This law is WONDERFUL! And to all of those women who are losing their minds – try to remember, the law being changed is PERMANENT alimony, NOT ALL alimony! You can still get alimony until you remarry, but the days of marrying and then divorcing 5 guys, one after another, and getting checks for the rest of your life, ARE OVER!
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Divorce = The screwing you get for the screwing you got.
Marriage has always been Russian roulette.
Always.
ITS NOT FAIR !! I got bored and cheated so HE should pay me !
Getting married is a gamble plain and simple.
Good thing I’m not a gambling man…
It has always been so … might as well get used to it …
Anyone familiar with the Uniformed Services Former Spouses’ Protection Act or USFSPA for short? It basically allows state courts to award and distribute a retired military members pay to his/her former spouse. In my case I was married for 12 years that overlapped my 20 years in the service. My divorce decree states that my ex-wife would be awarded 27% of my monthly retired pay upon my retirement. For life. No matter if she remarried or not. I retired in 2011. Legally she could have even married another service member, divorced them, and been awarded a portion of their retired pay. And since she was awarded a percentage and not a fixed dollar amount, for military retirees every year there’s a cost of living adjustment and its always a percentage; 1.2%, 2.6%, 3.4% etc, so that means she gets the same % increase in her monthly payment. Since we were married for at least 10 years, DFAS automatically deducts the amount from my retirement check and sends it to her bank account. So my advice to anyone who is the military and plans on making a career out of it – AND – is considering getting married: DON’T.
So you were stupid twice .military and marriage.
…per the military part, I’d have to agree though replace ‘stupid’ with ‘made a mistake’.
I’m not familiar with that. My nephew’s wife must be because she made the comment that she is set for life after marrying my nephew. FTS.
Hah to the dappy downvoter. Not only did the piece of sht say it, she encouraged my niece to find a military guy and also he “set for life”. You could tell my nephew was uncomfortable and told my niece, “You really don’t want to do that.” To which my niece responded, “No, I don’t. ” Furthermore, my nephew has been sent to Australia and Japan. Somehow this dimwitted thing thinks my nephew is on vacation, so when he comes back she takes her own vacation and leaves him with the kiddo and all the work. He is trying to keep it together for his kiddo.
“She got the goldmine, I got the shaft.” … Jerry Reed 1982
90 Days Jerry !
Honestly, I don’t see the point of getting married if it’s a secular marriage. Without God a marriage is just a financial contract that’s doomed to fail because humans are too flawed and incapable of relying solely on themselves to keep a marriage together. We’ve had decades of failed secular marriages to prove this to us. A secular marriage will always end with the husband and wife being at odds with each other leading to an eventual divorce. There needs to be a bigger reason than tru-wuv to get married.
For the most part, I think you are correct but that does not mean all secular marriages will fail.
My late brother and his widow were married for 40 years until he died. No fault divorce and feminism got us to where we are now. There are other examples of lasting secular marriages, few though they may be.
By secular marriage I mean neither husband or wife believing/worship in God and the marriage itself is a contract not a covenant. While I’m sure a few work out they’d be the exception not the rule. A marriage without God means the husband and wife are relying solely on themselves for it to work and that arrangement is doomed to failure.
You just repeated what I said in different words. I wasn’t disagreeing with you, ya know. I said there were exceptions.
I’m going to go lay down for a while until I need to let the dogs out. I’m still a bit under the weather. I’ll check back later, or not, depending on if I can even stay awake much longer.
No, I’m repeating what I said the first time for clarity’s sake. Because I don’t see why you would point out an anecdotal example that exceptions exist which is an obvious assumption for any statement. If anything that would make your comment redundant.
That is a statement with no exceptions, Stephanie. I did not want to go on with other examples but it’s more common that you think.
Christians get divorced as much as non-Christians. It’s a real black eye for the faith.
So are they REALLY Christians? A label means very little. It always comes down to one’s deeds or actions.
So your remedy is to offer an anecdotal example of an exception that can’t be proven? Gotcha.
Also, you misquoted me. The full quote was “A secular marriage will always end with the husband and wife being at odds with each other”… which will lead to an eventual divorce. Without God the marriage will never fully come together.
This is why so many people in secular marriages have separate bank accounts and argue over who does what chores.
Do you just like to argue?
Wimmin being wimmin, that’s all.
The fear of God may indeed keep marriages intact. But does that intact marriage mean success for the individuals? Seems like a poor ledger entry to be examined at the Pearly Gate.
I can tell you of a superfragalistic marriage between one believer and one scientific type that is 25 years long and better than ever. Character plays the bigger part rather than some belief that comes out of some book written by men, changed by men, and had nothing whatsoever to do with what is and has been. Think not? Recommend you look up what happened in Constantinople. Also, Pastor Paul Wallis and his take on the Old Testament, which is not about God at all. Or Dr. Thomas Campbell, physicist, who has a “theory of everything” that is compelling, salient, accessible, proven, and enlightening. It’s about the Source and our individual role to play as a bit of same that grows as it can if it abandons belief and looks to see what is up close and personal. You deserve the best!
That’s because you are a feminist.
The purpose of marriage is family. Children.
Whether God has an interest in the marriage is cultural.
I can’t wait to come back later to see the woman hate that comes out of this thread. I hope I will be surprised.
I was divorced. I didn’t get a penny of alimony because I didn’t ask for it. I thought it more important to be amicable for our kids. I’m glad I did because we ended up caring for our oldest grandson for a couple years. My husband and I are headed to my ex’s house on Saturday for a family birthday party for him. He will be 19 on the 16th.
I don’t know or care about the rules or laws regarding alimony. All I know is I got divorced and my lawyer said I should get a portion of my ex wife’s pension when she retired from a municipal government position. They agreed. At the time it was a pittance. But years later when she retired it was an unexpected $600 per month. I never paid any alimony.
When I got divorced 40 years ago, alimony was a set amount for a set period of time, unless she got married. Until just now, I had never heard of “lifetime alimony”.
I think there is lifetime alimony if the divorce situation meets certain criteria. I believe if a spouse is a stay at home and raise the kids kind of spouse for a certain number of years, they will get lifetime alimony seeing as they gave up any possiblilities of a career outside the home.
I think it might be a state-by-state thing.
Not having been divorced (or married) myself therefore having no experience….Oh. 🙂
It must be. I never heard of that up here in AK.
Thanks to the feminist movement, laws so are hilariously skewed towards women it’s no wonder people don’t want to get married anymore.
There isn’t any pussy worth the torture .
And there isn’t any way to teach that lesson to a guy about to take the plunge.
Women are professional ball busters.
I am married for the 4th time. Fortunately I found a great woman, former model and civil engineer from Eastern Europe 19 years ago. Let’s see: my first ex is married for the 5th time……my second ex is married for the 7th time……my third ex is married for the 5th time. So they have enough ex’s to field three basketball teams and have men on the bench. Maybe it wasn’t me. So much for American women.
Talk about gaping somethings.
It is not finding the right person, it is being the right person.
You’re on your 4th marriage. It’s also you.
I’ve never been married.
And it’s definitely me….
Eddy,
I wouldn’t put that on your resume. Just sayin.
I see, you go for hot chicks. As a fellow of yours, I also know that some hot chicks make for great company, but ya don’t know for how long. Lot of them are dandy for awhile, but you can never make them happy inasmuch as that is an internal thing and they have become accustomed to being served. You cannot serve them perfectly and so you are worthy of their anger. What a relief it is when they leave.
But then you can get lucky and the hot chick is genuine through and through. Feels like luck.
There’s always Russian Roulette.
Right! Except until the last spin things can be pretty nice. But even then it’s not fatal and you carry on until you wise up in the end.
Four times isn’t a record I would be comparing favourably to anyone. Pretty sure I would keep that to myself.
I think it’s a solid law and hope it goes both ways. I knew a woman who had to pay alimony to her husband because he didn’t make as much when they divorced. He quit his job and taunted her that she’d be supporting him forever. Fuck him. Fuck the women who think that way too. This was 28 years ago and she became angry when I doubted her. I stood corrected.
Free money is free for those who get the free money, not those who have to pay it. Ask our invaders. Fuck them too. Sorry, hit a nerve.
It’s OK, Leah. It’s designed to keep us all mad at each other and drive us apart. I too have seen this work both ways, but admittedly, alimony and custody are both female-biased in the legal system.
When I was growing up, my parents were both court reporters (stenographers). I got to sit in courtrooms and watch the whole charade. My mother worked in a Civil court — why they call them this, I have no idea, they’re anything but — and I got to see and hear all these contested divorces and business deals. The divorces were always the worst, because they usually involved children, and of course, money.
Still, no matter how bad the female may have lived, even if she’d been a convicted criminal 90% of the time she got the kids, and with it the child support. And this was back in the ’80’s; I can just imagine it’s only gotten worse.
My father had two kids in the ’50’s before he met my mother, and the court ordered the kids to go with her, with full support. Neither of them had much money. She had mental problems, which she transferred to the children, and was terrible to my father. (Dad never failed to make a support payment, I might add, though whether the kids got benefit from the money [they didn’t] is irrelevant.) Two innocent children, ruined by the so-called justice system, even back then.
So, this is not a new issue, and will continue as long as we let lawyers control things. If anyone, be mad at them.
Thank you Cpt. Obviuos.
Nothing has really changed, they’re just adjusting the price of pussy.
Cheaper to buy it on the street.
Unless they have VD or STD Then you could be paying for life.
For a site where everybody talks a good game about culture, things really fall apart when talking about building a family. Can’t do that without a Man and a Woman. For those bitter griping men who feel they’ve been screwed by divorce laws, did you consider thinking with your big head when making a choice of procreation???
Bingo. These people have no idea what they believe. They’re all over the map. Typical problem with society. Zero convictions.
I’m glad I divorced the crazy bitch but at least its easier to get out of bed in morning without wanting to stay wrapped up with her soft, warm body. She could not cook despite being from the midwest farm country.
“Well I love the little girl, and I’ll love her ‘til the day she dies”.
David Bowie, Scary Monsters
Tell all the young men , there are some scheming bitches that will FLIP the day after they get married.
As soon as they get the ring, boom , their entire personality and attitude changes…..
I GOT WHAT I WANTED , I OWN YOU NOW.
The tide has turned, young men are now aware of the traps set before them, and they are walking away.
Good for them.
Just Pearly Things , the female that says the quiet stuff out loud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hooiIZD4Ecg
Marrying well is perhaps the single most important thing anyone can do in their life.
Yes, it is easily one of the top 1-2 descisions a person will ever make.
This is undoubtedly true, and yet with the push to feminize our male children and every female wants to be a tik tok influencer, no one is giving these children the guidance to become grown men and women.
I believe one of the goals of the elites is to keep the population down enough to just provide slave labor to the machine while they live in high society style.
Homeschool. Teach your boys to be men, teach your girls to be women. That makes a nuclear family a lot more able to withstand the outside world and remain intact.
Traditional roles are TRADITIONAL for a reason.
I will say that I got into a bad relationship with a single mother with 2 little girls. I decided to stick it out because every time I looked into those little girls eyes, I could not leave them. I simply would not leave them. We are together over 20 years now. We beat the odds but it was, at times torturous. Our relationship has been very good over the last 5 years. I don’t think I would do it all over but, I have to admit that some good things have come to fruition because of the way she is. I don’t know of any other woman that would have stuck with me while trying to follow my path. Life and relationships can be wild.
Over 20 years together but not married. Had we gotten married, I’m quite sure we would have gotten divorced.
I could never wrap my mind around having to PURCHASE a license from the STATE to be in a committed relationship! WTF, the only ones who benefit are the STATE and the professional LIARS/lawyers .
Peace, L.
GNL = cuck
HSF
Not getting married is the best decision a man in the USA can make.
Your comment exposes your brainwashing because you excluded not getting married as a choice.
Actually, he said “marrying well was the single most important thing”.
This excludes from the topic that of not marrying (it being a separate topic).
His topic is simply a choice of marrying well, sufficiently, or poorly; and that choice being of high importance.
He was not addressing those of us who are not married and have no intention of being so.
FU
I bet you are a grammar nazi too.
This change to the law isn’t as big a ‘win’ for men that it would seem. In the up-and-coming generations, women are out-graduating men at college and out-earning men in the workplace. Guess what…women found out real quick that paying alimony sucks, and paying lifetime alimony really sucks. Men have known, and have complained about this, for decades but nothing changed. So now it’s going to start impacting women to a greater degree…the law has to change.
it would be a bit too blatant, and probably wouldn’t hold up to challenge, if they made a law that said: only men have to continue paying lifetime alimony, but women don’t. They would if they could, but it’s just a bit too obviously biased. So, a small population of boomer women have to take-one-for-the-team and get thrown under the bus. Who really cares? These women are old anyway.
So to men: understand that you may benefit as a byproduct of this change, but it’s not intended for you else it would have happened decades ago.
Very interesting and likely true.
As a married woman who chose to give up a well compensated job to stay home and tend to my husband and our children, cleaning for him and us, doing the laundry for him and us and putting a warm meal on the table when he comes home exhausted, people always tell me that I am a fool for what I gave up. Many comments also imply that I am a slave to him, the epitome of a weak woman.
Meanwhile, I feel like the richest person on the planet, for I get to do what amounts to the most important job one could ever do in life, all while honoring God and serving the most important people to me.
But I looked it up: in Massachusetts, I would get a lifetime alimony of 30% of his pay after 20 years of marriage.
We only have 6 years to go to hit the 20 year mark.
Who would be the fool if I was a money grabbing witch? Luckily, I would never ever get a divorce, it’s just not conceivable.
I think the laws are all wrong. There should not be such a thing as lifetime alimony. It’s preposterous to have such a law. Maybe a couple of years until you can find a job, but that should be it.
I agree that the choice of your spouse is the single most important decision you ever make in your life. Based on my experience and what I have observed, a good wife would be someone who is high on the nurturing/serving others personality scale. Smart, but not overly interested in a career. For a man, I would choose one who is masculine, strong (physically and mentally), has a job that pays enough to support a family, but does not require a lot of travel. Ideally, someone who is handy enough to build a bird house. In fact, that should be a test on one of the first dates. Also, both male or female spouse candidates should be low on the narcissistic scale and not be driven by external motivators such as keeping up with the Joneses. Someone who craves status symbols such as fancy watches, cars, houses should be red flags for they show a weak character.
Stop being so lazy and get a job, it can be fun, really! Women have been getting to foolish and greedy. Good going DeSantis!
Stop being so lazy and greedy, get to work. Women’s liberation has hurt all women. God help you!