking care of myself. I very much enjoy being girly. I’d feel too much like a tomboy otherwise. But, nice try.
AA,
Don’t worry about him, be a girl. Girls are hot.
Who taught you that you’re a bum if you don’t smear chemical garbage on your face?
Being girly in Africa might mean rubbing clay on your tits, stabbing a needle through your lip, or spackling cowshit on your hair. You can’t claim to be an independent thinker and say you are doing it other than to fit in with the herd, fool a guy, or in the modern context – because advertisers conned your grandmother. (minus the cowshit, that might kill lice or something)
I have no herd. And the guy I’m with likes the way I look with or without. Doesn’t make any difference to him.
I do it because *I* like it. Everything I do in life is because *I* want to.
Definitely some anon on the internet is not going to change my mind, cuz ya know, I’m an independent thinker.
You talked about what the women around you do, because you are comparing yourself to all of them, and you know they will judge you if you vary too far from norms. Doing something only for yourself means not comparing yourself to others.
“Everything I do in life is because *I* want to.”
I can’t imagine anyone who has had kids, had animals, or had a job has ever achieved this.
Do you publicly go around naked, or barefoot, or dressed like Cleopatra, or wearing comfy sweatpants… just because you want to?
What??? Why are we talking about this? Why do you care so much if I wear makeup or not? I’m not available if this is your way of asking me out (assuming you’re a dude, which is questionable at this point).
I’m extremely observant. I notice everything around me, including what other women do. It doesn’t mean I’m comparing myself to them, it just means that I notice. You have a weak argument. I don’t give a damn what others think about me – that should be evident by my comments around here – have you ever noticed how many dv’s I get??
I have animals – everything I do for them is because it brings me joy. I work for myself – everything I do for work is because I want to.
YES, I go around dressed like Cleopatra…BECAUSE I WANT TO.
Now, what else would you like to know about me since you seem HIGHLY interested?
Not everything is about you.
“YES, I go around dressed like Cleopatra…BECAUSE I WANT TO.”
I don’t believe you but that’s the spirit!
I can’t speak for other women but I like to spruce myself up a little and mascara is part of that. Very few women are so blessed they don’t need to wear make up.
I watched a few seconds of the video. Those are false eyelashes. It’s quite easy to tell. It’s a weird fad that a lot of younger women have picked up and it just looks dumb. Yesterday a news woman out in the field reporting on the snowstorm had the snowflakes falling on her stupidly long false lashes and getting stuck there and she was blinking like crazy. It was quite funny.
“Very few women are so blessed they don’t need to wear make up.”
No, just very few women were raised to not think they needed in the makeup arms race / pecking order.
It’s like saying very few men were so blessed they didn’t need powdered wigs or mouches a few hundred years ago. Only now there are powerful corporate interests pushing it.
Oh blah!!! Make up goes way back to the days of Cleopatra. Get over it.
And you ain’t no Cleopatra.
There is nothing wrong with enjoying makeup. But if you use it constantly, you are just lying to yourself or others.
I don’t use it when I go to the barn to play with my horse. Do I have your approval now?
Forget about me being an asshole anonymous and ignore the combativeness.
“I don’t use it when I go to the barn to play with my horse.”
Think over the implications of this statement.
The implications are because I get very dirty at the barn. My horse rubs his face against mine, I hug on his neck (rubbing my face on him in the process)…makeup just doesn’t work in that scenario.
When I come home, I have to shower immediately because I’m filthy and smell like a barn. Then…I put on makeup.
I spent too much of my life around horses and horse chicks to believe any of this.
Thank you for your comment, MC. I don’t see a problem with make up. But the men around here seem not to like it. Like I said, I don’t wear a ton, I just like what I have.
The women around me (Texas) do indeed wear false eyelashes. That’s not my thing, but I say more power to them if that’s what they like. Although, some are way too long to look real & natural.
My dream job (one of them, at least) would be to work on a movie set with wardrobe & make up. I think it would be so fun to research historical fashion and to try to recreate that look for the movies. But alas, I don’t think I can work with the Hollywood types, so that dream may never materialize.
Well, Abby, we are surrounded by guys here. Don’t expect them to ever understand us, or us them.
That said, I still prefer hanging out with men over women. Most women annoy the shit out of me.
This is why I don’t take you seriously.
Did you think I meant that wearing mascara was an indicator of FAS?
What I meant was that if you look at a person you can see all kinds of things that other people routinely pass over, like a 60 year old newscaster with black hair isn’t really an old guy with youthful looks, he’s using hair dye. Or the lip filler. Etc.
In other words it’s important to look at all the details of a living creature when you are assessing fitness and not be fooled by things like make up or titles.
I’d list the 5 features I see but if you just look you’ll see them too. Or if you listen to her speech pattern and vocabulary you’ll probably be able to peg her IQ to about a five point spread.
She’s a doctor because she displaced a better qualified male due to her intersectionality, certainly
Not her understanding of human health or concern for her patients.
She’s a midwife posing as a physician encouraging people to continue with their destructive lifestyle so she doesn’t fall out of favor with the ingroup that allowed for her Peter Principle rise to her current position of authority.
Whatever. See it or don’t makes no difference to me.
being at cedars sinai is the icing on the cake
This is why I don’t take you seriously.
My gawd, can you chill out & relax, ever? Is your uptightness a New England thingy or what??
HSF, you shouldn’t take me seriously. You’re an old man, and well…I’m not. Why would you take me seriously? I don’t even take myself too seriously – that is no way to live. Why would you take anything on the internet seriously? I could be AI for all you know.
This place is like Fox News in the sense that it is for entertainment only. It’s not like any real problems are getting solved here. We all come here to bitch & vent, and I’m no different. I am not perfect in any way, I sin (masterfully) all the time, and I don’t know everything….but I do know a lot…so I just simply share my experiences & opinions here just like everyone else.
What I am though, is confident. I am a passionate, confident person. And a lot of people are bothered by that…especially old cantankerous men. I’ve had to completely rebuild my life since 2020, and I’m proud of my accomplishments and I simply share what I’ve done & learned since then, including getting closer to my own family. Take it all with a grain of salt, or don’t, makes no difference to me. The only reason I’ve stayed so long is to have access to some truly brilliant minds, such as i forget & Archaeopteryx Phoenix (and a few others), both who are now gone and terribly missed for their humor, wit, cleverness, & brilliance. I mean, my gawd HSF, I gave you an opening to respond to me with something truly hilarious when I said, “What does that say about me?”
I could think of a 100 things you could have come back with. SMH. Are you sure you were a comedian? Honestly, I don’t see it.
Anyway, I knew what you meant in your comment. Contrary to popular belief, I am not stupid. It just struck me as funny when you mentioned mascara…so I was being playful…even though I know you cannot recognize playfulness. My comment was for my own humor really.
On that note, chill out for God’s sake & go have a beer. Geez.
me me me me
Kicking ass, chewing bubblegum, and taking names.
&ct=g
I so love that AA.
There is a plethora of humor and a sickening dearth of the same here.
Lighten the fuck you overly chapped Frances’!
We live in Clown World…Why so serious!
HAHAHAHAHHAHA!
AA,
It tells me you’re fun. 🙂
😎 (not wearing mascara right now, so gonna hide my eyes)
If you can prove your analysis/diagnosises, you’ve got yourself a billion dollar skill. Btw, nowadays, I see race almost as much or more than anything else.
The death of personal responsibility. Nothing is your fault because “s*** happens”….
“I think people who do are trying to cling to a sense of control and say ‘that person is sick because they did X, Y and Z things,'” she said.
The doctor explained in the clip: “The reality is s*** happens and even the healthiest people get sick, it is no fault of their own.”
With regards to those who do engage in activities that are considered risk factors for certain diseases, such as smoking, the doctor said: “No one deserves to get a horrible illness, no one deserves that.”
https://www.newsweek.com/health-tips-doctor-advice-warning-viral-tiktok-1842326
“No one deserves to get a horrible illness, no one deserves that.”
HSF, they can ignore reality but they cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. I think that was from Ron Paul. I use it all the time because it is true.
So the message is get fat, stay fat, die young. Story checks out according to the WEF.
She totally does not have a conflict of interest here does she.
Hmm,
Do thin patients in good health need doctors more or less than morbidly obese people on scooters?
Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out she has a serious conflict of interest here.
Does this obeseness problem go away when junk food and soda pop are replaced with “zee bugz” and recycled sewer water?
The past couple days I haven’t felt well. I’m still not quite up to par. No real symptoms except a low grade fever in the evening and a sinus headache, some nausea and no energy. Yesterday I just napped and watched “air” TV looking for funny old sitcoms and such.
I think the pharma industry was the only advertiser. One ad after another was for some kind of drug. Some were drugs to counteract or add to another drug. Makes me wonder how many people are taking drug cocktails that are just making them sicker.
Plenty of Negro males wiff white wimmen in those advertisements. For good measure, bigot. /s
My wife worked as a pharmacy tech for about 10 yrs. She could tell you a lot about the cocktails people are fed. Its the primary reason she quit and won’t see doctors.
Doctors are some of the most moronic people I have EVER encountered! True story.
Doctors are also some of the most profound, well read, smart, and wonderful moral people I have EVER encountered!
True story.
My great grandfather, grandfather, father, (almost me as a sophomore in college, until I found my calling as a fine artist) uncle, sister, another sister, brother-in-law, daughter-in-law, son, another son, and a nephew in medical school, and a niece in pre med at Michigan who has never had anything but straight A’s in her entire scholastic life. And literally too many of my dearest friends to mention. Accomplished and dedicated medical doctors all.
Don’t paint with a such a broad brush, Abby. Truth in life and art (The same thing) is in the details.
(And your downvote isn’t mine.)
If this is meant to be sarcasm, you’re doing it wrong.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!
If this is meant to be serious or humorous, you’re doing it wrong.
But you nailed “pathetic”
LOLOLLLLL!
I trained to be a certified pharmacy technician and I agree with your wife It’s also why I don’t see doctors except for emergencies
I always thought it was strange to advertise drugs to the general public.
Feel better, MC.
Direct-to-“consumer” pharma advertising is only legal in FUSA and New Zealand. In the mid 90’s the guidelines were changed and that’s when things got silly. While they rolled back some of the obvious monetary influence schemes pharma reps arrange with doctors there are obviously many other ways still in play. And no, the short skirts had nothing to do with it. That would sexshual harassment.
Now, go ask your doctor about how jagermeister(TM) might help that Burning sensation on your Platform.
People like her used to be side show freaks that people would pay to see because they were so unusually disgusting and rare. Now they are so common you don’t even notice them unless you smell them. We are at a point now where the carnival side show freaks are everywhere and are not at all weird or unusual. What does that say about our Clown World culture?
The results of taking such advice….
These four social media influencers were swept up by a movement that claims obesity is perfectly healthy… The tragic truth is they have all died under the age of 45
The final videos posted to Brittany Sauer’s TikTok page make for upsetting viewing. Speaking tearfully to the camera, the 31-stone social media star, who often posted defiantly ‘body-positive’ content about how ‘hot’ she felt in certain outfits, admitted with shocking candour that she had ‘ruined her life’ with food and binge eating.
And it had left her, aged just 28, full of regrets.
Brittany had been a virtual prisoner in her own home for two years, dealing with type 2 diabetes and repeated bouts of the skin infection cellulitis which had caused a growth in her pelvis weighing more than two stone. She had even been forced to ask someone else to cut her toenails, as it left her ‘too breathless’.
Yet she hoped, desperately, that it wasn’t too late to save herself. ‘I’m scared I’m going to end up in a bad place that my body can’t recover from,’ she said to her half-a-million TikTok followers. ‘I want you to know it’s not worth it – food isn’t worth your life.’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12872397/These-four-social-media-influencers-swept-movement-claims-obesity-perfectly-healthy-tragic-truth-died-age-45.html
What’s the tragic part?
The tragic part is half-a-million people felt compelled to ‘follow’ this person’s life, and a certain percentage of that 500k considered her an ‘influencer’ or role model. Unless there is a huge reduction in this type of thinking, civil society is going to accelerate its swirling of the drain. These people are a signpost for nutsery
The tragic part?
She died obese, smelly, scared, sad, and young as hell.
No children, no legacy, no nothing but fear, self loathing, angst, and a rag on a stick she washed herself with.
But………. Big Is Beutiful™
She hot
It’s the blubber.
No surprises here. I had a small sore on my hand for a couple years that annoyed me. Booked an appointment to see the doctor to have it cut out. August here in southern BC and hot, and I was not allowed into the office because I won’t wear a face diaper.
This biatch met me in the parking lot, wearing a diaper. What comes out of her face was shes overworked and I’m an inconvenience because shes having to come see me in the parking lot. THEN she says I’m not a good patient because its been over 5 yrs since my last appointment.
Overworked and I’m a poor patient for not adding to the workload. Got it.
So I told her as politely as I could to piss off and won’t be coming back. I recently, a couple weeks ago, got tossed from a walk-in clinic because I won’t wear a mask. Cataract replacement and I was supposed to have a dr say I was ok for surgery. Called the ophthalmologist back, told’m what happened ad then told them I didn’t need a stranger to tell me I’m healthy… Surgery is booked for two weeks from today.
That’s because doctors could care less about any of us. Old enough to remember them refusing to treat cancer patients or give scheduled life saving surgeries because of the flu. But, they had plenty of time to put together dance videos as grandma died alone in a plastic cage.
When anyone says something needs to be normalized, you know it’s going to be just awful.
The doctor saying this is absolutely gorgeous:
https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=596900420&q=dr.+nicole+vangroningen&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjjyfbnzNCDAxX6g4kEHTeUB0cQ0pQJegQIDBAB&biw=1163&bih=501&dpr=1.65
She’s just reducing the competition. Reproductive strategy.
There’s a whole lot of crazy in those eyes.
And coming out of her vocal cords. But she’s a knockout to look at. She wants as little competition as she can get. She’s a well-compensated professional with status, and looks. The more ugly, fat, infantilized, bitchy, entitled (too-)broads (badoom) around her, the better she’ll feel.
All the girls walk by
Dressed up for each other
~ Van Morrison
Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder, because I find that to be one unattractive woman even without the batshit crazy eyes.
Samson could kill alotta Palestinians with that jawbone
Fat, overbearing, and entitled.
Her therapist says she’s just fine.
reads more like a vet referring to an animal before butchering. how much does this doctor earn treating illnesses caused, or augmented by, obesity? that is where the true answer lies.
Seems the fatness is already normalized. My stripmall gym in nowhereville is full of the kind of bread loaves and sausage casings that would make kroger blush.
Even the “fit” ones just aren’t shaped right. There is some kind of large-bottom thing going on. As well as what I can only speculate is some kind of homogenized TikTok fuk-doll look that they all have. Every one.
None of these people seem to be in any way insecure, ashamed, or modest over the expansive ambitions of their fleshsacks. Quite the contrary. The all shrinkwrap in the same synthetic wrappers, lifting and splitting the loaves and heave in ways that would get you put in jail in the olden times.
And that is the gym.
A trip to the Walmart to watch the mothers-of-the-year drop cigarette ash on their baby’s heads before mounting one of the armored people movers from the Wall-E Mechanized Brigade that now encompasses the entire front entrance illuminates the cross-section of marbled ham three months past optimal slaughter weight that is Amerika.
Normal? I can’t even dream of normal anymore. I mean I have a general sense what it should be but like nostalgia it comes and goes and now I can’t be sure I am not just imagining things that were never even true. I wake up in a cold sweat because now even Karen McKenna from eight grade who was the most beautiful creature God ever made has a front butt and a neck tattoo and those furious daytime erections that even Algebra couldn’t settle are starving and atrophied for a glimpse of a waistline that isn’t also hips and thighs in a to-go box.
Colourfully recounted, D.V.
RIP to all our Karen McKennas out there.
That was truly epic…tragic…and really funny.
So well done.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!
Ellen G. White is rolling over in her grave. She was the first to write extensively about health based on Christian principles. Her advice is timeless.
Most neurologists agree that a missile-induced head injury such as the one that caused Ellen Harmon three weeks of coma followed by amnesia at age nine increases manifold the likelihood that she would develop subsequently some kind of seizure disorder.
While a neurological explanation for Ellen White’s vision appears to have the potential to rescue her reputation as a truthful woman, it simultaneously seems to preclude supernatural explanations.
https://nonsda.org/egw/headinjury.shtml
She was fat
Totally, it’s like, I mean totally OK.
Apparently stupidity has been normalized.
And subsidized.
And legislatively protected and elevated.
and well rewarded.
I gave up on the medical / pharmaceutical business a long time ago. That doctor must have double wide seats in her waiting room!
Bariatric seating – coming to an airlines soon; probably Southworst first.
What a repulsive slag. First there are the crazy eyes (danger alert!), then there is the implacable artificiality of the face. Fillers, Botox, who knows what all has been done to give it that look. Then there’s the fact that she has the mannerisms of, and speaks like a teenaged social media influencer (and effectively, that’s all she really is). Finally, she’s an abject moron. Which is self evident by the outrageously stupid things she is saying in this video, and passing off as legitimate medical advice (because “I’m a doctor!”).
Clearly she is a shill, and an establishment mouthpiece. Not that such a revelation is at all surprising, when there are countless others in the very same manufactured style. Anyone who listens to her and heeds her “advice” deserves all the misery and suffering they bring upon themselves. At a certain point, one either learns to see through the bullshit and avoid it, or failing that, the bullshit fully envelopes and kills them.
And so be it. Post COVID, I will no longer concern myself with idiots who remain complaint and subservient to the narrative. They are lost, and there is far to much to do in pursuit of my own well being and survival to burden myself with trying to deprogram true believers. As with all human delusions, they must come to the awakening on their own, no one else can lead them to it.
To all the Land Whales and Gettopotamus’s out there…it is not ok.
FACT CHECKED: Yes its ok
So order the double combo super sized all greasy meat pizzas and don’t let anyone tell you its unhealthy. Just get the diet cola with it.
Those greasy meat pizzas would be perfectly healthy if it was real meat and real grease, and not processed soy shit.
No surprise, when you are trying to kill everyone of course you are going to normalize health conditions that can kill you. Obesity normal, sudden death normal, fatal heart attacks in athletes normal, stroking out and dying after getting vax shots normal, brain tumors normal. Soon cancer will be seen as normal, you will get cancer just a question of when. Hey but great news! Big Pharma can cure/extend your life so it’s all good.
107% safe and effective. Trust the experts.
It is also okay to be stupid and wrong – just stay away from me
It is ok to be fat. That is your business. Fat being ok is an opinion. Having greater mortality and a greater chance of being miserable longer at the end of life are facts. Suit yorself just don’t ask me to pay for it.
This doctor needs four or five good punches to the face. Sellout POS.
My client, a surgeon told me straight up. He makes a fortune off of fat people.
Women shouldn’t be allowed to just say any convoluted thing that pops into their hairbrained minds.
They should be allowed to speak. They should not be allowed to set precedent and policy, based on the latest bee in their bonnet.
Fat people should not be treated badly but they should be strongly encouraged to get it together. And most important, if you are fat do not shop at BEBE or stores like it. You make yourself into a walking MEME when you strut around in clothes for a size 2. Caftans are your friend.
NO, IT IS NOT HEALTHY. That said, get as fat as you want, and die from the problems related to obesity. Your choice.